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Toney brace, Shaw return date and Antonio runs riot: FPL pre-season notes

We round up more pre-season friendly action involving Premier League teams in our latest Scout Notes piece.

We previously looked at six-top flight teams who took part in warm-up matches on Saturday and now we turn our attention to half a dozen more: Brentford, Manchester United, Southampton, Watford, West Ham United and Wolverhampton Wanderers.

We’ll have the goal, assist and line-up information from all these games plus brief Fantasy Premier League-centric notes on each clash.

Don’t forget to check out our comprehensive pre-season page for more information on the warm-up matches taking place ahead of Gameweek 1.

FPL pre-season: Trossard hits hat-trick from wing-back role 1

QUEENS PARK RANGERS 4-2 MANCHESTER UNITED

  • Goals: Jesse Lingard (£7.0m), Anthony Elanga
  • Assists: Facundo Pellistri, Shola Shoretire

MATCH HIGHLIGHTS

Luke Shaw (£5.5m), Jadon Sancho (£9.5m) and Harry Maguire (£5.5m) won’t be back in full training with Manchester United until the beginning of August, Ole Gunnar Solksjaer confirmed on Saturday.

The United boss was asked about his international contingent and their post-tournament breaks, with some players back on the grass today but others still a week away from a return:

Many will join in training on Monday so they’ve got their catch-up, a few weeks. That’s unfortunately the way it is, every year where there is a tournament, we have to catch up and hopefully they’ve done the work we’ve told them to do when they’re away.

The English players and Fred, the ones who went all the way to the finals in the Copa America and the Euros – they needed a longer break. They’ll be back with us in about 10 days’ time.

Shaw is also recovering from broken ribs but is confident of a swift comeback and his services may well be needed on the opening day against Leeds, with Alex Telles (£5.0m) set to be out for a “few weeks”.

Solskjaer said of the Brazilian:

Unfortunately, Alex slipped and he twisted his ankle so he’ll be out for a few weeks. We’re hoping that it’s not going to be too bad but he’ll be out for a little while.

United were demolished 4-2 by QPR on Saturday but any concern at the unexpected scoreline is eased with one glance at the Red Devils’ line-up, with Aaron Wan-Bissaka (£5.5m) and Mason Greenwood (£7.5m) the only real first-team regulars who were in action at Loftus Road.

Returning loanee Jesse Lingard (£7.0m) laid down a marker in the absence of Bruno Fernandes (£12.0m), slipping United into an early lead before Solskjaer’s troops shipped on four occasions.

Lingard was deployed in the hole of United’s customary 4-2-3-1, with Greenwood once again leading the line.

Anthony Elanga curled home a late consolation for the visitors, who should have a few regulars back when they host Brentford in midweek.

Manchester United XI: Heaton (Grant 46), Wan-Bissaka (Galbraith 65), Mengi (Bernard 79), Tuanzebe (Fish 79), Williams (Hugill 79), Andreas (Levitt 65), Matic (Garner 46), Pellistri (Mata 46), Lingard (Hannibal 65), James (Elanga 46), Greenwood (Shoretire 65).

CELTIC 2-6 WEST HAM UNITED

Toney brace, Shaw's return date and Antonio runs riot: more FPL pre-season notes 1
  • Goals: Michail Antonio (£7.5m) x2, Mark Noble (£4.5m) pen, Said Benrahma (£6.0m), Jarrod Bowen (£6.5m), Armstrong Oko-Flex
  • Assists: Noble, Pablo Fornals (£6.0m) x2, Antonio, Benrahma

MATCH HIGHLIGHTS

Having failed to make too much of an impression in West Ham’s first two warm-up games of the summer, Michail Antonio (£7.5m) burst into life at Celtic Park on Saturday.

Exploiting the hosts’ high defensive line and error-strewn display, Antonio had fired a warning shot across the Celtic bows when racing clear and forcing a save out of Vasilis Barkas.

The mid-price FPL forward didn’t need another sighter, subsequently latching onto a Mark Noble (£4.5m) pass to round Barkas and then dinking a finish past the Greek shot-stopper to double his tally.

Antonio was then flattened for Noble’s 38th-minute penalty and ‘assisted the assister’ for Said Benrahma‘s (£6.0m) second-half strike, which was teed up by Pablo Fornals (£6.0m).

The forward reinforced Noble’s standing as first-choice penalty-taker after the game before going on to hail his teammates’ goalscoring form in pre-season:

I definitely did want it but obviously when the skipper is on the field there is only one person taking it!

But the boys are out there scoring goals – Jarrod has got quite a few goals in pre-season so hopefully he can carry that on into the season, Said had been struggling to get on the scoresheet last season so it’s good he’s got on the scoresheet this season already.

One thing we definitely need this year is goals from a lot of different players.

David Moyes echoed Antonio’s sentiments:

All the main players are beginning to get goals and you want them to get the confidence because we want to keep doing what we did last year. I thought we were exciting to watch, we were entertaining at times, but while we’re doing that we also need to make sure we’re good enough at the other end. We conceded two today and we could have conceded a couple more on another day so we need to make sure we tighten that up. 

Pre-season results sometimes count for very little but exciting going forward and less than watertight at the other end was pretty much how the Hammers ended 2020/21: they were ranked joint-second for goals scored from Gameweek 29 onwards but kept just one clean sheet throughout that run.

Jarrod Bowen (£6.5m) has been West Ham’s star performer of the summer and has caught the eye with some advanced shooting positions. Having earlier seen a one-on-one opportunity saved, he bagged his fourth attacking return in three games with a beautifully flicked finish to put West Ham 5-2 up.

Former Celtic man Armstrong Oko-Flex rounded off the scoring in Glasgow.

Lukasz Fabianski (£5.0m) made his first appearance of pre-season but Tomas Soucek (£6.0m) and Vladimir Coufal (£5.0m) were still absent after their EURO 2020 exertions.

West Ham United XI: Fabiański (Randolph 46), Fredericks, Dawson (Alves 77), Ogbonna (Diop 5), Cresswell, Noble (Forson 87), Lanzini (Coventry 66), Bowen (Holland 87), Fornals, Benrahma (Oko-Flex 77), Antonio (Johnson 72).

WATFORD 1-3 BRENTFORD
WATFORD 0-0 WEST BROMWICH ALBION

  • Goals: Henry Wise pen | Ivan Toney (£6.5m) x2, Halil Dervişoğlu (£5.5m)
  • Assists: Sergi Canos (£5.5m)

MATCH HIGHLIGHTS (WATFORD V WEST BROM)

Watford split their squad across two pre-season friendlies on Saturday, with the weaker of the two matchday parties – featuring three trialists – downed by Brentford at the Hornets’ training ground in an untelevised encounter.

Ivan Toney (£6.5m), who still sits in more than one in three FPL squads, was responsible for two of the Bees’ three strikes, first heading home a Sergi Canos (£5.5m) cross and then firing in a free-kick.

The chance of a hat-trick went begging in the second half when he spurned a one-on-one opportunity but substitute Halil Dervişoğlu (£5.5m) added a third for the visitors before Watford responded with a late penalty.

Kristoffer Ajer (£4.5m) made his Bees debut and there may have been a signal as to Thomas Frank’s intentions in 2021/22 as the newly arrived ex-Celtic stopper took his place as one of three centre-halves in a wing-back system.

The Brentford website reported that Ajer got into a number of attacking positions, suggesting he may have license to roam from that back three this season.

There was again no Bryan Mbeumo (£5.5m), who also missed the win over Boreham Wood last Tuesday for unexplained reasons.

Watford drew a blank in their other match but budget forward Cucho Hernandez (£5.0m) really caught the eye on the left of Xisco’s front three, teeing up a handful of chances for his teammates and attempting the spectacular himself with two bicycle-kicks.

A misfiring Ismaila Sarr (£6.5m) wasted the best of those opportunities when completely shanking an effort from eight yards out but was at least continually getting into promising positions, also forcing a save after the interval and seeing a strong shout for a penalty waved away.

Watford XI v West Brom: Foster (Elliot 46), Ngakia (Abbott 75), Troost-Ekong (Langston 75), Cathcart (Hall 75), Masina (Trialist 7), Etebo (Wise 75), Gosling (Smith 75), Cleverley (Mebude 46), Sarr (Pochettino 60), Deeney (King 60), Hernández (Crichlow 60).

Watford XI v Brentford: Bachmann (Dahlberg 46), Trialist (Trialist 80), Sierralta (Trialist 63), Kabasele (Langston 46), Rose (Andrews 63), Louza (Muwonge 70), Lo-Everton (Smith 70), Sema (Wise 46), Baah (Crichlow 70), Fletcher (Hunter 70), Dennis (Mebude 70).

Brentford XI: Raya (Gunnarsson 60), Ajer (Racic 46), Goode (Stevens 60), Pinnock (Russell 60), Canós (Dervişoğlu 60), Baptiste (Haygarth 60), Janelt (Oksanen 60), Thompson (Gordon 60), Ghoddos (Valencia 60), Toney (Forss 60), Fosu (Roerslev 46).

REAL BETIS 0-1 WOLVERHAMPTON WANDERERS

  • Goal: Patrick Cutrone
  • Assist: Nelson Semedo (£5.0m)

MATCH HIGHLIGHTS

Rayan Ait Nouri (£4.5m) had another ‘out of position’ run-out down the left wing on Saturday as Bruno Lage marked his first win as Wolves boss.

Lage tweaked his formation from a 4-4-2 to a 4-2-3-1, with Fabio Silva (£6.0m) benched and a sharp-looking Raul Jimenez (£7.5m) leading the line.

The Mexican was denied a one-on-one shooting opportunity thanks to a particularly horrendous offside call, while Ait Nouri caught the eye going forward – although again, the imminent return of Adama Traore (£6.0m) will mean that Lage soon has more natural options available to him down the flanks.

Wolves lost Willy Boly (£5.0m) to an early injury but we did see a number of their assets make their pre-season bows, including Jose Sa (£5.0m) and Nelson Semedo (£5.0m).

It was an advanced Semedo who teed up the only goal of the match, crossing for Patrick Cutrone to finish in the final 10 minutes.

Wolves were in action again on Monday, taking on Las Palmas – and we’ll have notes on that game tomorrow.

Wolves XI: Ruddy (Sa 46), Hoever (Semedo 46), Boly (Kilman 17), Saiss (Otasowie 76), Marcal (Mosquera 60), Perry (Neves 46), Moutinho (Marques 60), Gibbs-White (Cundle 60), Trincao (Silva 60), Ait-Nouri (Bueno 76), Jimenez (Cutrone 60).

SOUTHAMPTON 1-1 FULHAM

  • Goal: Shane Long
  • Assist: Michael Obafemi (£4.5m)

MATCH HIGHLIGHTS

Southampton’s first pre-season involvement saw them draw a behind-closed-doors friendly with Fulham on Saturday.

New signing Romaine Perraud (£5.0m) got his first run-out in Ralph Hasenhuttl’s usual 4-2-2-2 set-up, with FPL midfielder Nathan Tella (£5.0m) deployed ‘out of position’ up top in the first half.

Moussa Djenepo (£5.5m) was used at left-back after the interval, showing his naivety in that position when giving away a spot-kick but impressing going in the other direction.

Shane Long tapped in Michael Obafemi‘s (£4.5m) cut-back for the Saints’ only goal, with the former joined by Danny Ings (£8.0m) in a front two for the second half.

Southampton first-half XI McCarthy, Walker-Peters, Stephens, Salisu, Perraud, Romeu, Ward-Prowse, Walcott, Elyounoussi, Tella, Adams.

Southampton second-half XI: Forster, Valery, Bednarek, Salisu (Olufunwa 77), Djenepo, Diallo, Armstrong, Obafemi, Redmond, Long, Ings.

619 Comments Post a Comment
  1. Whazza
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    2 years, 9 months ago

    So I tried to fit in Salah, Bruno, Trent and Son. Too unbalanced?

    Sanchez
    TAA Coufal Fofana
    Salah Bruno Son Smith-Rowe
    Antonio Toney Watkins

    4.0 Brownhill Ayling 4.0

    1. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      Had a similar one. Looks nice.

      1. Whazza
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        2 years, 9 months ago

        Quite keen on it, could get stuck with ESR though and maybe Toney. But at their prices they would need to be massively disappointing to be bad value

    2. Boxwoods
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      Looks good, actually.

      1. Whazza
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        2 years, 9 months ago

        🙂

        1. Boxwoods
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 6 Years
          2 years, 9 months ago

          I’ve got Raph and 6.0, 5.0 defenders in place of your ESR, Trent, and 4.5, but tough to prognosticate on which slate beats the other.

          1. Whazza
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            2 years, 9 months ago

            Sounds good as well! It's probably sensible to start with Raph. I guess rough opening fixtures is the only viable reason not to include a Leeds attacker, but they attack every game tbh

            1. FPL Brains
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • Has Moderation Rights
              • 12 Years
              2 years, 9 months ago

              Looks very good.

    3. Bruin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      Son without Kane not the same player. Kane may stay but probably won’t start GW1. I like Son but too big a risk esp playing City GW1. Ayling is 4.5. How do you plan for bringing in Kane if going to City?

      1. Hits from the Bong
        • 5 Years
        2 years, 9 months ago

        Aren't Son's stats better when he's been played up front in Kane's absence?

        1. chocolove
          • 13 Years
          2 years, 9 months ago

          Agree with this

      2. chocolove
        • 13 Years
        2 years, 9 months ago

        Are you sure?
        He replaced Kane at striker position when Kane was injured.
        And he excel at that spot whenever the manager give him the chance
        I'm looking at him once Kane leave. He has all the set piece and pens on his locker as well.

        1. Fletch69
          • 2 Years
          2 years, 9 months ago

          Agreed, Son is a great bet if Kane goes.

          Good team Whazza has put up. I'd go Robbo for TAA and upgrade ESR to Harrison for the Leeds attacker.

          I'd also ditch Fofana, not a good fantasy asset. Veltman maybe (has better ppq stats)

  2. Drip Doctor
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    2 years, 9 months ago

    How many goals are you expecting Toney to hit this season? Looking at Watkins, he hit 25 for Brentford, moved to a better side in the PL and hit 14.

    1. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      15 + 5, something like that

    2. Avery
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      Watkins didn't have people passing to him when Grealish was out. (IMO)
      for Toney I'd say mid teens.

    3. Big dog
      • 2 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      Would be surprised if he gets 15. Do teams with a 15 goal a year striker go down?

      1. Nomar
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        2 years, 9 months ago

        Yes.

        Austin got 18 for us the season we dropped.

        1. chocolove
          • 13 Years
          2 years, 9 months ago

          Still remember the fond memories of having him in my team.

        2. Big dog
          • 2 Years
          2 years, 9 months ago

          The exception

        3. pingissimus
          • 5 Years
          2 years, 9 months ago

          Nothing

          Johnson scored 21 for Palace

    4. diesel001
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      10 goals, 5 assists, 35 appearances.

      1. Big dog
        • 2 Years
        2 years, 9 months ago

        1. Big dog
          • 2 Years
          2 years, 9 months ago

          More realistic

    5. Bruin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      Ings, Wilson, Wood scored 12, Rashford & Mane scored 11 last year how can you expect Toney who plays for a promoted side score more? Great if he does but common sense says he might score similar to Antonio’s 10 goals at best

      1. Steve The Spud
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        2 years, 9 months ago

        Ings, Wilson and wood are always injured, rashford couldn’t finish his dinner - if Toney stays fit then it’s not crazy to think he can score 15 goals

        1. Fletch69
          • 2 Years
          2 years, 9 months ago

          He is the out and out striker for an attacking Brentford side + on penalties.

          I think 15 + 5 from 35 is a good bet. Will pick up a few yellows though.

          Reckon he's good for 140 to 150. Bamford was new to the league last year and got over 190, Watkins over 160. Not unreasonable.

        2. Bruin
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          2 years, 9 months ago

          100% not crazy but it is at best a huge gamble thinking that he will out score recognised premier league players coming from a promoted side.

          1. Fletch69
            • 2 Years
            2 years, 9 months ago

            Why?? Bamford did, Watkins did, Pukki did for the start of the season the year before.

            Happens all the time, certainly for the first half of the season. Before they get dragged into the relegation dogfight misery

            1. bunk_medal
              • 14 Years
              2 years, 9 months ago

              Citing players that did it while ignoring all those who didn't isn't a great way to judge probabilities. And even then, Watkins moved to a mid-table Premier League side while Leeds had a world-renowned manager and had just stormed the Championship. Neither are particularly good comparisons with Toney.

              I would say Pukki is the optimistic projection (139 points) but he could just as easily end up like Mitrovic last season - who was the main striker from the playoff winner, was also on penalties, and was also talked up last summer by several people on here as a cheap option. He's a low ceiling, high risk option and just not worth it for me when at 1 million more there are players like Antonio.

      2. Kristobal
        • 12 Years
        2 years, 9 months ago

        Maybe because he is the focal point in Brentfords attacking while Pool and Man U got other attacking alternatives in Salah, Mané, Jota, Fernandes, Greenwood and now Sancho also?

    6. J ⚒ Gimme ur Mané
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      I think he’ll score 8-10 goals.

      Most of his goals come from the creativity of his team mates, crosses which he taps mops up.
      I don’t think Brentford will be given the freedom to freely put balls into the box for him the way they did in the championship.

      Hope I’m proved wrong, but I’ll be sticking with a front three of Watkins, Wilson and Nacho/Antonio.

      1. Fletch69
        • 2 Years
        2 years, 9 months ago

        To be honest I would if they were the same money, but think it's worth the risk for the saving

  3. Zoostation
    • 9 Years
    2 years, 9 months ago

    How is this team looking?

    Sanchez (Steele)

    TAA Shaw White Ayling Omobamidele

    Salah Fernandes Havertz Raphinha Gilmour

    Wilson Watkins Toney

  4. BENOIT
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 9 months ago

    What do people think of Jota and Cancelo this season?

    Part of me thinks they are going under the radar.

    1. Whazza
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      Class players but not nailed on unfortunately

    2. Big dog
      • 2 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      I like both

      Cancelo may suffer from rotation but shouldn't come on late in game.....so would need good bench.

    3. Bruin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      Having them as regular starters would be amazing. Not sure for GW1 that I will take the risk

    4. J ⚒ Gimme ur Mané
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      I think Cancelo is a lot more nailed than people realise, a pep favourite.

      I’m buying him for GW2.

  5. Warby84
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 9 months ago

    Martinez
    TAA Coufal Digne
    Pepe Salah Son Raphinha
    Wilson Watkins Antonio

    Foster Ayling Brownhill 4.0

    Martinez Son Wilson
    Or
    Sanchez Fernandes Toney

    Thoughts on draft.. Pepe is a massive punt

    1. Bobby Digital
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      SFT

  6. chocolove
    • 13 Years
    2 years, 9 months ago

    Henderson anyone?
    With varane incoming, their defense will be tighter, right?

    1. Bobby Digital
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      I've gone for Hendo. Think he's underpriced if he nails that spot down.

      1. chocolove
        • 13 Years
        2 years, 9 months ago

        My thought as well.
        Will get a playing GK for his back up tho
        Varane obviously cost us more than 5m

  7. PrestigeWorldwidewidewide..…
    • 4 Years
    2 years, 9 months ago

    So if Ait Nouri is continually being deployed in midfield, and it's not necessarily likely that he will continue in that role once the more regularly fielded mids return to the squad such as Podence, Neto, Traore, does that not seem to indicate he is second choice as a fullback or he would be getting more game time at that position in preseason? Or am I interpreting that wrong?

    1. chocolove
      • 13 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      The new jonny or new vinagre mind you, every season we have one

      1. chocolove
        • 13 Years
        2 years, 9 months ago

        In addition to this. Last season we have vinagre that in the pre-season touted to fill that LB spot. He didnt get the minutes, even with the same manager (Nuno)
        Now, it's a new manager at the helm, wait and see for me.
        They even have Marcal as his competition for the spot as well

        1. PrestigeWorldwidewidewide..…
          • 4 Years
          2 years, 9 months ago

          Yea this is making me start to question his viability. If going for wolves, Coady may be the more boring but more reliable choice for your money @ 4.5.

  8. Kristobal
    • 12 Years
    2 years, 9 months ago

    Best 7,5 forwards?

    1. Big dog
      • 2 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      Nacho and wilson

    2. Dynamic Duos
      • 10 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      Watkins and Antonio

      1. Paqueta Rice
        • 3 Years
        2 years, 9 months ago

        Watkins and Antonio

        1. Whazza
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          2 years, 9 months ago

          Watkins and Antonio

    3. Runnerboy31
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 2 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      Watkins Wilson for me

    4. Whiskerz
      • 10 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      Nacho and Watkins

      1. Boxwoods
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        2 years, 9 months ago

        This

        1. Fletch69
          • 2 Years
          2 years, 9 months ago

          Watkins and Antonio are the more secure options.

          Wilson and Nacho have better stats. But I think Wilson will miss half the games due to injury. Not sure Rodgers knows what to do with Nacho when Maddison and Barnes are fit

          1. Hits from the Bong
            • 5 Years
            2 years, 9 months ago

            So which 3 do you pick?

            1. Boxwoods
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 6 Years
              2 years, 9 months ago

              Any 3. Swap as needed.

            2. Boxwoods
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 6 Years
              2 years, 9 months ago

              But Watkins seems to hit the sweet spot of being nailed, durable, and a proven performer from last season.

          2. Boxwoods
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 6 Years
            2 years, 9 months ago

            Antonio is a world beater on his day. Never seems to be able to keep it up long term though. If nacho starts losing mins, he can be swapped for one of the others.
            I’m keen to see if Jimi can get back to his steady best!

            1. Fletch69
              • 2 Years
              2 years, 9 months ago

              Jimi is an interesting differentiator. A lot of the Wolves flare is unavailable though. Jota gone, Neto injured, Traore going....

              1. Boxwoods
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 6 Years
                2 years, 9 months ago

                Definitely a wait and see for now.

  9. The Legend Squad
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    2 years, 9 months ago

    I’m extremely tempted to go with a weak bench to facilitate having this back 4... essentially 4 midfielders with clean sheet potential.

    Thoughts?

    Bachmann
    TAA Robbo Digne Shaw
    Salah Fernandes Raphiana
    Nacho Watkins Toney

    Foster Manquillo Bissouma Johnson

    1. Whazza
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      Looks good on paper. Weak bench is not popular during covid times

      1. Whazza
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        2 years, 9 months ago

        Could get Coufal over Digne? (9A last season) + better defence than Eve? To get the 0.5 needed to afford a 4.5 def

        1. Fletch69
          • 2 Years
          2 years, 9 months ago

          What Whazza said, I think you may need a sub 20+ times over the season. Might as well have one that can score the odd point or two

    2. Runnerboy31
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 2 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      Interesting choice of 6 defenders in your squad 🙂

      1. The Legend Squad
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        2 years, 9 months ago

        Good spot 😉

        Johnson is Brownhill!!!

  10. diesel001
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 9 months ago

    Why the love for West Ham defence (particularly Coufal and Cresswell)?

    Did well last season, but weren't playing European football and will be given more respect this season by opposition given their prior season high finishing position.

    1. Paqueta Rice
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      Decent fixtures and both have potential at both ends of the pitch. Cresswell on some set pieces too. Good manager who seems to be improving them. Let’s see how Europe effects them.

    2. Hits from the Bong
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      No European games til September, Coufal still an assist monster, decent fixtures

  11. Paqueta Rice
    • 3 Years
    2 years, 9 months ago

    Has this team too many enablers or too much funds spread?

    Henderson
    Trent, Robertson, Tierney
    Salah, Bruno, Buendia, Sarr, Smith-Rowe
    Watkins, Antonio

    Begovic, Reguillon, Ayling, Davis

    1. Thomas Jerome Newton
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      I'd say put more money in your starting 11.

  12. Runnerboy31
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 2 Years
    2 years, 9 months ago

    Thoughts - Mane likely to be first transfer out but couple of week punt and easy to get to other premiums.

    Sanchez (4m)
    TAA Digne Villa 5m (Ayling 4m)
    Salah Mane Barnes / Maddison ESR (4.5m)
    Watkins Bamford DCL

    1. Whazza
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      Really nice! Shaw over Digne if he's fit imo

      1. Runnerboy31
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 2 Years
        2 years, 9 months ago

        Purposefully avoiding all late arrivals so no euro or copa finalists to begin with, and Digne presumably gets a lot of set pieces now

        1. Runnerboy31
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 2 Years
          2 years, 9 months ago

          Admittedly DCL is an exception but Everton with out Gylfi or Richy probably need him immediately

    2. Steve The Spud
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      Quite like the mane punt

  13. Steve The Spud
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 4 Years
    2 years, 9 months ago

    Spuds making some good signings

    We’re guna win the league!

    1. pingissimus
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      Didn't realise you were taking it seriously - thought the focus was on the Europa Conference

    2. diesel001
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      Unlikely to win the league but should be challenging for a CL spot and not finish outside the Top 6. A lot of good creative players (Lo-Celso, Doherty, Aurier, Sessegnon, Reguilon, Winks) and attackers (Son, Kane, Bergwijn, Moura), but have not been melded together to create a 'team'.

    3. Whiskerz
      • 10 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      -Cup. Possibly.

  14. Denniezy
    • 3 Years
    2 years, 9 months ago

    Sanchez
    Robbo - Digne - Shaw
    ESR - Madders - Salah - Bruno
    Watkins - DCL - Antonio

    Foster - Dallas - Duffy - Omo

    1. Denniezy
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      ESR - Dallas or Raphinha - Bissouma ?

  15. Hits from the Bong
    • 5 Years
    2 years, 9 months ago

    Template as hell, but think it will do for now?

    Sanchez (Foster)
    TAA Digne Shaw (Ait-Nouri Manquillo)
    Salah Bruno Raphina Buendía (McArthur)
    Antonio Iheanacho Watkins

    1. AriseSirGiggsy
      • 13 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      Swap manquilo for Williams in case shaw isn’t fit for gw1

      1. Camzy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        2 years, 9 months ago

        And potentially lock yourself out of triple United? Don't like it.

        1. Hits from the Bong
          • 5 Years
          2 years, 9 months ago

          Agreed. Do you think I should swap one of the strikers for Wilson, I've been swapping them about all day

          1. Fletch69
            • 2 Years
            2 years, 9 months ago

            Not with your bench, he always gets injured

            1. Hits from the Bong
              • 5 Years
              2 years, 9 months ago

              True, but so does Antonio. Maybe it's worth owning them while they are fit

              1. Fletch69
                • 2 Years
                2 years, 9 months ago

                That'll be about 20 minutes into the first half for Wilson 😉

  16. AriseSirGiggsy
    • 13 Years
    2 years, 9 months ago

    Liverpool’s first 2 fixtures are PLUM
    And Mane’s natural alternatives - Bruno, KDB, Son - all have difficult fixtures
    Can move to them after the international break after GW3
    Salah is locked. I prefer Robbo to Trent.

    Convince me that doubling Mane and Salah isn’t a good idea…

    1. Paqueta Rice
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      It’s certainly a good idea. I have Trent and Robertson currently with Salah though

      1. AriseSirGiggsy
        • 13 Years
        2 years, 9 months ago

        There’s nothing wrong with that per sae, I just want the funds available in midfield

    2. pingissimus
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      Is Jota the natural alternative to Mane though?

      Firmino won't be around early and in any event I saw someone say he played 70% of available minutes last season in any event.

      1. AriseSirGiggsy
        • 13 Years
        2 years, 9 months ago

        Probably / Possibly
        But I don’t fancy the risk for GW1-3

      2. Kristobal
        • 12 Years
        2 years, 9 months ago

        Sounds good.
        He is in my team

    3. Hits from the Bong
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      Go for it. Just noticed Mane got less ppm than Callum Wilson, that's quite surprising

      1. AriseSirGiggsy
        • 13 Years
        2 years, 9 months ago

        Sounds like you need to pick Calum Wilson
        And why not? His ppg is excellent

    4. Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      Preferring Robbo to Trent makes no sense statistically.

      Mane is 12m and takes no set pieces. He doesn't offer another captaincy either.

      1. AriseSirGiggsy
        • 13 Years
        2 years, 9 months ago

        Robbo v Trent = similar numbers, but Trent is 0.5 more
        Has a defender ever cost 7.5? Baines and ivanovic were 7.0

        Mane not a captain option if Salah is fit, but since I have Salah in the draft as well I don’t need to worry

        1. Fletch69
          • 2 Years
          2 years, 9 months ago

          Robbie and Trent do have similar numbers. Trent slightly ahead on ppq but Robbo less injury prone so generally the same over the season.

        2. Rasping Drive
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          2 years, 9 months ago

          Wasn’t Baines 8.0m one season? Or was that Vidic? Either way, there have been defenders that cost 7.5 or more, although granted not a regular thing.

      2. stamboy
        • 10 Years
        2 years, 9 months ago

        unless he scores a couple of course!

      3. stamboy
        • 10 Years
        2 years, 9 months ago

        wasn't Trent the same 7.5 last season?

  17. Elskied
    • 3 Years
    2 years, 9 months ago

    Has anyone tried a more in depth strategy, playing players who often come up against the more likely bottom 5 teams? ok, you wont have Salah every week, he'll miss games against like top half teams, but your whole team will 95% of the time be playing bottom half teams? Wondering if this strategy could scalp an extra few hundred points come end of the season?

    Thoughts?

    1. Thomas Jerome Newton
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      It's what you aim for if going by fixtures but don't have enough transfers to get your sort of % I think.

  18. Elskied
    • 3 Years
    2 years, 9 months ago

    For example, my keeper rotation (in no particular order)

    WAT; bur; nor; BUR; pal; BRI; sou; wat; NEW; BRE; wat; BRE; sou; NEW; WOL; LEE; lee; bre; SOU; bre; LEE; new; WAT; SOU; west; LEE; wol; new; LIV; bur; NOR; bur; PAL; mci

    the rest of my team for the whole season is similar, I only come up against I think.

    to put it into perspective... if someone holds De Bryne from GW 1, to GW 11 - they will face 5 red fixtures.
    my whole team, from GW 1 to GW20, come up against 6 red fixtures.. in total

    1. gwitbrock
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      9.5 is categorically too much to spend on keepers in the current FPL climate, too much option elsewhere and you need to be ready to jump on whoever emerges. Especially considering whichever keeper you play you are looking at a difference of 20-30 points total max over the season.

      RE De Bruyne, there are certain players and teams that transcend the fixture consideration and you will do yourself a disservice over the course of a season deciding not to own a good player in a good team because they have a tough fixture run. This is something that has not changed since this game started.

      1. Elskied
        • 3 Years
        2 years, 9 months ago

        I've got one or more of the following in each Fixture, Salah, Fernandez, Havertsz, Jota, Gundogan, Son, Kane (more often than not, more than one) Son & Kane come in on week 12.

        Stikers: Aub, Kane, Bamford, Cavani, DCL, Antonio, Watkins, Jiminez,

        I'm not playing half decent players against half decent teams everyweek....The good players, against the bad teams.

        So an example, GW 12, 13, 14...I wont have Salah against Arsenal, Southampton & Everton... but I will have Kane, Son, Bamford, Watkins & Havertz against the likes of Brentford, Palace, Brighton x2, Palace x2, Watford.

        1. gwitbrock
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          2 years, 9 months ago

          OK well I guess the main piece of advice I'd give you is to absolutely not plan for the whole season at this point. Plan for a chunk of 4-6 games with half an eye on future fixtures and contingency plans

          1. Elskied
            • 3 Years
            2 years, 9 months ago

            I appreciate the advise. I have planned the whole season, but fully aware things could change within a couple of weeks and I'll just work on team management and adjust accordingly.

      2. Elskied
        • 3 Years
        2 years, 9 months ago

        Also, my keepers are 10.5 lol... but they come across the top 5/6 teams 3 times only. A Brighton keeper double up, you're coming across them 20 times.

        1. gwitbrock
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          2 years, 9 months ago

          You said your keeper fixtures were Watford at home and Burnley away no? I figured from that it was Sanchez/Meslier. 10.5 is for sure too much, no question. Not going to pay off from a points per million perspective.

          1. Elskied
            • 3 Years
            2 years, 9 months ago

            Nah, fixture's are in no particular order.

            It's Villa/Wolves combo.

            1. Elskied
              • 3 Years
              2 years, 9 months ago

              in response to your points per million, I'ma try something different with my strategy and go for points per position.

              1. Elskied
                • 3 Years
                2 years, 9 months ago

                Thinking about it...I'm probably gna miss out on a lot of points, as I'll only have certain players for a few games...trying to hit moving targets really...

    2. stamboy
      • 10 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      interesting but I'm guessing takes a lot of planning and then what happens when a spanner hits the works with a team over/under performing not based on your expectation, e.g. West Ham. Leicester last year or perhaps Arsenal....

  19. In a Rush
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 9 months ago

    I think I’m settled on this (for tonight)

    Sanchez
    Taa white@ars digne
    Salah raphina sancho son Esr
    Watkins Antonio

    Foster J Pedro reguilon ayling

    1. AriseSirGiggsy
      • 13 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      Sancho probably won’t start against Leeds IMO

    2. stamboy
      • 10 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      lol, loce your tonight comment.

  20. 03farmboy
    • 4 Years
    2 years, 9 months ago

    Best attacking defender? Not from the big teams

    1. Well you know, Triffic
      • 13 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      Regulon

      1. stamboy
        • 10 Years
        2 years, 9 months ago

        Qualuty remark!

        1. stamboy
          • 10 Years
          2 years, 9 months ago

          my typing has gone haywire, not an example of quality spelling

    2. Hits from the Bong
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      Digne Coufal Cresswell Ayling Ait Nouri Tierney Lamptey Reguillon

      1. 03farmboy
        • 4 Years
        2 years, 9 months ago

        Thanks would you consider Doherty? Or firpo

    3. Fletch69
      • 2 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      Coufal

    4. Gross Blank Point
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      Thomas

      1. 03farmboy
        • 4 Years
        2 years, 9 months ago

        Do you reckon Tomas will be nailed though?

        1. Gross Blank Point
          • 3 Years
          2 years, 9 months ago

          He's in my draft at the moment, has been the stand out in their last two friendlies, I think he's playing himself into being first pick
          If he's not then I'll swap him, but I really think he could be a stand out this season, quick price rise

          1. 03farmboy
            • 4 Years
            2 years, 9 months ago

            I guess we will have to see if he starts in the community shield if so looks good

    5. Netley Lucas
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      Coufal or Cresswell then Digne.

  21. HollywoodXI
    • 9 Years
    2 years, 9 months ago

    Buendia or Sarr for fourth mid spot?

    1. Kristobal
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      Buendia

    2. Pops15
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      I'm current starting with both. I think they will both be great value picks over the season. To start though I think Buendia looks great for the first 3 while Sarr looks much better the first 10 or so fixtures. Something to keep in mind when picking between the two

  22. Kristobal
    • 12 Years
    2 years, 9 months ago

    A) Tierney

    B) Coufal

    C) Targett

    1. nolard
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      tough

      b c a

  23. GoodFella93
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 9 months ago

    Any obvious reasons as to why this is crazy?

    I'm tempted to go with just Salah as my premium pick... Atm I have Salah and Bruno but really don't feel like I need Bruno in there. Especially with Man Utd players coming back so late and their fixtures not being anything unmissable until GW15.

    With just one premium pick I can take proper FPL assets in all 13 other outfield positions. I can jump on those early value packed bandwagons and I can rotate who I play to get the best of the fixtures. Obviously benching proper assets can be painful but it should really be par for the course. So what if you bench someone who gets 10 points... The fact is that's your game plan and no one else will have such a good spread of assets - piling their money into the poor value premiums instead. Ok I may have 10 points from Raphinha on my bench but over the season you'd think having a spread of the best value players is going to win out regardless of points left on the bench, which is ultimately an irrelevant yard stick.

    Of course I get the argument about captaincy but Salah looks good for captaincy for GW1-6, he could easily bag against Chelsea (H).

    Finding it hard to go for it with just Salah but it's crazy how much money you get. Suddenly there's not a single compromise. You can get all the players you want, with ease and freedom. In fact, you have too much money.

    It's human nature obviously to feel we need to spend the full £100m to have a chance of winning, but it seems to be that it's also human nature to avoid the psychologically difficult job of deciding which three proper assets to bench and then the inevitable pain that will come when benched assets outscore starters.

    I just can't help but wonder if the player that takes the leap to go with just one premium at any one time and to be benching proper assets without worrying will have the advantage for collecting points from the best value players each week, whilst be super well insulated against injuries and unforeseen absences or postponements.

    1. Elskied
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      It is a marathon, not a sprint.

      1. GoodFella93
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 9 months ago

        That's kind of my point re: not being so precious about leaving points on the bench and having a robust af rotating squad.

    2. Netley Lucas
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      I dunno, all the top players seem to have rubbish benches.

    3. OPTA FPL
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      How does it look?

    4. RogDog_jimmy
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      I’d like to see your team in this instance.

      However I’m a little confused about what you say about Man U fixtures. They’re too 5 in attacking for the first 8 weeks - maybe not against promoted teams but good solid games.

      1. Elskied
        • 3 Years
        2 years, 9 months ago

        I'm doing something similar.

        Martinez / Sa
        Godfrey / Chillwell / Coufal / Ait Nouri / Doherty
        Salah / Jota / Saka / Iwobi / Grealish
        Watkins / Cavani / Antonio
        3m iTB

        1. Elskied
          • 3 Years
          2 years, 9 months ago

          other than Liverpool playing CHE in GW3 ... The only 'challange' any of the other players come up against in the first 4 game weeks is Leicester...and that's Westham playing them at home..

      2. GoodFella93
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 9 months ago

        Something like this:

        Sanchez / 4.0

        Trent / VVD / Shaw / Digne / Firpo
        Buendia / Raphinha / Salah / Harrison / Greenwood
        Watkins / Anontio / Jiménez

        £0.0m ITB

      3. GoodFella93
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 9 months ago

        1 LEE (H) - Ok it's at Old Trafford but it's against a Leeds side that will finish 6th-9th for my money. A Leeds side with a full six weeks of Bielsa's preseason under their belts, who'll be fully fit, firing and raring to go. I can easily see Man Utd not being quite ready for this one.
        2 SOU (A) - Solid team away from home
        3 WOL (A) - Solid team away from home
        4 NEW (H) - Fantastic fixture
        5 WHU (A) - Top half team away from home
        6 AVL (H) - Top half team at home

        Of course they ARE good fixtures overall... I'm tempted by Cavani and if I do go without Bruno then I will take Greenwood but it's just when I think about Bruno @ £12m, I don't see them as "unmissable" fixtures, as I worded it.

        I don't know. It's just the thought of the premiums being bad value and therefore if you can get away with only have 1 for any period of time, perhaps you should.

        I guess my point boils down to why spend £16.5m on two players: Bruno, a 20 points per mil (at best) player and a 4.5m striker who's getting 0 points per mil and offering nothing. When I can instead spend around £13-14m on two players achieving closer to 30 points per mil.

        Ok clear answer is that Bruno allows me to get £12m on the pitch in one position so even with the lower value he'll still going to get more points on the board for me than the duo that I have to rotate - and that's before thinking about captaincy. BUT by going without Bruno or any 2nd premium, at least just for the opening weeks, I get the opportunity to invest in 13 "proper" FPL outfielders rather than just 10 or 11. It allows me to set my marker down on all the players I think will be part of the early surge in value. It also means I'm very robust against injuries and suspensions so my transfers can be focused on early season value building.

    5. Collie01
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      I was thinking something similar. Perma cap Salah for most of the opening fixtures. Something along these lines:

      Sanchez
      TAA, Shaw, Digne, Chilwell
      Salah, Mahrez, Jota
      Watkins, Antonio, Iheanacho

      (4.0, Raphinha, Ayling, Gilmour)

    6. FPL Theorist
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      Seems like something I've seen done more often with people playing WC around GW3, getting in all the bandwagons including on their bench with the aim to maximise team value. A few people seemed to have done really well with it early last season and achieved obscenely high team values, but I'm not sure any of them managed to keep up the success until the end.

  24. Malcolm Tucker
    • 2 Years
    2 years, 9 months ago

    Is Sancho worth it? Does Chelsea's defence need covering?
    Buendia or Harrison? Wilson or Watkins?
    With VVD and Gomez seemingly out for the start of the season, is the double Liverpool defence wishful thinking?

    many questions, many answers, I bloody love fantasy;

    Meslier
    TAA - Robbo - Shaw
    Salah - Raphinha - Buendia - Sancho
    Wilson - Iheanacho - Antonio

    Foster - Coufal - Brownhill - Omobamidele

    1. Denniezy
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      Meslier -> Sanchez
      Buendia -> Madders
      Wilson -> Watkins
      Iheanacho -> DCL
      Coufal -> Ayling

      1. Amartey Partey
        • 4 Years
        2 years, 9 months ago

        Coufal got 9 more assists than Ayling last season. Just saying.

    2. 03farmboy
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      Personal not a fan of the Liverpool defence
      Don’t need Harrison if you have Raphinha
      I like both Wilson and Watkins can see them both scoring a lot hard to pick between them

      1. 03farmboy
        • 4 Years
        2 years, 9 months ago

        I meant double Liverpool defence just pick the one to cover it

      2. Malcolm Tucker
        • 2 Years
        2 years, 9 months ago

        thanks mate,

        It's hard to figure out if my attachment to double Liverpool defence is emotional or logical (I'd happily stack Robbo at 7mill up against his midfield competitors) and this Konate lad looks a hell of a player, but it has been a long time since the two full-backs have consistently returned the faith

        Agree with you on Wilson and Watkins I am finding it hard to decide, Watkins has the fixtures plus Grealish (atm) and Buendia sending goodies his way - Wilson is a bit more of a differential whom acts as the talisman for his side, plus I hear whispers of Ross Barkley heading to the north-east, if that is at all true then Barkley, ASM and Fraser mean Wilson's supply lines are looking tasty

        perhaps it's a coinflip and a scream at the gods when the one I don't pick inevitable bags a brace

        1. 03farmboy
          • 4 Years
          2 years, 9 months ago

          If Barkley goes Newcastle I might try get Watkins and Wilson both in but then means dropping iheanacho or Antonio so it’s a hard choice I think

      3. GoodFella93
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 9 months ago

        Personally I don't get "you don't need Harrison if you have Raphinha".

        If Harrison is better value than Raphinha, then you'd rather Harrison. If both prove to be the best value 6-6.5m players this season, then you'd rather both.

  25. Denniezy
    • 3 Years
    2 years, 9 months ago

    League & Cup Codes:
    aozuh & 1b3ppt

  26. Mossy Pebble
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    2 years, 9 months ago

    Opinions on this?
    Meslier 4.0
    TAA Robbo Veltman (Lamptey if fit) Fofana, Holding
    Salah Fernandes Barnes Raphina ESR
    Antonio Watkins 4.5

    Trying something a bit different with a 4-4-2 and ESR as an optional 5th midfielder for 3-5-2 options. Barnes is a risk and not having three strikers feels it could be too but I just see TAA and Robbo offering so much value.

    1. Netley Lucas
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      Trent & Robbo does not exclude a nice 3-4-3 though, try it, it might surprise you.

      1. Denniezy
        • 3 Years
        2 years, 9 months ago

        Sanchez
        Robbo - TAA - Shaw
        Salah - Sancho - Raphinha - Madders
        Watkins - DCL - Antonio

        Foster - Ait-Nouri - Gilmour - Omo/Hoever/Duffy

        1. Netley Lucas
          • 8 Years
          2 years, 9 months ago

          Not bad, now try one without Sancho, pop Bruno in.

          1. The FPL Units
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            2 years, 9 months ago

            Sanchez – 4.0
            TAA – Robbo – Coady/4.5 – White (Ars) - Omo
            Bruno – Salah – Gundo* - Harrison* - Brownhill
            Watkins - Toney – Nacho

            *13.5 mil to muck around with

            1. Netley Lucas
              • 8 Years
              2 years, 9 months ago

              This is fine, you can muck around with 12.5 for M3 & M4 and bump D3 to Digne/Shaw.

  27. Amartey Partey
    • 4 Years
    2 years, 9 months ago

    Are people expecting too much of TAA and Robertson this season?

    We don't know if VVD has properly recovered or will even start the season. Their new CB signing is very injury-prone and untested in the PL too.

    1. Netley Lucas
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      321 in a bad season. 423 when both peaked(dif seasons). VVD back? Split the spread? About 372? 14.5m? VORP? lol

      1. Amartey Partey
        • 4 Years
        2 years, 9 months ago

        True. Although a big chunk of that is surely because they play so many minutes? Creswell, for instance, played less minutes than Robertson last season and almost scored the same amount of points. Or Digne for that matter would have probably scored more points if he had more minutes? I'm just wondering if they are really worth the extra 2 million.

        1. Netley Lucas
          • 8 Years
          2 years, 9 months ago

          They're not worth it at the 321 level, it's around 4.1ppm. Personally I think they can knock at the 400 door. VVD & crowds, a return to form.

          1. GoodFella93
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 7 Years
            2 years, 9 months ago

            I feel like VVD & Trent > Trent & Robbo

            Trent, Robbo, and VVD all have similar points totals in seasons gone by and if you have VVD alongside one of the full backs, at least you know VVD will always play.

            Also I'd happily place a bet that VVD is fit and ready for the season opener. Can't see them setting sail without him to set to the tone for the season.

    2. Denniezy
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      Robbo with/without VVD

  28. Coaly
    • 11 Years
    2 years, 9 months ago

    Any way to improve this?

    Sanchez
    TAA Shaw Coufal
    Salah Bruno Raphinha Harrison
    DCL Watkins Iheanacho

    (Gunnarsson Fofana Coady Bissouma)

    Shaw would be Digne if he won’t recover for GW1. Iheanacho I expect to feature heavily initially at least

    1. Denniezy
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      Bench:
      Foster - Ait-Nouri - Ayling/Lamptey - Biss

      1. Coaly
        • 11 Years
        2 years, 9 months ago

        More competition for Ait Nouri no? Think he continues to start regularly, but not all vs Coady playing every minute

        Lamptey I think I saw won’t be ready for the start of the season

        Ayling I like but I’m not sure about Leeds fixtures early on from a defensive standpoint

  29. Alcapaul
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 3 Years
    2 years, 9 months ago

    Narrowed it down to 2 drafts for now:

    Sanchez
    Trent Robbo Targett
    Salah Bruno Buendia Raphinha
    Watkins Antonio Toney

    Foster Ait Nouri Brownhill Kelly

    or

    Sanchez
    Trent Shaw Digne Targett
    Sancho Bruno Salah Raphinha
    Watkins Toney

    Foster Ait Nouri Brownhill Obafemi

    Basically down to Robertson, Buendia and Antonio vs. Shaw, Digne and Sancho. What do you think is better?

    1. Denniezy
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      A

  30. grooveymatt65
    • 10 Years
    2 years, 9 months ago

    hey guys! this is the latest draft of my
    team:

    Bachman Foster

    TAA Digne Ayling Bednarek Johnson

    Salah Fernandes Grealish Raphinha Bissouma

    Toney DCL Wilson

    0.0 itb

    Was thinking of doing Grealish Raphinha to Sarr and Beundia.. it free's up cash and means i could get Shaw and Henderson in (if he starts)

    any ideas?

    thanks!!!

    1. Denniezy
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      Bednarek -> Taylor/Lamptey/Ait-Nouri

      Johnson -> Omobamidele/Duffy/Hoever

      1. grooveymatt65
        • 10 Years
        2 years, 9 months ago

        cool thanks

        yeah will probably change bednarek