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Why I reject the ‘stats vs eye test’ debate when making FPL decisions

Three-time top 5k finisher Seb Wassell reveals his thoughts as Fantasy Premier League managers prepare for a busy run-in to the 2020/21 season.


‘Us vs. Them’, ‘Yorkshire vs. Lancashire’, ‘Stats vs The Eye Test’. Timeless, tribal debates that see passionate supporters and detractors on both sides. But one of these is not like the others. 

Here I will make the case for ‘Stats vs. The Eye Test’ being a false dichotomy and why, at this time of Double Gameweeks, Wildcards and crunch decision-making, anyone that finds themselves exclusively on one side or the other – or even believes there are sides to this debate in the first place – is never going to achieve the Fantasy Premier League success we all crave.

Eye of the Beholder

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We are instinctively inclined to believe our own eyes over almost all other information. This is a primal bias that is extremely difficult to identify let alone overcome. Seeing is believing after all.

When it comes to football, many believe there is no substitute for watching matches. Football is meant to be experienced, it is meant to be enjoyed, those rare moments of complete brilliance, total anguish and overwhelming joy are what it is all about. If you do not watch football, you do not get football, and this goes doubly for the Fantasy game, right? Stats fly in the face of that. They often reduce our favourite moments to “luck” and describe impossible feats as “variance”. How can you “expect” a goal? Can you quantify “desire”? Frankly, they are all work and no play.

However, there is often a large disparity between what we see and what is empirically true. For a non-football example, take “the dress”. For those unaware, a photograph of a dress was posted on social media in 2015 that for millions appeared quite clearly to be white and gold. However, an equally large and convinced group of people were adamant it was black and blue. I will avoid spoiling it here if you have not already experienced it, but needless-to-say it was confirmed to be only one of these colour combinations, with the other theorised to be a result of presentation, our own personal perceptions, previous experiences with lighting and existing expectations.

In this same way, what we see on a football pitch can be misleading, incomplete and sometimes even harm our ability to make the best decisions. And yet, some of the best fantasy managers proudly consume huge amounts of football each week.

Numbers Don’t Lie

Blank and Double Gameweek audition for Man United and Aston Villa

By contrast, a growing number of the football community, and more specifically the Fantasy Premier League community, are becoming literate in stats. Contrary to the belief of some, the world of football statistics was not dreamt up by anti-football, calculus-wielding mathematicians. Quite the opposite in fact. 

I like to imagine that Expected Goals (xG) was the result of a late night, post-match argument over whether a striker “should have scored”, as is so often the commentary rhetoric. Two people that see the same event can differ on its interpretation. Stats allow us to lend objectivity to this argument. 

In the case of xG, we can reference any single shot against a huge backlog of similar shots and conclude with a good degree of reliability how often that particular opportunity results in a goal. So “should have scored” becomes “50% of the time, that is a goal”. This does not mean that a 50% chance that was missed in the last match will be scored in the next, the probabilities are independent to one another, but it does start to give us a useful quantitative tool to describe how likely a unique event is to result in a certain outcome. 

Rather than being separate or contradictory to the eye test, stats are there to help us process what we are seeing and, crucially, allow us to begin to predict future events. FPL is a game of predictions and the more tools we have at our disposal to do this accurately, the better we will be for it.

However, stats can also mislead us. Knowing that a team had 33% possession and three shots in a match sounds disastrous, but if we also know that this team scored two very early goals against stronger opposition and then determined to sit deep, soak up pressure and attempt to see the match out – meaning their possession and shot numbers were intentionally culled – we begin to understand the context of those numbers. 

Often, we see a player praised for a huge number of completed passes, but if none of those passes progressed the ball up the pitch, is that as impressive? Just as with the eye test, we need to know what to pay attention to and what to disregard, how to view stats within their context and how to act on them without bias.

An Evidence Based Approach

The truth is that both stats and the eye test are attempting to describe the same thing: a football match. This is the scientific method, where we observe, analyse and then draw evidence-based conclusions. Whilst they may appear in competition with one another, there are no statisticians worth their spreadsheets nor football fans worth their season tickets that do not understand one through the prism of the other. 

No successful football club will sign a player without having watched them play, but the way they identify which players to watch are by trawling the stats of thousands first. 

Stats are to football what air travel is to transportation: wanting to get from A to B but better than before. They are a natural evolution of watching and analysing football, born from the desire to quantify what is happening on a football pitch in a more comprehensive, objective, memorable and comparable fashion. Stats do not compete with the eye test, they are simply the eye test presented as objective, reliable data. 

It is extremely difficult to remember every action a single player took during a 90-minute match, let alone what the other 21 did. Expand this then to a full season and the eye test alone cannot possibly hope to give you what you need. A shot on target is a shot on target whether I watch it happen and assign it to memory or read about it later in the Premium Members’ Area. The difference is that there is only so much I can do with that memory, and memories get distorted (see the Mandela Effect, where a large group of people independently remember an event to have occurred differently to how it actually occurred, or even remember something that never happened in the first place). Stats allow us to preserve this information and use it without distortion later.

This is not to say that stats are perfect, they are a work in progress. Some of them are still frustratingly reliant on human input, such as ‘big chances’, which is manually judged by a human at Opta rather than being the result of a chance exceeding a specific xG value. 

Promising Raphinha can exploit Digne absence as Leeds visit Everton

If we know this though, we can use it to our advantage. We can combine stats and the watching of matches to give us the fullest picture possible, correct to the weight we personally place in one action over another.

The majority of stats focus on defined, finite actions, whereas a favourite of Fantasy managers is thinking “what if”. For example, xG only records shots taken. A player through on goal that does not pull the trigger before the ball is smothered by the goalkeeper is not recorded as a shot and so has no xG. However, we know that this was in fact a very good opportunity to score. Combine both these pieces of information and you have an edge.

Ultimately, it is evidence that we are looking for. Evidence free of bias most importantly. The eye test is wide open to biases – confirmation bias, recency bias, the availability heuristic, being reliant on Match of the Day showing you everything you need to know in 10 minutes as opposed to selecting your own samples – but then so are stats, we have all scrolled through tables looking for that magic number that backs up the transfer we wanted to make anyway. The key is knowing how and when to use each tool we have at our disposal. The best fantasy managers can identify essential information and act upon it, but they will always use multiple methods for this.

Consider a scenario borrowed from Neil deGrasse Tyson: You are walking your dog, it zig-zags side-to-side on the lead, but overall moves forwards in the direction you are walking it. While the zigs and zags are hard to predict, the general direction of movement is not. “Lucky” managers may catch some of the zigs and zags, “skilful” managers know it is the overall picture we need. 

Both methods of analysis can fall prey to this, we may put too much emphasis on the events we see live or prioritise only recent data. It is sensible interpretation with given context that allows us to operate with skill rather than luck. 

Bear in mind also that information is only as good as the source it is from. Naturally, we want to identify trends as soon as possible, but realistically this is only reliable over the course of months, if not years, of matches. This is where some of those intangibles mentioned earlier may creep into our thinking, trying to explain what is in fact simply variance.

My favourite recent example of the two methods not being two separate methods at all but in fact dovetailing beautifully is Tottenham. Spurs’ early season results were excellent, both from a fantasy and real-life perspective, yet they now languish in ninth place. Could we have predicted this? Can we identify what might happen in the future?

We know that, for example, Son Heung-min (£9.5m) is a traditionally excellent finisher and thrives on the counter. We can see this when watching him and it is backed up by the stats. We also know that he receives a disproportionately high number of big chances, something else that is evidenced by both our eyes and the numbers. 

Naturally, big chances have a higher conversion rate than small chances. Early in the season, Spurs were performing well above their xG and Son was benefitting handsomely. There were a number of factors involved in this, from luck to style of play. 

Under Jose Mourinho, Tottenham had a tendency to attack early in a match, looking to secure a lead and then defend it from there. Due to this and the opposition they were facing, a number of these chances came on breaks into space. With Son drifting centrally from the left and Harry Kane (£11.1m) dropping off to supply him, we saw the forward presented with plenty of opportunities to convert the types of chances that suit him perfectly. As the season has progressed however, this has diminished, both through the absence of opportunity and a regression to their mean xG. They could not continue to score with their first (and sometimes only) few shots of a match against opposition that knew this was coming, we know this both instinctively and through historical data, nor did they adapt in a way that attempted to combat that. It is in this way that we could both understand what was happening with Spurs and predict how likely it was to continue. Similarly, with many now turning to Harry Kane again ahead of gameweek 26, we see both stats tables and tactical shifts being referenced as strong evidence for selecting him. I will leave that debate to our other Pro Pundits though!

Whether you prefer to consume your football in the stands or on a spreadsheet, we are all trying to do the same thing; understand what is happening, analyse why it is happening and predict what might happen in the future. For anyone that believes there is only one way to do this, I urge you to reconsider. What you are really doing is shutting yourself off from half of the information you need in order to make successful Fantasy Premier League decisions. And if you believe the eye test is the best way to judge football, I humbly suggest that you are effectively trying to get from A to B on horseback whilst everyone else has a plane ticket. Eventually, every event on a football pitch may be fully covered by stats. For now, however, we need both. Follow those stats to confirm what your eyes are seeing but keep watching matches to ensure you have context and, most importantly of all, to keep football and Fantasy Premier League fun.

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426 Comments Post a Comment
  1. Kodap
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Played my TC this week, only chip I have left is now my Wild-card, when would be the best time to use it?

    1. Epic Fail
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Depends if you want to use it to correct your GW29 team or to help with your GW29 team.

    2. tbos83
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Prob the fixture swing around gw32 - set up nicely for the final stretch

      1. drughi
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        this

      2. Kodap
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Delightful, thanks for the help guys.

      3. Botman and Robben
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        +1

    3. Holmes
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Delay as long as possible. Probably in 31 when you will want to offload Villa and Leeds players. Maybe WHM players and Son as well.

  2. Christina.
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Wow, where are all these 9's and 10's popping out from this
    morning!
    x

    1. DGW blindness is for Kinnea…
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      What you mean?

      1. The Knights Template
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Exactly.

      2. Christina.
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        posters with long histories popping in to say his this morning

        1. DGW blindness is for Kinnea…
          • 10 Years
          3 years, 1 month ago

          Nirvana must be down 😆

          1. Christina.
            • 14 Years
            3 years, 1 month ago

            not at all. They are discussing tw@t of the year award...

            1. DGW blindness is for Kinnea…
              • 10 Years
              3 years, 1 month ago

              Bit soon for that. Totally dead on here. Only fun is baiting posters. I might pop in for old times sake

    2. Botman and Robben
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      What are 9's and 10's?

      1. Epic Fail
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        The women I sleep with.

        1. Christina.
          • 14 Years
          3 years, 1 month ago

          have you tried a 6 and a 9?
          At the same time.

          1. Epic Fail
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            3 years, 1 month ago

            Are you offering? xx

      2. Christina.
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        shhh...you are a 4
        😉

    3. RoysCallerAnne
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Was going to post something insightful but then saw you were here.
      *logs off
      ** regards, five time top 6k finisher who uses eyeballs, not stats

    4. manu4life99
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Hello there

    5. ⭐ ABHISHEK - THE CURIOUS …
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Hello

    6. DGW blindness is for Kinnea…
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Is it 2014 again?

    7. Ginkapo FPL
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Bigger question, where have all the kids gone and how do we lock the door?

    8. S.Kuqi
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Hi potato

    9. HippY
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      The basement

    10. fclackless [Brazil Nuts]
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      The above article has flushed them out ... prime bait.

  3. Says
    • 13 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    FYI this article about eye test vs stats is really well written and interesting

    1. AC/DC AFC
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      I found it lost its way towards the end.

      No big point, other than look at the right stats and watch games for the fullest picture.

      1. Fred54
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        I think it started off by saying its silly to be totally stats v totally eye test which is fine.

        I'm generally more stats based because I don't get to watch much football. But I saw the entire WBA v Brighton game and that game defied all the stats.

        My point is football can be so random even with eye test and stats you can be wrong, just have to have more victories than losses for overall win. Don't beat yourself up as long as there was some logic in decision.

    2. tbos83
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Agreed. I like it when the articles delve a bit deeper into the psychology of it all.

    3. Ginkapo FPL
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Yorkshire is fundamentally better than Lancashire though.

      1. Rotation's Alter Ego
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Don't even need stats, eye test alone is enough to show how wrong you are 🌹

        1. La Roja
          • 12 Years
          3 years, 1 month ago

          Oh, flower emoji. How did u do it haha

          1. Amey
            • 5 Years
            3 years, 1 month ago

            Mod specific emojis 😆

  4. AC/DC AFC
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    684,000 triple captain chips played this week.

    Top 3:

    Kane 239,000.
    Fernandes 135,000.
    Son 72,000.

    A fair few on Salah and DCL too.

    Along with half a million BB's too.

    1. DGW blindness is for Kinnea…
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Averages will be through the roof

      1. Holmes
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Only if they do something 😛

        1. @persecuted_by_mods
            3 years, 1 month ago

            He was talking about average meltdowns we see here on FFS

            1. DGW blindness is for Kinnea…
              • 10 Years
              3 years, 1 month ago

              😆

      2. Amey
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        How many teams played chips this GW ?
        Would be helpful to know actual count of Active teams ...

      3. Gross Blank Point
        • 3 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        KDB here. Any numbers for him?

    2. Steve The Spud
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      What to do with rashford? Would like to ship but for who? Only 0.2itb, team for next gw

      Areola
      Cancello holding konsa
      Bruno rash sterling gundo souceck
      Dcl kane

      Flapp. Bamford, coufal Maguire

      1. Holmes
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Bench him for Bamford?

        Or you can add Raphinha in advance

      2. The Knights Template
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Gw29 player

        1. Steve The Spud
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 4 Years
          3 years, 1 month ago

          Only one in that bracket is son or dare I say it bale, maybe he shows something over this dgw

      3. pingissimus
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Bale surely 🙂

        Fixtures say no but Lingard is on fire and 15 points from Spurs City after all and has 29 bonus

    3. Salarrivederci
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Important day for my BB squad. Gonna show if hits were a good or bad decision!

      Areola, Lookman, Pereira, Barnes, Kane, AWB, Bruno and Salah (C)

      1. tbos83
        • 3 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Similar for me - and same cap. Go well comrade.

      2. Holmes
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Oh, too many players, nice

      3. Mr. O'Connell
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Wow. I literally have Bruno, Salah and Kane today (and I want Kane to blank). I need to go for an 8 hour walk or something.

    4. DGW blindness is for Kinnea…
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      On a separate note the EL is shaping up nicely. The QFs will have exciting games. Reminds of the UEFA Cup from the 90's where there were good teams in there and some prestige to the trophy.

      1. AC/DC AFC
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        I just wish it was 2 legged knockout format like the UEFA cup was.

        I'd watch it more. Loads of good teams and TV money counts.

    5. Kodap
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Second question of the morning, I want to start looking at bringing KDB back into the squad, currently have this squad and 3.1m in the bank.. Would my best move this week be to do Pope > Sanchez? Then next week I can potentially take a -4 to bring in KDB again.

      Martinez
      Stones - Dias - Shaw
      Bruno - Gundo - Salah - Raphina
      DCL - Kane - Bamford

      Bench: Pope - Dier - Soucek - Coufal

    6. tbos83
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Permit me to be serious for a moment but I've had a pretty stressful pandemic (my wife is a respiratory doctor and we have two young kids) and I've found FPL to be such a source of escapism. Really enjoyed becoming part of the community here. Right, back to the banter...

      1. CrouchDown
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Nice 🙂

      2. Christina.
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Stay strong. My wife(also a doctor) had her vaccine last Sunday.

        1. tbos83
          • 3 Years
          3 years, 1 month ago

          Pleased to hear. The vaccine has def brought some peace of mind, and seems the hospital numbers going in the right direction. Stay strong yourself.

      3. waltzingmatildas
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Glad you've found something to take your mind off the craziness

      4. Amey
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Take care & enjoy !

    7. CrouchDown
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Will Martinez play the next game?

      1. Over Midwicket
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Doubt it.

      2. Epic Fail
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Probably.

      3. el polako
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        I'm sure Dean Smith will give us very clear explanation...

        ...not.

      4. jammie26
        • 3 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        What's wrong with Martinez?

        1. Epic Fail
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          3 years, 1 month ago

          Took pain killers during the game. Though he must have took crack because I don't know any pain killers that work instantly.

          1. SEXY SOLO SAUCE
            • 7 Years
            3 years, 1 month ago

            Amazing

      5. michaelington
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        If it wasn't bad enough to come off I think he'll play

    8. el polako
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Atleast with glorious weather outside I can go for a long walk without phone this afternoon and just check Spurs - Burnley score when I get back.

      As someone without Kane and\or Son want to avoid tormenting myself every few minutes checking SofaScore.

      1. Holmes
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Don't worry, you can count your Pope's CS points already

      2. Mr. O'Connell
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        This x 1000

    9. 3 A
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Combination of both. Simple.

      1. DGW blindness is for Kinnea…
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Thanks

      2. Holmes
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Is that a reply to 6 and 9 comment? 😀

        1. Fred54
          • 9 Years
          3 years, 1 month ago

          What is this an episode of Battlestar Galactica?

          1. Hooky
            • 9 Years
            3 years, 1 month ago

            Star Trek: Voyager? Seven of nine?

            1. Fred54
              • 9 Years
              3 years, 1 month ago

              Cylon model numbers in the rebooted series.

              1. The Knights Template
                • 10 Years
                3 years, 1 month ago

                Some of us watched the original series when it first came out.

      3. Epic Fail
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        I think sometimes people over complicate what is in reality a pretty simple game.

      4. Tabasco
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Simple.

    10. manu4life99
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      No chips left except FH

      Any players which need targeting or good to save FT?

      Martinez
      Stones Dias Dallas
      Salah Bruno Son Gundo Raph
      Kane Bamford

      areola dcl konsa shaw

      1. waltzingmatildas
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Looks good. I guess there are always shiny new options to target but not sure who you would lose. Perhaps son after GW29 if he doesn't improve?

        1. manu4life99
          • 14 Years
          3 years, 1 month ago

          Thanks, forced I guess short term it is all about preparing for bgw29

          Current plan is

          GW27 save
          GW28 Salah>Grealish
          GW29 Stones,DCL > Dunk,Antonio

          Would have 10 bgw29 players and cash in bank for KDB in for Raph/Grealish gw30+

    11. Stranger Mings
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Morning what are people thoughts about who to captain next gameweek?

      1. Danstoke82
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Really tough this one as so many options. Salah, Kane, Son, City players...I can’t decide.

        Currently on Gundo but I’m not sure if his purple patch is now over?

        1. Stranger Mings
          • 3 Years
          3 years, 1 month ago

          I am currently on gundo too, but just not sure whether we hill play both ? Otherwise Agree salah & kane possibly

      2. Holmes
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Dias as of now, might go for Kane

      3. tbos83
        • 3 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Currently on Gundo but wavering - he doesn't seem as potent since KDB returned

        1. Stranger Mings
          • 3 Years
          3 years, 1 month ago

          Agree that’s my concern plus rotation - Dias good shout but I hsve stones & cancello !

      4. istanbul05
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Currently on Gundo and Cancelo VC.

      5. LSK
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Probably Dias.

      6. CrouchDown
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Maybe Gundo if he gets a rest v Wolves

        1. Stranger Mings
          • 3 Years
          3 years, 1 month ago

          I hope he doesn’t ! I think I will
          Stick with gundo for timebeing but may change to Kane or salah

      7. Mr. O'Connell
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Lamptey

        1. Mr. O'Connell
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 1 month ago

          Sorry, Cancelo. Easy to confuse the two.

          1. Stranger Mings
            • 3 Years
            3 years, 1 month ago

            Do you think he will play both games ?

      8. Fred54
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        How dare you disrespect the biggest DGW in the history of FPL!

        1. Stranger Mings
          • 3 Years
          3 years, 1 month ago

          Sorry to early to be talking next gameweek?

      9. jomikijiq
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Will probably bring in KDB or Sterling and captain them

      10. michaelington
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        *Vince McMahon voice* That's gotta be, that's gotta be Kane! (c)

        1. Stranger Mings
          • 3 Years
          3 years, 1 month ago

          Cheers all for feedback !!

      11. CONNERS
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Think I'm going with Salah unless Kane and Spurs suddenly look sharp this week.

        I don't see a lot of goals for City in the first fixture, which with the added rotation issue puts me off a City player.

      12. Scots Gooner
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        KDB for me

      13. Gross Blank Point
        • 3 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        KDB I think.

    12. Danstoke82
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Anyone else enjoy a crap BB return yesterday from their 3 x Leeds players? All my hopes rest on Areola now to make it acceptable.

      If Leeds didn’t have a 29 fixture I’d have raged them all out last night haha.

      1. istanbul05
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Yep 6 points from my 3 Leeds on BB too. Only positive is that now I can concentrate on removing value from the bench

      2. DaisyDaisyDaisyDaisy
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Same. Leeds had to score for me and they failed

      3. LSK
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Had Bamford, Raph, Martinez and Konsa on my bench so I guess I set myself up for at least a partial failure on my BB but I’m actually pretty happy with it.

        1. pingissimus
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 1 month ago

          Decent bet surely with SHU to come

          I also managed Martinez but if he’s out that’s backfired for me

      4. Crunchie
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Did the same thing with a BB my Leeds players in gw29. Feel your pain. They are so hot and cold

      5. St Pauli Walnuts
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Yep, Areola to pull something back on BB too. That Leeds performance was barely recognisable to the team that played so well against Southampton.

    13. istanbul05
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Who to bench:

      1) Digne
      2) Dallas

      A) Raphina
      B) Bamford
      C) DCL

      Thanks

      1. Tabasco
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        I'd see what happens this DGW first before worrying about who to bench

        1. La Roja
          • 12 Years
          3 years, 1 month ago

          What he said

      2. Holmes
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        1C

    14. The Red Devil
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Long way to go but just checking for some feedback
      Who wins the H2H?

      A- Dias, AWB, Fernandes, Sterling
      B- Stones, cancelo, Salah, rudiger, Shaw + 1 point
      Guess the only way I lose is if Fernandes goes crazy and gets a 15-20 point haul?

    15. MoSalad
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Going to be hiding behind the Sofa for the Leicester & Spurs games got no players in those!

      1. Amey
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Same here mate.
        I have Son though

    16. waltzingmatildas
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Good to save ft?
      Martinez
      Cancelo stones dallas
      Salah Bruno son gundo (c) raphinha
      Ings bamford
      (areola dcl coufal Shaw)

      1. ILOVEBAPS
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Yeah. Confident in Ings?

        1. waltzingmatildas
          • 13 Years
          3 years, 1 month ago

          Not really! I bought him last week and figured I might as well keep him

      2. pingissimus
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        When will you next start Shaw?

        1. waltzingmatildas
          • 13 Years
          3 years, 1 month ago

          28 against WHU

      3. Amey
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Going in without WHU vs Leeds can be painful. They're a top team atm.

        1. waltzingmatildas
          • 13 Years
          3 years, 1 month ago

          True. Could do raphinha to lingard/soucek.....

    17. Steve The Spud
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Need something from my sweet areola today

      1. Epic Fail
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Any pics?

      2. La Roja
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Sounds like you’re in sugar withdrawal

      3. St Pauli Walnuts
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        You want to get that looked at that mate.

    18. CrouchDown
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Still feel like I’m waiting for my GW to start.

      No players again in 12pm kick offs

      1. Fred54
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Same, could be a terrible mistake. Gulp.

      2. Mr. O'Connell
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        I had triple Leeds. I feel like mines already finished!

      3. CONNERS
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Same here. Hoping Leicester maintain their EL form.

      4. Amey
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Areola for me

    19. John Irish
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Can anyone please send me the link for a league that Gianni Buttice is in.
      He does the FPL TEAM SELECTION on Scout cast
      TIA

      1. Fred54
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Whose she?

    20. Rabb05
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      I'd like to get kane in for palace next week and gw29 but means losing bruno until I WC him back in on gw31.
      Is it worth getting kane or does son give me enough spurs coverage?

      A.bruno/dcl to kane/barnes
      B.leave as is

      Current team (7 gw29 players currently)

      Martinez
      dias/cancelo/stones/cresswell
      Bruno/salah/son/raph/
      Dcl/watkins

      Bench: areola/bam/raph/lowton

      1. jomikijiq
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Of course it is, but DCL might still get DGW28

        1. Rabb05
          • 3 Years
          3 years, 1 month ago

          I guess we should know whether dcl has a dgw in 28 by the gw 27 deadline surely?

    21. Mr. O'Connell
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Bruno TC. Just hoping he can get through the Chelsea game without an injury, red card or a penalty miss.

      1. waltzingmatildas
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Same here!

      2. Amey
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        He'll score. Keep faith.
        Wish you at least 60 points from Bruno this GW !
        (I'll get 40 then 😉 )

        1. Mr. O'Connell
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 1 month ago

          I went for him with the Palace game in mind, but be sods law that he "does a Mane" from a couple of seasons ago.

          1. Amey
            • 5 Years
            3 years, 1 month ago

            Please don't say that ❗
            He's single handedly keeping United in top 3 😀

      3. CONNERS
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        I feel you need to set your hopes a little higher.

        1. Mr. O'Connell
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 1 month ago

          Expect nothing and you will never be disappointed

      4. CONNERS
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Kane TC here. I'll take a solitary goal.

    22. Sim Simma
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      ⚽ Team News 📰
      CRY: Guaita, Kouyaté, Cahill, van Aanholt, Ward, Milivojevic, Riedewald, Eze, Benteke, Ayew, Townsend
      Subs: Butland, Reece Hannam, Kelly, Mitchell, Dann, McCarthy, Mateta, Batshuayi

      FUL: Areola, Aina, Tete, Andersen, Adarabioyo, Bobby De Cordova-Reid, Lookman, Loftus-Cheek, Reed, Anguissa, Maja
      Subs: Fabri, Bryan, Ream, Kongolo, Robinson, Onomah, Lemina, Cavaleiro, Aleksandar Mitrovic

      LEI: Schmeichel, Evans, Thomas, Castagne, Söyüncü, Tielemans, Pereira, Barnes, Ndidi, Vardy, Iheanacho
      Subs: Ward, Amartey, Fuchs, Daley-Campbell, Sidnei Tavares, Mendy, Choudhury, Ünder, Albrighton

      ARS: Leno, Marí, Cédric, David Luiz, Tierney, Willian, Elneny, Pépé, Xhaka, Smith Rowe, Lacazette
      Subs: Ryan, Bellerín, Holding, Ceballos, Ødegaard, Saka, Partey, Aubameyang, Martinelli

    23. SAKA AND EMILE SMITH ROWE
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Mitchell benched 🙁

      1. CONNERS
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Didn't realise people still owned him tbh.

        1. SAKA AND EMILE SMITH ROWE
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 1 month ago

          On BB, played well vs BHA so was hoping he’d start today

        2. Livinginapool - Top 100 Any…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          3 years, 1 month ago

          For far too long...

      2. CONNERS
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Maybe he'll come on and get something - GL.

    24. La Roja
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Saka and Auba benched

      1. dark91
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        I just echoed you beneath 😀

        1. La Roja
          • 12 Years
          3 years, 1 month ago

          😀

      2. CONNERS
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Where is the sense in benching your two best players?

        1. Scots Gooner
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 1 month ago

          Smacks of Arteta giving up on the league

        2. Fulchester's New Centr…
          • 6 Years
          3 years, 1 month ago

          Arteta has written this one off

        3. Hazz
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 6 Years
          3 years, 1 month ago

          He's already come out and said Saka was very fatigued. Auba - I don't know.

    25. dark91
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Saka and Auba benched

    26. S.Kuqi
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Does anyone even read those articles nowadays?

      1. Salan
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        This one? Do you find it useful honestly?

    27. Salan
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Hope Crystal scores and Barnes HT