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Fantasy Football Scout voted as ‘best editorial’ at Football Content Awards 2020

Fantasy Football Scout has been voted as the ‘best editorial’ in Fantasy Football for 2020.

That’s according to the Football Content Awards who revealed the results at a virtual ceremony on Tuesday, December 8.

The competition in our category was fierce with Athletic columnist FPL General, Premier Injuries’ Ben Dinnery, Fantasy Football Fix and Fantasy Football Hub.

Delighted Fantasy Football Scout editor David Munday said: “It is a great honour to receive this award.

“FFS is dedicated to providing high-quality, industry-leading content for Fantasy managers worldwide and it is wonderful to see that recognised by the football community.

“I would like to thank our incredible roster of contributors who regularly submit insightful articles as well as my hard-working deputy editor Neale Rigg. I strongly believe his Kanté-esque graft in midfield is the secret to our success.

“And, of course, full credit goes out to our readers and members who make all of this possible with their unerring support to FFS.”

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  1. Catastrophe
    • 13 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    Chances that Son & Bednarek rise tonight? on 97.5% and 96.7%.

    Cheers

    1. IRBOX ⚽
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      The Son generally rises in the morning

      1. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 4 months ago

        Many fathers rising in the morning too

    2. Zimo
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      High

  2. The Polymath
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    Chilwell to James.. Is this a big downgrade or worth doing?

    1. Dynamic Duos
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      We all need both imo

    2. Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Would not do that one. Ideally, both.

      1. camarozz
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 4 months ago

        Camzy u asked me a question on last page. I'm 0.1m short of the Neto-Salah move that's why it has to be Jota

        1. Camzy
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          3 years, 4 months ago

          You're not short. You can buy Davis instead of Brewster...

          1. camarozz
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            3 years, 4 months ago

            True.
            Would ya?

  3. Dynamic Duos
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    How is this guys, am I G2G?

    Ederson
    Chilwell James Targett
    Salah(c) KDB Bruno Grealish Jota
    Bamford(vc) DCL

    Forster Brewster Neco Coufal

    Bottomed

    1. WVA
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Incredible team

      1. Dynamic Duos
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 4 months ago

        Cheers mate

    2. Salah’s Sonnet
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Can’t fault that to be fair, same first 11 but my Son to your Grealish, Targett to my Dallas, and Martinez to your Ederson 🙂

      1. Dynamic Duos
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 4 months ago

        Cheers mate, your team sounds class to. I'm looking to go Ederson, DCL and Grealish to Lloris, Son and Watkins by 15.

        1. Salah’s Sonnet
          • 12 Years
          3 years, 4 months ago

          welcome bud, really hoping to push on now, at my rank that should not be hard lol, steady climb. Those moves sound good also

    3. Snooze ya lose
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Peachy

      1. Dynamic Duos
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 4 months ago

        Cheers mate

    4. Steve The Spud
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      This team will absolutely crush mine!

      1. Dynamic Duos
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 4 months ago

        Thanks , hope you still smash it mate

    5. IRBOX ⚽
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Solid

      1. Dynamic Duos
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 4 months ago

        Cheers mate

  4. WVA
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    What's worse?

    A. Danny Mills commentary
    B. Dortmund's ability to keep the ball
    C. Moukoko

    1. GreennRed
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Jim White

  5. Ógie
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    Damien Duff slaughtering Paul Pogba on Irish TV panel. 🙂

    1. GreennRed
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Polar opposites. Duffer would run until he dropped. Pogba will do it when the mood takes him.

      1. Ógie
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 4 months ago

        Agreed

        Duff was a great pro who may not have had the natural ability that Paul has but had the heart of a lion to make up the difference.

        1. camarozz
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          3 years, 4 months ago

          Siad Pogba would get knocked out in his day 🙂

  6. Botman and Robben
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    1FT. 0.8ITB

    A. Upgrade Coufal/Kilman
    B. Adams-> Wilson/Watkins
    C. Roll FT

    Martinez
    Chilwell Dallas Coufal
    KDB Bruno Salah Son
    Bamford Adams DCL

    Steer Bissouma Lamptey Kilman

    1. Snooze ya lose
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Wilson

    2. Dynamic Duos
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Watkins

    3. GreennRed
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Why ar you sellng Adams? Will still do well with Ings back.

      1. Botman and Robben
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 4 months ago

        Would you roll the FT?

        1. GreennRed
          • 12 Years
          3 years, 4 months ago

          I would and I'm surprised to say that because Adams is doing much better than I thought he could do.

  7. Snooze ya lose
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    Kdb to salah? Seems so wrong! Bit otherwise I’d have to hit and drop Kane

    1. GreennRed
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Or have 2/3 of them.

    2. JBG
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Do it... Kane will probably ruin Palace.

  8. TKC07
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    Pogba essential for GW12? After he's given rest from the most important (CL) match this season?

    1. Baps hunter
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      😉

    2. Zimo
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      😆

    3. Paqueta Rice
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Gw12 of next seasons La Liga fantasy?

  9. Gameweek 11 Rough with the Smooth
    Geoff
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    How was your Gameweek?

    Were any of your players benched? Did you get any injuries? How did your bench perform? Did your captain return?

    Tell us your tales of joy and woe from Gameweek 11, here:

    1. Paqueta Rice
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Week 10 Vardy (c) Bruno (vc)
      Week 11 Bruno (c) Vardy (vc)

      Modest 60 points from 8 players

    2. Botman and Robben
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Rough: My entire defense scored 4 points.
      Smooth: 81(-4) green arrow to a decent 145k OR

    3. The Knights Template
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      A humble tale of joy with 94pts. Soucek contribution most welcome.

    4. Ron_Swanson
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      81 with 2 Villa players and only 1 point off the bench

    5. Ógie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      I've had better,I've had worse i guess.

      Ended up with 69 points which if you offered me at the start of the game week i would have snapped your hand off for. Considering i had 2 Villa that i had move to the bench and took a chance on banking a transfer i cant complain too much with how it turned out for me.

      No flags either thanks be to God.

    6. Badluck Jonathan
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Smooth: Lack of Grealish/Lewis forced me to play Neco Williams (5) and Soucek (8). Also brought in James (5) for a free transfer and saved my other ft.

      ROUGH: Sold Cancelo (6)

      OUTCOME: Modest green arrow from 213k to 170k

    7. The FPL Units
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Smooth: 82 points from 9 players and a welcomed Soukec surprise.

      Rough: used 2FT for Robbo Son to James (K)dB. About even points return but would have C Bruno and now a want to get one of Robbo or Son back.

      1. The FPL Units
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 4 months ago

        600k OR increase to the lofty heights of 3.1m

    8. Rossendale Rover
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Rough. Furlong Rough.
      Took a minus 12 to get rid of Cancello, Foden, Nyland and Mitchell who are all either dead, dying or part of a lottery every Gameweek. Team was short of players because of the Villa cancellation too.

      So, I brought In
      Johnstone for Nyland (scout picks - thanks) who got zero. Fail.
      Foden to Jota. Jota started on bench. Fail.
      Mitchell to Dallas. Positive. 1 point.

      But my finest acheivement was a punt on Furlong for West Brom who incidentally has some great numbers. But this weekend he hit the bar, got an assist, but the scored an own goal and conceded 5 goals. 1 point. Fail.

      And Barnes didn't play.

      I fell 1 million places. 1 Million. I even checked to see if I was below Az. That is the company I keep these days.

    9. shirtless
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      After last weeks 44 pointer this week a mega 89! Third GW in the last four with a circa 200k GW rank at 208k moving up from 2.1m to 439k in that time still with my wildcard and not taken a (-4) yet either...

      Smooth; Held on to Sterling paired up with KdB(c). Brought in Bamford having finally got rid of Mitrovic. Fernandes, Kane, Soucek, DCL, Walker-Peters all returning points.

      Rough; Sterling didn’t actually do me any favours over two fixtures vs keeping Salah or Son!

    10. lugs
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Rough,
      an absolute disaster FH where i somehow managed to score 20 something points less than my team from last week if i had done nothing, despite the original team having, Martinez, Grealish, Torres, Rashford, Bruno, as non starters or not playing at all, more than doubling my rank in the process, 400k out to almost 900k

      Smooth
      at least i get original team back this week, thank god 🙂

    11. waltzingmatildas
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Smooth
      Managed my 4th green arrow in a row - 3.9mil 5 gws ago, 1.1mil now.

    12. A.J.
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Pretty smooth all in all. My only player to blank was my sub in for Grealish.

      86 points with no keeper. Very happy.

    13. Osfezt
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Best GW so far this season. Took out Martinez and Manè for McCarthy and KdB (c) for a hit. Had Sterling, Son, Bruno, Bamford, DCL, Zouma and Cancelo who also delivered. 94 points and went 2.2 to 1.2 million in OR all in all.

    14. Groot the Leveller
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Smooth despite 2 villa players, so 10 only playing.
      82 points, 4th green arrow in a row, and 600k gain.
      Still got a long way to go to clear all the dead teams ahead of me 🙂

    15. jia you
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Rough:
      I had 6 no shows due to Villa lads, getting Peped (Walker & Foden), and a non-playing fodder...add to that 3 x 1 pointers giving me 9 duds for the GW.
      Smooth:
      My remained 6 players got 73 points between them!
      Just goes to show the power of captaincy and the big hitters that you own doing the business on a given GW!

    16. seewhyaxe
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Possibly the roughest rough:

      Steer (0) + Son (13) out for -4

      for

      Johnstone (0) + Mahrez (C) (8)

      This transfer alone caused me 9 points alone. If I didn't get Mahrez in, I would have captained Bruno (12) instead which would net me another 6 points, so total of 15 pts.

      GW rank of almost 6million 51(-4) where almost everyone else had either KDB, Kane, Salah or Son. I had none.

    17. Dreams
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      63 points. Captaining Bruno over kdb and salah did not turn out too well. Bamford and Cancelo returns were good. Benched two Villa players and tried to navigate through the week but could have been better. Jota 1 point was also bad. Need to do better next week.

    18. Santigold
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Smooth: Finally a successful captaincy with KDB and a good GW with 84 points.
      Rough: Still managed to lose in the head-to-head league by one point. Also, my transfer was Soucek->Mahrez. Did not think that would go wrong. 😀

    19. corderz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Soucek > Mahrez(C) wasn't my finest move

    20. 2999 - Lady of Legend
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Smooth-Saturday! A rare win on the pep roulette and jump of 1m places.

      Rough-Sunday! All the highly owned assets I don't own haul and I lose the 1m places from the day before. 🙁

    21. sambyy
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Smooth: 78 points after the hit. KDB(C), Sterling, Cancelo starting. Transfers were Rashford to Salah and Maupay to Adams for -4.

      Rough: seems like everyone else had a good week too so only went from 3.7M to 3.2M. Rough season...

  10. Dynamic Duos
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    Chelsea have some serious squad depth

    1. Steve The Spud
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Yeah, they have a great team, be a big fail from Lampard if they don’t get in the top 3 IMO

  11. Slitherene
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    Bench which 2?

    A) Justin (BHA)
    B) Lascelles (WBA)
    C) Lamptey (lei)
    D) Taylor (ars)
    E) Ayling (WHU)

    1. Parsnips
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      D C

  12. Shark Team
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    Remember in the start of the season wondering if Alli is better value than Son?
    Now Alli has 2 PTS and Son has 100 PTS

    1. IRBOX ⚽
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Amazing

    2. Steve The Spud
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      I remember it well, mainly because I went for Ali, one of the many reasons this season has been a horror show

      1. camarozz
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 4 months ago

        Lol me too. Then I got Son. Then I sold him. Used to be good at this game.

    3. A.J.
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Had him for GW1. Turned out a masterstroke as I went hastily to Hamez for his nice run.

  13. dicky2014
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    Sky Sports News clearly gutted nothing of note happened at the Millwall game.

  14. IRBOX ⚽
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    GTG?

    Martinez
    TAA Chilwell Justin
    Salah KDB Bruno Grealish
    DCL Bamford Watkins

    Forster Lamptey Bissouma Kilman

    1. Dynamic Duos
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Top team

    2. Dynamic Duos
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Love the TAA pick , getting ahead of the crowd

      1. IRBOX ⚽
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 4 months ago

        Yep I think people are burying their heads in the sand with him a bit trying to get too many heavy hitters. He doesn’t just suddenly drop from being a 200 point season defender to not being the most essential defender in the game. 7.2 for a Liverpool mid on set pieces, yes please!

        1. Dynamic Duos
          • 10 Years
          3 years, 4 months ago

          Yeah I'm going to have to fit him in very soon, he is a big hitter, but will his minutes be managed abit after only just coming back from injury ?

  15. dunas_dog
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    Assuming no injuries mid week is this team strong enough in front 3 going forward?

    Martinez
    James Dias Chilwell
    Salah (c) KDB Bruno Son Jota
    Bamford Watkins

    Forster Lamptey Brewster Mitchell

    1. Dynamic Duos
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Top team

      1. dunas_dog
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 4 months ago

        Thanks
        🙂

  16. Bagheri Arce
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    Hey, anyone know when half season membership is available from? Xmas present for my old boy and I'm being a cheap bar steward 🙂

    1. Steve The Spud
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Don’t spend to much on him mate

  17. Legohair
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    KDB to Salah good move for free?

    1. FPL_Motty
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      No

    2. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Yes

    3. Steve The Spud
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      I think so, much higher ceiling

    4. Jack Burton
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Doing it for this week then back again

  18. Steve The Spud
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    Just going to ask this again

    Is it worth taking a -4 to get someone like Semado out for James ?

    As it is Semado isn’t even starting in my team, just got a -2 and is also 5.5m

    1. Dynamic Duos
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Yeah do this

      1. Steve The Spud
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 4 months ago

        It’s got to be a reasonable move hasn’t it ?

        1. Dynamic Duos
          • 10 Years
          3 years, 4 months ago

          I think so yeah , upgrade imo

    2. MoSalalalalalalalalah
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      James will be very fruitful in the long run, so yes

  19. martyhan
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    A. Ziyech to jota
    Or
    B. Ziyech and chilwell to Son and Konsa -4

    1. Dynamic Duos
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      A

  20. MoSalalalalalalalalah
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    Pascal Gross a good alternative?

    1. Dynamic Duos
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Look really good yesterday and on pens, very decent pick, yeah nice differential

      1. MoSalalalalalalalalah
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 4 months ago

        Would you have him or Podence? Probably not going to go ahead with this decision, just not sure what to do with my 2 FTs

        1. Dynamic Duos
          • 10 Years
          3 years, 4 months ago

          Gross

    2. Steve The Spud
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Always looks a decent player

  21. jdp219
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    Ziyech > Salah(c) will be done, but requires a hit.

    1) DCL > Brewster (-4)
    2) Vardy > Watkins (-4)
    3) Vardy > Welbeck (-4)
    3) Vardy > Wilson (-4)

    Other forward is Bamford.

    1. MoSalalalalalalalalah
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Watkins

    2. Dynamic Duos
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      1

    3. Paqueta Rice
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      3

      1. Paqueta Rice
        • 3 Years
        3 years, 4 months ago

        Wilson

        1. jdp219
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 4 months ago

          Oops. But thanks for the clarification. 🙂

    4. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      2

    5. The Train Driver
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      2

  22. Steve The Spud
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    Start konsa away at wolves or cresswell away at Leeds ?

    1. The Train Driver
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Think both will concede so Cresswell since he has more chance of an attacking return.

  23. The Train Driver
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    Bruno owners worried? Playing today and in the Manchester derby probably, will surely get rested in the SHU game?

    1. Dynamic Duos
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      He is good long term so take the benching and look forward if so

    2. IRBOX ⚽
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Ole learnt his lesson.. United can’t operate without him

    3. Baps hunter
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Let us see this match first 🙂

    4. Iwantmorepointsthanks
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      No, won't captain him anyway.
      Cameo at SHU could still get points, and if no minutes he'd have enough rest for more points in later gameweeks 🙂

    5. Gobigorgohome
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      yes will likely benched again for she

  24. have you seen cyan
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    Just going through my FPL bookmark folder and thought i'd share a few links here which are useful incase anyone doesnt know about them.
    If im honest I havent used many of these for a long time so cant say how good all of them are, or if they are all free anymore (i think most if not all are). And as I said havent used them for ages, inputting your team id or league id's is fine, but I strongly advise never entering your actual fpl log in details into any site which wants to analyse your team, for obvious security reasons.

    Having briefly looked at them just now, some look like they have some pretty cool features, you should check them out:

    https://www.anewpla.net/fpl/report/index.php (analyse your team)
    https://www.premierfantasytools.com/ (team analysis and live ranks)
    http://www.fplstatistics.co.uk/ (price changes)
    https://fpldiscovery.wordpress.com/ (dont know what this does)
    https://fantasyfootballfirst.co.uk/stats/ (adviser stats, and tables)
    https://www.fpl.guru/team (points predictions)
    https://www.fplgameweek.com (analyses your leagues)

    1. MoSalalalalalalalalah
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Very helpful, thank you!

      1. have you seen cyan
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 4 months ago

        yw, there was about another 5, which seem to have stopped working.
        I also suggest joining reddit and checking out the unofficial fpl sub reddit, thats a every good source of stats, history and team news etc. Reddit is possibly the best FPL source of news imo

        1. MoSalalalalalalalalah
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 4 months ago

          Great, will look into it

  25. MoSalalalalalalalalah
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    Cancelo still starting?

  26. Ógie
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    Great finish 🙁

  27. MoSalalalalalalalalah
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    Welp, Man U falling apart already

  28. Paqueta Rice
    • 3 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    Uh oh

    1. Paqueta Rice
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      I can’t believe how tight the defence was there. Playing with a back 5 basically using wing backs and nobody picking up Angelino.

  29. It’s gonna Ben Mee
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    An Angelino sent from Manchester City

  30. Steve The Spud
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    United we abysmal against West Ham in the first half, if they don’t show up they could get destroyed by city