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Should Fantasy managers ever ‘triple up’ on a team?

The 2014/15 FPL champion, Simon March, asks if owning three players from the same Premier League club is advisable.


Fantasy Premier League has seen plenty of iconic duos: Carroll and Barton, Drogba and Lampard, Vardy and Mahrez, the list goes on. These are players who, while playing in the same team, both managed to score substantial points and frequently combined to score those points by assisting each other’s goals. If you had both in your FPL team at their peak, chances are you were doing well. Everyone loves a good double-up.

But what about triple-ups? They’re popular, too, but is it really a good idea to select three players from the same team? That’s the question I’ll be discussing this week.

Among the few firm rules that I rigidly observe in FPL is this: ‘Never triple up on a team who are likely to finish mid-table or below’. I learned this lesson in the 2015/16 season when my title defence was upended early on by my now-curious decision to Wildcard in three Swansea players (though, in my defence, this was a popular move at the time) just before they went from surprise early-season title candidates to winning just two games in their next 17. In my opinion, mid-to-lower table teams will rarely, if ever, sustain the form required to justify owning three (non-bench fodder) players or, indeed, they would not be mid-to-lower table teams.

While I’m unlikely to be talked out of this position personally, the question of whether tripling-up on any team is a good idea is more controversial.

On one hand, you have the philosophy that, if a team tends to score more goals than anybody else, and/or keeps more clean sheets, as per Liverpool or Manchester City in the past few seasons, it’s a good idea to have as many players from that team as possible. There is no doubt that, at times, this is a good move and, those who do time it correctly will no doubt profit as a result. Where such a team has a Double Gameweek, there’s even more reason to believe in the potential of a triple-up.

There are, however, a few problems associated with tripling up with players from the top teams. Firstly, it tends to be expensive. Man City may, for example, score more goals than most teams this season and they might also keep more clean sheets, but to triple up on them could cost 25-30%+ of your overall budget. At that point, the question is no longer just: ‘Will they score me enough points?’ It becomes: ‘Will the rest of my team be good enough to compensate if they don’t?’ There’s usually a good chance that a savvy FPL manager can find similar returns for less if they shop around.

The big exception to all of this is when a team who were expected to be mid-to-lower table end up performing really well throughout the whole season. The most obvious example of this phenomenon is 2015/16 title-winners Leicester from which you could purchase three of the highest-scoring players in the game that season for roughly the price of a McDonald’s Happy Meal. Of course, such teams are most notable by their rarity.

Why else could tripling up be ill-advised? One suggestion lies in the mechanics of how scoring occurs in football generally. A player scoring is always the product of their own ability to score, their team’s ability to provide them with opportunities to score and their opposition’s ability (or inability) to stop them from scoring. However, there is also a temporal aspect to this equation. A match only has 90 minutes (or sometimes 100 minutes if you’re a certain Manchester-based club…) and, thus, your triple-ups are sharing that time between them. They cannot all score points at once even if two combine for a goal and, therefore, their ability to score is naturally limited. This might not be a problem if the team they play for scores loads of goals every match, but history tells us that this is not sustainable over time, even for the very best teams. Players and teams go in and out of form, fixtures become more difficult and, when you triple up, all three of your players are affected by these same conditions.

This issue may be less true of defenders as clean sheet points are attributed equally across a defensive line. However, as a result of this, their point-scoring potential is interdependent, one goal conceded affects them all. Over a long enough period of time, this might not matter in terms of points scored (i.e. Liverpool defenders may keep the most clean sheets in total over a season) but, again, this raises the question of value for money and, particularly, whether the funds tied up in expensive defenders could benefit your team more if invested elsewhere, or by being more liquid.

How Liverpool's defensive assets compare after their FPL price changes

Finally, while some believe that having multiple players from a single team means they are likely to get some points whatever happens, the opposite could actually be true. Because they share many of the same conditions, teammates may be more prone to rotation at the same time (e.g. ahead of a big Champions League match), illness (think Spurs and ‘Lasagna-Gate’), expected or unexpected match cancellations (…sigh), tough fixtures or even just teams losing form, as even the best ones will sometimes do. Tripling up will always compound these kinds of risks.

In conclusion, while I am not personally a big fan of tripling up on players from a single team, I can see that there are instances when it can pay off, if timed correctly. There are also exceptional circumstances where it can be a practically essential, no-brainer, value move (e.g. Leicester 15/16) to have three players from the same team. Tripling up in a Double Gameweek or Blank Gameweek may also be well worthwhile and, finally, some of the limitations that apply to attacking players in a triple-up may not apply as much to defenders, making a defensive double or triple-up arguably more of a viable move. 

However, by virtue of the players all sharing the same conditions and constraints on scoring and the typically high cost of tripling up on the best teams, the practice of tripling up in FPL will almost always be a higher-risk strategy that, as a result, is less likely to pay off over time than a broader and more flexible strategy.

In my eyes triple-ups are a lot like buying an expensive goalkeeper; it makes sense at the time, they’ll probably score you some points, but give it a few weeks and you’ll always start to think whether you could be doing something better with the money.


Simon is a former FPL world champion, claiming the coveted price in 2014/15. But there is more to this man than one season of good fortune. Since 2009, Simon has finished in the top 7k four times, only ending up outside the world’s top 60k once in an 11-campaign career.

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  1. nolard
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    Am I GTG people?

    Mendy
    Lamptey Chilwell KWP Bellerin
    KDB (c) Salah Hamez Anguissa
    Vardy Bamford

    no free transfers

    1. PascalCygan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      For sure. Very strong. Good luck!

      1. nolard
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 4 months ago

        Thanks!

  2. sufcben
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    Mccarthy
    Lamptey - Chilwell - Justin - KWP
    Son - Salah - Sterling
    DCL - Kane - Bamford

    Nyland Mitchell Stephens - Grealish

    1ft 0.1itb

    A. Sterling - Mahrez (c)
    B. Save ft
    C Other ?

    1. sufcben
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      D. Sterling + Son - Kdb + mahrez -4

    2. Bad Kompany
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Son to mahrez or save ft imo

  3. andres
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    Ok, cancelo needs to go...

    A mendy
    B james (che double up with chilwell)

    1. Bad Kompany
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      B. You’ll have the same problem with Mendy as you have with cancelo

    2. fridge
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      A basically the same as Cancelo...

    3. Bandwagondude
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      None of them are 100% nailed

    4. Phil's Stamps
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      B

  4. Bad Kompany
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    Thoughts? A bit lost here. 2 ft and 1.8 itb.

    Martinez Button
    Chilwell Cancelo Cresswell Lamptey Taylor
    KDB Bruno Ziyech Grealish Gordon
    Werner Bamford Watkins

    Only have 10 players and that includes Taylor playing against Everton and Cancelo who might not play. I don’t want to lose Martinez because later he’ll have 2 extra fixtures. I have had varied success rotating gk but am thinking of trying it again. I don’t want to lose grealish. I’ve considered losing Watkins but don’t like any other forwards better. I’m worried about cancelo but I’m not convinced that James and Dias are nailed either.

    The options I’ve come up with so far are:
    A. Button to meslier/Ryan/McCarthy/johnstone
    B. Cancelo to James/Dias/someone else
    C. Martinez cancelo Watkins to meslier cooper gabriel Jesus
    D. Ziyech to mahrez

    1. PascalCygan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      I’m in a similar situation and doing Steer and Grealish to McCarthy and Mahrez for -4

      So between A and C in those options

      1. Bad Kompany
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 4 months ago

        Cheers! C is similar to what you are doing. There’s no way I’m losing grealish. He’s been sensational this season.

        Why are you going McCarthy over the other gks? Does he rotate with Martinez better?

        1. PascalCygan
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 6 Years
          3 years, 4 months ago

          I only bought Grealish for 7.5, selling for 7.6 and it looks like he’ll be back to 7.6 so I can buy him back. Understand why others are keeping.

          McCarthy and Johnstone both rotate nicely with Martinez. I’m having to decide between those two. Who are you leaning towards?

  5. Henning
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    Already on -4 anything worth another hit?

    Martinez
    Lamptey Chilwell Vestergaard Justin
    Son KDB Fernandes Zaha
    Vardy Bamford

    Steer Coufal Wilson Grealish

    1. Bad Kompany
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      No. You’re gtg

  6. Better luck next year
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    Best GK up to 4.6?

  7. Nightf0x
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    Bottomed

    With 9.0, pick 1 gk & 1 def.

    A) mesiler - mcarthy - johnstone
    B) dallas/alioski/cooper - clyne/dann - taylor - masuku/balbuena - furlong/bartley - fuchs

  8. lordkippe
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    Want to ditch Cancelo. Best defender with max price 5.7 ?

  9. beetlejuice
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    Guys kwp or lamptey?
    I like kwp fixtures but lamptey better attacking potential imo . Which one ?

    1. Bad Kompany
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Lamptey. Both defenses have done very well in their easy fixtures but lamptey is more attacking

  10. Danno - Emre Canada
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    Sterling to KDB worth a sideways investment for the long term and forget about the differential? Or Son to Mahrez? Or neither?

  11. SEXY SOLO SAUCE
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    SCENES tomorrow when Pep trolls us all and plays Sterling up top with Mahrez and Foden either side

    1. Brosstan
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      You havent sold Sterling then? 😉

      1. SEXY SOLO SAUCE
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 4 months ago

        No, don’t think I will

  12. golden skulltula 69
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    Hi everyone!

    Best 4.5-4.6 defender?
    A. Dallas
    B. Ayling
    C. Coufal
    D. KWP
    E. Targett
    F. Taylor

    Cheers!

    1. fridge
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      D looks good!

      1. fridge
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 4 months ago

        I think A

        1. golden skulltula 69
          • 8 Years
          3 years, 4 months ago

          Thank you!

    2. AF90
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      You've pretty much listed them in order of best to worst I think

      1. golden skulltula 69
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 4 months ago

        Yes, it seems! 🙂

    3. Macca71
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      After Chelsea(a) tomorrow, Leeds have 4 good fixtures out of next 5. I’d go A

      1. golden skulltula 69
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 4 months ago

        Thank you!

  13. fridge
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    GTG?

    McCarthy
    Chilwell. Lamptey. Taylor
    Mahrez (c) Son. Bruno. Jota
    Kane. DCL. Vardy

    4.0. McCarthy. Dallas.4.0

  14. Shark Team
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    Jota benched in 1 of the next 3 hopefully

  15. HD7
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    Have KDB as C, stay with him or consider Vardy and Bruno?

    1. AF90
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Stick

  16. how now brown cow
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    Is getting mahrez this week just giving yourself a problem next week?

    1. Dele
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Yep! This is why I’m avoiding

    2. Thunderbahçe
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Yes, and the fact that he doesn't haul big two games in a row

  17. Whats the Mata?
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    A. Get Mahrez in for Ziyech this gw and captain him with Mahrez + Son to Jota + Salah (C) for a hit next gw

    Or

    B. Just get Jota in this week and captain KDB or Bruno and get Salah in for free next gw

    1. Luton_Fan
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      B

    2. Macca71
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      B. Never like taking a hit, and you have KDB to captain (which isn’t a bad option!)

  18. Dele
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    G2G?

    Martinez
    Chilwell, James, Lamptey
    KDB(c), Salah, Jota, Son, Bruno
    DCL, Bamford

    Peacock, Brewster, Ayling, Dunne

    1. Hutchiniho
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Boom

  19. AF90
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    Would you do Martinez -> McCarthy for free? Or just play with 10 & save the FT?

    1. FPL Blow-In
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      I’m playing with 8 I think. I’d hold.

    2. Dele
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Ply with 10

  20. FPL Blow-In
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    Bournemouth, Norwich, Watford and Reading in the top 4 of the championship currently. Would anyone like to see any of these back from an fpl perspective?

  21. TMERC187
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    Thoughts on this WC? I managed to get the Holy Trinity and Werner with a double Chelsea backline:

    Fabs (Walton)
    James - Chilwell - KWP (Alioski) (Targett)
    Bruno - Salah - KDB - Neto (Burke)
    Werner - Bamford - Adams

    Too many choices who to (C)...

    1. Hutchiniho
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      For December - looks good

  22. Hutchiniho
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    Jota or Bamford?

    Jota for real or just the latest vogue?

    1. TMERC187
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Jota is adding a much needed rotation to the front 3. I see him eventually taking Firmino's place. Bamford will get his chances most every match. Jota is quality and Bamford is quantity...

  23. Jebiga
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    Am i stupid to keep Steling and Cancelo for this GW ?

    1. Hutchiniho
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Not vs Ful

    2. The Knights Template
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Only if they don't play. Then you'll look very foolish for owning them.

  24. Shark Team
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    Anyone feeling good about captaining KDB? Loving the fact that he has 22% ownership

    1. The Knights Template
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Yes

  25. Whats the Mata?
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    People thinking of replacing Martinez for a hit -

    Villa play a goal shy Wolves, Burnley, WestBrom and Palace in the next 4 post the blank.

    Plus we could have the news over the double doubles for Villa soon.

    1. Bad Kompany
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      It makes no sense to me to replace him. I’m considering getting another gk to rotate with him. None stand out though so I’m unsure

  26. fridge
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    If you still have wildcard is there a gameweek people think is the best to play it?

    1. Iceball
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      If you still have it you might wait until DGW news around gw 14-15

      1. fridge
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 4 months ago

        Thanks

  27. Iceball
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    What sounds better?
    A) Sterling to KDB
    B) Ziyech to Mahrez(C)
    Next week Sterling to Salah(C) if B but then KDB has to wait. Salah has to wait or cost a hit if A

    1. JJeyy
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      b

    2. The Knights Template
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      B

  28. Lord Flashheart
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    A Grealish to mahrez (c) for free, bring Grealish in two weeks back
    B ziyech to mahrez (c) for free, play Coufal (MUN)
    C save transfer

    1. Ozzy smith
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Same conundrum here. I can bring Mahrez in for Grealish, Son or Jota for free. Or save the FT. Hard to ignore Mahrez now after those latest Pep comments. What are you leaning towards?

      1. Lord Flashheart
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 4 months ago

        I thought A so I can enjoy ziyech rather than Coufal, will have to bring Grealish back in a week or two of course, but it’s the cost of having a stronger team no?

        1. Ozzy smith
          • 9 Years
          3 years, 4 months ago

          Sure, looks the better move. I'm feeling the same. I mean, it's going to make me take a hit next week for Salah so it would effectively be a -4 move for me. Also got Grealish in at 7.0.

    2. The Knights Template
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      B

  29. fantasy
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    Any thoughts on Walker or Chilwell for December?

    1. The Knights Template
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Walker a nice differential

  30. PascalCygan
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    Dullard alert: Last minute thinking of getting Johnstone instead of McCarthy for Steer because the extra 0.1 can allow me to upgrade Struijk to Dallas next week.

    Both rotate well with Martinez, but West Brom have a nice run of fixtures when Villas’s turn 16 onwards.

    1. Bad Kompany
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      I’ve been comparing gks using legomane spreadsheet and got it down to the same 2 as you. I trust Southampton’s defense much more but Johnstone is more likely to haul and I slightly prefer his fixtures

      1. PascalCygan
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 4 months ago

        Interesting, thanks. Agree with all that. Saints clearly a better team but that extra 0.1 could be really useful - KWP or Dallas instead of 4.4 or lower.

        And there’s a fair chance Johnstone could haul - he’ll be busy. Tough one!