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The case for a cheap FPL defence as premium assets continue to disappoint

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Fantasy Premier League managers could find value in spending as little money on defenders as possible in the coming weeks.

With Liverpool conceding for the fourth consecutive match in Gameweek 7, and the injury to Fabinho (£5.5m) exacerbating the loss of Virgil van Dijk (£6.4m), Trent Alexander Arnold (£7.4m) and Andrew Robertson’s (£7.1m) certainly offer less Fantasy value than before.

It’s not just Liverpool who are letting the premium defenders union down though. Last season’s top six have kept just seven clean sheets combined over the first six Gameweeks (Liverpool 1, Manchester City 1, Manchester United 1, Chelsea 2, Spurs 1, Arsenal 1) so justifying ownership of their expensive defenders is proving harder and harder each week.

Using some underlying statistics in the Fantasy Football Scout Premium Members Area, I want to analyse if teams with defenders at the more budget end of the spectrum (say, up to £5.0m) can possibly provide similar returns to their more expensive counterparts at the bigger clubs. 

For the purpose of this analysis, I have used data from the last four Gameweeks:

The Complete Guide to FPL Gameweek 7
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  1. kinghenry14
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    bottomed

    what to do with this lot? 2FT 0.1ITB

    martinez
    saiss dallas kwp
    salah mane son grealish trossard
    kane dcl

    forster lamptey brewster ferguson

    A) burn FT
    B) dallas -> coufal
    C) lamptey trossard -> coufal bowen
    D) trossard brewster -> bissouma bamford
    E) other

    cheers!

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    1. NABIL - FPL otai
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Trossard to Barkley. Seriously

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  2. NABIL - FPL otai
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Repost, sorry.

    Play Soucek (liv) or Dallas (LEI)?

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    1. HVT
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Leicester will score so Sou?

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      1. NABIL - FPL otai
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Yeah probably, but hate Dallas points on bench like last week, him playing last day a factor too.

        But yeah I'd hate myself more if Soucek gets any attacking return. Thanks man

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  3. as33
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Kilman or KWP to start and why?

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  4. Heisenberg W. W.
    • 3 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    McCarthy (xxx)
    Saiss-Chilwell-Mitchell (Lamptey+Bernardo)
    Son-Salah-(JRod?-Zaha?-Grealish?)
    DCL-Kane-(Bamford?)

    One needs to be benched:
    1. J Rod
    2. Zaha
    3. Grealish
    4. Banmford

    I also have 1FT and 0ITB if any other suggestions

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    1. BrooksWasHere
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Tough. Probably bench Zaha on the basis of Wolves conceding few goals, but he’s in great form so seems crazy. Jrod could also blank as Everton look a bit flat...

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      1. Heisenberg W. W.
        • 3 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        I am minded to leave J-Rod out

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    2. thegaffer82
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      You really need to sort out this front 8.

      You haven't got a stand out bench option every week. You need someone like Brewster who plays and *might* get you some points if called upon. But, it won't give you high blood pressure choosing who to bench week after week.

      As for this week, J-Rod might be out which will make the decision for you.

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      1. Heisenberg W. W.
        • 3 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        You're right in the sense that every week I'm in a similar dilemma. But then who do i move on, both CP and AV got a good run of fixtures unless i let go of Bamford

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  5. OptimusBlack
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Guaita - Forster
    Semedo- Chilwell - Reguilón
    Son - Salah - JRod- Grealish
    Kane - DCL - Maupay
    Forster ( Lampety Bissouma Dunne)
    2 FT and 0.4 itb
    Any Thoughts 🙂

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    1. Heisenberg W. W.
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Good team

      Maupay to Bamford?

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      1. OptimusBlack
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Yes maybe that's right

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  6. BrooksWasHere
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Bench 1 of:

    A) Havertz (vs BUR)
    B) Klich (vs LEI)
    C) Bamford (vs LEI)

    Not sure how it’s come to this. Leaning towards A.

    Another option is Havertz out to Bruno/ KDB/ Pulisic for a -4 hit (then play him and bench Klich)

    Cheers!

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    1. NABIL - FPL otai
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      B

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      1. BrooksWasHere
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Cheers. Klich is on pens though and can see Leeds scoring a couple... my feeling is Chelsea will struggle against an organised Burnley side as Spurs did last week

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    2. kinghenry14
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      b

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      1. BrooksWasHere
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Is it worth Havertz out for KDB for a -4? (Or for Bruno?) Tempted to leave it for next week

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  7. Jack Burton
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Why can't I see many teams with Foden in is he not a good pick at his price

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    1. Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Fixtures aren't really there for him for a few weeks. Those that have him are keeping I imagine. But if you don't have him, wait for GW10.

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      1. thegaffer82
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Yep, I'll be getting him in GW10

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    2. Bourbon, Pot Still or Islay…
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Pep is the issue. You need a defo starting worthwhile 5th midfielder if you have him

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    3. Heisenberg W. W.
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Probably due to the high risk of rotation but with Aguerro and Jesus out, defo a good pick

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    4. Flair
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      His double double figures hauls after GW10 will convince many.

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    5. Jack Burton
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Thanks all just don't know what to do with Podence

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    6. mookie
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      He's not nailed, probably not even first choice. For that price you can get nailed on set piece takers from inferior attacks.

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  8. Sid07
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Have to 2 ft
    1) saiss + lamptey to chilwell + kilman
    2) lamptey to 4.5

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  9. Do I Not Like Orange
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Antonio news really disappointing considering the fixtures. Guessing my Mitro replacement next week should be Bamford, then? Probably got about 2M to play with.

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    1. Bourbon, Pot Still or Islay…
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Yeah same issue
      I was ditching Maupay for Antonio. Not sure I fancy Bamford next few weeks really...... I just don't know anymore. Adams?
      Or Brewster (who won't score until 2021 I reckon) to release funds to upgrade Jorginho maybe

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  10. GOONER
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Any news on James Rodriguez?

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    1. thegaffer82
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      We wait with baited breath today.

      If he's out I'm moving for Grealish definitely

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  11. dbeck
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    no fires to put out, 2FT, soucek to lookman feel ok?

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    1. Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      No fires doesn't mean you can't start planning ahead. How are you gonna get MUN for 9 and MCI for 10?

      I don't like that transfer either. Soucek's fixtures are only now starting to come good after Pool.

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      1. Bourbon, Pot Still or Islay…
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Im thinking Soucek for Jorginho. Liverpool rocky in the air at the moment. Is Soucek good from set plays?

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        1. lindeg
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          jorginho off pens, so no point now

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          1. Camzy
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            3 years, 5 months ago

            This is not true. He wasn't on the pitch when Werner scored his.

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      2. dbeck
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        i was looking at Wenrer to Martial for MUN, i have sterling already and may double up with Foden, team is below Camzy, appreciate if you have any additional thoughts, 2ft 0.1 itb

        Johnstone (Button)
        Trent Saiss Dallas (KWP, Mitchell)
        Mo Sterling Son Grealish Soucek
        Werner DCL (Brewster)

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    2. Hotdogs for Tea
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Johnstone Button
      Trent Saiss KWP Mitchell Dallas
      Mo Sterling Son Grealsih Soucek
      Werner DC Brewster

      Mitchell, Johnstone/Button are smouldering
      Trent & Brewster could give you Chillwell & Bamford ?

      Johnstone & Button could be McCarthy & Meslier in rotation

      lots to consider with your team imho

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      1. dbeck
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        yeah lots to consider but i am not seeing an easy move, Johnstone i feel isnt a problem and i hate GK transfers, i'll change perhaps on my WC

        I am inclined to give trent one more week before getting rid, but if i do trent to chilwell I can do one of:

        Werner to Kane
        Brewster to Bamford/Adams
        Soucek to Foden/Bowen

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        1. Hotdogs for Tea
          • 8 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          Werner to Kane looks good

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          1. dbeck
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 6 Years
            3 years, 5 months ago

            haha i feared you'd say that

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  12. Bobby_Baggio
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Morning all. In my Draft should i swap out Podence or Trossard for:

    A) Jota
    B) JWP
    C) Millojevic

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    1. dbeck
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      i'd prob keep tbh

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  13. Kingtekkerz
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Which move would you do for free?

    A) Zaha—> Rashford
    B) Saiss—>Chilwell
    C) Taylor—>Chilwell

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    1. Bobby_Baggio
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      C - A is bonkers

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    2. Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      C and it's not close.

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    3. NABIL - FPL otai
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      C

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    4. kinghenry14
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      c all day

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    5. Heisenberg W. W.
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      C

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  14. Seamy
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Which move should I priorities?
    Maupay --> Wilson (Or other sub 7m forward)
    Saiss --> Chilwell

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    1. Bobby_Baggio
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Saiss

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    2. AC Yew
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Wouldnt get rid of Saiss!!
      Who are your other forwards and how much MITB you got?

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    3. NABIL - FPL otai
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      S to C

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    4. michaelington
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Wait and see on Saiss. We don't know enough to get rid of the top scoring FPL defender so far.

      I would go Bamford if you haven't got him already

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  15. giroudsgirlfriend
    • 3 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    For a one week punt

    Would you rather get

    Karlan Grant
    or
    Callum Robinson? 😀

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    1. NABIL - FPL otai
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Neither

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  16. Nespinha
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Guys, Opinions please

    Mccarthy
    Robbo, Saiss, KWP
    Salah, Bruno, Son, Podence, Pereira
    DCL, Werner

    4.0, Mitchell, Davis, Ferguson, 2FT 2.4ITB

    A - Pereira -> Grealish
    B - Davis + Podence + Pereira -> Adams (leader has bamford) + Grealish + Bissouma (-4)
    C) Davis + Pereira -> Brewster + Grealish
    D) Ferguson + Pereira -> Dallas + Grealish

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  17. michaelington
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Good to go? I'm going to save my FT for the first time in forever.

    Martinez
    Saiss TAA Taylor
    Salah (c) Son Rodriguez Grealish
    DCL Jimenez Ings

    Lamptey Mitchell Reed Ryan

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    1. thegaffer82
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Obviously keep your eye out on the pressers today. There's rumours that J-Rod is injured. Hopefully Ancelotti gives us a prognosis today

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    2. NABIL - FPL otai
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Gtg

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  18. RUUD!
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    What are we making of Nuno's comments, will they be unchanged this weekend?

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  19. FPL Daniel
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Sell Antonio for a hit to Bamford or play Mitchel?

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    1. The Senate
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Based on form Bamford is worth the hit over Mitchell. Go for it if you fancy it!

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      1. FPL Daniel
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        I don't fancy it, to be honest

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    2. mookie
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Will Mitchel play? He has a knock and PVA is healthy.

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    3. Big Hippo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Wait and see Antonio news first. If it is a month or longer I'd probably take the hit

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      1. FPL Daniel
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        thanks lads.

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  20. Qaiss
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    For the next 3 fixtures, would you rather own Jimenez or Werner. Werner on paper perhaps but worried about him being rested. Any thiughts?

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    1. Klaren
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Jimenez. I don't think the next 3 fits Werner's style and as you said, there is chance of him being rested or getting limited minutes in either of the next two.

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    2. BrooksWasHere
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Personally Werner - I transferred Jimmy out this week. He got a couple of quite lucky goals in the last two, in games where Wolves created v. little. I’ve hated owning him. He’s gone. Werner more explosive, higher ceiling etc. Chelsea could click any time.

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  21. The Senate
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Hoping for a less horrendous GW.
    (A) Podence to HBarnes
    (B) sell someone else
    (C) bank FT

    1FT 1.5ITB
    Ramsdale
    Chilwell Semedo Justin
    Salah Rashford Son Grealish Podence
    Kane DCL
    (Brewster KWP Mitchell)

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    1. The Senate
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      A could also be Mount

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    2. Big Hippo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      C bank it imo

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  22. AC Yew
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    If money was no object what would the perfect defence look like?

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    1. Rocky FPL
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Chillwell, Cresswell, Semedo, KWP, Robertson

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      1. OverTinker
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        what has Semedo done so far?? I have him but I don't like him much.

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    2. Big Hippo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Right now probably TAA/Roberston, Chilwell and Cresswell (from next week).

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    3. Miguel Sanchez
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Robertson Chilwell Dias

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    4. The Senate
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      It would start with Liverpool being able to defend this season - then you’d get TAA Robbo and one of AWB/Chilwell/Reguilon/Cancelo

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    5. Flair
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Robertson Chillwell Dias Cresswell Kilman

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  23. Rocky FPL
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    A) TAA, Jimenez to Cresswell, Kane (Dont have Liverpool defense)
    B) Mane, Jimenez to Rashford, Kane (Have Salah)

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    1. Bunk Moreland
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      I like A.

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  24. Klaren
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    From FFS tweets: Nuno Espirito Santo: "Unfortunately, we always have issues. Issues from the previous games, even from the international break, players that are still recovering from some knocks and some problems.

    This surely refers to Podence? He's been the one getting all the knocks in the previous few games. Was there anyone else who got a knock that I'm not remembering?

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    1. thegaffer82
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      I wasn't aware he had any kind of knock?

      I think he's just the go-to player for Nuno to bring off around 60-70mins

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      1. Klaren
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        He did against Leeds and Newcastle, but then ended up continuing the match. I don't know if the substitutions had anything to do with those though, probably not.

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  25. Big Hippo
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Welcome to my team Jack Grealish & Ben Chilwell.

    Thank you for your services Kai Havertz & Reece James.

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  26. Atimis
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    How would you use 2FTs? Maupay to Bamford?

    Also waiting for any Hamez news

    Martinez
    Robo/Reguilon/Chilwell
    Salah/Son/Grealish/Hamez
    Kane/DCL/Maupay

    Martin/Lamptey/Mitchell/Stephens

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    1. Big Hippo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Nice team that. I'd probably make the Maupay move. Wait and see Antonio news first maybe

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      1. Atimis
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Yeah, true that

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  27. Bunk Moreland
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    I need a 4,5 defender. I already have KWP, Mitchell and Dallas. Who is a good pick? I’m considering Kilman or Masuaku, but I don’t feel confident in them starting.

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    1. Big Hippo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Coufal

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    2. abhirup780
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      coufal

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    3. Bunk Moreland
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Thanks guys! Good choice. I thought he was 5.0 for some reason, probably mixed him up with Cash. I’ll go Coufal !

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  28. FPL AXE
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    What was the "FFS members badge" thing about in the email from them yesterday?

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  29. Nightf0x
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Gomez or lamptey out for chilwel ?
    Or
    Roll ft & do it next gw

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    1. Big Hippo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Depends what your defence looks like this week. If starting Lamptey I'd probably move him for Chilwell

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      1. Nightf0x
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Gomez sais kilman (lampty struijk)

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  30. HVT
    • 13 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Long term

    A - ZaHa
    B - Grealish

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    1. Karan14
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Grealish

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    2. La Roja
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Zaha

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    3. mookie
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      I'm getting Grealish today, haven't even considered Zaha.

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    4. Klopp's Kids
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Grealish long-term

      but Zaha if you have Barkley

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    5. NABIL - FPL otai
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Grealish and Barkley for me

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