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Why I’m refusing to waver on Klopp’s defensive double-up

Mark Sutherns explains why he’s sticking to his guns amid the Liverpool defensive firesale.


I remain defiant when it comes to Liverpool’s full-backs. An avalanche of goals is flushing funds from Fantasy Premier League defences and Trent Alexander-Arnold (£7.5m) and Andy Robertson (£7.0m) are rapidly being classified as disposable. But I’m not having it.

I’m not denying the logic. Liverpool have kept just four clean sheets in 13 matches since the restart and the injury to Alisson (£6.0m), a crucial component in Jurgen Klopp’s defensive jigsaw, nudges a hapless Adrian (£4.5m) into the firing line.

That worrying scenario provides a sub-plot to a season that, so far, has seen 144 goals scored, a rate of 3.79 goals per game. That’s a ridiculous figure: the record for a Premier League season was set in 1992/93 when we witnessed a rate of 2.65 goals per game.

So FPL managers are reassessing their team structure and flooding to the major benefactors of the goal rush, notably Spurs’ Harry Kane (£10.6m) and Son Heung-min (£9.1m).

Expensive defenders are being sacrificed and, should Alexander-Arnold and Robertson fail to return in Saturday’s Merseyside derby, the evacuation will only gather pace.

But the recent explosion from the Spurs pair isn’t enough to convince me to give up on my two defensive investments. I may well move funds from Lucas Digne (£6.1m) and Reece James (£5.1m) and replace them with £4.5m options, but I’m remaining steadfast on the Liverpool full-backs.

At this stage, FPL managers normally start to seek out trends and patterns vital to drive our decisions – our transfers, our early-season Wildcards.

But we’ve never experienced a start to the season like this. We’re in the midst of something extreme that, to my mind, makes it impossible to find the comforting foothold of reliable data and form.

So with just this small and extraordinary sample of matches as my reference, I’m refusing to write off a player who, prior to Gameweek 1, was the first name on almost every FPL teamsheet.

At the time of writing, over almost 240,000 managers have sold Alexander-Arnold heading into Saturday’s deadline.

Admittedly, his performances have contributed to that trend. He has been short of his best by some margin and has been strangely peripheral to Liverpool’s play. However, Alexander-Arnold’s numbers remain impressive: only West Ham’s Ryan Fredericks (£4.4m) and Aaron Cresswell (£4.9m) have created more chances among players in his Fantasy position, and with seven efforts on goal, no defender has bettered his direct threat. If you are brave enough to use data given the bizarre four Gameweeks we’ve had, there’s little in the numbers to drive you to sell.

Alexander-Arnold is a player that has provided 28 assists and five goals in his previous two campaigns, with his points tally improving from 185 points to 210. Since the start of the 2019/20 campaign, only Kevin De Bruyne (£11.6m) and Jack Grealish (£7.1m) have created more chances and on Boxing Day last year, the right-back coupled that creativity with an eye for goal to haul of 24-points, a record for a defender in the history of FPL.

Is this really an asset we can reject on the basis of four bizarre Gameweeks?

On Liverpool’s opposite flank, Robertson appears to be reaching new levels as an attacking outlet. He’s overshadowed Alexander-Arnold since the restart, creating more chances (22 vs 20) and more big chances (six versus three), while he’s surely passed the eye test.

The Scot is pouring forward on the left flank, overlapping Mane time and time again. He already has a first goal to his name and there should be more to come.

Fabinho bolsters Liverpool defence as Werner shows promise ahead of West Brom

Liverpool will be backed to be second only to Manchester City for goals scored again this season and, collectively, their full-backs have provided 34% of the assists since the start of the 2018/19 season.

So while the chances of clean sheets in the short-term may be diminished by Adrian’s tenure, Klopp’s side will have to score more goals to win matches and that will surely benefit their primary source of creativity.

And I’m not giving up on defensive returns, either.

We have to expect Klopp to react to the Villa Park mauling. He will surely focus on shutting down the gaps that were exploited in that defeat. The return of Jordan Henderson (£5.4m) and Sadio Mane (£11.9m) – both vital to Liverpool’s pressing game that denies opponents the time to exploit a high line – must also be factored in.

That aforementioned record of four clean sheets from 13 outings includes eight matches when the title was almost in the bag. But Liverpool cannot show any complacency now. Pep Guardiola will demand that his City side match Liverpool’s own relentless consistency, so Klopp will know that he has to quickly find a solution to their defensive frailties.

The fixture list convinces me that I can give him time.

Liverpool face just a Gameweek 8 trip to the Etihad and a home clash with Spurs in Gameweek 13 as major tests before the deadline for the first Wildcard.

So for this FPL manager, Alexander-Arnold and Robertson remain at the status they held before the madness ensued: unique assets who can present outstanding value.

They are investments worthy of that extra five million, particularly when I can compensate for that spend by investigating mid-price assets in attacking areas. We’ve already seen that Grealish, James Rodriguez (£7.6m), Dominic Calvert Lewin (£7.6m) and Michail Antonio (£6.3m) are options that offer the potential of returns that keep pace or even better the top tier players.

It’s going to take a Jose Mourinho team to go on scoring five and six goals a game to convince me otherwise. At that point, the madness shifts to a whole new level.


Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

3,031 Comments Post a Comment
  1. Mitos77
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    why nobody talking about Ziyech?

    1. ZTF
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Because he’s not ready to start

    2. Qaiss
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Shhhhhhh

    3. MagicMessi
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Because he is a sub

  2. Qaiss
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    KDB is coming out but we all know he’s going to start and Pep says he had a late fitness test and said he felt he could play, right?

    1. Unfathomable Ruination
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Nah mate

    2. have you seen cyan
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Hmm, that will look nice next to me taking out Son before GW4

    3. MagicMessi
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      No he won't start

  3. Unfathomable Ruination
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Bottomed. Alright here's my team:

    Guaita
    Digne - James - Castagne
    Son - Salah - Klich - Podence - KDB*
    Werner - DCL

    4.0, Saiss, Davis, Dunne and 2FT.

    WHO DO I TRADE KDB FOR? James and then upgrade Podence to the likes of Grealish? Or do KDB to Mane and downgrade Podence to Jorginho?

    1. Tonyawesome69
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Grealish and Pulisic

    2. Pep Roulette
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Mane & March?

  4. Tonyawesome69
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Start Taylor and Ayling instead of Bissouma and Justin?

    1. Unfathomable Ruination
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Start Justin for sure. I'd start Ayling as well, just a hunch.

      1. Tonyawesome69
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        LEI looks like they will be struggling with injuries and against a good Villa team

        1. Unfathomable Ruination
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 6 months ago

          Still, if you have Justin, he's so attacking. Might as well take a chance.

          1. Tonyawesome69
            • 5 Years
            3 years, 6 months ago

            Hmm ahead of Taylor who probably has a decent chance of a CS?

  5. 2OLEgend
    • 3 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Just saw the KDB and Vardy news. What to do? 2FT & 2m ITB

    A: KDB to Salah
    B: KDB & Vardy to Salah & Kane
    C: KDB & Podence to Sterling & Grealish

    Team is:
    McCarthy
    TAA, Saiss, Taylor
    KDB*, Son, Bruno, Podence
    DCL, Vardy*, Mitro
    (Steer, Bissouma, Ayling, Mitchell)

    Need some input guys - thanks

    1. Unfathomable Ruination
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      B looks pretty good to me!

    2. Goons
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      B is an easy one for me

  6. jia you
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Start one this GW? (own Saiss)
    A. Lamptey
    B. Coady
    C. Burke

    1. Unfathomable Ruination
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      B, might as well.

      1. jia you
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Yeah should likely stick my double Wolves plan out until fixtures turn I guess... cheers

    2. Tonyawesome69
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      B only one that is guaranteed to start

  7. Cruyff's Eleven
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Do you think Butland can take Guaita's spot?

    1. Pep Roulette
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      No

    2. Unfathomable Ruination
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Not any time soon!

    3. @FPLMason
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Backup keeper.

    4. noquarternt
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Very unlikely, Guaita is one of the best in the league.

    5. MagicMessi
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      No way

  8. thepuntmaster
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Apologies for the long post, bug last minute worries. Here’s my side at the mo...

    McCarthy (che)
    TAA (eve) - Mitchell (BHA) - Saiss (lee)
    KDB* (ARS) - Salah (eve) - Fernandes (new) - Pereria (BUR)
    DCL (LIV) - Jimi (lee) - Mitro (shu)

    Steer - Lascelles - Bissouma - Johnson

    1FT, 0.4 itb
    A) Play Bissouma (Hold KDB)
    B) KDB > Son
    C) Wildcard to the below...
    Ryan - Steele
    TAA - Digne - PVA - Ayling - TAA
    Salah - Fernandes - Zaha - Trossard - Anguissa
    Kane - DCL - Watkins

    Any thoughts??

    1. Tonyawesome69
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      B

    2. Unfathomable Ruination
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      B is most simple option. Don't WC this late in the game. Be patient but B is a solid move.

      Would love your thoughts on my dilemma above.

    3. @FPLMason
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      B

  9. Manani
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    start Brewster or Podence?

    1. Unfathomable Ruination
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Podence, if you're keeping him.

    2. Tonyawesome69
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Probably Brewster who has more of a chance to start

    3. Hart-ake
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Podence. Good fixture for him. Brewster starts on the bench imo.

  10. Pep Roulette
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    A. Son & Podence

    B. Grealish & Zaha (-4)

    Also have Kane

    1. Unfathomable Ruination
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      A, which makes me think I should keep Podence ...

    2. Tonyawesome69
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      A

    3. Pep Roulette
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Cheers fam

  11. Goons
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Who to start?

    A) Lamptey
    B) Podence

    Cheers

    1. ZTF
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      A easily

  12. JURGENAUT
    • 3 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Following zaha’s injury news, should I ship him out or does anyone think he’ll play?

  13. have you seen cyan
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    I think the PL could be wide open this season, hopefully Spurs sneak it.
    City and Liverpool arent convincing, Everton will do a Leciester from last season, play good for a long time, then ultimately chuck it away. And well ManU...

  14. ZTF
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    United or Chelsea defence for this week only?

    1. FPL Theorist
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      United have a defence?

      1. ZTF
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        I should probably just accept that it’s going to be impossible to get serious answers about utd for a while

        1. have you seen cyan
          • 4 Years
          3 years, 6 months ago

          did you lose a bet?

  15. JakeTheRed
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Think I’m set.

    WCT:
    Martinez - (Steer)
    Robbo - Saiss - Dallas - (KWP) - (Mitchell)
    Salah - Son(vc) - Pulisic - Rodriguez - Grealish
    Kane(c) - Maupay - (Brewster)

  16. Reeker
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Az"s wildcard stream on blackbox was 10/10 and nothing even happened

    1. Tonyawesome69
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Dropped TAA...

      1. Reeker
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Oh I forgot the 0.1 that Az can save that will skyrocket through the ranks

  17. andymck
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Quick wc draft, any thoughts? 0.1 ITB

    Martinez Button
    TAA Semedo Dallas Lamptey Ferguson
    Salah Son Grealish Rodriguez Bissouma
    Kane DCL Maupay

    1. Prison Mike
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Very nice draft

  18. Prison Mike
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Who to get on WC? Have DCL and Watkins

    A) Grealish

    B) James Rodriguez

    1. FPL_DON
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      a

  19. JURGENAUT
    • 3 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Zaha owners, what you doing?

    1. have you seen cyan
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      stick ofc, I think he scores against Brighton sometimes

      1. JURGENAUT
        • 3 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Does the injury news not worry you? That’s what I’m unsure about if he plays or not

  20. Jive Turkey
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Werner to Kane (C) for -4?

    Have Son... if that matters

    1. Tonyawesome69
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      No, Werner could be a good C choice for this GW

    2. jia you
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      no way I'd do that considering the fixtures this GW and Chelsea having attacking players fit

  21. jia you
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    3.7 in the bank makes me feel so uncomfortable lol, especially after a couple of hits!

  22. Muscout
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Castagne or Reguilon

    Already have Chilwell

  23. DeadStarComing
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    I don’t understand the Pulisic love. Hasn’t started a game this season and from what I remember he blanked a lot last season. Someone sell him to me.

    1. Puyol Pants Up
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Was amazing after lockdown. Chelsea's main guy, shades of Eden Hazard and was performing in FPL too. I'm pretty sure most people would have had him in their GW 1 side if he was fit.

      1. DeadStarComing
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Is it not high risk to jump on him before he’s even started a game? Has he played over international break or is it really just the 7 minutes so far?

  24. emyoueffsee
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Locked in for gw5

    Ryan
    TAA Justin Saiss
    Salah Trossard Mane Son(c)
    Werner DLC Mitrovic

    Bissouma KWP Branthwaite

    1. Top Lad Dakes.
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Looking good, and a bit different. Help below?

  25. Puyol Pants Up
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Currently on WC and have the defence of:

    Robbo, KWP, Dallas, Lamptey, 4.0

    I have 0.4 itb, should I upgrade the 4.0 to a playing defender like Lewis? Or should I keep the fodder and leave him on the bench permanently?

    1. Top Lad Dakes.
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Perma bench for now imo, money may be better used elsewhere. Would only be tempted to upgrade if playing 4 ATB as that gives more rotation ability

      Help below? X

  26. Top Lad Dakes.
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Hiya all. 0FT 0.3 ITB and a bit stuck
    A) Bench KDB, play Saiss, reassess options after GW
    B) KDB —> Pulisic (-4) - prem proven but returning from long layoff
    C) KDB —> Havertz (-4) - good IB form, maybe more nailed?
    D) KDB Davis —> Grealish Brewster (-8) annoying extra hit but gives better bench at least
    E) any other, including Rashford

    Martinez (Steer)
    Robbo Lamptey Taylor (Saiss Mitchell)
    Salah KDB* Son(c) JRodriguez Podence
    Jimenez DCL (Davis)

    Cheers all 🙂

    1. Goons
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      A imo. KDB could be out for 1 week and think Saiss could do decent so not worth a hit. Why did you decide to bench Saiss over Lamptey?

    2. emyoueffsee
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Do Kdb to Mane quickly before price change. Dbl Liverpool attack looks good for next 2 fixtures even if he blanks tomorrow.

    3. Super Silva Haze
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Kdb to Rashford or Greenwood and bank the rest,

  27. Super Silva Haze
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Wildcard activated, As the bold Fabrizio would say ... Here We Go!!

    Anything needing changed here lads?

    Ryan
    Vvd Reguilon Lamptey
    Salah Son Grealish Greenwood Rodriguez
    Kane Calvert-Lewin

    Forster Brewster Kwp Burr

    1. Tonyawesome69
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Greenwood - I wouldn't bring in any Utd players at the moment. They are struggling

    2. Top Lad Dakes.
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Solid mate, and a bit different. Should do well. Hopefully rebuilding not rotated w Davies.

      I think Greenwood could even start up too, could be golden. Help above?

    3. Hart-ake
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Not liking the vvd punt. Go Robbo or Trent.

  28. Sterling Malory
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    In Draft (to keep for season)

    A) Cavani
    B) Lacazette

    Currently have Laca.

    1. Top Lad Dakes.
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Laca

  29. Francescoli
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Keep James or move him on for another defender? If so who?

  30. Mile Plankton
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Hey guys, can I get your thoughts.

    a) KDB -> Son
    or
    b) KDB -> Sterling/Mahrez?

    Have Kane already.

    1. Tonyawesome69
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      A