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Why I’m refusing to waver on Klopp’s defensive double-up

Mark Sutherns explains why he’s sticking to his guns amid the Liverpool defensive firesale.


I remain defiant when it comes to Liverpool’s full-backs. An avalanche of goals is flushing funds from Fantasy Premier League defences and Trent Alexander-Arnold (£7.5m) and Andy Robertson (£7.0m) are rapidly being classified as disposable. But I’m not having it.

I’m not denying the logic. Liverpool have kept just four clean sheets in 13 matches since the restart and the injury to Alisson (£6.0m), a crucial component in Jurgen Klopp’s defensive jigsaw, nudges a hapless Adrian (£4.5m) into the firing line.

That worrying scenario provides a sub-plot to a season that, so far, has seen 144 goals scored, a rate of 3.79 goals per game. That’s a ridiculous figure: the record for a Premier League season was set in 1992/93 when we witnessed a rate of 2.65 goals per game.

So FPL managers are reassessing their team structure and flooding to the major benefactors of the goal rush, notably Spurs’ Harry Kane (£10.6m) and Son Heung-min (£9.1m).

Expensive defenders are being sacrificed and, should Alexander-Arnold and Robertson fail to return in Saturday’s Merseyside derby, the evacuation will only gather pace.

But the recent explosion from the Spurs pair isn’t enough to convince me to give up on my two defensive investments. I may well move funds from Lucas Digne (£6.1m) and Reece James (£5.1m) and replace them with £4.5m options, but I’m remaining steadfast on the Liverpool full-backs.

At this stage, FPL managers normally start to seek out trends and patterns vital to drive our decisions – our transfers, our early-season Wildcards.

But we’ve never experienced a start to the season like this. We’re in the midst of something extreme that, to my mind, makes it impossible to find the comforting foothold of reliable data and form.

So with just this small and extraordinary sample of matches as my reference, I’m refusing to write off a player who, prior to Gameweek 1, was the first name on almost every FPL teamsheet.

At the time of writing, over almost 240,000 managers have sold Alexander-Arnold heading into Saturday’s deadline.

Admittedly, his performances have contributed to that trend. He has been short of his best by some margin and has been strangely peripheral to Liverpool’s play. However, Alexander-Arnold’s numbers remain impressive: only West Ham’s Ryan Fredericks (£4.4m) and Aaron Cresswell (£4.9m) have created more chances among players in his Fantasy position, and with seven efforts on goal, no defender has bettered his direct threat. If you are brave enough to use data given the bizarre four Gameweeks we’ve had, there’s little in the numbers to drive you to sell.

Alexander-Arnold is a player that has provided 28 assists and five goals in his previous two campaigns, with his points tally improving from 185 points to 210. Since the start of the 2019/20 campaign, only Kevin De Bruyne (£11.6m) and Jack Grealish (£7.1m) have created more chances and on Boxing Day last year, the right-back coupled that creativity with an eye for goal to haul of 24-points, a record for a defender in the history of FPL.

Is this really an asset we can reject on the basis of four bizarre Gameweeks?

On Liverpool’s opposite flank, Robertson appears to be reaching new levels as an attacking outlet. He’s overshadowed Alexander-Arnold since the restart, creating more chances (22 vs 20) and more big chances (six versus three), while he’s surely passed the eye test.

The Scot is pouring forward on the left flank, overlapping Mane time and time again. He already has a first goal to his name and there should be more to come.

Fabinho bolsters Liverpool defence as Werner shows promise ahead of West Brom

Liverpool will be backed to be second only to Manchester City for goals scored again this season and, collectively, their full-backs have provided 34% of the assists since the start of the 2018/19 season.

So while the chances of clean sheets in the short-term may be diminished by Adrian’s tenure, Klopp’s side will have to score more goals to win matches and that will surely benefit their primary source of creativity.

And I’m not giving up on defensive returns, either.

We have to expect Klopp to react to the Villa Park mauling. He will surely focus on shutting down the gaps that were exploited in that defeat. The return of Jordan Henderson (£5.4m) and Sadio Mane (£11.9m) – both vital to Liverpool’s pressing game that denies opponents the time to exploit a high line – must also be factored in.

That aforementioned record of four clean sheets from 13 outings includes eight matches when the title was almost in the bag. But Liverpool cannot show any complacency now. Pep Guardiola will demand that his City side match Liverpool’s own relentless consistency, so Klopp will know that he has to quickly find a solution to their defensive frailties.

The fixture list convinces me that I can give him time.

Liverpool face just a Gameweek 8 trip to the Etihad and a home clash with Spurs in Gameweek 13 as major tests before the deadline for the first Wildcard.

So for this FPL manager, Alexander-Arnold and Robertson remain at the status they held before the madness ensued: unique assets who can present outstanding value.

They are investments worthy of that extra five million, particularly when I can compensate for that spend by investigating mid-price assets in attacking areas. We’ve already seen that Grealish, James Rodriguez (£7.6m), Dominic Calvert Lewin (£7.6m) and Michail Antonio (£6.3m) are options that offer the potential of returns that keep pace or even better the top tier players.

It’s going to take a Jose Mourinho team to go on scoring five and six goals a game to convince me otherwise. At that point, the madness shifts to a whole new level.


Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

3,031 Comments Post a Comment
  1. b91jh
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Would Mane starts? Looking for KDB replacement but Salah would block my move to Hamez next week.

    First sub Mitchell if it matters.

    1. ⚔★Vibudh★⚔
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Get Salah

  2. ⚔★Vibudh★⚔
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    KDB to Sterling for a hit or play Mitchell?
    Already on a -4..

    1. Dexters Laboratory
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Hit

    2. aleksios
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Hit.

    3. LegendMoon
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      hit

    4. Weasel Boy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Not sure it worth another hit.
      Can't see City smashing Arsenal.
      Not even sure they'll win.

  3. Amey
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Anyone knows whether Fredericks has lost his spot in WHU team ??

    1. ⚔★Vibudh★⚔
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Yes I think after the arrival of Coufal.
      Coufal is nailed though

      1. LegendMoon
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        no attack whatsoever from him though

      2. Amey
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Thanks mate

    2. LegendMoon
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      I was wondering this after Mark talks him up in the article, has Coufal taken his spot?

      1. Amey
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Yeah
        Wondering same

    3. Pukki Party
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Think it's his spot and Coufal backup.

      1. Amey
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Confusing this 😀

    4. LegendMoon
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Don't think the Hammers would let Moyes spend money on an International to sit on the bench

      1. Amey
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Yeah
        Agree

  4. Eleven Hag
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    When do you expect Rodrigo to start and how could that affect Bamford's chances to start?

    1. Amey
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      I think bubble will burst any time now

  5. Emiliano Sala
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Please help me! On WC

    A) Werner + Reguilon
    B) Richarlison + Robbo

    Guaita
    TAA Chilwell ----
    Salah Son Pulisic J.Rod Grealish
    ---- Watkins

    4.0 Brewster Lamptey 3.9

    1. aleksios
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      B.

    2. Emiliano Sala
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      I think of werner as a differential now!
      Most active teams have sold him and Pulisic is back too

    3. Scotty Dog
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Held Werner for weeks so I wouldn't be ready to jump back on that bandwagon anytime soon

      1. Emiliano Sala
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Hmmmm
        Maybe things be different this time?

  6. aleksios
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Already on -4 so:

    a) KDB to anyone for another hit
    b) Play Burke or Lamptey.

    Thanks guys.

    1. pratul09
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      B

    2. Emiliano Sala
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Lamptey. But kdb will be out for 2-3 games imo

    3. Make United Great Again
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      A

    4. Salah’s Sonnet
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      A all day

  7. pratul09
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Front 8 -
    Son, Salah, KDB, Hames (Bissouma)
    Jimi, DCL, Bamford

    A. KDB to Puli
    B. KDB to Grealish
    C. KDB to Puli & Jimi to Kane? (-4)
    D. KDB to Grealish & Bamford to Aguero? (-4)
    E. KDB to Grealish & Bamford to Werner? (-4)

    Suggestions lads?

    1. aleksios
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      D.

      1. pratul09
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Worth the hit?

    2. Scotty Dog
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      C

  8. Weeb Kakashi
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Thoughts on this WC Team?

    Areola
    Robbo Lamptey Dallas KWP 3.9
    Salah Son Pulisic Barkley Stephens
    Kane Jimenez Richarlison

    Thoughts??

    1. Emiliano Sala
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      G2g

    2. aleksios
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Dont like Rich and Barkley.Dcl and Grealish instead .

      1. Weeb Kakashi
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Rich and Barkley have pens.
        Also i am short of DCL Grealish.

        1. Emiliano Sala
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 6 months ago

          Who said barkley have pens?

          1. Weeb Kakashi
            • 8 Years
            3 years, 6 months ago

            Barkley already took set pieces in his debut. He has a better penalty record than both Grealish and Watkins. I think he takes them.

    3. LegendMoon
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      like the Barkley move but not taken with rich, DCL instead and upgrade defence?

      1. Weeb Kakashi
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Rich has pens over DCL. And both have similar stats

        1. LegendMoon
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 6 months ago

          except DCL scores!!!

          1. Make United Great Again
            • 11 Years
            3 years, 6 months ago

            The most important of all

    4. Salah’s Sonnet
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Don’t like Jiminez in there, better options.

      1. Weeb Kakashi
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Jimenez has good fixtures over next 5.
        Expect him to come good.

  9. Caleb's Kitties
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Team A or B? Almost final decision on WC

    Team A
    Martinez 4.0
    TAA chilwell SAISS dallas 3.9
    Salah son grealish HAVERTZ 4.4
    Kane dcl maupay

    Team B
    ROBBO chilwell KWP dallas 3.9
    Salah son grealish RASHFORD 4.4
    Kane dcl maupay

    Thanks all!

    1. Emiliano Sala
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      A

    2. The Knights Template
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      B

    3. pratul09
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      B

  10. Pukki Party
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Final WC draft how does it look? Keeping double Liverpool def, selling Mitchell for Lewis. Have 0.9itb so can upgrade a defender, do Watkins to Antonio or upgrade Trossard.

    Martinez
    TAA Robbo Ayling
    Salah Son Pulisic Trossard
    Jimenez DCL Watkins

    Button Soucek Lewis Taylor

    1. The Wanton Trader
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      As far as double Pool defence teams go, this is a very nice team...

      1. Pukki Party
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Cheers.

  11. Bad Klopp
    • 3 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Hi lads. Last lingering doubt.

    Podence+4.1 ITB+FT or Pulisic+1.3 ITB?

    Thanks.

    1. Weeb Kakashi
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      B

    2. The Knights Template
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Latter

  12. Weeb Kakashi
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Pick one

    A Jimenez Richarlison Barkley

    B Watkins Maupay Rashford

    1. Holmes
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      B

      1. Weeb Kakashi
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Holmes, A has penalties. Would you still go B?

    2. Emiliano Sala
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Watkins rich barkley/grealish

    3. Pukki Party
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      A

    4. LegendMoon
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Watkins, Barkley, Kane

      1. LegendMoon
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        oh I see you already have him - Watkins, Barkley, Aguero?

        1. Weeb Kakashi
          • 8 Years
          3 years, 6 months ago

          Food for thought. Will think

    5. Make United Great Again
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      B - with someone other then Rashford. Do you have Grealish?

      1. Weeb Kakashi
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        No

  13. as33
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Kilman nailed?

    1. Emiliano Sala
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      No

    2. The Knights Template
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Who?

  14. Prince of Persia
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Brewster: Play or bench?

    1. LegendMoon
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Play without a doubt

    2. Emiliano Sala
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Play

    3. Prince of Persia
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Thank you guys. You changed my mind. 🙂

  15. Pukki Party
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    A) Watkins, Trossard
    B) Richarlison, ASM

    1. Weeb Kakashi
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      A

  16. Sid07
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    On wc
    1) Muapay + chilwell (3-4-3)
    2) pulisic + saiss (3-5-2)

    1. Pukki Party
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      2

  17. bso
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Play Bissouma or Mitchell?

    1. LegendMoon
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Biss

    2. zotter
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Mitchell

  18. FPL_Crisis
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Transfers done
    Kdb Wood to Kane Grealish for free
    Captain Kane
    How’s the bench order?

    Martinez
    Robbo Saiss Taylor
    Salah Son Grealish Foden
    Kane Jimenez DCL
    Steer Soucek Lamptey Mitchell

    1. The Wanton Trader
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Cracking moves...!
      Bench is fine and all looks good.

      1. FPL_Crisis
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Thanks Galza

    2. LegendMoon
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      nice transfers, Lamptey to first sub

      1. FPL_Crisis
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Cheers. Not feeling a west ham goal?

  19. zotter
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Final positions on WC

    A. Rodriguez and Soucek
    B. Grealish and Podence

    Martinez. Forster
    Dallas. Lamptey. Chilwell. Trent. Kwp
    Salah. Son. Havertz. Xxx. Xxx
    Kane. Dcl. Brewster

    1. Pukki Party
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      A

    2. chriscosta
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Easy B

  20. Dexters Laboratory
    • 3 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    RJames to 5.5 Def? (Can't afford Chil)
    A) Zouma
    B) Bellerin
    C) Reg
    Rest of Defence
    Semendo Saiss Lamptey Mitchell ___X___

    1. LegendMoon
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      How about Telles, amazing offensively

      1. pratul09
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        agree

  21. Salah’s Sonnet
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    I really wanna captain Son, or even Kane, butbis anyone thinking of doing the same maybe a tad concerned that Spurs biggest scores for these two mentioned have come AWAY from home?

    Or just overthinking it? 🙂

    1. The Wanton Trader
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      I think if I owned Kane, he would be my captain this week.

    2. Make United Great Again
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Slightly overthinking it. They’re in form. Got both and captaining Kane

    3. Salah’s Sonnet
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Cheers guys, that eases things haha. Now just to decide between Kane and Son for C!

    4. zon
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      The playing style of the opponent is more relevant, saints playing with a suicidally high line, with utd doing the same and losing balls under pressure. I think when mourinho's team has to build slow attacks against deep sitting opponent, they struggle more, even though they managed a fair amount of chances against Newcastle just failing to convert them. That said, whu have looked far more solid than newcastle with better defensive stats as well.

      1. zon
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        I have Kane, Son, Salah. Whu and Eve are both posting great defensive numbers, but Eve have a worse GK. Also I think Pool will create more chances this week. Salah is in form too. Thus, Salah (c).

      2. Salah’s Sonnet
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Although i do agreeni think Spurs are too high on confidence and playing well not to put a few past WHU.

        1. zon
          • 9 Years
          3 years, 6 months ago

          On back to back clean sheets against lei and Wolves, so are West ham. Historically this London Derby has been unpredictable and low-scoring. With no crowds though, it comes more to two in-form teams clashing. Then I like to think how they play. And whu's deep sitting three at the back doesn't suit Jose's spurs.

          1. zon
            • 9 Years
            3 years, 6 months ago

            But then again, Kane got into good positions and was very unlucky not to score vs deep sitting Newcastle. He's still a good option, but definitely Kane over Son.

  22. ⚔★Vibudh★⚔
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    A) KDB+DCL
    B) Kane+Grealish

    1. ⚔★Vibudh★⚔
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Long term I mean

    2. The Wanton Trader
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      B for now and long term I’d be looking at having all of them.

      1. Make United Great Again
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Will be hard to afford as most of us own Salah!

        1. The Wanton Trader
          • 6 Years
          3 years, 6 months ago

          I think it’s very possible.
          I’m only a couple of moves away, although I do own Sterling at present.

    3. Amey
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Kevin is a non option right now. So no point in including him atm.

      I'm possibly staying away from City now for some gw's.

  23. zotter
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Dallas or Ayling on WC?

    1. Amey
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Dallas

  24. Lecky Legs FC
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    WC team completed thoughts gents G2G?

    Ryan
    Mitchell Robbo Taylor
    Mane Mahrez Rashford Son
    Bamford Ings Richarlison

    Subs:Martinez, Bissouma & Holding

    0.1 ITB

    1. zotter
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Wtf? Start again!

      1. Weeb Kakashi
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Lol. I wouldn't be surprised if this team outscores the current template

        Still id suggest start again.

      2. Lecky Legs FC
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Just because it isn't template doesn't mean it's not going to work I'm looking at the long term fixtures too.

    2. Make United Great Again
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      No no no

    3. LegendMoon
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      you need Grealish, DCL and Kane

      1. Lecky Legs FC
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Fair enough scraps WC team back to the drawing board

  25. Wakanda
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    so is MAne back ?

    1. chriscosta
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      yes

  26. drughi
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Final WC team, any objections ? Went for the double Liverpool defence in the end. Kane>Aguero might be on the cards later on and Watkins>Antonio in 3-4 weeks. Midfield feels strong with salah and son providing explosive potential and grealish and Jrod will tick along nicely I feel with set pieces and being the creative force in their respective team.

    Mccarty(Forster)

    Robertson TAA Ayling (lamptey,douglas)
    Salah Son Grealish Jrod (soucek)
    Kane(C) DCL Watkins

    1. zotter
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      All good. Similar to mine. See below.... personally would go with Brewster as far better than any cheap mid

      1. drughi
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        cheers, not convinced by brewster yet so prefer Watkins but that could be a future move if he looks good and i decid to go 3-5-2

  27. Scotty Dog
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    One to bench,
    1)Justin
    2)Saiss
    3)Mitchel

    1. zotter
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      3. Just

  28. zotter
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Ok so how’s this WC looking??

    Martinez. Forster
    Kwp Dallas. Trent. Chilwell. Lamptey
    Soucek. Hames. Son. Salah. Havertz
    Kane. Brewster. Dcl

    Flexibility to play a few formations and decided against a 4.0 defender tbh

    1. ⚔★Vibudh★⚔
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Very good but could be benching headaches every week..

    2. Scotty Dog
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Looks good id maybe downgrade soucek to free more funds for future unless you think west ham will start doing bits

      1. LegendMoon
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        agreed downgrade to Bissouma

  29. ⚔★Vibudh★⚔
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    A) KDB to Sterling for -4, Ings to DCL next week
    B) KDB to Grealish for -4, Ings/Wilson to Kane next week
    C) Hold KDB and play Mitchell, Ings to DCL next week

    1. LegendMoon
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      A

  30. Rasping Drive
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Grealish and Soucek and bank the cash

    1. Rasping Drive
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Sorry reply fail to Zotter