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Martial could be out for the season as Solskjaer speaks ahead of Brighton clash

Anthony Martial‘s campaign might already be over, thanks to the knee injury he picked up while on duty for France over the March international break.

The striker’s expected absence from Sunday night’s match between Manchester United and Brighton and Hove Albion was confirmed upon the release of the teamsheets, with Ole Gunnar Solskjaer offering a grim prognosis ahead of the 19:30 BST kick-off.

The United boss said:

Unfortunately, he sprained his knee with France. It’s always when they go away on internationals… you can keep your fingers crossed and hope that they come back fit.

But losing Anthony for what might be the rest of the season is very disappointing, especially when reports and signals are from there [France] that it wasn’t anything serious but it looks a bad one.

Alex Telles was feeling a bit ill, not COVID related, but he’s not fit enough to play.

Martial has been in underwhelming form for much of the campaign and hasn’t been on many Fantasy radars in some time but any lengthy absence would only boost Edinson Cavani‘s prospects of more Premier League starts, with the obvious caveat being the rotation risk around the UEFA Europa League ties.

The veteran Uruguayan leads the line for the Red Devils tonight and is one of two changes that Ole Gunnar Solskjaer has made from United’s last Premier League game three weeks ago.

Daniel James is the man to make way for Cavani, with Paul Pogba replacing Scott McTominay in midfield.

Marcus Rashford and Mason Greenwood recover from injury to feature, while Bruno Fernandes will be looking to add to the four attacking returns he had registered in two previous meetings with the Seagulls.

Dean Henderson keeps his place ahead of David de Gea, with Solskjaer explaining:

We’ve got nine league games, we’ve got Europa League. With the two options I’ve got, it’s a difficult one to leave one out as both of them have done well enough to play.

Brighton are unsurprisingly unchanged from their excellent 3-0 win over Newcastle United.

Dan Burn isn’t involved in the matchday squad, with Graham Potter having previously confirmed that the left-sided defender was still struggling for fitness.


Manchester United XI: Henderson, Wan-Bissaka, Lindelof, Maguire, Shaw, Fred, Pogba, Fernandes, Greenwood, Cavani, Rashford.

Brighton and Hove Albion XI: Sanchez, White, Dunk, Veltman, Gross, Lallana, Bissouma, Moder, Trossard, Maupay, Welbeck.

434 Comments Post a Comment
  1. FPL Daniel
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 12 days ago

    No Shaw :(((( after missing 50+ pts for not picking him on WC!@@ arrrhhhh. Should have gone TAA in hindsight

    1. Bushwhacker
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 12 days ago

      Got him for assists surely?

      1. FPL Daniel
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 12 days ago

        I got him for hauls not for blanks !!!

    2. SEXY SOLO SAUCE
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 12 days ago

      Is TAA worth the outlay though?
      Apparent from the odd assist not much has changed from near he start of the season when everyone had him but wanted to get rid.

      Now everyone wants him again lol

      1. Traction Engine Foot
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 12 days ago

        His delivery really looked like it was back on point against Arsenal.

        1. SEXY SOLO SAUCE
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 12 days ago

          I know but one game?

          1. Tonyawesome69
            • 5 Years
            3 years, 12 days ago

            First game back after not being called up for England. He will prove Southgate wrong.

            1. SEXY SOLO SAUCE
              • 7 Years
              3 years, 12 days ago

              That could be a big motivator I guess, I do have my eye on him but I was disappointed to see he’s barely dropped from his original price

              1. Tonyawesome69
                • 5 Years
                3 years, 12 days ago

                Liverpool defence tightened up, Fabinho back in midfield and 9 and 12 points in the last two games. I think I'll be jumping on the TAA train instead of going with Philips

    3. Eh, just one more thing ...
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 12 days ago

      Not convinced by TAA at that price ... he’s done nothing to justify it all season ... hauls some points this weekend and we’re supposed to assume it’s back to the lad from last season. I know they have some nice fixtures ... but 7m+ ... in that Liverpool side .... hmmmm. I’m not so sure.

  2. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
    • 13 Years
    3 years, 12 days ago

    Dunk hits the bar

    1. FPL Daniel
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 12 days ago

      He is the new Laursen

  3. sentz05
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 12 days ago

    Thoughts on this WC?

    Mendy Foster
    Dias Dawson R Williams Shaw Fofana
    Gundogan Son Jota Bruno KDB
    Kane Antonio Davis

    1. FPL Daniel
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 12 days ago

      I don't get the Dawson love

    2. Bury94
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 12 days ago

      Looks good. But premature with Foster, Watford haven't been promoted yet

    3. Tonyawesome69
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 12 days ago

      Triple city overkill when they have pretty much wrapped up the league. Williams to Phillips

    4. SEXY SOLO SAUCE
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 12 days ago

      Not bad, no DCL love for the double?
      Will Mendy keep his place after the horror show yesterday?

  4. Herman Toothrot
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 12 days ago

    Reading the comments on here I'm amazed most aren't in A&E with friction burns to the hand when a CS get wiped.

    1. Bury94
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 12 days ago

      😆

    2. Bushwhacker
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 12 days ago

      Gigitty gigitty

    3. Tango74
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 12 days ago

      So true. Why do people get so excited ?

      1. OLD Rafiki
        • 3 Years
        3 years, 12 days ago

        choosing other diff apart from Shaw with fingers crossed that his cs to be wiped is truly exciting to see this.

    4. Nomar
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 12 days ago

      I expect tissue sales go up, though!

  5. SEXY SOLO SAUCE
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 12 days ago

    Worst gameweek of all time becomes even worse

    1. Kun Tozser
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 12 days ago

      Did you not captain Kane?

      1. SEXY SOLO SAUCE
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 12 days ago

        I did but everything else has been rubbish. I don’t own United defense just saying in general it’s been pretty bad in general for popular picks

  6. FPL Daniel
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 12 days ago

    It's amazes me how come Jose Borinho keeps getting top jobs

    1. Egg noodle
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 12 days ago

      It's about how you present your CV, not how you do the job

    2. Bushwhacker
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 12 days ago

      Yeah having won all those trophies he must be useless

    3. My heart goes Salalalalah
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 12 days ago

      The chosen one

    4. GreennRed
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 12 days ago

      He got the Porto U12s to a district final a few years ago....

  7. Tonyawesome69
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 12 days ago

    Thoughts on the WC team below?

    Not sure about Coady and Shaw. I could get a different pairing and do Martinez to Mendy

    0itb
    Martinez* Forster
    Coady* Rudiger TAA Shaw* Cresswell
    Salah Jota Bruno Son Raphinha
    Kane Nacho Brewster

    1. Flynny
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 12 days ago

      Like this . Very solid indeed

    2. School of Poch
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 12 days ago

      Very similar to my first draft. I like it. Rudiger rotation could be an issue but you have decent cover. I've gone with Mendy for Chelsea def cover atm.

      1. Tonyawesome69
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 12 days ago

        I think I want to double up in Mnedy and Rudiger. It's just trying to see where I can get those funds to do Martinez to Mendy. I don't think Rudiger is a rotation. Even though Silva's RC was the main reason the the loss, I think it reinforces Rudiger as a nailed pick imo

        1. School of Poch
          • 8 Years
          3 years, 12 days ago

          Yeah fair point about Rudiger. I never like a defensive double up though. Only 0.1 needed to get from Martinez to Mendy?

          1. Tonyawesome69
            • 5 Years
            3 years, 12 days ago

            0.2 short. I sort of understand that comment but if you think they will get a CS why not double-up? Risk reward

            1. School of Poch
              • 8 Years
              3 years, 12 days ago

              It's very true and I'm contradicting myself as I've had Dias/Cancelo for some time now. Could you downgrade Coady or Cresswell. I have Coufal for West Ham defence. Would prefer Cresswell though. Depends how set you are on the double up!

  8. JBG
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 12 days ago

    Cavani been fking awful so far.

    1. Eh, just one more thing ...
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 12 days ago

      He covers every blade of grass out there… but that's only because his first touch is so crap.

      1. JBG
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 12 days ago

        Exactly

  9. Flair
    • 3 Years
    3 years, 12 days ago

    We're all Brighton here, right?

    1. Goodfeathers
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 12 days ago

      All the way!

    2. FPL price manipulators are …
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 12 days ago

      They should be renamed XG Football Club

    3. Bushwhacker
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 12 days ago

      Yup ; better side thus far too

  10. Bury94
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 12 days ago

    Anyone started Veltman?

    1. The Point About It Is
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 12 days ago

      he is coming off the bench for me due to Rudiger/Cancelo

      1. Tango74
        • 3 Years
        3 years, 12 days ago

        Same with trossard coming on to

    2. Flair
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 12 days ago

      3rd on my bench atm, rarely loved a bench haul more if he cleans

    3. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 12 days ago

      Nope

    4. Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 12 days ago

      I'm getting Veltman for Stones. So yes?

    5. KAALI_DAAL
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 12 days ago

      Sanchez

    6. The Sociologist
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 12 days ago

      3rd on my bench, but he's subbing in.

  11. Pep Roulette
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 12 days ago

    Play 2 out of these. One defender compulsory.

    A. Maguire vs TOT(A)
    B. Dunk vs EVE(H)
    C. Watkins vs LIV(A)
    D. Raphinha vs MCI(A)

    I'm currently on A & B

    1. tbos83
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 12 days ago

      A, C

    2. Catastrophe
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 12 days ago

      Close. B and D. Dunk more threat than Maguire and surely United concede.

    3. Tonyawesome69
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 12 days ago

      AD

    4. Bushwhacker
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 12 days ago

      B D

      1. My heart goes Salalalalah
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 12 days ago

        B C

  12. Philosopher's Stones
    • 3 Years
    3 years, 12 days ago

    Two defenders no shows and Taylor and Burn on the bench. The disaster GW from hell.

  13. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
    • 13 Years
    3 years, 12 days ago

    I didn’t realise this fpl lee character was a “pundit” here. He is ridiculing players getting injured on his Twitter now

    I see when people laugh or joke about injuries here they are thrown to the wolves and given bans.

    Let’s not have double standards please. The people and companies associated with this site in recent times are getting worse. It’s as if anyone is let in.

    1. Whazza
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 12 days ago

      What did he say?

      1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 12 days ago

        Comment about martial being out for the season and then saying he’s talentless

        Perhaps trying to be controversial. But then again you need to act responsibily

        1. Duke Silver ☑
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          3 years, 12 days ago

          He's definitely trying to be controversial. He just likened himself to the FPL equivalent of Piers Morgan 😆

        2. Whazza
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 12 days ago

          Harsh!

    2. Bury94
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 12 days ago

      It's a bit odd, him and Sam are well respected members of the community, not sure why he's made these stupid comments tonight

    3. Philosopher's Stones
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 12 days ago

      Yeah. The Lee guy has been getting really controversial for quite sometime now. Doing questionable things is bad in itself, more so when you're associated with the official FPL thing. Though how he got there in the first place is a big mystery in itself.

    4. SEXY SOLO SAUCE
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 12 days ago

      I’ll be running the show soon don’t worry my guy Bemba

    5. Duke Silver ☑
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 12 days ago

      Tbh the whole FPL twitter community thing is quite cringe-worthy. All these so called FPL pundits circle-jerking each other's decisions leading to each of them dropping Patreon links and shiz. 😆

      1. My heart goes Salalalalah
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 12 days ago

        +947

      2. GreennRed
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 12 days ago

        What's more cringe worthy is they seem to have plenty of takers. In fairness FPL is getting bigger, even BBC radio do a show most weeks in their 606 podcast. And FFS is the biggest show in town advice wise, plenty of members paid or not, so it's attractive for advertisers.

    6. SEXY SOLO SAUCE
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 12 days ago

      If I finish top 1k I’m going to start a 100% free fpl patreon style service

      1. My heart goes Salalalalah
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 12 days ago

        I'm in

    7. fusen
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 12 days ago

      I don't pay any attention to the FPL scene on Twitter but I just read his tweets and then looked at the replies and most of the replies seem to be from people that don't like him. His tweets are a bit juvenile but nothing outrageous yet the replies go into him like he has shot their dog

    8. My heart goes Salalalalah
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 12 days ago

      Who dat?

    9. Amey
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 12 days ago

      He's like that. We shouldn't give them more attention because that's what they seek IMO.
      It's utterly ridiculous if he's mocking anyone's Injury.

      Wait wait ... Don't say anything. He'll use the Pandemic card. 😆

    10. GreennRed
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 12 days ago

      He's grand, just not as PC as most of the other 'Pro' pundits. And he has a lovely wife.

    11. fclackless [Brazil Nuts]
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 11 days ago

      Yep ... he's a t*t

  14. balint84
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 12 days ago

    Kdb or Salah to buy back?

    1. Tonyawesome69
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 12 days ago

      Salah

  15. Mr. O'Connell
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 12 days ago

    Knew Grealish coming back would mean Villa goals. Justice for holding him through 8 weeks of injury. Haven't seen the scorers but I assume I'm on for at least 15 points. We move.

    1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 12 days ago

      😆

    2. SEXY SOLO SAUCE
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 12 days ago

      Love it.

  16. balint84
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 12 days ago

    When will Everton plays the double?

    1. Tonyawesome69
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 12 days ago

      Possibl 35

  17. sentz05
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 12 days ago

    Thoughts on this WC?

    Mendy Forster
    Dias Dawson R Williams Shaw Digne
    Gundogan Son Jota Bruno Lingard
    Kane DCL Nacho

    1. Whazza
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 12 days ago

      Very very good but Williams? You mean Phillips?

      1. sentz05
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 12 days ago

        My bad

  18. George Sillett
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 12 days ago

    Where did this shocking "we move" phrase originate from ? Misappropriated crap.

    1. Bury94
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 12 days ago

      You're just not down with the cool kids

    2. Bushwhacker
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 12 days ago

      Not as bad as kick on to be fair

    3. Philosopher's Stones
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 12 days ago

      Don't let a phrase bother you. We move.

    4. TheDragon
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 12 days ago

      Do you not love to see it?

      1. SEXY SOLO SAUCE
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 12 days ago

        Nightcrawler esque!

    5. Herman Toothrot
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 12 days ago

      Worse than people stating owners of players have 'nowhere to hide'?

    6. fusen
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 12 days ago

      See "we go again" which seemed to start after Liverpool used it a couple of years ago during a failed title season.

      This feels like it's related

    7. SEXY SOLO SAUCE
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 12 days ago

      It is cringe worthy but gives me a chuckle when I see it.

      I’m sure I first heard LTFPL Andy use it

    8. Make United Great Again
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 12 days ago

      It’s a lifestyle my guy.

    9. Qaiss
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 12 days ago

      People below the age of 18 on Twitter who have no responsibilities.

    10. Eh, just one more thing ...
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 12 days ago

      PhrasesRus ... you get you’re first pish phrase free but after that you have to pay a monthly fee for fresh new pish phrases to impress your friends with. Pick boldly.

    11. Je suis le chat
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 12 days ago

      I like the phrase "we move". It's succinct and better than "it is what it is" Love using the latter to any people!

  19. DARK SIDE OF THE LOON
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 12 days ago

    Would Iheanacho feature regularly for Leicester?

    1. Tonyawesome69
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 12 days ago

      Barnes still a few weeks away so yes

    2. dunas_dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 12 days ago

      Until Barnes is back I think so- and Barnes at least a month from fitness I think Rodgers said. He was subbed early for Maddison yesterday though is only seed of doubt

      1. DARK SIDE OF THE LOON
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 12 days ago

        Exactly why I asked. I thought Perez would be subbed off instead.

      2. Tonyawesome69
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 12 days ago

        I expect Maddison to come in for Perez and play behind the front two.

    3. Duke Silver ☑
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 12 days ago

      If he can keep up his form yes. Maddison re-introduction could cause a re-shuffle soon.

  20. dunas_dog
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 12 days ago

    On a WC which one of following would you leave out to improve overall team?

    A Kane
    B Salah
    C Bruno
    D KDB

    1. Philosopher's Stones
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 12 days ago

      D

    2. Tonyawesome69
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 12 days ago

      KDB

    3. School of Poch
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 12 days ago

      D.

      My current draft has ABC, debating no City or just Dias. Rotation plus title in the bag makes D less of an option for me.

      1. Tonyawesome69
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 12 days ago

        Exactly this.

  21. Bushwhacker
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 12 days ago

    AWB being ruthlessly exposed as bang average by ... Brighton

  22. Shark Team
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 12 days ago

    Get rid of Auba or Bale first?
    Keep Bale only for DGW?

    1. Kun Tozser
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 12 days ago

      Ditch bale first

    2. Whazza
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 12 days ago

      Bale I think.. Auba plays and faces shu FUL next two

    3. Tonyawesome69
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 12 days ago

      Bale

    4. tbos83
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 12 days ago

      Don't think Bale will start again this season

  23. Rash
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 12 days ago

    Missed the deadline so have 2 free transfers but the original plan was to wildcard..

    Martinez Johnstone
    Coufal Creswell dallas dias dunk
    Bale bruno gundog Raphinha son
    Bamford kane maja

    3.4itb

    Still use wildcard in your opinion or make 2 or 3 moves?

    1. Tonyawesome69
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 12 days ago

      Draft a WC team and see if it is worth hit the WC button

  24. SAKA AND EMILE SMITH ROWE
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 12 days ago

    Transferred out White for Shaw, Brighton CS confirmed!

  25. Pep Roulette
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 12 days ago

    Great tackle by Maguire!

  26. Whazza
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 12 days ago

    Looking at a cheap fifth mid for WC. Any suggestions? Smith-Rowe (4.2) current pick, but does anyone happen to know how long he is injured?

    1. Kun Tozser
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 12 days ago

      Ollie Burke as you know you’ll be 0.1 short sometime in the future 😉 and zero benching headaches

      1. Whazza
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 12 days ago

        Look at that, 4.1! Will consider, cheers!

    2. SAKA AND EMILE SMITH ROWE
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 12 days ago

      ESR best option

      1. Whazza
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 12 days ago

        Thanks!

  27. Eh, just one more thing ...
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 12 days ago

    Pretty toothless stuff From Man U ... think they have to move to plan B assuming they have one ... as this looked pretty clueless thus far.

    1. Bushwhacker
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 12 days ago

      Ole ... plan B? I’ll have some of what you’re smoking!

      1. Eh, just one more thing ...
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 12 days ago

        LOL ... I think it’s that starting 11 that have been smoking something judging by that first half.

    2. Flair
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 12 days ago

      Plan B is bring on McTominay for Pogba and rearrange the training cones, that should do it.

    3. @persecuted_by_mods
        3 years, 12 days ago

        Plan b is similar to plan a, wait in hope of a penalty

    4. Bushwhacker
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 12 days ago

      United desperately need the ref to step in here. No doubt he’ll get a note at half time.

      1. Goodfeathers
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 12 days ago

        You can always count on Mike Dean to take a game by the scruff of the neck 🙂

    5. School of Poch
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 12 days ago

      Which WC draft do you prefer.

      A

      Mendy Forster
      TAA Shaw Coady Coufal Amartey
      Salah Bruno Son Jota Lingard
      Kane Iheanacho Brewster

      B

      Mendy Forster
      TAA Dias Cresswell Shaw Coady
      Bruno Son Jota Lingard Neto
      Kane DCL Iheanacho

      B is more balanced but could be a benching headache. A has some fodder but Salah.

      1. Tonyawesome69
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 12 days ago

        So it's essentially Coufal, Amartey, Salah and Brewster Vs Creswell, Dias, Neto, DCL. I think I prefer B

        1. School of Poch
          • 8 Years
          3 years, 12 days ago

          When you put it like that B does sound a lot better. It's the no Salah that is the big difference I guess.

    6. Make United Great Again
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 12 days ago

      Can’t believe we spent 50 million on a right back who plays like Bambi on ice.

      1. Qaiss
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 12 days ago

        And the 80m fridge.

        Pogba as well is world class sometimes but other times like today, looks like he couldn’t care less.

      2. Champions League Varane
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 12 days ago

        Maguire is worse

        1. Old Man
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          3 years, 12 days ago

          Yes - and they gave us 80 million for him. Good business.

      3. FPL price manipulators are …
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 12 days ago

        They wanted their own version of TAA. Same with Maguire, they tried to copy VVD effect