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Why I’m refusing to waver on Klopp’s defensive double-up

Mark Sutherns explains why he’s sticking to his guns amid the Liverpool defensive firesale.


I remain defiant when it comes to Liverpool’s full-backs. An avalanche of goals is flushing funds from Fantasy Premier League defences and Trent Alexander-Arnold (£7.5m) and Andy Robertson (£7.0m) are rapidly being classified as disposable. But I’m not having it.

I’m not denying the logic. Liverpool have kept just four clean sheets in 13 matches since the restart and the injury to Alisson (£6.0m), a crucial component in Jurgen Klopp’s defensive jigsaw, nudges a hapless Adrian (£4.5m) into the firing line.

That worrying scenario provides a sub-plot to a season that, so far, has seen 144 goals scored, a rate of 3.79 goals per game. That’s a ridiculous figure: the record for a Premier League season was set in 1992/93 when we witnessed a rate of 2.65 goals per game.

So FPL managers are reassessing their team structure and flooding to the major benefactors of the goal rush, notably Spurs’ Harry Kane (£10.6m) and Son Heung-min (£9.1m).

Expensive defenders are being sacrificed and, should Alexander-Arnold and Robertson fail to return in Saturday’s Merseyside derby, the evacuation will only gather pace.

But the recent explosion from the Spurs pair isn’t enough to convince me to give up on my two defensive investments. I may well move funds from Lucas Digne (£6.1m) and Reece James (£5.1m) and replace them with £4.5m options, but I’m remaining steadfast on the Liverpool full-backs.

At this stage, FPL managers normally start to seek out trends and patterns vital to drive our decisions – our transfers, our early-season Wildcards.

But we’ve never experienced a start to the season like this. We’re in the midst of something extreme that, to my mind, makes it impossible to find the comforting foothold of reliable data and form.

So with just this small and extraordinary sample of matches as my reference, I’m refusing to write off a player who, prior to Gameweek 1, was the first name on almost every FPL teamsheet.

At the time of writing, over almost 240,000 managers have sold Alexander-Arnold heading into Saturday’s deadline.

Admittedly, his performances have contributed to that trend. He has been short of his best by some margin and has been strangely peripheral to Liverpool’s play. However, Alexander-Arnold’s numbers remain impressive: only West Ham’s Ryan Fredericks (£4.4m) and Aaron Cresswell (£4.9m) have created more chances among players in his Fantasy position, and with seven efforts on goal, no defender has bettered his direct threat. If you are brave enough to use data given the bizarre four Gameweeks we’ve had, there’s little in the numbers to drive you to sell.

Alexander-Arnold is a player that has provided 28 assists and five goals in his previous two campaigns, with his points tally improving from 185 points to 210. Since the start of the 2019/20 campaign, only Kevin De Bruyne (£11.6m) and Jack Grealish (£7.1m) have created more chances and on Boxing Day last year, the right-back coupled that creativity with an eye for goal to haul of 24-points, a record for a defender in the history of FPL.

Is this really an asset we can reject on the basis of four bizarre Gameweeks?

On Liverpool’s opposite flank, Robertson appears to be reaching new levels as an attacking outlet. He’s overshadowed Alexander-Arnold since the restart, creating more chances (22 vs 20) and more big chances (six versus three), while he’s surely passed the eye test.

The Scot is pouring forward on the left flank, overlapping Mane time and time again. He already has a first goal to his name and there should be more to come.

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Liverpool will be backed to be second only to Manchester City for goals scored again this season and, collectively, their full-backs have provided 34% of the assists since the start of the 2018/19 season.

So while the chances of clean sheets in the short-term may be diminished by Adrian’s tenure, Klopp’s side will have to score more goals to win matches and that will surely benefit their primary source of creativity.

And I’m not giving up on defensive returns, either.

We have to expect Klopp to react to the Villa Park mauling. He will surely focus on shutting down the gaps that were exploited in that defeat. The return of Jordan Henderson (£5.4m) and Sadio Mane (£11.9m) – both vital to Liverpool’s pressing game that denies opponents the time to exploit a high line – must also be factored in.

That aforementioned record of four clean sheets from 13 outings includes eight matches when the title was almost in the bag. But Liverpool cannot show any complacency now. Pep Guardiola will demand that his City side match Liverpool’s own relentless consistency, so Klopp will know that he has to quickly find a solution to their defensive frailties.

The fixture list convinces me that I can give him time.

Liverpool face just a Gameweek 8 trip to the Etihad and a home clash with Spurs in Gameweek 13 as major tests before the deadline for the first Wildcard.

So for this FPL manager, Alexander-Arnold and Robertson remain at the status they held before the madness ensued: unique assets who can present outstanding value.

They are investments worthy of that extra five million, particularly when I can compensate for that spend by investigating mid-price assets in attacking areas. We’ve already seen that Grealish, James Rodriguez (£7.6m), Dominic Calvert Lewin (£7.6m) and Michail Antonio (£6.3m) are options that offer the potential of returns that keep pace or even better the top tier players.

It’s going to take a Jose Mourinho team to go on scoring five and six goals a game to convince me otherwise. At that point, the madness shifts to a whole new level.


Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

3,031 Comments Post a Comment
  1. fish&chips
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Martinez, (4.0)
    Semedo*, James, Saiss, (lamptey*), (Mitchell)
    KDB*, Sterling*, Son, Havertz, (Bissouma)
    Jimmy, DCL, Brewster

    0FT, 2.3 ITB

    KDB -> Salah for a hit is a no brainer right? particularly as I have a few other yellow flagged players.

    1. the dom 1
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      i'd do it for sure.

    2. Top Lad Dakes.
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Defi

    3. fish&chips
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Thanks guys

  2. Ali.h
    • 3 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    A) Adams and Kdb to kane and Greenwood(grealish)?
    Or
    B) Adams to Watkins and Kdb to raheem?

    If A then Greenwood or grealish?

    1. FantasyHero
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      I like A with grealish

  3. the dom 1
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Going by FPL stats looks like Son, Kane, Hames, Saiss, DCL & watkins could or should rise right?

    1. EgyptianKing
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Seems so... But lots of WC activated

      1. Ibralicious
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Yeah. This. Don't think all of them would rise, I have my fingers crossed for TAA to become 7.4 so I can grab him on my WC 😀

  4. Top Lad Dakes.
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Thing is - City and KDB were struggling anyway, and have a tough immediate fixture run.

    Even if I want him for most of the season, could probably go without for a few weeks til I have a clear way to get him back (unless the hit flops and I can go straight back ofc).

    Famous last words

    1. Mile Plankton
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      My thoughts exactly.

  5. EgyptianKing
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Mates best 5.1 max defender? On WC.

    Go for Saiss?

    1. Top Lad Dakes.
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Aye imo

  6. Top Lad Dakes.
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Play Saiss or Taylor

    1. 2OLEgend
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Saiss

    2. cutch
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Saïss

  7. Balls of Steel
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    How likely is Pulisic to start this weekend against the Saints?

    1. Top Lad Dakes.
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Quite imo, but I’m just very worried he gets hauled off at or before 60 mins...

      1. Balls of Steel
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        As a Werner owner I would be delighted to see him start as this would allow Timo to play in a more central role rather than drifting wider and deeper as he has done so in previous games this season.

  8. Heisenberg W. W.
    • 3 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Opinion on my WC team

    McCarthy (Martin)
    Castagne-Mitchel-Saiss-(Bernado-Lamptey)
    Salah-J Rodriguez-Zaha-Son(Stephens)
    Jimenez-Kane-DCL

    Thinking of swapping Bamford and Grealish for Jimenez and Stephens for the long run

    But then torn between playing Grealish or Zaha this gw

    1. Top Lad Dakes.
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      If you do the swap you don’t have to choose - bench bamford

  9. cutch
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Sorry to repost, looking for some more answers:

    Play one:

    A) Lamptey
    B) Anguissa
    C) Mitchell
    D) None (that would mean selling KDB for a hit)

    1. 2OLEgend
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      A

    2. Top Lad Dakes.
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      I’m playing Lamptey

    3. Mile Plankton
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Damn. I just realized I have 3 Crystal Palace players.
      Playing Guaita, Mitchell and Zaha.

      So, C

    4. cfreel
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      A. Unless Zaha starts palace have no real threat and Lamptey good attacking option.
      Hold onto KDB as he’s a season keeper

  10. Yankee Toffee
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    In a season "that, so far, has seen 144 goals scored, a rate of 3.79 goals per game." Why would you double up on any defense?

    1. the dom 1
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      I think last season yes for double up but this season i wouldnt be doubling up thats for sure.

    2. Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      But that could also mean that if your team is one of the few that keeps a clean sheet you're raking it in.

      It's just higher variance really.

      1. Yankee Toffee
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        True, the stakes are higher. With bigger gains come bigger losses.

        But with CSs hard to come by, personally, I feel that playing it safe is a wiser choice at this point.

  11. Top Lad Dakes.
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Any takers for Havertz over Pulisic? Why not?

  12. Top Lad Dakes.
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Basically, worried Pulisic gets minutes managed herez

    Sorry, was meant to all be one post

  13. Sun Jihai
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Team looks in ok shape to get through the game week, just hope one of James or Mitchell start

    Martinez
    TAA Saiss James*
    Salah Mahrez Foden Klich
    Werner DCL Brewster

    Forster Mitchell KWP KDB*

    A) KDB to Son (and benching Klich) o
    B) Foden to Grealish
    C) Save FT

    Would be looking at Werner to Kane the following GW.

    1. Top Lad Dakes.
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Probably A, all the rage.

    2. cfreel
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      C

  14. Top Lad Dakes.
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Do we reckon Podence starts?

    1. the dom 1
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      hope so as now KDB is out he was my first sub

    2. Balls of Steel
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      I'm wondering the same. I have my doubts about him holding down a regular spot in this Wolves team tbh!

  15. Dr. Ante Pavlovic
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Ryan
    Chilwell, Semedo, Reguilon
    Salah, Pulisic, Son(c), James, Zaha
    DCL, Kane

    Button, Brewster, Justin, Mitchell

    What do you think ?

    1. the dom 1
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      G2G

    2. Bad Kompany
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Gtg

  16. thepuntmaster
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    A) Son + Mitro
    B) Kane + Zaha (-4)

    1. MagicMessi
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      B

    2. JJeyy
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      A

    3. cfreel
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      A less injury worries throughout season not worth the hit as all good options

    4. Mile Plankton
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      A

  17. JJeyy
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Reguilon or Saiss?

    Seems like attacking threat v cs chance

  18. Bad Kompany
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Is Doherty likely to start this gw?

    1. cfreel
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Not sure. I have him in my team still and was going to transfer out but thought if he starts he could score well

  19. MagicMessi
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Captain
    Kane. Or. Werner. ???

    1. cfreel
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Kane. Always seems to score against West Ham. Werner too unknown and still hasn’t scored. Wouldn’t be worried about having Werner in my team but not for captaincy

      1. MagicMessi
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Ok thanks sound logical but what you think of Sterling as captain?
        It's just Kane's home form worries me I've had too many 2 pointers from him before in home easy games and it's not good

        1. cfreel
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 6 months ago

          Sterling would be a good differential captain I think. But as a West Ham fan I’m almost resigned to Kane scoring haha. Kane is my captain for the week.

  20. tokara
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    How many of u are glad kdb is out? I mean u can get Kane Aguero or even Pull at his expense

    1. the dom 1
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      most will have to take a hit unless you have WC or 2FT's saved.

      Not the happiest scenario for most really lol

  21. janowsc
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Brewster starting or what?

    1. Bad Kompany
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      I’d imagine so

  22. Nightf0x
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Kdb davis -4 to which duo? Itb 18.4)

    A) Ings antonio kun vardy
    B) Puli grealish jrod barnes foden sterling

  23. ZimZalabim
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    bench 1

    A. Saiss vs leeds away
    B. Taylor vs west brom away
    C. Davies vs West Ham home

    1. cfreel
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      C. Davies as a risk of not starting

  24. cutch
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    My problem if i don't sell KDB for a hit is that I don't know who to captain (I'm in a "no Spurs ML", so I have neither Son nor Kane)

    Martínez - Steer
    Saïss, Castagne, Chilwell, Lamptey - Mitchell
    Salah, Hamez, Grealish - Anguissa, KDB
    DCL, Ings, Jiménez

    Salah seems the obvious captain, but I don't know with that tricky Everton fixture.
    Any opinion?

  25. Top Lad Dakes.
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Really can’t decide on Pulisic v Havertz

    Quite worried that Pulisic could get minutes severely managed on injury return given options available to Frank, but also Havertz hasn’t lit the world on fire - yet

    1. Bob B
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Pulisic if you're on WC

      1. Top Lad Dakes.
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        I’m not

    2. cfreel
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Skip both as Chelsea midfield presents too many rotation risks at the moment

  26. Super John McGinn-
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    A) Chilwell, Saiss, Lamptey, Stephens, Maupay
    B) Coady, Lamptey, Dallas, Hamez, Brewster
    C) Chilwell, Semedo/Regulion, Dallas, Stephens, Maupay.

    Martinez, Forster
    Robbo, Chilwell, Saiss, Lamptey, Ferguson
    Salah, Son, Pulisic, Grealish, Stephens
    Kane, DCL, Maupay

  27. Bob B
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Martinez (4.0)
    XXX Lamptey KWP Dallas (3.9)
    XXX Salah Sterling Son Pulisic
    DCL Antonio (Brewster)

    A. TAA & Grealish
    B. Robertson & Rodriguez
    C. Chilwell & Rashford

    1. FCSB
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      B but I prefer Grealish over Pulisic

  28. FCSB
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    For a bit of an alternative wildcard (have two teams so go for something different in this one), how’s this?

    Meslier Forster
    TAA Semedo Chilwell Konsa Ferguson
    Salah Fernandes Pulisic Bissouma Stephens
    Kane DCL Watkins

    0.1 itb

    Thanks

  29. Dr. Ante Pavlovic
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Kane or Son for captain?

    1. the dom 1
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Son

  30. Stupendous
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Come on let's have 6 risers!!! FPL stats correct?

    1. the dom 1
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      heres hoping but WC's in play will cause havoc