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Alisson and Mane miss out for Liverpool as Barkley makes Aston Villa debut

The final match of Gameweek 4 – and the last Premier League fixture before the October international break – sees two sides with 100% winning records square off at Villa Park.

Aston Villa v Liverpool gets underway in the West Midlands at 19:15 BST.

There are two significant changes to Jurgen Klopp’s starting XI, with Sadio Mane (£11.9m) and Alisson (£6.0m) both missing for the visitors.

Mane’s absence we knew about, with Liverpool confirming on Friday that the Senegal international had tested positive for COVID-19.

Diogo Jota (£6.3m) comes in for his first Premier League start for the Reds.

Alisson’s shoulder injury we weren’t aware of ahead of Saturday’s Fantasy Premier League deadline but rumours had gathered momentum about his unavailability this afternoon and the Brazilian indeed sits this one out with a shoulder injury.

Adrian (£4.5m) deputises between the posts.

Klopp shed more light on his first-choice shot-stopper’s injury before the match, saying:

Yesterday an incident in training, very unlucky – two players clash with each other, one gets up, one doesn’t. The one who didn’t get up was Ali.

So, after the first few things, we don’t know 100 per cent. But he cannot play today. We have to do further assessment but he’s injured, let me say it like this. Now we hope it will go really quickly.

It’s an international break, I’m pretty sure after that he will not be ready. Then we have to see week by week.

On Mane, the Liverpool boss added:

He’s good, he’s good. We are obviously in contact pretty often.

He is fine. Monday night, we played Arsenal, played a really good game, after the game it was a really good feeling. And then the problems started immediately. That’s how it is. That’s how life is, that’s how our life is as well, that’s completely normal.

Jordan Henderson (£5.4m) has recovered from a muscle problem but the England midfielder is only among the substitutes this evening.

Aston Villa’s starting XI shows only one change, with Conor Hourihane (£6.0m) dropping to the bench.

Ross Barkley (£5.9m) comes in for the Irishman and makes his Aston Villa debut, following his loan move from Chelsea.

Three-quarters of Liverpool’s backline and Mohamed Salah (£12.2m) boast double-digit ownerships in FPL, with the Egyptian and Trent Alexander-Arnold (£7.5m) the fourth and third most-owned assets overall.

Emi Martinez (£4.6m), who has racked up 19 points in his new club’s first two Premier League matches of the season, is Villa’s most-owned player.


Aston Villa XI: Martínez, Cash, Konsa, Mings, Targett, McGinn, Luiz, Barkley, Trézéguet, Watkins, Grealish.

Liverpool XI: Adrián, Alexander-Arnold, Gomez, van Dijk, Robertson, Keita, Fabinho, Wijnaldum, Salah, Firmino, Jota.

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  1. RAFA THE GAFFA
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Werner+Zaha >> DCL+Son?

    1. Royal5
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      If you want points

    2. Better off with a pin and a…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Oh yes. The value of 2FT 🙂

      1. RAFA THE GAFFA
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Haha! 🙂

  2. Limbo
    • 13 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Haha. Sounez blaming the groundmen.

  3. Nightcrawler
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Sell ings or jiminez for Kane?

    1. Paulie Walnuts
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      I'm selling Jimi

    2. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      The 1 return monster as you say. Not sure why you got him.

    3. JonSnow
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Jimi

  4. Paulie Walnuts
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Hello etc.

    What is the best nailed playing 4.4 defender?

    1. ⚔★Vibudh★⚔
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Jamal Lewis I guess

    2. Dannyb
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Mitchell maybe

    3. Limbo
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Cooper?

  5. Tommy Tynans Left Shin Pad
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Bottomed...

    Have the exact cash to do:

    Trent, Greenwood and Werner >>
    Robertson, Hamez and Kane....

    Kind of goes against my policy for early trannies, but if they all get injured during the IB I guess I can WC

    Should I pull the trigger?

    1. RAFA THE GAFFA
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Make the moves for the ones that are price changing

      1. Tommy Tynans Left Shin Pad
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        That's 2 of them then. Going to have to do it

        1. RAFA THE GAFFA
          • 8 Years
          3 years, 6 months ago

          3 very good signings

  6. nerd_is_the_werd
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Minamino coming on... about time!!

  7. HurriKane
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Is this the most kneejerkery season to date?

    Honestly want a different 11 each gw the way its been going

    So many unpredictable results and VAR drama

    1. Fred54
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Apart from Kane, Son, DCL, Hamez, Saiss...

    2. FPL DONKEY
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Tell me about it. One week I hate my team the next week I love it

  8. manu4life99
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Werner owners are you selling before the potential price drop tonight?

    Werner,Podence > Watkins,Son(-4)?

    1. Dannyb
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Yes

    2. JonSnow
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      good be a big price swing if you wait too long

    3. DannyDrinkVodka
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      I just did the same thing

    4. RAFA THE GAFFA
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Going DCL I think. Enough is enough and the pool fixture no longer puts me off him

    5. Fred54
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Potential? Heh.

    6. Hart-ake
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Solid.

    7. teneighty
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Just pressed the button

    8. mr messi
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Yes

  9. Rligudfootiemanager
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Wildcard decision

    So I saw, in terms of fixtures, Gameweek 8 being the best week for a wildcard (I've still go mine) due to fixture swings around West Ham, Man C, Aston Villa but I feel now that my team has issues - mostly around defence and nailedness. What do we think?

    McCarthy 4.0
    TAA - Doherty - Justin - Vinagre - Mitchell
    Sterling - Rodri - Trossard - De Bruyne - Soucek
    Adams - Jimenez - Mitrovoic

    After IB I will have issues with Justin Vinagre & Mitchell. Doherty concerned about him not playing today & general effectiveness.

    I've been beyond patient for Adams! Both Manchester clubs have fitness issues.

    I need Kane & Son

    I'm thinking Im going to change my plans and go for wildcard over IB. What do we think?

    1. Hulk Smash
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      WC

  10. El Presidente
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Liverpool fans laughing at ManU fans 1h ago...Ah ah ah

    1. Greasy Grealish Gang
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Well, when I take a look at the table I still am.

    2. nerd_is_the_werd
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      I think everyone is laughing at ManU fans...

    3. Stockport Hatter
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Yeh but in fairness United are and have been a joke for a while.

  11. Slitherene
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    OUT : Mitro, Werner, Richarlison
    IN : Maupay, Kane, Wilson

    Exact money, should I take a hit?

    1. The Handsome Hunk
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Watkins instead of Wilson. Better team attacking wise

    2. Twisted Saltergater
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Keep Richarlison

  12. Hulk Smash
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Sounness: "Aston Villa have left the grass a bit longer to stop Liverpool"

    I'm done.

    1. FPL_trail_runner
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      This continues to be a terrible take

      Liverpool fullbacks cost 7m and 7.5ml, they arent premiums and give premium returns

      They will still get close to 200 points and can do this with conceeding in nearly 50% of games in a 38 game season

      I dont get how people claim they are not worth it based on one game

      Its like some self delusion for justifying not having them both

      1. Twisted Saltergater
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        It really does depend on what type of manager you are. If we had to setup a team without free transfers double Liverpool defence might be the way to go, but you can try and optimise when you have them.

        14.5m + Podence can be beaten by 11m + Son, for instance.

  13. $hahriyar
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    My original comment hasn’t been posted yet. I wanna know why

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Pundit one?

      1. $hahriyar
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Yes TM! At least somebody cares! Jeez

          1. $hahriyar
            • 14 Years
            3 years, 6 months ago

            Thank you. It said the comment was being moderated or something. I haven’t been on here in a while. Go figure

    2. Fred54
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Time traveler?

  14. Botman and Robben
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Maybe a full set of 4.5m defenders to rotate is the way to go this season.

    1. Hulk Smash
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Trying to predict clean sheets for a defensive rotation is a fool's errand at the minute

  15. Ibralicious
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Wildcard and triple VIlla the move now surely? The performance of a title contender.

  16. Pedram
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    And to think i was considering doubling up on Liverpool's defense

    1. Como Park Rambler
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Same

    2. FPL_trail_runner
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Dont base decisions on one game

      You want to do better at FPL then your basis for longterm decisions need to be better than a 45min take and stats based

      They remain worth the double up

      1. Other teams still cant match ( City and Everton are not as good as people hoped in defence)

      2. Thiago and Allison will be back in 2 weeks

      3. Theres 2 years of data against this take - 45min doesnt mean anything

      4. There isnt a consisent must have range of premiums to justify dropping them - can easily have the double up and all the current form players ( Hamez, Sterling Salah, Son, DCL etc

      People said the same based on Watford away last year...

      They will and can concede in 20 games a year and still get 200 points.

  17. Sharkytect
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Max kilman.

    Is he a long term pick? Who ishe covering for?

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Marcal

  18. Champions League Varane
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Mahrez,Jimenez,Podence ➡️ Son,Trossard,Watkins = -4?

    Allows me to do Wood to DCL and VVD to Robertson the following week?

    1. Botman and Robben
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      That seems ok. Could you just do Mahrez -> Son for now and wait 2 weeks for the rest?

      1. Champions League Varane
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Unfortunately not 🙁

  19. Granville
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    I watched Watkins closely against Fulham and he was so weak in that game against a very poor opponent. I don't know what to think anymore.

    1. The Suspended One
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Fulham a defensive stalwart?

    2. Champions League Varane
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      I acc thought he was quite good

    3. TheDragon
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      It’s a total lottery so far this season.

    4. Zimo
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Dead team is the way to go

    5. Hotdogs for Tea
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      He was fantastic last season

    6. Brosstan
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Wont face Liverpool every week. Trust your initial eye test

    7. Salan
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      You can't think this season.

  20. The Suspended One
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    City 1-1 against a promoted side
    United 1 Spurs 6
    Liverpool 1 Villa 4
    Leicester 0 wham 3

    Wtf indeed

    1. Ibralicious
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      How is the Leicester result a shock? Mid-table side at best

      1. The Suspended One
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        They were playing David Moyes’ west ham.

        Mid table championship side

      2. THFC4LIFE
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        The beat Man City 5-2 last week that’s how

  21. The Handsome Hunk
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    At this rate, FFS site would shutdown as no stats/suggestions/discussions is helping anyone 😛

  22. TheDragon
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    What is causing this season to be so high scoring?

    It can only be the lack of crowds?

    1. KGFC
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Yep, no diff in home and away matches

    2. Hulk Smash
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      2020 curse

    3. Ginkapo FPL
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Major differences in fitness

  23. Brosstan
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Fraudino reduced to hacking down actual quality players at this point. Offers nothing

    1. ivantys
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      He has a challenger in Jota now

    2. Right In The Stanchion
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Who is fraudinho?

  24. shaunyjames
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Knee jerking hits galore, -8 incoming!

    1. The Suspended One
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      I’m about to take one I think
      Son Kane and pulisic gtf in

      1. shaunyjames
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Son Kane and Hamez in KDB Foden & Vardy out. Queue Vardy hatrick and KDB haul

  25. ivantys
    • 3 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Jota is so bad omg

  26. aapoman
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Kane or Son?

    1. Orion
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Both it seems

    2. Champions League Varane
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Both

  27. Mikey44
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Kane + Saiss in for Werner + Doherty for 2 FT's, sounds good?

    1. aapoman
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Great move

    2. Orion
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Go with cheaper defender

  28. HuttonDressedasLahm
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Any point wasting a WC?
    No idea who to get apart from Spurs Everton

    1. WVA
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Don't do it

  29. diesel001
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Everyone getting Kane and Son in. West Ham 2-0 victory incoming.

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      2 week break will make them rusty.

    2. Tommy Tynans Left Shin Pad
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Probs!