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Dugout Discussion September 11

Son absent as Royal is handed Spurs debut

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Crystal Palace v Tottenham Hotspur, the first of eight Premier League fixtures on a busy Saturday, gets Gameweek 4 underway at Selhurst Park.

Kick-off is at 12:30 BST.

The headline team news is the absence of Son Heung-min, who Nuno Espirito Santo had intimated would miss this fixture with a calf problem picked up over the international break.

Santo makes three changes to the side that began the win over Watford in the Lilywhites’ last Premier League outing.

Steven Bergwijn is, like Son, injured, while Davinson Sanchez misses out as he needs to follow Covid-19 quarantine protocols having being involved with Colombia over the last week.

Emerson Royal comes in for his debut at right-back, while Harry Winks and Lucas Moura also start.

Patrick Vieira names the same starting XI from Crystal Palace’s 2-2 draw at West Ham United in Gameweek 3.

Summer signings Odsonne Edouard, Will Hughes and Michael Olise take their place on the bench.

GAMEWEEK 4 LINE-UPS

Crystal Palace XI: Guaita, Ward, Guehi, Andersen, Mitchell, Kouyate, McArthur, Gallagher, Zaha, Ayew, Benteke

Subs: Butland, Milivojevic, Tomkins, Olise, Hughes, Clyne, Edouard, Kelly, Riedewald

Tottenham XI: Lloris, Tanganga, Royal, Dier, Reguilon, Winks, Skipp, Hojbjerg, Alli, Kane, Moura

Subs: Gollini, Doherty, Gil, Rodon, Ndombele, Davies, Scarlett, Omole, Markanday

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  1. Boomerang V
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    2 years, 7 months ago

    And of course I got Dier in mu WC 🙁

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    1. AIRMILES
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Sod's law, innit.

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    2. The Knights Template
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      2 years, 7 months ago

      It's ok, don't worry becsuse I don't own him.

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    3. Lingard’s Shin Guards
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Same here

      Need a jammy palace goal to make me feel better

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  2. The Knights Template
    • 10 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    Thank the Lord, the ads have come on!

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    1. jia you
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      2 years, 7 months ago

      that was a hard watch as a Kane owner!

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    2. Holmes
      • 10 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Try illegal stream in 2nd half, there will be more ads 😀

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    3. Thanos
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      2 years, 7 months ago

      😆 😆

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    4. La Roja
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      😀

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  3. Tommy Tynans Left Shin Pad
    • 12 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    Just tuning in for the 2nd half - anything happening?

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    1. Khark
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      honestly, don't waste your time. horrendous

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    2. Lingard’s Shin Guards
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      save yourself

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    3. Tomerick
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Gallagher on direct free kicks and corners. Tearing it up and looking like a real option once the fixtures turn.

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    4. Eh, just one more thing ...
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Really poor. Take the dog for a walk instead.

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      1. Tommy Tynans Left Shin Pad
        • 12 Years
        2 years, 7 months ago

        May get more interesting now....

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  4. SEXY SOLO SAUCE
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    1-0 Kane penalty nailed on this game

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    1. La Roja
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Yeah nailed on

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    2. tangtastic
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      • 13 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      just put £10 on it

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  5. Khark
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    Not watching the second half. abysmal

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  6. drughi
    • 14 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    Spurs look really bad, lukaku and chelsea will run riot next week

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    1. JONALDINHO
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      2 years, 7 months ago

      That game will suit Spurs more. They seem to be a sit back / counter attack side. Will work against better teams like City but they’ll struggle against lower down sides

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      1. drughi
        • 14 Years
        2 years, 7 months ago

        I think that city game was one off, they got lucky. Chelsea will have their way with them

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        1. JONALDINHO
          • 6 Years
          2 years, 7 months ago

          Really? I thought Spurs deserved that win. They limited city to no clear cut chances and countered well

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      2. Joey Tribbiani
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        2 years, 7 months ago

        Palace has dominated, all spurs can do rn is counter attack lol

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  7. FOO FIGHTER
    • 4 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    What are the odds of Arsenal and Wolves getting wins this GW?

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    1. La Roja
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Same as Spurs scoring more than a goal per game

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    2. Khark
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      2/1 for a double with sky bet

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    3. WHUFCSmith23
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      • 3 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Arsenal to win are 2/5 (heavy favourites)
      Wolves to win are 6/5 (slight favourites)

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  8. JONALDINHO
    • 6 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    Kane is finished as an FPL asset under Nuno.

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    1. Nanoelektronicar
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Kane was finished once he stayed at Spurs, imo.

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  9. Abusive_Sgt_Daelrhos
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    • 9 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    Lol at Spurs

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  10. Paqueta Rice
    • 3 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    Just noticed Omobamidele (3.9) dropped last night. He was fantastic for Ireland over the IB off the bench v Portugal and full game against Serbia in the last match. He could get a spot in the XI at some point I reckon.

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    1. Rupert The Horse
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      • 11 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Who does he play for?

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      1. Paqueta Rice
        • 3 Years
        2 years, 7 months ago

        Norwich 😆 but still could be a playing 3.9 def eventually

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    2. Utopsis
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Love a 3.9, good stuff for my upcoming wildcard

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    3. Joker91
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Isn't he 4th choice now they have Kabak on loan?
      I started with him but switched him out earlier this week for Semedo (decided to keep Amartey as my 4m instead).

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    4. Ógie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Tough for him with Pukki around but if he was to get injured then hopefully Omobamidele will get a run.

      I was very impressed by him too.

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      1. Paqueta Rice
        • 3 Years
        2 years, 7 months ago

        Lol playing as striker? Are you confusing him with Idah? Omobamidele is a defender

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  11. thegaffer82
    • 12 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    God Spurs are awful aren’t they… I mean, not quite at Arsenal level awful, but not far off

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    1. Salarrivederci
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Reguilón looks like a decent FPL option when fixtures are good 🙂

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    2. JONALDINHO
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Arsenal will finish ahead of them imo this season

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      1. Salan
        • 14 Years
        2 years, 7 months ago

        Spurs should rank higher than 19th.

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    3. have you seen cyan
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      top of the league bud, 4 wins in 4, including vs City

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      1. Lingard’s Shin Guards
        • 5 Years
        2 years, 7 months ago

        when did spurs get their 4th win

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        1. have you seen cyan
          • 4 Years
          2 years, 7 months ago

          this game, the 3 points are basically in the bag already

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          1. Lingard’s Shin Guards
            • 5 Years
            2 years, 7 months ago

            Viera masterclass coming

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          2. dark91
            • 8 Years
            2 years, 7 months ago

            The 1st half stats would tend to disagree

            Crystal Palace - Tottenham

            Shots : 7(1) - 0(0)
            xG : 1.04 - 0.00
            Chances Created : 4-0

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    4. Salan
      • 14 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Yes, but still better than Arsenal.

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    5. Gunneryank
      • 2 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Take it easy...

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    6. Paqueta Rice
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Defensive assets will be decent in fpl terms.

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    7. Jordan.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      3d/m winks,hojberg,skipp,then moura and alli historically crap,kane just turning up for his wages,so so poor

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    8. SEXY SOLO SAUCE
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Top of the league after playing City and Wolves away…

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  12. Pedersen
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    2 years, 7 months ago

    Guys, i am wrecking this gw. 1 point already!

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    1. WHUFCSmith23
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Cant see us catching you with that mate.

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  13. Hotdogs for Tea
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    Gallagher doing what he did last season at Swansea - look good but sweet FA end product

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    1. Hazz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Literally scored twice last week 😮

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      1. SEXY SOLO SAUCE
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 7 months ago

        Won’t happen again this season

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    2. Cruyff's Eleven
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      He was at Birmingham, that's why perhaps.

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      1. Hotdogs for Tea
        • 8 Years
        2 years, 7 months ago

        WBA ? Swansea the season before

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    3. WHUFCSmith23
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Or West Brom even

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    4. Holmes
      • 10 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Must be tough playing for 2 teams at same time

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    5. Tasty Jerk
      • 11 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      lol like the 2 goals he scored last week 😀

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  14. Hazz
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    Chelsea squad ain bad is it?

    Mendy / Begovic
    Zouma /Guehi / Livramento / Lamptey / Bertrand
    Salah / Mount / KDB / Gallagher / Gilmour
    Lukaku / Bamford / Broja

    Probably some changes you could make but just a quick one 😆

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    1. SEXY SOLO SAUCE
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Where’s Alonso?! Man is a legend!

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      1. Hazz
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        2 years, 7 months ago

        Mostly omitted due to GK situation

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  15. SEXY SOLO SAUCE
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    Strange how everyone thinks Ronaldo arrival will reduce Bruno’s output.

    Yet my thinking is the opposite regardless of penalties, not sure if my way of thinking is a good differential though as I’m way too patient at times!

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    1. JONALDINHO
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Take Cavani as an example. When Bruno started alongside him ( a natural striker) his output reduced dramatically regardless of pens. Ronaldo will take all the goal threat and Bruno will be dropping deeper into wide areas. Often assisting the assister too

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      1. Paqueta Rice
        • 3 Years
        2 years, 7 months ago

        I don’t think he will drop as deep as you think. I feel Pogba will be the one to drop deep with Greenwood/Sancho out wide. Against the lesser teams anyway. Pogba deep won’t work against the best teams.

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      2. Utopsis
        • 4 Years
        2 years, 7 months ago

        Or, Ronaldo being the threat he is, attracts multiple defenders leaving more space for Bruno and Co. with their late runs into the box?

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      3. Paqueta Rice
        • 3 Years
        2 years, 7 months ago

        Agree with your analysis re Bruno and Cavani though

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      4. SEXY SOLO SAUCE
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 7 months ago

        Yet he still was the top points scorer

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  16. Cok3y5murf
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    Anyone with a Spurs asset is no threat to our ranks

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    1. Salarrivederci
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      🙁

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    2. Sim Simma
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Unless the assets are defenders

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      1. Salarrivederci
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 7 months ago

        🙂 !

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    3. Zimo
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Their Defenders will get Baps whenever they keep a clean sheet since they won't score.

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  17. jackruet
    • 2 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    Nuno is such an anti football

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    1. Paul Psychic Octopus
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      surprising choice for a Spurs manager

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  18. Bobby Digital
    • 6 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    Zaha running circles around Royal

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    1. Utopsis
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Mugging him off completely

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  19. Paul Psychic Octopus
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    Gallagher looking very good

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    1. La Roja
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Gallagherinho

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  20. Eat my goal!
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    Is it going to be a Nuno second 1/2?!

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    1. Lingard’s Shin Guards
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      I would expect nothing more

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  21. ZeBestee
    • 9 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    Glad i did Kane to Cr7 for a hit. I was muling over it all fortnight long.

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  22. Dogs Of War
    • 2 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    Gallagher is becoming an option, we just need to see where Olise plays when he starts though. Let’s see who is on free kicks/corners out of the two of them.

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  23. Tasty Jerk
    • 11 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    Been really impressed with Joachim Andersen - heard his passing for a CB is good but that ball to Zaha for the Gallagher chance. Nice.

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  24. Zimo
    • 5 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    Commentators saying reliable sources have told them Ronaldo will start.

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    1. Cruyff's Eleven
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      The brother of the bloke who shines the shoes of the bloke who sells pints in a pub near Old Trafford?

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      1. Zimo
        • 5 Years
        2 years, 7 months ago

        Might be 😉

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    2. Firminooooo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Thank god!

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    3. Weak Become Heros
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Twitter.

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    4. ZeBestee
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Yeah heard that as well, bein sports.

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    5. Lingard’s Shin Guards
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      will sources make up their mind

      one minute Cristiano's on the bench, the next he's starting

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    6. JBG
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Maybe they follow the same accounts as we do XD.

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    7. moment
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Of course he's going to start. Commercial folks at ManU would NEVER let him not.

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    8. FPL_Crisis
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      i don't think anyone would be surprised to see him start
      now if bruno can just be at the heart of all goals in the game...

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  25. FOO FIGHTER
    • 4 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    FPL

    The game which does not have any guarantees on when you play your WC, when you TC or even when you use your FH.

    Gotta love this game!

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    1. Weak Become Heros
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      All part of the fun!

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      1. FOO FIGHTER
        • 4 Years
        2 years, 7 months ago

        For sure!

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  26. Hazz
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    HT: C Palace (1.31) 0-0 (0.00) Spurs

    https://twitter.com/xGPhilosophy/status/1436665331154571266?s=19

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    1. Sim Simma
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Spurs without Son are just awful

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      1. JBG
        • 5 Years
        2 years, 7 months ago

        Weren't playing like Brazil 1970s with him in the team either tbf..

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    2. Zimo
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      My God. Wow. Tell me is that a record for a supposed top club?

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    3. OPTA FPL
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Why is xG stats different from different sites?

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      1. Hazz
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        2 years, 7 months ago

        Different models I guess?

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      2. FPL_Crisis
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        2 years, 7 months ago

        imagine some sites use Opta model, others use different data sources

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  27. Gunneryank
    • 2 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    I've never been so excited for a team sheet for a football match in my life...30 minutes...

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    1. ZeBestee
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Relax, always keep your hopes in check so that you are not disappointed.

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    2. soup natsi
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      I bet you have

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  28. It’s A Joke
    • 13 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    After reading the thread a few pages back, I wanna buy the Venezia shirt and the Ajax third kit. Anyone know where?

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    1. AIRMILES
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      You mentioned the orange column, that was last season. See here for this season: https://shop.veneziafc.it/

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      1. AIRMILES
        • 12 Years
        2 years, 7 months ago

        It's just a shame it's covered in the Krappa logo.

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        1. It’s A Joke
          • 13 Years
          2 years, 7 months ago

          I like the away one more. Thanks.

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  29. Gudjohnsen
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    My uncle is at Old Trafford. He says Ronaldo starts.

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    1. ZeBestee
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      I dont get why he won't start. Most of the things points for him to start, 95%.

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    2. Utopsis
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      My bro is best mates with the kit man's assistant. He says bench.

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    3. La Roja
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Would he said the same if he wasn’t in stadium?

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    4. CrouchDown
      • 11 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Locked in then

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    5. Hotdogs for Tea
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      what does the programme say ?

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  30. Hazz
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    Diet won't even get his owners the 0.1m profit he was so close to...

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    1. La Roja
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      I’m agree, hence I eat burgers

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      1. Hazz
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        2 years, 7 months ago

        Hehe

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    2. Gudjohnsen
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Got rid on wc

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