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We’re back for another stab at Fantasy5 – the game that gives you the chance to win £10,000 for free.

All you have to do is pick one player from each of five nominated fixtures for the upcoming Gameweek. If all of your selections score more points than their respective Fantasy5 ‘points targets’, then you win.

And that looks even more achievable in Gameweek 17, with some points targets appearing more generous than ever – a single goal for Patrick Bamford away at Spurs, for example, would see him over his threshold of 5.5.

Fantasy5 is easy to play as it follows the exact same scoring system as FPL, just without the bonus points.

It’s also the fastest media outlet for live Fantasy points, displaying all player points from the five games in question, as well as the live score and time.

For the more detailed lowdown, head here.

The competition is limited to one entry per person per round and selections must be submitted before kick-off of the first eligible match.

If two or more entrants correctly select five players who all score more than their points target, then the prize pot is split among all winners.

For a full list of the terms and conditions, click here.

GAMEWEEK 17 FIXTURES

The five matches in this round of fixtures are:

  • Tottenham Hotspur v Leeds United
  • Brighton and Hove Albion v Wolverhampton Wanderers
  • West Bromwich Albion v Arsenal
  • Newcastle United v Leicester City
  • Southampton v Liverpool

The deadline is at 12:30 GMT on Tuesday 2 January.

SCOUT’S GAMEWEEK 17 PICKS

  • Patrick Bamford (5.5): As we mentioned earlier in this piece, this looks to be a very achievable points target for the Leeds United striker given that he has 15 attacking returns in 16 matches this season. It’s away from home where he has particularly shone, with 59 of his 99 FPL points coming on the road. While a trip to Spurs is a tough test on paper, all it takes is for one goal to fly in – and given that he has had more shots in the box than any other Premier League player this season, he’ll surely have a chance or two in north London.
  • Daniel Podence (5.5): Rested at Old Trafford in Gameweek 16, a fresh Podence will be expected to regain his place against Brighton this weekend. Top among Wolves assets for shots in the box this season, the fact that his target total is a whole point less than teammate Pedro Neto leads us to plump for Podence. A clean sheet and an assist would even do, should he fail to find the target.
  • Pablo Mari (5.5): With Gabriel still sidelined, the left-footed Pablo Mari will hope to retain his place at the heart of the Gunners’ defence this weekend. While his defensive colleagues have a points target of 6.5 and will need attacking returns to pass the threshold, Mari simply needs a shut-out against an attack who have carved out fewer big chances – by quite some distance – than any other Premier League team this season.
  • James Maddison (6.5): Providing Brendan Rodgers passes him fit, Maddison is our selection for Leicester’s trip to Newcastle. The dead-ball specialist will be up against a Magpies side who historically have shipped a lot of chances from set plays, while Maddison himself ranks joint-second among all FPL assets for key passes over the last four Gameweeks. A single goal would be enough to see him to seven points, too, of course.
  • Alex McCarthy (2.5): Not the most glamourous of picks, McCarthy has picked up a clean sheet and/or a save point in 13 of the last 14 Gameweeks. Providing Liverpool don’t run riot at St Mary’s, the Southampton stopper looks a good bet to accrue three points or more.

TED TALKS FPL’S GAMEWEEK 17 PICKS

  • Hugo Lloris (6.5): Spurs’ defensive nature means they’ll allow Leeds some chances to shoot, albeit speculatively – I’m hoping this will give Lloris some save opportunities in addition to a clean sheet, both needed to surpass the 6.5 points target.
  • Pedro Neto (6.5): Hopefully a goal is on the cards for the lively Neto against Brighton, who have conceded the fifth-highest number of goals this season. Neto is joint-sixth for goal attempts in the last four Gameweeks amongst midfielders.
  • Kieran Tierney (6.5): Tierney is fourth for number of crosses and joint-third for chances created in the last six Gameweeks amongst defenders. I’m hoping for a clean sheet and an assist against a lacklustre West Brom side.
  • Callum Wilson (5.5): Wilson’s target looks very achievable against Leicester this weekend. He only needs a goal for this pick to be a success and the Foxes have conceded on three occasions in their last two games. Wilson being on penalties is another string to his bow.
  • Alex McCarthy (2.5): I’m expecting Liverpool to beat Southampton but not by a landslide. If Southampton can limit Liverpool to a maximum of three goals, I’ll feel comfortable that the Reds will have tested McCarthy enough for him to earn a couple of save points and take him to the three required.

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498 Comments Post a Comment
  1. Bounce
    • 3 Years
    3 years, 3 months ago

    Imagine paying £11.7 for the 25th best player (total points scored)

    13, 2, 2, 0, 1, 6, 3, 2, 10, 14, 3, 4, 5, 3

    1. Rupert The Horse
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 3 months ago

      Don’t need to.

    2. Scholes Out For Summer
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 3 months ago

      Would you be surprised if KDB and City started to rip it up though?

    3. RAFA THE GAFFA
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 3 months ago

      If you keep saying it you might not fear him anymore 🙂

  2. RAFA THE GAFFA
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 3 months ago

    Got 2FTs and they need to be used before FH18, BB19.

    A. Johnstone+Taylor >> Martinez+Lowton
    B. Taylor >> Stones and burn one.
    C. Taylor+DCL >> Cancello+Antonio/Watkins

    McCarthy
    Robbo, Dias, Coufal
    Salah, KDB, Bruno, Raphinha
    DCL, Bamford, Adams
    (Johnstone, Dallas, Soucek, C.Taylor*)

    1. Scholes Out For Summer
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 3 months ago

      I like A

      Wouldnt sell DCL before west ham

      1. RAFA THE GAFFA
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 3 months ago

        Is Martinez and McCarthy too much?

    2. Bounce
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 3 months ago

      I'm in the same position as you with 2FT, FH18, BB19 and I have 12/15 of your players.

    3. Pat Bonner
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 3 months ago

      B for me

    4. Bounce
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 3 months ago

      I've considered using the 2FT on MUN/MCI/AVL/BUR players and then going into GW18 with 7-8 and saving the FT... is a FT worth 3 players?

      1. RAFA THE GAFFA
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 3 months ago

        By FT do you mean FH?

      2. RAFA THE GAFFA
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 3 months ago

        I have 4 GW18 players though. And 1 is injured. Imagine 1 other gets rested and I’ve basically missed a whole GW. I’m using mine

        1. Bounce
          • 3 Years
          3 years, 3 months ago

          What about Raphinha & DCL > El Ghazi this week and then GW18 Johnstone > Martinez?

          You're not losing any DGW19 players and gaining and extra 3 players for GW18.

          If Taylor is fit it gives you 7 players. Is a FH worth an extra 3 players?

          1. Bounce
            • 3 Years
            3 years, 3 months ago

            Sorry

            GW17: Raphinha & DCL > El Ghazi & Watkins
            GW18: Johnstone > Martinez

            1. RAFA THE GAFFA
              • 8 Years
              3 years, 3 months ago

              So I’d have 6? That’s still 5 missing and the chance of someone being benched too. Can’t see Taylor making it

          2. RAFA THE GAFFA
            • 8 Years
            3 years, 3 months ago

            El Ghazi and who?

  3. Scholes Out For Summer
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 3 months ago

    which would you prefer in DGW19:

    A) Ings + Stones (-4)
    B) DCL + Dias

    1. It’s gonna Ben Mee
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 3 months ago

      B

    2. JoeSoap
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 3 months ago

      B

  4. TeddiPonza
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    3 years, 3 months ago

    What to do with this? The plan is to save the chips (maybe TC in 19). 0,4m in bank and 1 FT.

    Martinez (Steer)
    Dias Mitchell KWP (CTaylor Lamptey)
    Salah Bruno Grealish Son Saka
    Kane DCL (Watkins)

    A. Lamptey to Lowton/Coufal
    B. CTaylor to Lowton/Coufal
    C. Son to Rashford
    D Something else
    E. Safe

    1. George Agdgdgwngo
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 3 months ago

      Keep son?

      1. TeddiPonza
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 3 months ago

        That’s my thought, but will change to Rash before dgw

    2. Scholes Out For Summer
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 3 months ago

      Taylor/Lamptey to Coufal seems straight forward

  5. Top Lad Dakes.
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 3 months ago

    Hmmmm.... 11am deadline (for me) tomorrow.

    Will I be up and alive by then? Questionable

    1. LewanGOALski
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 3 months ago

      No lockdown for your country for NYE?

      1. Top Lad Dakes.
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 3 months ago

        No sir - little Caribbean island, have had no community transmission cases since June/July, and have been living normally since early August. A nice break from being at uni in the UK!

        1. Rupert The Horse
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 3 months ago

          Oh nice.

      2. Rupert The Horse
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 3 months ago

        Big country.

        1. Rupert The Horse
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 3 months ago

          Little country you ignorant idiot.

      3. GreennRed
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 3 months ago

        You don't need to head out to have a good time 😉

    2. It’s gonna Ben Mee
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 3 months ago

      Definitely think I should get my team in order now 😆

    3. Rupert The Horse
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 3 months ago

      NYC?

  6. LewanGOALski
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 3 months ago

    Which for the DGW19:

    A) Fabianski + Robertson + Son + 4 pts
    or
    B) Johnstone + Dias + KDB (-4 pts)
    ..?

  7. Joey Tribbiani
    • 3 Years
    3 years, 3 months ago

    fantasy5 is hard, most ive gotten is 3/5

  8. Rupert The Horse
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 3 months ago

    Tara Reid is utterly hideous.

    1. KAALI_DAAL
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 3 months ago

      Do you mean Taraji?

      1. Rupert The Horse
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 3 months ago

        What is that? Sounds Indian.

    2. GreennRed
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 3 months ago

      She's in the sacred 10K too?

      1. Rupert The Horse
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 3 months ago

        I’m missing these references by a mile.

    3. Right In The Stanchion
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 3 months ago

      You still couldn’t get her though

  9. Master Frieza
    • 3 Years
    3 years, 3 months ago

    need replacements for Brewster and Matip to used BB on DGW 19.. Any suggestions?

    1. Neves say Neves
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 3 months ago

      Stones for Matip could be a good shout. Don't think there are any options better than Brewster at his price point however

      1. Master Frieza
        • 3 Years
        3 years, 3 months ago

        Was thinking that but one can never tell with Pep's rotation.. Stones may only play one game

        1. Neves say Neves
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 3 months ago

          who else are you considering then

          1. Master Frieza
            • 3 Years
            3 years, 3 months ago

            Another option was keeping Brewster and replacing Matip with Creswell.... but i am also thinking Balbuena for Matip and one of McGoldrick, Benteke, or maybe even Fabio Silva at home to West Brom

  10. Neves say Neves
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 3 months ago

    Who is the best Taylor replacement at 4.6?

    McCarthy Johnstone
    Robbo Dias Dallas Coufal Taylor
    Salah Bruno Rashford Raphinha Soucek
    Vardy Bamford Adams
    0FT 0.1 ITB

    FH next week so 1FT between now and DGW19
    Any other thoughts are welcome!

    1. Andy Mac
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 3 months ago

      Same dilemma. Only 4.5 here though. I think it boils down to - Targett, Lowton or Pieters. Based on your team I would go Targett personally.

      1. Neves say Neves
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 3 months ago

        Yeah I was looking at the same 3. Will probably go for Targett as I really like the look of villa's defensive stats and most of my ML have Martinez so some villa cover will be nice. Thanks for the reply!

    2. Thewonderfulgame
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 3 months ago

      Salah to KDB

  11. KAALI_DAAL
    • 3 Years
    3 years, 3 months ago

    McCarthy and Johnstone for DGW BB sound okay?

    1. Traction Engine Foot
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 3 months ago

      Yeah

    2. RamaJama
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 3 months ago

      If you have the chance to get an extra dgw player somewhere else on the pitch, I would prioritize that above getting Johnstone

      1. Rupert The Horse
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 3 months ago

        Yeah agreed

  12. Steirish
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 3 months ago

    Is rob holding a starter for arsenal?

    1. Bobby Digital
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 3 months ago

      Sure

  13. xHaTr
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 3 months ago

    Start Two:

    A: Dias (Chelsea away)

    B: Coufal (Everton away)

    C: Dallas (Spurs away)

    1. RamaJama
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 3 months ago

      AC

    2. Pep's Money Laundry
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 3 months ago

      I got all 3 and I've parked coufal on my bench

    3. Andy Mac
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 3 months ago

      I’m on A and C myself

  14. RamaJama
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 3 months ago

    How many hits is sensible to take to field as many as possible dgw players for BB GW 19?

    1. Scholes Out For Summer
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 3 months ago

      one or two imo

    2. Pat Bonner
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 3 months ago

      I might need a -12 now which is probably excessive so might leave the BB to later in season. I’d be happier with a -8

  15. thepancakeman123
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 3 months ago

    Do we reckon City actually keep any clean sheets vs Palace and Villa? They're notoriously poor vs Palace and Villa have a good attack.

  16. Andy Mac
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 3 months ago

    Any Burnley aficionados out there. Would you chose pieters or lowton to replace Taylor? Cheers!

  17. Vasshin
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 3 months ago

    I was thinking of using FH in Week18 but with City,Villa,United,Burnley game scheduled in week18. I am rethinking about using FH as there could be more postponement later on and could be used later as well

    I have these players with 2FT and 1.9 itb

    McCarthy(0,2) Martinez(1,2)
    Justin (0,2) Robbo (0,2) TAA (0,2) Mitchell(1,1) Coufal(0,2)
    Salah (0,2) Fernandez(1,2) Son (1,1) Grealish(1,2) Soucek (0,2)
    Adams (0,2) DCA (1,1) Davis (1,2)

    Right now I have 5 players playing in week18. Mitchell started last game but I could not count him as a starter, similarly Davis played few minutes last game but cannot count him as a starter

    So should I use FH or just use Free transfers and play with 8 players.
    So what should I do and who should I bring this week?

    1. Scholes Out For Summer
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 3 months ago

      if using FT, you have to bring in City or United players as they playin both

    2. RamaJama
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 3 months ago

      Would rather spend the 2 FTs on players for the dgw 19 and FH Bgw 18

  18. ⚔★Vibudh★⚔
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 3 months ago

    Would you use FH in 18 if you can field this without any hits?
    Cancelo, Maguire, Dias, Fernandes, Grealish, Son,DCL and Riedewald(1-pointer mostly)

    1. Traction Engine Foot
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 3 months ago

      I'd probably save the FH

    2. GreennRed
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 3 months ago

      No.

    3. korbendallas82
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 3 months ago

      Save fh. There will probably come some more surprises down the line, were you might be in worse shape.

  19. RAFA THE GAFFA
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 3 months ago

    Best 3 defenders outside of the Pool lads for the double?

    1. xHaTr
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 3 months ago

      Dias Coufal Dallas

      1. GreennRed
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 3 months ago

        + Chilwell and Justin.

      2. sandman58
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 3 months ago

        Surely Cancelo better than Dias??
        More chance of bonus and attacking returns

        1. Saka Punch
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 3 months ago

          Rumoured to have Covid so not sure if he'll be back in time? (owner here)

          1. sandman58
            • 5 Years
            3 years, 3 months ago

            Oh...didn't know this
            Thanks
            Will probably go Mina then as already have Stones and plan to lose Mina/Cancelo after next 2 to buy Robertson for the double

      3. SAKA AND EMILE SMITH ROWE
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 3 months ago

        These 3 for sure

    2. Top Lad Dakes.
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 3 months ago

      Leeds and Hammers up there. Got Coufal Dallas myself

    3. It’s gonna Ben Mee
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 3 months ago

      Cancelo Dias Stones

  20. Traction Engine Foot
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 3 months ago

    Is it worth holding James and Taylor in the hope they both play in 19?

    1. Andy Mac
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 3 months ago

      I’m wondering same re: Taylor. Have a feeling he won’t be ready though...

    2. xHaTr
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 3 months ago

      Taylor double in 19 really isnt great. Not sure I'd be wanting to start him

  21. Top Lad Dakes.
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 3 months ago

    If you brought in Lowton / Pieters (can’t decide which but would like Pieters), would you play him ahead of Dallas(tot) this week?

    Robbo and Coufal the other starting defenders

    1. Scholes Out For Summer
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 3 months ago

      Fulham game could still be cancelled tho

      1. Top Lad Dakes.
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 3 months ago

        Oh could it?! Right then...

        1. Scholes Out For Summer
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          3 years, 3 months ago

          well i mean we dont know yet right? just saying its possible

        2. FPL Theorist
          • 4 Years
          3 years, 3 months ago

          If you want to bring him in anyway for the long term, then just do it and Dallas will come off your bench if it's cancelled.

  22. Sho-kun
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 3 months ago

    DCL & Trossard --> Martial & Martinelli

    what do you think?

  23. JoeSoap
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 3 months ago

    Beat option for DGW?

    A. DCL/Mitchell>Vardy/Stones
    B. Son/Mitchell>KDB & Cancelo/Diaz
    C. Other (3.8 to play with)

    Unlikely to BB at this stage (too many transfers/uncertainty)

    McCarthy
    Zouma, Justin, Dallas
    Fernandes, Grealish, Son, Salah
    Bamford, DCL, Adams
    Steer, Coufal, Mitchell, Mendy

  24. George Agdgdgwngo
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 3 months ago

    Who scores more?

    A. -4 Rashford - (villa (h), Burnley (a), Liverpool (a), Fulham (a), sheff Utd (h)

    B. Son - Leeds (h), villa (a), sheff Utd (a), Liverpool (h)

  25. sandman58
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 3 months ago

    Who's the best most nailed City defender??

    1. Rupert The Horse
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 3 months ago

      Dias and Stones probably.

    2. Andy Mac
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 3 months ago

      Dias

    3. George Agdgdgwngo
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 3 months ago

      Dias

  26. More Cowbell
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 3 months ago

    Play one:
    a) Nathaniel Phillips (sou)
    b) Che Adams (LIV)

    I suppose kind of what I'm asking is: what is the most likely outcome out of: a liverpool cs or a che adams goal

    1. It’s gonna Ben Mee
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 3 months ago

      A

  27. squ1rrel
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 3 months ago

    Bottomed, how do I use my FT here?

    WCd in 16, with the intent of FH 18, BB 19.

    McCarthy - Johnstone
    Robbo - TAA - Bednarek - James - Balbuena
    Salah - Fernandes - Son - Rapinha - Soucek
    Abraham - Bamford - Adams

    1 FT, 0.6 ITB

    1. Don Kloppeone
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 3 months ago

      James > MCI defender

  28. Whazza
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 3 months ago

    Just seen Stones 5 CS in his last 5... The game he missed (WBA) they conceded... Transfer set in stone now! 😀

    1. Don Kloppeone
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 3 months ago

      I would like to get him double up with Dias but can’t see how as it means being 0.4 short of Soucek as my 5th mid on BB in 19!

  29. Don Kloppeone
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 3 months ago

    As with everyone I’m totally confused. Unsure whether to just stick to my guns or change tack completely.

    Original plan was:
    GW17: Branthwaite > Lowton (FT)
    GW18: FH (as would only have 5 + Dale Stephens)
    GW19: Forster, Stephens > Meslier, Soucek (-4) and play BB

    1FT 0.2itb
    Martinez, Forster*
    Robbo, Dias, Coufal, KWP, Branthwaite*
    Salah, Bruno, Son, Raphinha, Stephens*
    Kane, Bamford, Adams

    Is this still a good plan or am I mad to only proceed with Dias and Bruno from their respective teams?

    Cheers!

    1. Scholes Out For Summer
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 3 months ago

      I wouldnt get Lowton, it's a low potential transfer as they play United and Liverpool in 2 of their 3 games. Alioski could be a better option as at least he ahs potential for offensive returns

      1. Don Kloppeone
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 3 months ago

        So you think Alioski, Johnstone better than Lowton, Meslier?

  30. Blzbobuk
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 3 months ago

    Pulled trigger on transfer as saw Taylor was likely to drop and I have 0 in bank - Just spotted it was the villa Taylor! Schoolboy error given all the News but probably would have made same move anyway.

    1. Andy Mac
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 3 months ago

      Who did you replace with out of interest? I’m debating who to get to replace him too. Only got 4.5m. Cheers!

      1. Blzbobuk
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 3 months ago

        I went for Alioski as I don’t have Dallas and can’t afford. He is quite attacking (so better than ayling currently) and Koch is still out for a while. Did look at balbuena but didn’t want to lock myself out of Antonio. Burnley replacements are less good than Taylor and Fulham fixture is a doubt.

    2. GreennRed
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 3 months ago

      Good move. I sold him for Dallas. No definite news on hamstring so could miss a good few games. He'll drop fairly soon anyways, not long since was 4.4.