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Manchester clubs return in Sky Sports Fantasy Football as City face Monday fixture

Another Gameweek in Sky Sports Fantasy Football is upon us and all eyes are on the two Manchester clubs, who play their first Premier League games of the campaign.

But it is worth recruiting the services of any of their players?

Kevin De Bruyne (£11.5m) is the most expensive midfield asset in the game and rather fittingly accrued more points than any other player in Sky last season.

Bruno Fernandes comes in at £10.9m and was in the points himself after signing for Manchester United, tallying 129 from his debut onwards (more than any other player from that point up until the end of the term).

Their percentage selections emphasise the above points, currently standing at 45.5% and 30.6% respectively. De Bruyne’s ownership is most probably higher due to the fact that Manchester City play their first game on Monday night against Wolves, with the only other fixture of choice that day being Aston Villa against Sheffield United.

This creates the perfect captaincy choice for this game day, and fear not if you do not currently have the Belgian in your side.

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One of the quirks of Sky Sports Fantasy Football is the fact that you can allow players to play on a particular day and rack up their points, before transferring them out for another player to perform the following day, allowing managers to maximise their points potential.

De Bruyne does provide the better option of the two, but even the likes of Marcus Rashford (£10.5m) or Antony Martial (£10.0m) could be tempting considering United’s first three fixtures before you are allowed to make unlimited changes in the Overhaul: Crystal Palace, Tottenham and Brighton.

Bringing one of these stars in does come at a cost. You must budget accordingly and it does mean that you may eat into your first of 40 transfers, which will remain at that number until the end of the campaign.

The Overhaul comes into play after Gameweek 4, so there is no need to panic or rush with your transfers just yet. In a short time, you can utilise as many as you like.

On the Lookout?

As you well know, it would be pretty impossible to fill your Sky Sports Fantasy Football XI with players from both Manchester City and Manchester United, but at least there are options emerging on the radar elsewhere.

Marcal – £6.3m

Marcal got off to a perfect start in a Wolves shirt, contributing to his side’s clean sheet in their 2-0 away victory at Sheffield United. As mentioned previously, you do not have to make any changes before the Overhaul, but the left-back does provide a decent captaincy option for the game on Monday night.

After the clash against Manchester City, Wolves face four winnable fixtures in West Ham, Fulham, Leeds and Newcastle, either side of the Overhaul period, proving a potential cheap pick at just £6.3m for both short and long-term planning. His price is by far the cheapest from any of the Wolves’ backline.

Jack Grealish – £8.5m

It has been quite the week for Jack Grealish. From earning his first England cap to signing a new five-year contract and scoring against Burton in the same day, Grealish was a surprise announcement to most Villa fans.

What this does give the capacity for him to do is really kick on, perfect for Fantasy Football managers. He will begin his Premier League season against Sheffield United, also on Monday evening, which could mean another captaincy choice may be needed to make.

Grealish scored on eight occasions and created six more goals for Aston Villa last season, which was invaluable to his side maintaining their Premier League status. Their fixtures are generous, particularly post-Overhaul, facing off against Leeds, Southampton, Arsenal, Brighton, West Ham and Newcastle.

Points could begin to flow in abundance for the Villa skipper.

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  1. Zimo
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    JamRod or DCL?

    1. Salah(c)
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      jamrod

    2. stat sifter 888888
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      DCL for me.

  2. Hospital Pass
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Anyone else utterly undecided about Hamez (best option yet, if flawed)? A) He scored 3 (three) points in a dominate performance (with no shots on target), and b) at some point has to pass it to DCL or Richarlison, who whilst good have never been consistent? Goodness he's elegant, but certain to be effective?

    1. Salah(c)
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      hamez is the best option at 7.5 and could possibly be on pens if and when siggy is on the bench

      1. Hospital Pass
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Cheers. And oh aye, 7.5 could be sooo cheap.

    2. Twisted Saltergater
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Yep same doubt that he might not provide much goal threat.

      1. Hospital Pass
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Thanks. Guess a more physical challenge against West Brom will be telling...

    3. Puyol Pants Up
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Gives me Prime Ozil vibes when he as at Arsenal, and FPL wise Ozil was elite. The issue with James won't be his creativity, it will be if Everton can score goals from his output. If they can consistently then he's a great pick.

      1. Hospital Pass
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Lol at the Avatar title. And makes sense - Richarlison had a bit of an off day. Cheers.

    4. Viper
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      No shots on target but inches away from just outside the box. 2 attempts inside the box that he didn't do well with but got into the right position

  3. Letsgo!
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Martial for werner?

    1. Salah(c)
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      no

    2. Bielsa's Blue Bucket
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Warner is quality and will probably get pens when Jorgino doesn't play

    3. Hospital Pass
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      This week, sure. But sooner rather than later Werner will get a LOT of chances.

  4. Salah(c)
    • 3 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Would really appreciate help with my wc

    Pickford steer

    Vvd coleman mitchell justin taylor

    Salah kdb greenwood klich jrod

    Werner jiminez brewster

    What would you change?

    vvd out short term?
    coleman for another 5.0 and who?
    greenwood nailed and g2g or swap to another player?
    thanks alot in advance!

    1. Hospital Pass
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      GK: Not Pickford. Triple Everton is too much.
      DEF: Coleman won't be in many people's teams as he's no longer an attacking threat often. I think Justin is the bigger problem on WC as will soon be bench fodder.
      MID: Greenwood is fourth pick for Utd (after Bruno, Rashford, Martial), and JRod's an unknown. One sure, but not both.

  5. Bobby_Baggio
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    McCarthy
    Justin - Davies - TAA
    Auba - Salah(C) - Alli - ASM
    Ings - Mitro - Werner

    (Nyland) - Vinagre - Stephens - Johnson

    A) Alli > James.R
    B) Alli + Ings > James.R + Martial (-4)
    C) Mitro + Alli > Martial + Soucek
    D) Anything else

    1. Salah(c)
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      A
      captain auba

      1. Bobby_Baggio
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Cheers. I will (C) Auba. Left it on Salah from last week.

    2. FPLGeezer
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Close to pulling the trigger on B)

    3. Saka Punch
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      I like B tbh

  6. Twelve years a slave
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Has anyone fallen in price yet that was less than 100%

    1. Seanigula
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      I don’t think so...it’s more likely to be the opposite since there are so many wildcards

    2. Gnu
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Pepe fell on 89.4% funnily enough

      1. Twelve years a slave
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        That is not true, he was over 100

        1. Gnu
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          3 years, 6 months ago

          On FPL stats he was.

        2. Gnu
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          3 years, 6 months ago

          The first price changes of the season have occurred on Sept 14. The changes and the FPL Statistics projections shortly beforehand were:

          Risers
          Willian 105.3%
          Bamford 104.0%

          Non Risers
          Gabriel 102.4%

          Fallers
          Pepe 89.4%

          I picked this up from another site.

          1. Seanigula
            • 14 Years
            3 years, 6 months ago

            I’m pretty sure he was over 100 as well

            1. Gnu
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 14 Years
              3 years, 6 months ago

              Well that's what I found. Can't remember myself but this was recorded.

            2. Gnu
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 14 Years
              3 years, 6 months ago

              TM has confirmed it wasn't, see next page.

        3. Gnu
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          3 years, 6 months ago

          Want to check that? 😉

  7. Alisson WondHaaland
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    James Rodriguez or Greenwood?
    Seen many go for James here, convince me

    1. Letsgo!
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Is greenwood starting? Tbh i dont think james is a good pick for fpl

      1. Alisson WondHaaland
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Not sure why he wouldnt

    2. Big boy Bowen
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      My decision too, it’s tough

    3. Salah(c)
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      i have both on my wc but if i would choose one it would be jrod, greenwood still young jrod proven player who will thrive with ancelotti and might have pens

    4. stat sifter 888888
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Slightly more rotation risk with Greenwood but equal minutes I would rather have the youngster. Hames far more unproven in the Prem than him.

    5. Hospital Pass
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      I don't think we know. Hamez is utter class, Greenwood needs both minutes and maybe better fixtures.

  8. Aussie Rules
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Martinez to start for Villa this week?

    1. Bobby_Baggio
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Yes I would imagine so. He wouldn't move to Villa to be a number 2.

    2. iL PiStOlErO
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      If not this week then from next week for sure.

  9. Letsgo!
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Can someone help?

    Should i keep son and doherty?

    1. Salah(c)
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      yes why not

      1. Letsgo!
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Because i wont have any manutd players if i were to keep spurs player

    2. Tozier
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Depends entirely who you're getting rid for. Spurs have good fixtures and you had them in your team for more than 1 gw presumably. Give it a couple more gameweeks I would.

  10. Big boy Bowen
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Do we think Salah rises this week? Currently 89 on fplstats with 3 blue arrows up

    1. Seanigula
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Yes

    2. Salah(c)
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      i would say no but you never know

    3. Seanigula
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Most transfers happen the day before the games, so it’s almost certain

    4. james 101
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Yes

  11. aDUUU
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    JWP owners - what are you doing?

  12. Tozier
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Draft question :

    Could you please rank:

    A) Hendrick
    B) Harrison
    C) Eze
    D) Podence

    1. Salah(c)
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      klich

    2. dunas_dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      DBCA

    3. Hospital Pass
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      DB...........A/C.

    4. Zimo
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      BDCA

  13. MGMT
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Son will absolutely punish sellers... This Sotom side looks terrible.

    1. Salah’s Sonnet
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Advocated this last night, absolutely agree.

    2. iL PiStOlErO
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Fingers crossed

    3. Seanigula
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      I’m keeping, losing 0.1 is no big deal, if he’s solid he’ll go back up

    4. Twelve years a slave
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Especially if Bale signs, it will give the entire side a lift

      1. Gnu
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Yeah, they'll all have a big game of golf.

    5. TheNecromancer
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      I agree. However, the fact that I decided against shipping him out for KDB will undoubtedly mean he will lay a big, fat egg.
      Sorry for that...
      -Nec

  14. Lav
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Time for price changes?

    1. Seanigula
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      2 hours

      1. james 101
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Or. 26 hours.

        Hoping it’s 2 though.

    2. Seanigula
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Pretty sure it’s at 0230 UK time...9:30pm in NYC

  15. Zimo
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    I'm concerned James Rodriguez is a great player for Everton but won't be good as an fpl prospect. Can someone convince me he'll come good in fpl terms

    1. Salah’s Sonnet
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Seems like more the assister of the assister type, but i ckukd be very wrong, 90 mins is nowhere nesr enough to tell.

    2. Big boy Bowen
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      We just need more time to see him on the pitch I think.
      Given Everton’s fixtures I’m tempted to punt, over Greenwood for now

    3. Seanigula
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      After 1week it’s all a big guess...but they had more positives then negatives, thus the interest in Everton players

    4. MGMT
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Has been a stats player his whole life. Now on top of this, add Fantasy Assists... He will come good.

    5. iL PiStOlErO
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      He will haul now and then

    6. Viper
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      I just watched the highlights again. He looked great I thought. I reckon he'll have a similar impact to Van Der Vaart in FPL

    7. Zimo
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Cheers everyone thanks!

    8. Saka Punch
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Created more chances than all other fpl assets last gw so lots of assist potential. Could be on pens. Obviously unproven yet but he's against West Brom next so I wouldn't be surprised if he does well

  16. jesus jesus
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Just seen Southamptons 1st team beat by Brentford

    1. iL PiStOlErO
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Quality

      1. jesus jesus
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Who needs watkins lol !!?

    2. Hospital Pass
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Worth remembering Brentford are very very tidy and should have gone up.

  17. Ronnies
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    On wildcard.

    Keep McCarthy or switch to another 4.5 keeper, Martinez ?

    Thanks.

    1. Viper
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      On the very limited evidence so far, I wouldn't be too happy keeping Mccarthy

      1. iL PiStOlErO
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        This.

  18. Viper
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Any chance Steer starts this week while Martinez settles in?

    Worth starting ahead of Mccarthy just incase?

    1. iL PiStOlErO
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      If he is ever going to start this would be the week yes.

    2. Twisted Saltergater
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Yep

    3. Bielsa's Blue Bucket
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      The 4 clubs I've played for I've always been pumped to show my new teammates and manager what I could do. He'll start 100%

  19. Big boy Bowen
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Digne or Doherty if you had to choose?

    1. iL PiStOlErO
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Digne

    2. dunas_dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Digne

      1. Big boy Bowen
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Thanks guys, I guess his recent haul and the very next fixture help 🙂

  20. Tsparkes10
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Quite stubborn and gut says save FT but concerned about Pulisic... Great fixture in gw3 though. Hoping Barnes has another good game but actually hauls this time :). Ings, TAA, Pulisic, Barnes and ASM all potential outgoings soon.

    Mccarthy
    TAA Doh Egan
    Aubam Pulisic Barnes ASM
    Werner Ings martial
    (Nyland, Burke, Mitchell, KWP)

    A) Save FT
    B) Pulisic to?
    C) Other

    1. CBonci
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      A for me

    2. iL PiStOlErO
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      A

    3. Diedhiou See That?
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      A

  21. One Man
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Robbo, VVD, Maddison or Debrunye, Ayling, Justin ??

    1. iL PiStOlErO
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      KdB one

    2. Big boy Bowen
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      I think the first one will score more points over the season

  22. jia you
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Issue: Too much money on my bench (21.5) after GW1 BB.
    Dilemma: Wildcard next week or is my team strong enough to gradually downgrade my bench options?

    Ramsdale
    Trent Robbo Digne Bellerin
    Auba Doucoure ASM
    Werner Ings DCL
    (McCarthy JWP Pereira James)

    1. Diedhiou See That?
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      No wc- looks fine

      1. jia you
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        cheers

    2. Schliegs
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Na looks sweet, ride out this week and do a double change next week for free when you have more info. Can easily see that team scoring well.

      1. Schliegs
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Although I’d play JWP over ASM due to penalties.

        1. jia you
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 6 months ago

          Cheers, I suggested playing JWP over ASM on here yesterday and was basically laughed at 😉

          1. jia you
            • 7 Years
            3 years, 6 months ago

            feel its a coin flip myself as Spurs are not great to say the least

    3. Big boy Bowen
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Don’t fancy Werner to Martial?

      1. jia you
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        I would for this week but not after so holding Werner for at least a few more GWs seems the best play...I don't care about his ownership (actually that's a reason I'd like to get away from him) just the fact he's a top striker!

        1. Big boy Bowen
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 6 months ago

          Fair, he defo looks a great pick for weeks 4 and 5

          1. Big boy Bowen
            • 7 Years
            3 years, 6 months ago

            And 3!

  23. Salah(c)
    • 3 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    best 5.0 defender ?

    1. Diedhiou See That?
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Coady

    2. iL PiStOlErO
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      4.5m def and 0.5itb

    3. dunas_dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Saiss based on fixtures after City game. Rees James one to watch for Chelsea

    4. Big boy Bowen
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Probably Saiss!

    5. Twisted Saltergater
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Keane

    6. Phil's Stamps
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Saiss

  24. Big boy Bowen
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    After feedback about having too much Spurs I’m now down to 2 with this one 🙂

    Meslier
    TAA | Digne | Lamptey
    Salah | Son | James R | Greenwood | Soucek
    Kane | Martial

    Steer | KWP | Mitchell | Davis

    Quite like the balance with this, most prices covered and fairly flexible, can be a 4-4-2 as well with KWP in for Soucek.

    Thoughts?

    1. Abusive_Sgt_Daelrhos
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Greenwood nailed on?

      1. Big boy Bowen
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        He is/was if Sancho doesn’t sign.
        Obviously his antics may not help, but on the pitch he’s the best they have right now on that right wing.

    2. jia you
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Slight chance Greenwood doesn't start but good looking team...Lamptey looked great v Chelsea...GL

      1. Big boy Bowen
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Cheers mate

    3. Seanigula
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Ditch Kane for Werner or Everton

      1. Big boy Bowen
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Thanks, going to keep for now. He’s got 2 gameweeks to deliver decent returns for me otherwise out for Werner in GW4

  25. Abusive_Sgt_Daelrhos
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Alli dropping tonight, switch to Willian(Got Auba) or save?

    1. Saka Punch
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Willian for a 1 week punt or JRod if long term

  26. Tsparkes10
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Pulisic owners how we feeling? I just know if I get rid this week he'll haul the next

    1. Schliegs
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Yeah I’ve been tossing up allllll week, starting to lean towards sell, it’s too early to have injured players that aren’t nailed.

      Or at least that’s what I’ve been telling myself all week

      1. Tsparkes10
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        True mate, who you eyeing up?? Tempted by J Rod... Only thing putting me off is 2FT next week will be lovely and Pulisic vs westbrom is v nice

    2. Bielsa's Blue Bucket
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Sold already. Lampard said he's had to go back a step in the plan to fill fitness so I think he'll miss 2 more games

  27. Igz08
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Bale price ?

  28. FPLGeezer
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Which moves the best? All for a hit and currently £1m itb

    A) Ings & Alli 》James Rodriguez & Martial (-4) leaves £0.5 itb
    B) Ings & Alli 》 Rashford & DCL plus leaves £1m itb
    C) Ings & Alli 》Bruno & DCL leaves £0 itb

    1. Twisted Saltergater
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      C

    2. Saka Punch
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      All -4 right? I did A but C also looks good

      1. FPLGeezer
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Yep all -4 and Ings to Martial was my original plan setting team up but now thinking a hit to deal with Alli. A actually leaves £1m itb too

  29. Schliegs
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    For anyone keen on a draft we have a few spots left in ours. It starts at 11.30am Melbourne time.

    Code: 09aetx

    Get in

  30. Dynamic Duos
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    How this guys and gals?

    McCarthy
    TAA Egan Davies
    Salah Aubameyang Bruno Hames ASM
    DCL Mitrovic

    Nyland Brewster Saiss Ferguson

    1. Alexis Nonsense
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Nice!

      Any clue on Ferguson? I mean, if he's out for half the season might as well punt on another 4.0