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Why Werner blanked at West Brom and whether to hold or sell him for FPL Gameweek 4

West Brom 3-3 Chelsea

  • Goals: Callum Robinson x2 (£5.5m), Kyle Bartley (£4.5m) | Mason Mount (£6.9m), Callum Hudson-Odoi (£5.8m), Tammy Abraham (£7.3m)
  • Assists: Matheus Pereira (£6.0m), Darnell Furlong (£4.5m) | Cesar Azpilicueta (£5.9m), Kai Havertz (£8.4m), Mount
  • Bonus points: C Robinson x3, Mount x2, Reece James x1 (£5.1m)

Timo Werner (£9.4m) remains goalless in the Premier League after Chelsea’s trip to West Bromwich Albion did not go according to plan.

The German international had been understandably turned to by 800,000+ Fantasy Premier League managers for the Gameweek 3 captaincy only to be rewarded with nothing more than a two-point score.

As some start to lose patience in Werner, it serves to analyse what went wrong for him on Saturday evening as there were, admittedly, some mitigating circumstances behind his first blank of the campaign.

Tammy Abraham’s (£7.3m) impressive EFL Cup performance midweek was enough to convince Frank Lampard to hand the centre-forward role to him at the Hawthorns, which shifted Werner onto the left-hand side of a 4-2-3-1.

That left him with less time in the penalty box than his 35% ownership would have liked, but Chelsea’s abysmal start to the game in defence did not help him either.

The Blues gifted three goals to West Bromwich Albion inside the first 27 minutes which eased any pressure on the hosts considerably. Each time Chelsea conceded, the Baggies sat deeper and deeper inside their five-man defence and bank of four midfielders, making life much harder for any visiting attacker to find some space.

That said, there was one moment in the first half that Werner and his owners will view with regret. In the 14th minute, Mason Mount (£6.9m) finally managed to find some space around the back of left-back Conor Townsend (£4.5m), squaring to Werner, who crashed his short-range shot against Sam Johnstone‘s (£4.5m) crossbar.

Chelsea’s issues in other areas of the team then counted against Werner in the second half as Cesar Azpilicueta (£5.9m) replaced Marcos Alonso (£6.0m) and winger Callum Hudson-Odoi (£5.8m) came on for Mateo Kovačić (£5.5m).

With Hudson-Odoi on the pitch, who prefers to operate on the left-flank of attacking midfield as an inside forward, Lampard catered that with his formation tweak, shifting Werner onto the right-hand side.

“Callum (Hudson-Odoi) gave me everything I asked and wanted from him in terms of his ability to go one-on-one, trying to take people on. He got his goal. That’s what Callum needs to do. That’s the sort of impact he can have for us and it has to be consistent. He gave himself a great platform now to continue in that vain. He’ll be very important for us if he does.” – Frank Lampard

And when Olivier Giroud (£6.9m) took to the field in the place of Thiago Silva (£5.5m), enabling Lampard to pair the Frenchman with Abraham up-front in a 3-5-2, Werner was even further away from the danger areas.

During the final 15 minutes of the game, the only opportunity Chelsea’s number 11 had was when he emerged unmarked at the back post following a corner, only to see his powerful shot blocked by Kyle Bartley (£4.5m).

Would Chelsea have had to make these slew of changes to their side had they not gone 3-0 down in the opening half-an-hour? Almost certainly not. Would Werner have been better suited to this game had West Bromwich Albion not retreated into a deep block after a perfect start to the game? Almost certainly.

Perhaps that is the question his owners should consider ahead of the visit of Crystal Palace to Stamford Bridge in Gameweek 4. And even if Werner is deployed on the left-hand side of Chelsea’s attack again for that match, the Eagles’ have struggled to defend that area of the pitch in recent months. As Jan Sienkiewicz reminded us in a recent Captain Sensible article, the following left-sided players registered at least one attacking return facing them during Project Restart:

  • Sadio Mané (£11.9m) – goal
  • Harvey Barnes (£7.0m) – two assists
  • Christian Pulisic (£8.3m) – goal
  • Daniel Podence (£5.6m) – goal
  • Marcus Rashford (£9.5m) – goal and assist

Furthermore, the fitness of Pulisic and Hakim Ziyech (£7.9m) remain in the equation for Werner’s Fantasy appeal. The penetrative runs offered by the American, and Ziyech’s exceptionally creative abilities would have been the perfect tools to break down West Bromwich Albion’s deep block on Saturday, and could be important when facing Palace in Gameweek 4 – something to keep an eye on in Lampard’s upcoming press conferences.

Meanwhile, owners of Kai Havertz (£8.4m) are likely at a crossroads following his contribution to this game. Like Werner, the disastrous start to the game for Chelsea did take its toll, but a chance to operate as a number 10 produced the German’s best performance in a Premier League game so far.

Admittedly, he was making that improvement from a low base, but there were still encouraging signs. The question is: has it come soon enough for his 8.8% ownership to retain their faith for one more week.

In the 10th minute, Havertz picked the ball up on the right-hand edge of the penalty box and unleashed a powerful curling effort. Johnstone could not hold onto it, forced to punch it clear.

Then in the closing stages, the former Bayer Leverkusen man found some space in a central area of the penalty box, but his deflected shot went out for a corner.

And it was his link-up with Hudson-Odoi that got Chelsea closer to their hard-earned point in the 70th minute. That assist was his first attacking return of the season, making four a five-point score. Considering the interest in Blues assets this week, that is certainly less than was probably expected by his owners.

Chelsea’s ongoing defensive issues did not help Reece James‘ (£5.1m) Fantasy appeal, who has now blanked in two of his three Premier League outings this season.

Just as was the case against Brighton in Gameweek 1, the Blues were weakest in the full-back areas, and West Bromwich Albion were ruthless in capitalising on that at the Hawthorns.

In the fourth minute, a poor defensive header from Alonso landed at the feet of Matheus Pereira (£6.0m), who slid his pass across to Callum Robinson (£5.5m), who had escaped from James’ notice. He fired an effort across Willy Caballero (£4.9m) into the bottom corner, securing a third attacking return in as many matches for Pereira.

“I didn’t blame the players, I stated the facts on the clear mistakes that led to the goals. It is always going to be difficult in a game like this. It is not a tactical moment, it is a turnover in possession which we spoke about before.” – Frank Lampard

It may also be a little while until Silva adds much-needed stability to Chelsea’s backline as he slipped and gifted possession to Robinson for the third goal. It was Alonso who lost Bartley for the third goal, although it was poor awareness from James that played the West Bromwich Albion defender onside.

“Thiago Silva is going to be fantastic for us. He has been incredible in his career and absolutely, I will not look at him. I can talk about the mistakes, they are clear and I am open and honest about that. We are a team but we have to react around that and, to be fair, the team did in the second half. But, there is nothing on Thiago, I am sure he will stand up and say it was a mistake. But other than that, I thought he was pretty faultless in the game.” – Frank Lampard

Chelsea were much more secure with Azpilicueta coming on at left-back and they should have Edouard Mendy (£5.0m) in goal by the time they face Crystal Palace. Chelsea traditionally more porous in away games, having conceded 42 goals in 21 road trips since the start of last season, more than any other Premier League side since the start of last season. Although the Eagles might not be the best side to face at home right now, as Roy Hodgson’s men have recently developed a propensity for frustrating top-six sides on their own turf.

Meanwhile, the quality of James’ attacking contributions were not quite up to his usual standard at the Hawthorns.

His best pass arrived at the foot of Abraham in the 11th minute, which the striker skied horribly, but aside from that, James’ delivery was all about quantity and not quality. While he fired in a slew of crosses into the box all night, against a three-man defence, he struggled to find his team-mates too often.

Furthermore, James’ delivery from corners was also rather substandard, Chelsea offering much more in that department once Mount took over responsibility for them. As has been mentioned before, James is likely to lose corners and indirect free-kicks from his locker as soon as Ziyech returns to fitness anyway.

West Bromwich Albion XI (5-4-1): Johnstone; C Townsend, O’Shea, Bartley, Ajayi, Furlong; Diangana (M Phillips 74′), Sawyers, Livermore, M Pereira (Field 90+1′); C Robinson (Robson-Kanu 66′).

Chelsea XI (4-2-3-1): Caballero; Alonso (Azpilicueta 46′), T Silva (Giroud 73′), Christensen, R James; Kovačić (Hudson-Odoi 46′), Kanté; Werner, Havertz, Mount; Abraham.

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  1. Alisson WondHaaland
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Theres no rush to do Son to KDB tonight right?

    Its probably the move I'll do unless a Salah Mane double up becomes an option from tomorrows matches

  2. diesel001
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Man City teams in future?

    Ederson
    Walker Dias Laporte Mendy
    KDB Rodri Bernardo
    Mahrez Aguero Sterling

    Steffen
    Cancelo Garcia Ake Zinchenko
    ????? Fernandinho Gundogan
    Torres Jesus Foden

    Sell: Otamendi, Stones

  3. ragonian
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Can’t say I’m a fan of the new click-bait style headlines on articles now

    1. Arctic monkeys
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Been like that for a while

    2. Belmonte33
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      2nd that!

  4. FCSB
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Currently have,

    Salah KDB Son Podence Bissouma

    Best Son replacement ??

    1. FCSB
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      9.5 budget

      1. Dynamic Duos
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Go with your own shout of Rashford then mate

        1. FCSB
          • 8 Years
          3 years, 6 months ago

          Considering him or Mahrez I think mate

          1. Dynamic Duos
            • 10 Years
            3 years, 6 months ago

            Both good picks tbh

    2. Stimps
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      I've gone for Barnes

  5. sully29
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Ancelotti: "Seamus is doing really well. He is an example for all the others of how you need to be: the attitude, the spirit - every day. I've had a lot of captains in my career but how Seamus expresses his love for the shirt is really top. He is a great captain, honestly. I don’t want to forget anyone [I have worked with] but he is up there as a captain with Maldini, John Terry and Sergio Ramos".

    There was talk at the start of the season that his place might be under threat but that doesn't seem to be the case. If you think Everton can tighten up over their good run of fixtures then he might be good value.

    1. FPL_trail_runner
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      He is one attacking return in a year.

      Keane is a better option

    2. thepoet85
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      The Donegal Maldini, legend.

  6. Party time
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Captain poll next gw would be interesting

      1. Dynamic Duos
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Salah

      2. MSTRKRFTSMN
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Gotta be Salah away to villa. Perfect fixture

      3. sully29
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        If they introduce a "F**ck knows" option then we'll have a landslide.

        1. sully29
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          3 years, 6 months ago

          Managed to misspell a four letter word there. This day...

      4. Brosstan
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        I'm capping Ings. F*** the premiums

    • Gudjohnsen
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Son to Mahrez for a hit?

    • Dynamic Duos
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Davies and Saiss to Castagne and Lamptey -4?

      1. luk46
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        just Davies out for now imo

    • Brosstan
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      I honestly don't understand how people ended up with Podence. No one owned him before gw2 and he was rumoured injured before deadline for gw3. Did you knee jerk him in early in the week? He wasn't even rising in price

      1. Niho992
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Bunch of casuals mate. Even if he's fit he is big rotation risk with Neto/Adama and possible 3-5-2 formation.

      2. Arctic monkeys
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Mr hinsight

        1. Brosstan
          • 9 Years
          3 years, 6 months ago

          I was vocal about not getting Podence on wc before the deadline. Nothing hindsight about it...

          1. Arctic monkeys
            • 10 Years
            3 years, 6 months ago

            Not sure what's wrong with getting a 5.5 IF player who plays for a good side

            1. ragonian
              • 10 Years
              3 years, 6 months ago

              This

      3. TAT
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Didn't hear about the injury rumours until after the deadline. Had I known, I wouldn't have brought him in on WC.

      4. Pipermaru
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        There was a lot of Auba+ASM --->KDB+Podence transfers, people went early to not lose team value.

    • Bleh
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      On WC. Which combo wins?

      A. Klich Ings Vardy
      B. Bruno DCL Mitro

      1. Mr. O'Connell
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Who knows anymore

      2. Dynamic Duos
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        B

    • Das Boot
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      -4 done. Kane and Son >>>>>>> Vardy and Mahrez.

      1. Gandalf
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Isn't Vardy flagged? Not sure what happened

    • FPL_trail_runner
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      From an attacking point of view the Wolves fixtures are not amazing (Bar Fulham, New, Leeds and CRY can hold it tight)

      Have Jimi, happy with his points so far.

      But the ings option is very appealing for free transfer.

      Plus Wolves have moved so many players you wonder about the dressing room.

      1. Mr. O'Connell
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Who knows anymore

      2. Pratik
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Southamton's fixtures are very similar too - wba/che/eve/avl/new/wolves. I think Ings and Jiminez should both do well over the next few weeks.

        1. FPL_trail_runner
          • 3 Years
          3 years, 6 months ago

          WBA just give up so many chances

          Plus Wolves are not in a settled attacking system currently.

          I also think Soton have a better chance to score against WBA than Wolves v Fulham

          Ditto against che away

          My main sway is I like ings as a captain this week. His ownership remains low.

          Ings / jimi for me is not longterm. Antonio is the longterm choice in a few weeks

      3. Alisson WondHaaland
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Jimi will return. Unless your team literally has no other issues its literally the biggest sideways move

        1. FPL_trail_runner
          • 3 Years
          3 years, 6 months ago

          Im lucky in that I am good. 120k , 2 players to go and here :

          Mesiler
          Keane Saiss TAA, Justin
          Sterling Salah Hamez, Rashford
          DCL Jimi
          Ayling Biss Brewster

          Next week captain is a big pendulum

    • Mr. O'Connell
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Early transfers on here are getting ridiculous. Need some covid cancelled matches to shake things up next week.

      1. Pipermaru
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Don't think it will be an issue to be honest, I mean it is unlikely for PL to postpone single games, rules are pretty strict, if Covid strikes again whole season will come to stop.

    • You've got red on you.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Son and Mitrovic ----> Soucek and Vardy -4?

      1. Dynamic Duos
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Keep Mitrovic

    • Niho992
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Left 4 Dead 2 available on Steam for less than 2 dollars in next 20 hours.

    • Herman Toothrot
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Goes to a quiet place to remind himself the WC wasn't for one week.

      *cries into a Mars Bar*

    • Riders of Yohan
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Son out for a -4.

      Who to?

      £11.5m ITB

      Already have Salah and KDB

      1. Herman Toothrot
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Bruno

        1. Riders of Yohan
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 6 months ago

          Not worried about the fixtures? Or purely for all those pens?

      2. HaffNanner
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Mahrez

        1. Riders of Yohan
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 6 months ago

          Interesting punt. Still think sterling will play more of the minutes

      3. All about the galacticos
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        hamez, if you don't have him

        1. Riders of Yohan
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 6 months ago

          I do have him already, but thank you

    • Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      I'm gonna wait this week out.

      We need Son news. If he's out for just 1 game, I think I will hold. And with Intl Break coming up, good chance he'll be back for a run of games that looks like: WHU bur BHA wba... There's 3 weeks until that WHU game and just MUN game to survive. Will maybe hold this week and play Lamptey instead. Heck, he would have been my 3rd highest scorer this week and he's planted to my bench...

      1. MSTRKRFTSMN
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Most people probably already gained 0.1 on son anyway so won’t lose on a drop. Patience is key

      2. Danstoke82
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Hamstring issue. Can’t see it being a quick fix surely??

        1. Dr. Rog
          • 14 Years
          3 years, 6 months ago

          3 weeks for hamstring tear usually

      3. ragonian
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Can understand. But it’s a sell for me. Spurs will flip flop from great to appalling under mou imo

    • Cookie Kid
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Where’s the delete button?

    • FOO FIGHTER
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Who else is thinking Leeds are going to thrash City?

      1. FPL Blow-In
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        All I know is that it will definitely be an entertaining game

      2. MSTRKRFTSMN
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Nope, Harrison can’t play against his parent club and city will bounce back.

      3. All about the galacticos
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        I think there'll be goals both ends

    • Brosstan
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Need Grealish to save my game week..

      1. Greasy Grealish Gang
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        You and me both. Fingers crossed!

    • Twisted Melon
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Werner to Vardy?

    • Hairy Potter
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Scenes tomorrow night when pubs shut at 10pm and the Liverpool v Arsenal game hasn't finished.

      1. MSTRKRFTSMN
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Game brought forward to 8pm so that doesn’t happen

        1. Hairy Potter
          • 8 Years
          3 years, 6 months ago

          Really? Didn't realise. Now scenes in my house when my son isn't asleep by 8pm!

        2. Tambling5
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 6 months ago

          Depends how long they look at VAR! Could easily be 10 pm!

    • Vpan
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Would you take a hit to remove Bruno for Sterling and captain him or am I looking for trouble?

      1. Bleh
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Don’t remove Bruno now, especially for a hit. Sterling looked out of sorts.

      2. Brosstan
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Stupid transfer so it's probably the right move this season 😉

      3. Scrumper
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Ollie Burke hat trick nextdoor becoming next week

    • Bleh
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Any early thoughts on this WC draft?

      Martinez (Steer)
      TAA Castagne Lamptey (KWP Mitchell)
      Salah KDB Klich Trossard (Burke)
      Vardy Ings DCL

    • wulfrunian
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Do you think that Vardy will start against WestHam?

      1. Bleh
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Yes

    • grooveymatt65
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Hi guys How does this look?

      My team is:

      McCarthy Martin

      TAA, Ayling, Justin Mitchell Bernado

      Salah Son De Bruyne (c) Zaha Bissouma

      Werner Mitrovic DCL

      (0.2 itb) 1ft

      1. Son to Barnes and Werner to Ings for -4
      2. Son to Mahrez and Werner to Ings/Jiminez for -4
      3. Son to Mahrez and Werner to Vardy for -4
      4. Just Son to Barnes for free
      5. Other

      thanks!!!!

      1. SEXY SOLO SAUCE
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        4 I think.
        Is Son definitely out?

    • SEXY SOLO SAUCE
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      If it’s not broke don’t fix it?
      Had a great start, but have no City. I’m thinking monitor Son, and if out switch to Mahrez as FT?

      Martinez
      TAA | Digne | Dallas
      Salah | Bruno | Son* | Rodriguez | Soucek
      Kane | Wilson

      Steer | Mitchell | Davis | Buur

      1FT, 0ITB

      Thanks

    • Scots Gooner
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Foden likely to start again next week?

      1. MSTRKRFTSMN
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Yeah without Jesus and aguero can’t see him being dropped. Chance he could even be played as a false 9

      2. SEXY SOLO SAUCE
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Who knows let’s be honest!

      3. The Sociologist
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        You never know with Pep, that's the fun! Make sure your 1st bench option is reasonable.

    • EL_FENOMENO
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Son to:
      a) Havertz
      b) Mahrez