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How to use ‘Thinking, Fast and Slow’ to make FPL decisions

A bat and a ball cost £1.10 in total. The bat costs £1 more than the ball. How much does the ball cost?

On this week’s Scoutcast, Joe raised the idea of unfairly unfashionable players; a group of players that we often overlook to our detriment. This led me to thinking about what it is that can bring us to making poor snap decisions, holding onto outdated impressions for too long and eventually back to a book I believe everyone should read.

For those unfamiliar, ‘Thinking, Fast And Slow’ is a best-selling 2011 book by Nobel Memorial Prize in Economic Sciences laureate and psychologist Daniel Kahneman. The book focuses on our decision-making and uses two characters to describe how our brains generally approach this: System 1 and System 2.

  • System 1 – is fast, automatic, exerts little or no effort and is engaged involuntarily. This makes up about 98% of all of our thinking and is the “thinking fast” of the book’s title.
  • System 2 – is slow, deliberate, effortful and must be consciously engaged. This makes up about 2% of all of our thinking and is the “thinking slow” of the book’s title.

Like physical effort, mental effort is hard. It consumes calories, puts us under stress and must be actively opted into and maintained.

If you were asked ‘What is two times two?’, you would likely find this quite straight-forwards. You probably did not even have to calculate the answer, arriving at four by instinct. You probably recognised the problem as something you had solved before and produced the answer from memory without ever having to do any mathematical calculations. You also have no control over this, the answer of four came to you whether you wanted it to or not. Not dissimilar to the famous ‘Don’t think of an elephant’, which immediately and involuntarily causes you to think of an elephant.

If you were asked, ‘What is 59 times 73?’, you would likely find this considerably more difficult. You may require pen and paper, you may have to recall multiplication methods taught to you at school and you most certainly will have to put effort in. You do have control over this one, the answer will only come about by way of you choosing to find it and will not appear otherwise. Give it a go.

  • 2×2 makes use of System 1.
  • 59×73 requires System 2.

You will likely have felt the difference between engaging each of these systems and you will almost certainly have felt the effort required when System 2 was called upon. Your heart rate will have risen, your blood pressure increased and an outside observer paying close attention may have noticed your pupils dilating. These are all sure signs of mental strain.

It is for this reason that System 2 does not get involved much in our every-day lives. It comes with a cost. Our brains prefer System 1.

Most every-day problems do not require difficult computations to solve. We have evolved to rely on System 1, in fact our survival depended on it, and it generally does a very good job. Taking the time to work out if that oncoming mammoth stampede is going to flatten us or not would have resulted in our extinction. Walking at a comfortable speed, chewing food, reading the words written here. All of these are done automatically and effortlessly by System 1. Even if System 2 has to get involved, for example in choosing where to walk, what to eat or whether to open this article, it probably quickly delegated the decision making back to System 1; I’ll walk where I normally walk, I’ll eat something I’ve eaten before, I only open articles written by Simon March.

It is also possible for something that previously required System 2 to transfer to System 1, in fact this is key to learning and mastering skills. At one point, you did not know the answer to two times two instinctively and had to work it out. That is no longer the case. Similarly, most of us are capable of a basic game of chess but almost all of us will have to give each move some thought, especially as the game progresses or competent opposition is encountered. A master chess player, however, would defeat us with very little effort at all. They are experienced to the point that recognising and responding to a vast number of chess moves is automatic. They identify the game state and deploy the required strategy from memory without having to consciously examine and determine this cause of action before doing so.

Fantasy Premier League is a game of decisions. Understanding how we make these decisions and identifying the context around those is key to success. Many of us fall into the trap of believing we are using System 2 – the thoughtful, deliberate side of our brain – for these decisions when we are in fact using System 1.

Answer this, ‘Is Harry Kane (£11.7m) a good goal-scorer?”. The answer is clearly yes. If you were asked why you answered in this way you would be able to start producing reasons such as his finishing ability, movement and impressive goal-scoring record. You did not, however, think of these reasons before you answered, the answer simply came to you instinctively. You were using System 1. When pressed, you then fact-checked with System 2. But even then, do you know what his goal-scoring record is? You may well still be using System 1. You recall he has a good record, but you probably do not know what this is without either giving it some thought, estimating from memory or looking it up. It is in this way that we can very easily believe we are making conscious, deliberate and well-reasoned decisions when we are in fact not.

This can work in our favour. If we had to look up Kane’s entire goal history before handing him the captain’s armband we would likely never make it to the deadline. It is efficient to simply know he is a good goal-scorer and use this information to inform our decisions.

However, the things we “know” are sometimes not as accurate as we think they are.

This piece opened with a question about the price of a ball:

A bat and a ball cost £1.10 in total. The bat costs £1 more than the ball. How much does the ball cost?

The answer is 5p. Over 50% of people will answer 10p.

This is not because they cannot perform relatively simple maths, it is because they did not think they needed to. They allowed System 1 to provide the answer unchecked by System 2.

10p ‘feels’ right. It is roughly the correct magnitude and we know that £1 plus 10p is £1.10. So, we accept 10p as the answer, assuming that the bat is £1. However, the difference between 10p and £1 is 90p, not £1, and so this cannot be the answer.

When we allow System 2 to re-examine the question, we arrive at 5p. The bat costs £1.05. The total amount and the difference between the bat and the ball are both satisfied by this answer.

Many Fantasy managers may tell you they make decisions because they “feel right”, and like crossing the road, chewing or reading, these decisions will often come off without issue. Some managers may be lucky enough to draw parallels with the chess master, where they can make the correct Fantasy decisions without having to engage in the amount of effort the rest of us do. This may be due to a particular aptitude for the game, a successful strategy or a long history of making and storing these decisions, their outcomes and the relevant evidence in memory.

However, as the bat and ball problem illustrates, we cannot and should not allow our decisions to be made on instinct alone, unchecked by more vigorous examination.

The ways in which we can fall foul of this are often described by means of cognitive biases. These are shortcuts that allow System 2 to opt out and rely on System 1 to make our decisions.

Some of these biases are well-known in the FPL community: recency bias, confirmation bias, the availability heuristic and so on. I would like to explore these in further detail another day, but for now let’s return to the inspiration for this, Joe’s original observation regarding unfairly unfashionable players.

These are players that we often assign to the ‘ignore’ category. This is System 1 taking something that “feels right” and allowing it to make our decisions for us.

The most common faulty assumption that leads to this is price: expensive players are good, inexpensive players are not. While this generally holds true, as players with strong points histories and positive prospects are priced more highly than those without, this is not the case for every player and thus can lead to us missing good opportunities.

Players may have been mis-priced or undergone a significant change in fortunes since they were initially priced. As the season progresses and we move further away from that point, this factor becomes less and less correlated with actual quality. This goes for both selecting a player, eg. Matej Vydra (£4.8m) and Rob Holding (£4.2m), and captaining a player, eg. Jesse Lingard (£6.5m) and Ilkay Gundogan (£5.9m).

The second-most-common of these is holding onto beliefs that were once accurate but have since been proven to be otherwise. First impressions are a big thing and it takes a lot to change them. Paradoxically, once we have then changed these we find it equally hard to adapt again, assuming that because we have now found the ‘correct’ answer, that will continue to hold true.

Patrick Bamford (£6.5m) is a great example of both of these. The Leeds forward had a reputation in the Championship over being poor in front of goal despite a high volume of chances. This was proven accurate by the data and his record. It was not unreasonable to carry this understanding forwards into this season. However, he began the 2020/2021 Premier League campaign with three goals in three matches. This quickly became six in six. The data did not point to this being unreasonable, despite his previous under-performances on the same metrics. Those who identified and adapted fastest to this reaped the best rewards.

However, Bamford now only has four goals in sixteen matches since Gameweek 16. He has accumulated a number of assists in this time, which has helped to keep his points ticking over and perhaps lull those still holding him into believing he has continued his early season threat. Once again, this decline in attacking output has been backed up by the numbers. Leeds have become more defensively solid and less threatening going forwards, with Bamford himself seeing a significant reduction in his previously impressive statistics. As before, those that identified and adapted to this quickly have benefited the most, with Bamford scoring just three goals and delivering two assists in his last ten matches. With improved fixtures from Gameweek 34, could we be due one more shift in his fortunes before the season ends?

It is in these scenarios that we need to engage System 2 and interrogate our System 1-led assumptions, either proving them to be accurate or learning some new information, perhaps a shift in underlying numbers or a tactical switch, that allows us to assess a player in a new light and, eventually, become the chess masters of the FPL world.

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  1. LewanGOALski
    • 12 Years
    2 years, 11 months ago

    Lingard taken off injured?

    1. Silecro
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 11 months ago

      Hammy

    2. diesel001
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 11 months ago

      Yes

    3. Ksimparomenos
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      2 years, 11 months ago

      Was it an injury? It looked to me as a cramp. Any word from Moyes?

      1. @ocprodigy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        2 years, 11 months ago

        Moyes just said cramp

  2. Pukki Blinders
    • 4 Years
    2 years, 11 months ago

    Another 1 pointer from Wilson, so much for a differential. Get out of my team absolutely pathetic

  3. Sandy Ravage
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 11 months ago

    TOON TOON!

  4. Jebiga
    • 11 Years
    2 years, 11 months ago

    Do you think Fabio Silva can start tonight and do something ?

  5. anish10
    • 13 Years
    2 years, 11 months ago

    Would you WC this team, still got BB to use.

    Martinez Button
    Aina Cancelo Coufal Veltman Dallas
    Fernandes Salah Jota Son Lingard
    Kane Nancho Bamford

    1. Jebiga
      • 11 Years
      2 years, 11 months ago

      No wc, good team, take a -4 only

  6. OverTinker
    • 5 Years
    2 years, 11 months ago

    What happened to the big double he week in 35? Is it still on??

    1. OverTinker
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 11 months ago

      *gameweek

      1. Jebiga
        • 11 Years
        2 years, 11 months ago

        They saying slight chances, but nothing can surprise me anymore

        1. OverTinker
          • 5 Years
          2 years, 11 months ago

          I need to play FH. And if there is no big double game week left then I may use it in 33

          1. Thomas Magnum
            • 8 Years
            2 years, 11 months ago

            Wondering this also mate

  7. Cheeto__Bandito
    • 3 Years
    2 years, 11 months ago

    Are Lingard owners really celebrating 7 points and an injury LOL. Thats like me shouting about my Coady 6 pointer later and him hobbling off

    1. OverTinker
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 11 months ago

      He could have injured without scoring 7 points or isn't it??

    2. S.Kuqi
      • 11 Years
      2 years, 11 months ago

      8* points and I'm celebrating

    3. Thomas Magnum
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 11 months ago

      I’d rather 7 points becoming 3 when I inevitably have to sell him for -4 than 2 points becoming -2 lol

      1. Cheeto__Bandito
        • 3 Years
        2 years, 11 months ago

        coady is getting at least 6 and he'll probably pop a header in too

        1. Nanoelektronicar
          • 9 Years
          2 years, 11 months ago

          I have Coady too, but that's just wishful thinking what you're doing here

          1. Cheeto__Bandito
            • 3 Years
            2 years, 11 months ago

            Most nailed on clean sheet in my life and I dont have to waste a transfer taking anyone out!

            1. Nanoelektronicar
              • 9 Years
              2 years, 11 months ago

              You just jinxed it haha

              1. Cheeto__Bandito
                • 3 Years
                2 years, 11 months ago

                Na relax

        2. Thomas Magnum
          • 8 Years
          2 years, 11 months ago

          Don’t doubt it but don’t get too ahead of yourself, could pull a Dawson...

    4. FantasyClub
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 11 months ago

      Seems like someone is a little Salty they haven’t been reaping Lingards returns lol

      1. Botman and Robben
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 11 months ago

        This

  8. GROBARI
    • 3 Years
    2 years, 11 months ago

    Numbers of injuries this season is scary...

  9. Pep Roulette
    • 6 Years
    2 years, 11 months ago

    Lingard? Hammy?

    1. Thomas Magnum
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 11 months ago

      Seems it, definitely not good for Kane and Lingard owners with only 1 FT

      1. Tango74
        • 3 Years
        2 years, 11 months ago

        And that’s with just 2 games gone ,who next lol

        Time to whop it out

        The WC

        1. Thomas Magnum
          • 8 Years
          2 years, 11 months ago

          Good luck with it mate, I used it last week myself with the intention to bring in Kane, paid dividends the first week but now it’s biting me haha

      2. FourLokoLeipzig
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        2 years, 11 months ago

        Well, less of an issue than it usually would be, as you’d be benching Kane for his blank anyway - so they can just remove Lingard this week

        1. Tango74
          • 3 Years
          2 years, 11 months ago

          Like Kane , have lot of value tied up on Lingard.

  10. Lemongrab
    • 14 Years
    2 years, 11 months ago

    Really interesting article

    1. Haa-lala-land
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 11 months ago

      It's just a shame the comments rarely address these thought provoking articles, instead straight to RMT, g2g?

  11. Mweene
    • 10 Years
    2 years, 11 months ago

    Safe to say I would have taken 18 points from Coufal, Bowen and Lingard at half time...

    1. Mweene
      • 10 Years
      2 years, 11 months ago

      17*

  12. S.Kuqi
    • 11 Years
    2 years, 11 months ago

    Pukkiparty is back!

    Hopefully under 7.0 start of next season

    1. Nanoelektronicar
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 11 months ago

      6.5 is fair price imo

      1. Qaiss
        • 8 Years
        2 years, 11 months ago

        And about 60% of the game owning him? No thanks

        1. Nanoelektronicar
          • 9 Years
          2 years, 11 months ago

          They reduced the price of forwards this season significantly to make them more attractive. Ings and Jimenez started at 8.5. Championship strikers all started at 6.0 and less iirc. If that continues, can't see him being more than 6.5 - 7.0 max.

  13. seewhyaxe
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 11 months ago

    Any reason why Masuaku didn’t play? I bboosted with a fat 0 from him.

    1. Thomas Magnum
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 11 months ago

      Slight injury, expected to be back next week

      1. seewhyaxe
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 11 months ago

        Oh shucks I just saw it. Thanks so much.

        Was blind

        1. Thomas Magnum
          • 8 Years
          2 years, 11 months ago

          Sounds he was a big loss today. On the plus side for you he should now come right back in the side and be nailed on after that.

  14. diesel001
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 11 months ago

    England will take Lingard to the Euros, but he has consistently proven himself not to be good enough. He did this at Man Utd too. Would go on these hot streaks and everyone would say he is a top player etc. and would then inevitably come down.

    Hopefully England take Foden, Grealish, Rashford and Sancho for the wide slots and Kane and one of Bamford or DCL for the forward position.

    Sterling should not be in the squad either.

    1. sk24
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 11 months ago

      Mount

      1. diesel001
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 11 months ago

        Mount should go, IMO. As one of the central midfielders. Thing with Mount and Rashford is they can fulfil more than one position too. You can play Mount in the front three and Rashford as a centre forward if players get injured.

        But you know that Southgate will choose Sterling and Lingard.

        1. Hazz
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 6 Years
          2 years, 11 months ago

          Don't worry, Mount is 100% on that plan already as long as he's fit.

    2. Hy liverpool
      • 10 Years
      2 years, 11 months ago

      Sterling is better than most of them.. I would even start him

    3. Thomas Magnum
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 11 months ago

      He goes and does nothing there’ll be a frenzy. He doesn’t go and England get knocked out early there’ll be a frenzy of people asking why he wasn’t there...

    4. BoleynWin
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 11 months ago

      You can’t drop Sterling entirely, he’s one of 2 or 3 players in the entire squad selection that could pop up with a hatrick on his day. He’s gone off the boil at City but has played well for England, he’ll be in the mix.

      Jesse has more than earned his place within the squad this season, although I would view him as an impact substitute behind Foden etc as you say.

      1. diesel001
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 11 months ago

        Raheem Sterling at tournaments (World Cups and Euros) = 12 games, 0 goals, 1 assist.

        1. @persecuted_by_mods
            2 years, 11 months ago

            We've had a succession of crap managers and tactics though, that said Southgate might just be the crappest

          • BoleynWin
            • 6 Years
            2 years, 11 months ago

            10 goals in 15 appearances during qualifying, I haven’t delved into his assists either.

            If your argument is stat based at competitive international level then we’d be struggling to put a starting 11 out as the vast majority of English players have massively underperformed for years.

            I follow England home and away each tournament and trust me when I say the disappointment has been huge, this Euros & Germany 2024 I genuinely believe we’ve got a cracking chance though.

            1. Haa-lala-land
              • 3 Years
              2 years, 11 months ago

              Sterling was just so poor to watch against Chelsea on the TV yesterday, there is something wrong there. The amount of times he lost possession was eye catching. I'm sure he's a good player, but in lousy form for much of this season.

    5. Enzo the Baker
      • 10 Years
      2 years, 11 months ago

      Is this -4 team enough for GW33 or do I need to FH?

      Martinez
      TAA Rudiger James Holding Veltman
      Salah Bruno Jota Lingard
      Iheanacho

      1. TorresMagic™
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 14 Years
        2 years, 11 months ago

        What's the FH team look like?

    6. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      2 years, 11 months ago

      Last Man Standing safety score currently 35

      https://www.livefpl.net/LMS

      1. Botman and Robben
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 11 months ago

        That is real high.

        1. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 14 Years
          2 years, 11 months ago

          Kane(c) + Lingard + Son gets you close.

      2. pingissimus
        • 5 Years
        2 years, 11 months ago

        See what you meant now about teams with chips in hand winning through at the end.

        1. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 14 Years
          2 years, 11 months ago

          Need to still be involved to get the advantage. Don't except many FH next GW.

        2. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 14 Years
          2 years, 11 months ago

          Don't expect too many chips left, will have a look when it drops below 80 left next week.

      3. I Must Break You
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        2 years, 11 months ago

        123 players, 122 Kane captainers (40 3C). 1 on Son.

        1. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 14 Years
          2 years, 11 months ago

          Yep, 1 BB and 1 WC also.
          The Son captainer could easily make it 🙂

          1. I Must Break You
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 5 Years
            2 years, 11 months ago

            Fun, I'm the lone BB. Didn't notice that.

            1. TorresMagic™
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • Has Moderation Rights
              • 14 Years
              2 years, 11 months ago

              Right on the safety score, the extra 3 players should get you through.

      4. I Must Break You
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        2 years, 11 months ago

        Can we talk about the fact that there are two teams called Victor Moses Lawn currently on 46 points in LMS? Is that a coincidence or did one of them actually steal the name from the other? If so, why? Was that name so good that you just had to have it too?

    7. dee_top
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 11 months ago

      Guys, who is the best replacement for Neto? 7.6 INB
      Already have Lingard and Jota

      1. KAALI_DAAL
        • 3 Years
        2 years, 11 months ago

        Trossard. Nice fixtures coming up.

      2. The Ilfordian
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        2 years, 11 months ago

        Been wondering the same thing. Maddison, Saka or Bowen? Maybe Mount but not easy fixtures. ASM and Pereira have form but tough matches. I’m interested in Pogba but pretty sure it’s a bad idea.

      3. BoleynWin
        • 6 Years
        2 years, 11 months ago

        Greenwood’s my punt

      4. Thomas Magnum
        • 8 Years
        2 years, 11 months ago

        Maybe Raphinha even?

    8. KAALI_DAAL
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 11 months ago

      I think i broke Lingardinho

    9. Ruinenlust
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 11 months ago

      Lingard looks like Deeney

    10. gooberman
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 11 months ago

      Imagine still not owning Lingard!

      1. Pukki Blinders
        • 4 Years
        2 years, 11 months ago

        Imagine bragging about owning an injured player!

    11. Pukki Blinders
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 11 months ago

      Lingard owners luck finally ran out...

      Noble goes off and a pen 2 minutes later that Lingard takes... the week on week luck is ridiculous. Now I can sleep easy at night.

      1. Holmes
        • 10 Years
        2 years, 11 months ago

        Jam is real

        Did he get injured?

        1. Pukki Blinders
          • 4 Years
          2 years, 11 months ago

          Whispers of a hammy

      2. BoleynWin
        • 6 Years
        2 years, 11 months ago

        If you put as much energy into your planned transfers as you do slating players you don’t own for weeks on end, you might just start climbing the ranks...

        1. Pukki Blinders
          • 4 Years
          2 years, 11 months ago

          Besides Lingard who am I slating lol

    12. diesel001
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 11 months ago

      Well done to Norwich.

      Big advantage for them now is that they can commit to getting their PL signings in now. Being able to target players in mid-April is significant when there are clubs in the PL who won't commit (as they are still not sure if they are staying in the PL) and clubs in the Championship who also can't commit (as they aren't sure they are going up).

      1. S.Kuqi
        • 11 Years
        2 years, 11 months ago

        Proper Cb, new gk and alternative for Pukki in case he gets injured. Also more pragmatic tactical approach and they'll do just fine

        1. tambourineman
          • 9 Years
          2 years, 11 months ago

          Norwich have been more pragmatic this season than their previous promotion season, controlling matches and winning 1-0 or 2-0 rather than getting last minute goals for 3-2 wins which characterised much of the 2018-19 season. Fewest goals conceded shows that.

          Don't see GK as an area they'll be investing in, CB yes - it was the biggest problem last season with constant injuries and although the Gibson and Hanley partnership has done well, they need competition.

          Keeping hold of Buendía and the DM position (can they get Skipp back on loan for another season?) are most critical for me.

      2. BoleynWin
        • 6 Years
        2 years, 11 months ago

        They’ve got a handful of decent players which will be interesting FPL assets next season.

        From a footballing point of view though there was similar hype last time they were promoted & that quickly faded, they’d have to invest heavily to stand a decent chance of survival.

      3. pingissimus
        • 5 Years
        2 years, 11 months ago

        They'll be hampered like everyone else by lack of funds for transfers but you're right it helps that they can plan ahead, I expect this to be a really really quiet summer transfer window. All the clubs will have made stupendous losses this year and will be down to the bare bones financially. Players will not be getting pay rises when they move clubs - wages will be down for sure.

      4. @ocprodigy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        2 years, 11 months ago

        If they’re smart they’ll target the long list of Crystal Palace players becoming free agents

    13. Mr. O'Connell
      • 11 Years
      2 years, 11 months ago

      Feel lucky that Dawson only got -3 on BB. Could have been so much worse.

      1. Thomas Magnum
        • 8 Years
        2 years, 11 months ago

        I still question why brought in Dawson over Veltman on WC... you dodged a bullet though

        1. Hazz
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 6 Years
          2 years, 11 months ago

          Brighton defensive form is okay but the fixtures to season-end are terrible.

          At least Dawson has goal threat and some okay fixtures.

          It just doesn't help players like Rice, Cresswell, Masuaku, Antonio etc have been out. Makes the games way more open

          1. Thomas Magnum
            • 8 Years
            2 years, 11 months ago

            Yes, Quite. Was hoping for goals but was never brave enough to start him but was happy enough with a 90 minute starter coming off the bench, Veltman has a great gw33 fixture though. Mightn’t matter now may have to play FH as I have him, Kane and Lingard

        2. Mr. O'Connell
          • 11 Years
          2 years, 11 months ago

          Everyone's an expert these days

      2. Ruinenlust
        • 6 Years
        2 years, 11 months ago

        You had Dawson on BB?

      3. Pukki Blinders
        • 4 Years
        2 years, 11 months ago

        Better hope your other 3 score more than 1 point each then

        1. Mr. O'Connell
          • 11 Years
          2 years, 11 months ago

          I don't think they'll play.

    14. Igz08
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 11 months ago

      Kane © + Lingard + Son = red arrow. love it don't ya

      1. TorresMagic™
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 14 Years
        2 years, 11 months ago

        Green for me but I have a low rank 🙁

        1. Igz08
          • 6 Years
          2 years, 11 months ago

          I figure around 50k is the cut off for Kane captain points gain

            1. Igz08
              • 6 Years
              2 years, 11 months ago

              Wow!

        2. Jebiga
          • 11 Years
          2 years, 11 months ago

          Which rank you're about ?
          I'm sitting on 450k, enoying the season 🙂

      2. Hazz
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        2 years, 11 months ago

        Tiny red for me, but that's with the -4 included.

      3. Nanoelektronicar
        • 9 Years
        2 years, 11 months ago

        Gameweek starts tonight imo, all up until now was defensive battle.

        1. Igz08
          • 6 Years
          2 years, 11 months ago

          All eyes on Coady!

          1. Nanoelektronicar
            • 9 Years
            2 years, 11 months ago

          2. @ocprodigy
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 10 Years
            2 years, 11 months ago

            Semedo to bag instead...

      4. bitm2007
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        2 years, 11 months ago

        Small green for me at 200k

    15. Tango74
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 11 months ago

      How did coufal get assist for a handball??

      1. TorresMagic™
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 14 Years
        2 years, 11 months ago

        Did he handball it?

      2. Big boy Bowen
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 11 months ago

        Should be Soucek assist, as if it weren’t for his noggin the defender wouldn’t have hand balled it

    16. wulfrunian
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 11 months ago

      Is Lingard's injury serious?

      1. Tango74
        • 3 Years
        2 years, 11 months ago

        Poss hamstring

    17. Tango74
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 11 months ago

      So GW33 most people were hoping to bench Kane, Son, city def but now maybe Lingard and who know with rest of game week ? Coady ?

      1. Holmes
        • 10 Years
        2 years, 11 months ago

        Will probably still bench them, Dallas to the rescue

      2. Thomas Magnum
        • 8 Years
        2 years, 11 months ago

        Was hoping to bench them but might have to make a -4, will have to watch the price changes to see whether my hand will be played

      3. bitm2007
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        2 years, 11 months ago

        Not sure if its making the decision to FH or not easier for hard. If they are out long-term I'm going to have to get rid of them either way, and I'll loss more TV if I wait two GWs. Short-term gains against long-term pain.

    18. A. PRISE
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 11 months ago

      Moyes: "I think it was just cramp but I have not had a chance to speak to the physio but I don't think it was too bad."

      1. Thomas Magnum
        • 8 Years
        2 years, 11 months ago

        So... is he telling us the truth or pulling our legs hmmm

        1. @persecuted_by_mods
            2 years, 11 months ago

            It looked like a bad cramp, people don't try to stretch out a hamstring like that they normally just walk or get carried off

            1. Thomas Magnum
              • 8 Years
              2 years, 11 months ago

              Really hope this is the case, not only for our FPL sides but for West Ham and Lingard himself. League is much better with them both firing.

      2. CrouchDown
        • 11 Years
        2 years, 11 months ago

        Dawson first on bench is going to make the next 5 days loads of fun

      3. Jimmy Boy
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 11 months ago

        I need at least two from Alonso, KDB and Gundo to get minutes in order to stop Dawson and his -3 from coming off my bench...gonna be a long old gameweek this one

        1. @persecuted_by_mods
            2 years, 11 months ago

            Think you'll be okay this time