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How I am coping with football fatigue in a tough FPL season

We are into Gameweek 32 of this brutal season and being frank, a lot of Fantasy Premier League managers are just about managing to scrape through to the finish line. 

Huffing and puffing through this condensed season, a lot of FPL managers are approaching burn-out levels and it might be a good idea to tackle this issue with this article (thanks for the suggestion @FPL_Beard), especially with the amount of people deciding to quit this game recently. 

This week, I was listening to the latest episode of the brilliant FPL Surgery Podcast where the FPL General’s ‘how to deal with bad Gameweeks and bad seasons’ made for a very interesting listen.

We are at the back end of a gruelling season. There are many reasons for managers to feel FPL fatigue at the moment. I’m not even sure if its just fatigue about FPL, considering the sheer number of hours we have football on in long and dragged-out Gameweeks. As FPL managers, we are used to maybe watching two or three matches during a weekend and now there are some days where we have ten hours of football in a single day. 

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I am convinced these long drawn-out Gameweeks are the primary reason for football fatigue and so many managers I speak to now just find watching the sport to be a little bit of a chore and I completely empathise with that. What makes it even more drawn out is that we are still very much in the middle of a pandemic and our social lives are not as active as they used to be. 

Even the break we had before the season started was a lot shorter than what we’re used to. It was barely a break if you ask me. And now we have a lot more matches condensed in a much shorter time period. Until recently, this has even affected the quality of the football that we’ve been watching. Nowadays, I find myself tuning out of games and avoiding watching football a lot more than I used to. The international break has definitely changed things though and the quality in the last two Gameweeks in the Premier League has been a lot better. A welcome change.

But yes, if you’re finding your love for football and FPL to dwindle this season, know that you’re not the only one. These are uncertain times. They are the anomaly, not the norm. Still, many will be wondering how one tackles football and FPL burnout. Well,  here are a few suggestions.

PICK YOUR GAMES

You don’t have to watch all the Premier League games to do well in FPL. We never saw all the matches in normal seasons when there were five or six games kicking off at the same time anyway. If you ask me, watching Match of the Day and absorbing some statistics is enough to do well in FPL. Give yourself some time off from football and that should definitely help dealing with FPL burnout.

WHEN YOU’RE SWITCHED OFF, STAY SWITCHED OFF

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Often when I’ve decided to not watch a game during a Gameweek, I find myself distracted while ‘doing that other activity’ I had planned to do because I’ll constantly be looking at Twitter, my FPL Whatsapp groups and there will be constant notifications from your football apps. 

And considering that we have 15 to 20 hours of football to get through every Gameweek, and you’re not able to switch off when you switch off, burnout will naturally happen. 

What I’ve started doing in the second half of the season is just have a little bit of a digital detox. I switch off notifications (highly recommend this for most of your applications so that you’re deciding when to check your phone instead of letting your phone decide that for you) on all my apps on weekends and try staying off my Whatsapp groups and Twitter. 

Social Media around FPL has grown tremendously during the last few years and if you’re an active part of the forums and Twitter, on matchdays it’ll seem like every goal that is scored by someone is highly owned by everyone else but you. This isn’t actually the case and can be unnecessarily damaging for you to believe it.

MAKE YOURSELF MISS FOOTBALL AND FPL

Do other things. I find that if I have managed to successfully switch off for a day or two, I really enjoy catching up on things on the third day because I’ve truly switched off when I’ve needed to (probably not as often as I should but that’s my choice as a content creator). 

I am hopelessly addicted to FPL and when I give myself genuine time off doing other things for a couple of days, the love for the game comes gushing back on the third day where I truly enjoy my interaction, writing and consuming football and FPL content. 

Trying to box your time during FPL and other things will really really help. You can cheat a little with how you box things and its perfectly okay to have your score update applications on during Gameweeks but I would highly recommend switching off social media during matchdays, although it all comes down to your preference and how you can handle things. 

FIND SOMETHING TO PLAY FOR

If, like me, you are having a poor season, you need to indulge in little mini-games and find something to play for. I am currently ranked outside the one-million mark and I raised the white flag a few weeks ago when it comes to overall rank. 

So all I’m doing is getting players and differentials I like and trying to catch some differential hauls. I know managers that are taking multiple hits every week trying to achieve Manager of the week (because the hits don’t count) and I admire that because they are doing what they are doing to keep their interest alive in the game. 

On a personal note, I will admit it is a little bit of a relief to give up on the season and has made the game a lot more enjoyable for me when I’m watching the matches owning players that I like. Yes, you can throw the ‘points are fun’ argument in my face but I’ll argue that it is entirely subjective. I’ve concluded that I am not going to achieve my Overall Rank goal this year and a Sergio Aguero (£10.3m) goal when he’s in my team will give me a lot more joy than a 200k green arrow at this stage. My advice on FPL will definitely be more rational than the moves I make and I’m completely okay with that. 

A little bit of a sidetrack, but I’ve done some reflection on my poor decision making in 2020/21 and I’m chomping at the bit to start next season. That’s one thing you will always have when you’re having a poor season. The lessons learned during a poor campaign are usually more helpful than if you’ve had a good one and, of course, my motivation to make up for it in 2021/22 is very high. Not to mention the fact that I have the privilege to write and create podcasts definitely keeps the fire burning.

CONCLUSION

I hope you find some of my ideas helpful. I believe it is entirely feasible to play FPL, enjoy and do well in the game even by putting healthy thought-processes in place to protect our mental state.

These are only my suggestions, so please treat them as such. I am curious to know what you are doing to combat football and FPL fatigue, so feel free to let me know in the comments section. 

Here is hoping we do not have staggered kick-offs next season. Never forget. FPL itself is not a sport. It’s a game. 

If you want more detailed thoughts on the best FPL players to own for the run-in, Zophar and I discussed the fixture-swings, differentials and teams to target for the home-stretch in our latest episode of The FPL Wire which you can view below.

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  1. Zladan
    • 6 Years
    2 years, 11 months ago

    Is it stupid to captain and vice captain players from the same team still?

    Or are we well over the match cancellations now?

    1. McSauce
      • 14 Years
      2 years, 11 months ago

      No I think we are past cancellations at this point.

      That said, it could happen.

      Assume you mean Kane & Son

    2. @persecuted_by_mods
        2 years, 11 months ago

        It's an unnecessary risk to take though chances are you'll be fine

    3. McSauce
      • 14 Years
      2 years, 11 months ago

      I own Vardy, which is best option;

      A) Watkins --> Iheanacho (FT)
      B) Dias & Gundy --> Holding & Jota (-4)
      C) Dias, Gundy & Watkins --> Reg, Jota & Iheanacho (-8)
      D) Save FT

      1. @persecuted_by_mods
          2 years, 11 months ago

          A or D without knowing the rest of your team

        • McSauce
          • 14 Years
          2 years, 11 months ago

          Martinez
          Dallas Dias Shaw
          Son Bruno Gundy Lingard
          Vardy Kane (C) Watkins

          McCarthy Raph Veltman Targett

          1. @persecuted_by_mods
              2 years, 11 months ago

              Probs B if you think you can guess who starts and doesn't

        • Miguel Sanchez
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 7 Years
          2 years, 11 months ago

          Greenwood should start vs Burnley this weekend?

          1. @persecuted_by_mods
              2 years, 11 months ago

              Should do, but the closer they get to having top 4 mathematically confirmed the more rotation will come into play, he won't want to flop another semi final

              1. Miguel Sanchez
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 7 Years
                2 years, 11 months ago

                Very true - need to decide on a Gundogan replacement between

                Jota (have Salah and TAA), Maddison (just coming back) and Greenwood (explosive potential but as you say could be benched as top 4 becomes guaranteed.

                1. pingissimus
                  • 5 Years
                  2 years, 11 months ago

                  Who's the bench option for a Gundo no show?

                  In a very similar situation but with Raph who I slightly doubt and Stones who I doubt a great deal. Lose both of them and I get Konsa

                  1. Miguel Sanchez
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 7 Years
                    2 years, 11 months ago

                    Raph* (LIV) Coufal (new) and Konsa (MCI) but have Alonso starting who is also at risk

                    1. pingissimus
                      • 5 Years
                      2 years, 11 months ago

                      Very similar spot then - I have Stones and not Alonso and I suspect both are unlikely.

                      Wondering about holding Raph and getting Cavani instead. looking at injury history it looks as if the Cavani no shows are mostly driven by injury. Prefer Greenwood marginally but he looks to have missed more through non-selection.

            • kennethrhcp
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 13 Years
              2 years, 11 months ago

              id guess yes

          2. Lignja
            • 6 Years
            2 years, 11 months ago

            Last 2 spot for BB team

            A. Bamford, Gundogan
            B. Bamford, Lingard -4
            C. Lacazete, Saka -4
            D. Cavani, Saka -4

            Rest of team is

            Mendy, Forster
            Shaw, Coady, Holding, Philips, Rudiger
            Salah, Son, Fernandes, Jota, Gundogan*
            Kane, Ihenacho, Dcl*

            1. @persecuted_by_mods
                2 years, 11 months ago

                No hit just DCL out for whoever you can afford

                1. kennethrhcp
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 13 Years
                  2 years, 11 months ago

                  +1 dont worry about Gundo. Just take care of DCL

            2. Daghe Munegu
              • 7 Years
              2 years, 11 months ago

              Play 2 please

              A Rudiger
              B Fofana
              C Holding (have Leno)
              D ESR

              1. @persecuted_by_mods
                  2 years, 11 months ago

                  Top 2 for me

                • kennethrhcp
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 13 Years
                  2 years, 11 months ago

                  any news on D?

                  Prob A&B safest

              2. the_duke
                • 3 Years
                2 years, 11 months ago

                Save FT or do Dias > Shaw?

                Mendy
                TAA, Coady, Dias
                Salah, Bruno, Son, Jota, Lingard
                Kane, Nacho

                Forster, Rudiger, Lowton, Davis

                1. @persecuted_by_mods
                    2 years, 11 months ago

                    Easy save

                  • kennethrhcp
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 13 Years
                    2 years, 11 months ago

                    save imo. best have 2 fts in the coming weeks

                2. kennethrhcp
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 13 Years
                  2 years, 11 months ago

                  1 week only to worry about(WC still to use): DCL to
                  A: Nacho (WBA)
                  B: Cavani (BUR)
                  C: Firmino (lee)
                  D: Better option for 9.4? Own Kane & Laca

                  1. DA Minnion (Former great)
                    • 11 Years
                    2 years, 11 months ago

                    A

                  2. @persecuted_by_mods
                      2 years, 11 months ago

                      A

                    • Lemongrab
                      • 14 Years
                      2 years, 11 months ago

                      A

                    • kennethrhcp
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 13 Years
                      2 years, 11 months ago

                      thanks lads! really appreciate the replies

                  3. Tomerick
                    • 9 Years
                    2 years, 11 months ago

                    Do we expect Cresswell and/or Raphinha to play this week?

                    1. @persecuted_by_mods
                        2 years, 11 months ago

                        Both doubts and managers have said its touch and go, 50/50

                      • kennethrhcp
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 13 Years
                        2 years, 11 months ago

                        so hard to know what to do... start them & fear a cameo or stick on bench

                      • Tomerick
                        • 9 Years
                        2 years, 11 months ago

                        Oh dear this does not bode well

                    2. Lemongrab
                      • 14 Years
                      2 years, 11 months ago

                      Morning all!

                      Play Raphinha or Digne?

                      1. kennethrhcp
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 13 Years
                        2 years, 11 months ago

                        digne just

                    3. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
                      • 7 Years
                      2 years, 11 months ago

                      Areola, Digne ->
                      Lloris, Semedo -4

                      Leaves me with this defence
                      Lloris (Sanchez)
                      TAA Semedo Dallas (Dunk Targett)

                      Sound good?

                      1. kennethrhcp
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 13 Years
                        2 years, 11 months ago

                        looks good to me

                        1. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
                          • 7 Years
                          2 years, 11 months ago

                          Cheers Kenneth!

                    4. Ian Davis
                      • 14 Years
                      2 years, 11 months ago

                      Digne > Reguilon or just play Dias?

                      1. Lemongrab
                        • 14 Years
                        2 years, 11 months ago

                        Just play Dias. Digne will have a double so wouldn't sell

                    5. DonBenzema
                      • 3 Years
                      2 years, 11 months ago

                      Is this move worth it?

                      Targett -> Reguilon

                      If yes, bench one of Dias (avl) or Rudiger (BHA)

                    6. Podorsky
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 14 Years
                      2 years, 11 months ago

                      Good morning, Not sure whether I should play Stones or Digne. Attacking upside for Digne, clean sheet potential for Stones. Close to the leader in my mini league so do not want to take big risks. Ideas?

                      1. Lemongrab
                        • 14 Years
                        2 years, 11 months ago

                        Stones imo. He might not play anyway making it a moot point

                    7. Dion D's Solo Shower
                      • 6 Years
                      2 years, 11 months ago

                      Do we think Madders goes straight back into the XI?
                      Thinking of swapping Gundo for him

                      Or should I just get Iheanacho for Ings?

                      1. Miguel Sanchez
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 7 Years
                        2 years, 11 months ago

                        Just get Nacho.

                    8. Horlicks esq.
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 14 Years
                      2 years, 11 months ago

                    9. Bavarian
                      • 6 Years
                      2 years, 11 months ago

                      Who to Play?
                      A-Rudiger (vs BHA Home - Have Mendy)
                      B-Coady (vs SHU Home)

                      1. dabber7
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 3 Years
                        2 years, 11 months ago

                        B

                    10. nims076
                      • 7 Years
                      2 years, 11 months ago

                      Mendy
                      Phillips Reguillon Shaw
                      Son Salah Lingard Bruno Jota
                      Kane(C) Nacho

                      Leno Holding Rudiger Wood

                      A. Would you BB this?

                      B. Would you use your FT for Wood to Wilson? Or roll for next week?

                      Thanks

                      1. #Swish41
                        • 13 Years
                        2 years, 11 months ago

                        I’d BB. When else will you use it? Rotation will only get worse IMO, and the bench has great fixturs

                    11. Horlicks esq.
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 14 Years
                      2 years, 11 months ago

                      Mourinho: "A big nine days and the nine days are going to end with a cup final. Which of course, for all of us, is going to be an important moment. So we are not depending on the Goodison result to go to that final with the best spirit, with the best feelings."

                      Does Jose mean the opposite here? Going into the final with the best spirits and best feelings will depend on the Goodison result. Or is it as it reads - It doesnt matter what happens at Goodison.

                      Struck me an odd use of language and also raised a slight eyebrow over resting key players before the final. aka Kane limited?

                      1. Lemongrab
                        • 14 Years
                        2 years, 11 months ago

                        You're reading too much into it. Kane will play both, might come off early in the soton game if they're cruising

                        1. Horlicks esq.
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 14 Years
                          2 years, 11 months ago

                          Jose is the kind of god complex to add silverware over top 4. If anybody is going to rest the big guns to ensure a trophy its Jose flipping Mourinho.

                          But yes agree - I am probably overthinking it. TC will remain on Kane.

                      2. Ajax Hamsterdam
                        • 9 Years
                        2 years, 11 months ago

                        FFS wish I never read this since I took a hit to get son.

                    12. Dr. Rog
                      • 14 Years
                      2 years, 11 months ago

                      Rank these 3 players for this GW (play, 1st sub, 2nd sub)

                      Jota (lee)
                      Stones (avl)
                      Smith Rowe (FUL)

                      1. @persecuted_by_mods
                          2 years, 11 months ago

                          Same order

                      2. JenkoJunko
                        • 5 Years
                        2 years, 11 months ago

                        *Repost*Morning all! Thoughts on the below..

                        Squad: 2FTs 1.5ITB
                        Johnstone Martinez
                        Cresswell Stones Shaw AMN Veltman
                        KDB Bruno Lingz Jota Raph
                        Welbeck Kane Richy

                        Richy / Cresswell / Stones to Wilson / TAA / Coady -4

                        1. Ajax Hamsterdam
                          • 9 Years
                          2 years, 11 months ago

                          Can you fit son ?

                          1. JenkoJunko
                            • 5 Years
                            2 years, 11 months ago

                            Not really no, I've tried and it just messes a lot up and I'm just not convinced its worth it. Plus I'm triple captaining Kane so thought that may help to cover me.

                        2. kysersosa
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 9 Years
                          2 years, 11 months ago

                          Would hold on Wilson. Not 100% sure on his fitness/sharpness.

                          1. JenkoJunko
                            • 5 Years
                            2 years, 11 months ago

                            Yeah appreciate that. Fancy a punt on him this week though, can see goals in that game.

                            1. kysersosa
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              • 9 Years
                              2 years, 11 months ago

                              You can see goals in a WHU game?! Lol, quite a surprise.

                              I think it’s a shout, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he didn’t start and if he did only get 60 mins. West Ham have conceded most of their goals in the second half, most recently, so if he gets pulled off early doors you could be blanking.

                      3. Rains of Castamere
                        • 9 Years
                        2 years, 11 months ago

                        I must be the only person in the top 10k without Lingard and still can't bring him in this week (chose to get Jota instead). Don't kill me, Jesse.

                        1. Ajax Hamsterdam
                          • 9 Years
                          2 years, 11 months ago

                          Subtle brag?

                          1. Rains of Castamere
                            • 9 Years
                            2 years, 11 months ago

                            Could be perceived that way

                      4. battlecat
                        • 13 Years
                        2 years, 11 months ago

                        So, is the common consensus that if you still have the Triple Captain Chip, this is the week to use it on Mr Kane?

                        1. Il Capitano
                          • 3 Years
                          2 years, 11 months ago

                          You knows it

                      5. kysersosa
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 9 Years
                        2 years, 11 months ago

                        TC Kane? Surely the best time too?

                        1. battlecat
                          • 13 Years
                          2 years, 11 months ago

                          Literally just asked that. Surely. It’s got to be. Right?

                        2. Jam0sh
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 11 Years
                          2 years, 11 months ago

                          Why not

                        3. #Swish41
                          • 13 Years
                          2 years, 11 months ago

                          Got to be

                        4. JenkoJunko
                          • 5 Years
                          2 years, 11 months ago

                          Don't over think it. Its obvious for a reason, Its Harry Kane against two sides with questionable defences! Even if it doesn't work, its the right thing to do. I'm doing it for sure!

                      6. Corgz Dark side of the Loon
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 8 Years
                        2 years, 11 months ago

                        Guys, I think I know the answer, but would you transfer Bruno out for Lingard. ?? Feels like im chasing lost points.........currently rolling my FT. Also would you play Alonso ahead of Rudi and Holding ?? I am 14k trying to break into top 10k.

                        Martinez,
                        Alonso, TAA, Regulion.
                        Son, Salah, Bruno, Jota, Maddison.
                        Kane (TC), Nacho.

                        Forster, Rudiger, Holding, Vydra.

                        1. RAFA THE GAFFA
                          • 7 Years
                          2 years, 11 months ago

                          No to selling Bruno. Yes to Alonso over Rudi. Would also put Holding sub1

                          1. Corgz Dark side of the Loon
                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                            • 8 Years
                            2 years, 11 months ago

                            Thanks fella, just what I needed to hear...............

                      7. Weeb Kakashi
                        • 8 Years
                        2 years, 11 months ago

                        Cavani nailed on to start the next 2/3?

                      8. RAFA THE GAFFA
                        • 7 Years
                        2 years, 11 months ago

                        Pick one from each for bench boost. Second one will be benched most other weeks...

                        Lacazette or Cavani
                        ASM or Saka

                        1. kennethrhcp
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 13 Years
                          2 years, 11 months ago

                          laca
                          saka

                          1. #Swish41
                            • 13 Years
                            2 years, 11 months ago

                            This

                            1. kennethrhcp
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              • 13 Years
                              2 years, 11 months ago

                              a buddy just bought the class plain white, round neck, thistle hotels Leeds jersey with Yeboah 21 on the back.

                              always loved that jersey growing up

                              1. #Swish41
                                • 13 Years
                                2 years, 11 months ago

                                Yea, what a kit! I like your buddy 🙂

                                1. kennethrhcp
                                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                  • 13 Years
                                  2 years, 11 months ago

                                  i should just said the 1 in your pic & saved myself some typing 🙂

                        2. Corgz Dark side of the Loon
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 8 Years
                          2 years, 11 months ago

                          Laca and Saka for me mate.

                      9. FCSB
                        • 8 Years
                        2 years, 11 months ago

                        Play who (have Mendy GK):

                        1. Rudiger (BHA)
                        2. Holding (FUL)

                        Thanks

                        1. #Swish41
                          • 13 Years
                          2 years, 11 months ago

                          Tough. Probably still Rudiger, just! Both good options

                        2. kennethrhcp
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 13 Years
                          2 years, 11 months ago

                          very hard call... all in on Chels maybe?

                      10. #Swish41
                        • 13 Years
                        2 years, 11 months ago

                        All good to BB this?

                        Mendy
                        Coady Shaw Rudiger
                        Son Salah Lingz Bruno
                        Kane(c) Nacho Bamford

                        Forster Jota Dallas Phillips

                        1. #Swish41
                          • 13 Years
                          2 years, 11 months ago

                          PS - leading my MLs and rivals have used all chips. 34 could have slightly better fixtures but I like the idea of being able to focus on 12-13 for the final few games...

                          Cheers for any feedback!

                        2. Corgz Dark side of the Loon
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 8 Years
                          2 years, 11 months ago

                          Very nice team, whats your OR ?? and yes I would play BB with that bench...........especially as Forster may lose his place again before the end of the season.

                          1. #Swish41
                            • 13 Years
                            2 years, 11 months ago

                            Thanks man, hovering around 20k, so top 10k is probably a tough ask...

                        3. kennethrhcp
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 13 Years
                          2 years, 11 months ago

                          forster gonna play is my only Q

                          1. #Swish41
                            • 13 Years
                            2 years, 11 months ago

                            Agreed, realistically a 2 pointer against Spurs anyway I guess?

                      11. Weeb Kakashi
                        • 8 Years
                        2 years, 11 months ago

                        Thoughts on this attack on WC

                        Salah Son Maddison Jota ESR
                        Kane Laca Cavani

                        1. #Swish41
                          • 13 Years
                          2 years, 11 months ago

                          Pretty sick!

                          1. Weeb Kakashi
                            • 8 Years
                            2 years, 11 months ago

                            No Lingard/Nacho a problem you think?

                            1. Jam0sh
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              • 11 Years
                              2 years, 11 months ago

                              Not a problem if you think that those players will score more

                            2. #Swish41
                              • 13 Years
                              2 years, 11 months ago

                              I’d prefer Nacho to Cavani myself, but you can’t have them all, especially as you will need to bench one each week...

                              1. Weeb Kakashi
                                • 8 Years
                                2 years, 11 months ago

                                I have Madders though. Could work out. Nacho Rashford also an option instead of Cavani and Maddison.

                                Cheers.

                                1. #Swish41
                                  • 13 Years
                                  2 years, 11 months ago

                                  I actually like that. I only recently realised how many points Rash has this season. Either combo could score well

                      12. Podorsky
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 14 Years
                        2 years, 11 months ago

                        Laca (Fulham) or Cavani (Burnley) for one week?

                        1. kennethrhcp
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 13 Years
                          2 years, 11 months ago

                          laca