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Alexander-Arnold, Salah and Jota start as Liverpool visit Leeds in Gameweek 4

Gameweek 4 continues with Leeds United hosting Liverpool at Elland Road.

Kick-off is at 16:30 BST.

For Leeds, new signing Daniel James (£6.0m) is on the bench, but Raphinha (£6.5m) starts after his ban for not being released to the Brazil squad was lifted.

Stuart Dallas (£5.5m) also features despite withdrawing from international duty, while Junior Firpo (£4.8m) has recovered from COVID-19 and replaces Pascal Struijk (£4.4m) in the starting XI.

As expected, Liverpool are without the injured Roberto Firmino (£8.8m) but Virgil van Dijk (£6.5m) and Harvey Elliot (£5.5m) are fit.

Diogo Jota (£7.7m) starts in attack, while Thiago (£5.4m) replaces Jordan Henderson (£5.0m), who drops to the bench.

GAMEWEEK 4 LINE-UPS

Leeds XI: Meslier, Ayling, Cooper, Llorente, Firpo, Phillips, Dallas, Raphinha, Rodrigo, Harrison, Bamford

Subs: Klaesson, Struijk, Cresswell, Shackleton, Klich, Summerville, James, McCarron, Roberts

Liverpool XI: Alisson, Alexander-Arnold, Matip, van Dijk, Robertson, Fabinho, Thiago, Elliot, Salah, Mane, Jota

Subs: Kelleher, Konate, Gomez, Tsimikas, Milner, Henderson, Keita, Jones, Oxlade-Chamberlain

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  1. Rainer
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 6 months ago

    Such an unfortunate situation, not a red either, pure bad luck coming together.

    1. BIGREDDOG
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 6 months ago

      Yes

    2. Rupert The Horse
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      2 years, 6 months ago

      Well said

  2. Big boy Bowen
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 6 months ago

    Get well soon Harvey! Top player

    1. Paqueta Rice
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 6 months ago

      Agreed

  3. Jinswick
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    2 years, 6 months ago

    With a GW7 WC in mind, best way to find 0.4m to cover Bruno -> Salah?

    A) Kane -> 11.9 (Vardy/Lukaku)
    B) Greenwood -> 7.2 (Torres)
    C) Barnes -> 6.4 (Sarr/Traore)
    D) Antonio -> 7.3 (Pukki) [bench Veltman]

    Sanchez
    Trent, Shaw, White, Veltman
    Bruno, Greenwood, Benrahma, Barnes
    Kane, DCL

    Steele, Antonio, Brownhill, Tsimikas
    Bank 0.1m, 1FT

    1. Dexters Laboratory
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 6 months ago

      If Crystal Palace can close out Spurs I'd be leaning towards A .. Vardy with the fixtures could actually be a nice two week punt

  4. EmreCan Hustle
    • 11 Years
    2 years, 6 months ago

    Llorente injured. Struijk sent off.

    Ayling to play CB now?

    1. Collie01
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 6 months ago

      Yes

  5. Paqueta Rice
    • 3 Years
    2 years, 6 months ago

    VAR is there for a reason. What’s the point in having a box for the managers to be in if Klopp can just walk onto the field and start speaking to the ref. The red card was due to the injury as opposed to the tackle. Fee very sorry for Elliot.

  6. BobbyDoesNotLook
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    2 years, 6 months ago

    ...

  7. lilmessipran
    • 11 Years
    2 years, 6 months ago

    Why didn't they show the replay? Was it that bad?

    1. Rainer
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 6 months ago

      Yeah.

      1. Rainer
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 6 months ago

        His leg, not the tackle.

    2. Walter White (WW)
      • 2 Years
      2 years, 6 months ago

      Yes it was

    3. TomSaints
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 6 months ago

      Something was at the wrong angle

    4. Arvin-ation
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      2 years, 6 months ago

      Horrendous.

    5. Duke Silver ☑
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 6 months ago

      Who really wants to see that though? Personally hate seeing replays of leg breaks.

      1. Limbo
        • 13 Years
        2 years, 6 months ago

        ^^

    6. Hazz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 6 months ago

      Could see the leg was bent the wrong way in real time immediately. Would have looked bad close up.

      Maybe they're learning from the Eriksen incident.

      1. S.Kuqi
        • 11 Years
        2 years, 6 months ago

        That was so bizzarre.

      2. Limbo
        • 13 Years
        2 years, 6 months ago

        Eriksen wasn’t prem/British TV. Like to think/hope if it happened here it’d been handled differently.

    7. Egg noodle
      • 14 Years
      2 years, 6 months ago

      Yeah, looked more like ankle than leg to me. But yeah it was floppy/disconnected

    8. The Polymath
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 6 months ago

      Yes, his foot was at an angle.

    9. S.Kuqi
      • 11 Years
      2 years, 6 months ago

      His ankle fell off and instep pointed towards his arse.

    10. jungle
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 6 months ago

      Broken ankle - nasty injury but tackle didn't look too bad

  8. Top Lad Dakes.
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 6 months ago

    Poor kid, hope he recovers quickly and well

  9. Arvin-ation
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    2 years, 6 months ago

    Still clapping the supporters acknowledging him with a snapped leg. Most definitely the adrenaline, but what a champ.

    Hopefully a speedy and full recovery.

  10. Paqueta Rice
    • 3 Years
    2 years, 6 months ago

    That’s awful for Elliot. To be getting into that Liverpool team for 3 starts in a row at only 18 years old shows how much talent he has. Hope he comes back stronger

  11. mgilbert86
    • 11 Years
    2 years, 6 months ago

    After the ramsey break i think im good with not seeing replays

    1. Duke Silver ☑
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 6 months ago

      100%. There's been a few in the UFC recently and they're rolling 3 slow-mo replays after it happened. Can't watch that at all and can't understand why anyone would want to watch it.

      1. SADIO SANÉ
        • 8 Years
        2 years, 6 months ago

        There’s a lot worse than that people are watching on the internet

        1. Limbo
          • 13 Years
          2 years, 6 months ago

          Not a comparison

  12. Peskey
    • 3 Years
    2 years, 6 months ago

    I’m not watching this game, so don’t feel anything about the tackle

    1. bitm2007
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 6 months ago

      Hard to tell how bad the injury is even if you were watching.

      https://twitter.com/akidhariz/status/1437096518901633028?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

      Hopefully it's not a break.

    2. LC1
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 6 months ago

      Cool

    3. Danno - Emre Canada
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 6 months ago

      Cool story bro

    4. Pep bites Kun
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 6 months ago

      So why comment?

    5. Warblers
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 6 months ago

      So what? Idiot.

  13. Scots Gooner
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 6 months ago

    Sad for any player, but particularly a young one. Hope he can return from this. Ramsey did and had a good career.

  14. _Ninja_
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    2 years, 6 months ago

    Harrison off for James

    1. have you seen cyan
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 6 months ago

      If anyone gonna score for Leeds it will be James

  15. Old Man
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    2 years, 6 months ago

    The older ones amongst you might remember poor David Busst at Old Trafford in 1996. I seem to remember Peter Schmeichel threw up when he saw it.

    1. Supersonic Marv'
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 6 months ago

      He also needed counselling if I recall correctly.

    2. Del Griffith
      • 11 Years
      2 years, 6 months ago

      I remember that, was a horrific leg break alright. Probably the worst ever.

    3. grumpyman
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 6 months ago

      I went to his testimonial at Highfield Road. Cov played Utd. It was Cantona’s last game. Seem to remember he bagged a brace.

    4. Danno - Emre Canada
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 6 months ago

      Yeah terrible, with Denis Irwin and McClair I think involved in the clash

  16. Andy_Social
    • 11 Years
    2 years, 6 months ago

    I remember the David Busst injury and players vomiting at the sight of it. Never want to see that again.

    1. Gunneryank
      • 2 Years
      2 years, 6 months ago

      No kidding? Geez....

  17. Nomar
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    2 years, 6 months ago

    As an owner of Meslier, Raphina and Bamford, these last 4 weeks have not been fun at all.

    1. Egg noodle
      • 14 Years
      2 years, 6 months ago

      Always beware of 2nd season syndrome. Was sheffied United last year...

  18. Elly88 > KTR (Kevin The …
    • 11 Years
    2 years, 6 months ago

    Is Davinson Sanchez nailed for Spurs defense?

  19. Bounce
    • 3 Years
    2 years, 6 months ago

    Sky are so soft. BT showed Conor Mcgregor's leg snap is slow motion from 5 different angles.

    1. have you seen cyan
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 6 months ago

      McGregor isnt particularly liked

    2. Deulofail
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 6 months ago

      BT know the kind of sickos tuning in to MMA 😉

      1. Supersonic Marv'
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 6 months ago

        I honestly can't believe it's legal. We're not bloody barbarians are we.

    3. Harry the Hack
      • 14 Years
      2 years, 6 months ago

      people watch MMA with the bloodlust to literally see people hurt each other. It's not why we watch football

  20. Thanos
    • 2 Years
    2 years, 6 months ago

    Pool just passing sideways. Bad injury but seems neither wants to attack anymore.

    1. BIGREDDOG
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 6 months ago

      The injury and red has changed the game

  21. mgilbert86
    • 11 Years
    2 years, 6 months ago

    Leeds look super unorganized

    1. Old Man
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 6 months ago

      Now then Gilbo - disorganised please. (Apologies - I've had too much red wine)

    2. SADIO SANÉ
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 6 months ago

      Isn’t that their shtick?

  22. Paqueta Rice
    • 3 Years
    2 years, 6 months ago

    Struijk himself didn’t look too phased by the card but a bit distraught by the injury.

    1. AC/DC AFC
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 6 months ago

      Caught his ankle I think

    2. Walter White (WW)
      • 2 Years
      2 years, 6 months ago

      Yes. That’s why I think it was a bad tackle

  23. FPL Brains
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 12 Years
    2 years, 6 months ago

    Just want to show you guys something extremely freaky.

    Click the link to my team (via my profile) and have a look at this prediction.

    https://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/2021/09/10/mark-sutherns-fpl-gameweek-4-preview-and-latest-team-plans/?hc_page=15&hc_sort_by=comment_date#hc_comment_24102949

    - On target for 80 points
    - 3 x double figure players
    - 2 midfielders blanked (almost predicted it)
    - Obviously Liverpool needs to stay as is, as well as an Everton cleansheet

    1. Herman Toothrot
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      2 years, 6 months ago

      Anything about a Gray hatrick?

      1. FPL Brains
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 12 Years
        2 years, 6 months ago

        Haha I wish mate. What a pick that would turn out to be!

  24. Gunneryank
    • 2 Years
    2 years, 6 months ago

    American football fans old enough will know what i mean when i say Joe Theisman.

    1. Licky
      • 11 Years
      2 years, 6 months ago

      Or Alex Smith more recently.

      1. Gunneryank
        • 2 Years
        2 years, 6 months ago

        Oh totally, of course. At least they didn't replay it. Back in the 80's, they replayed Joe's leg break over and over. I was a kid.

  25. EmreCan Hustle
    • 11 Years
    2 years, 6 months ago

    Leeds look like the team with a man advantage.

  26. Limbo
    • 13 Years
    2 years, 6 months ago

    TAA SoT

  27. svasei - Up (?) the Rovers
    • 14 Years
    2 years, 6 months ago

    Similar tackle on Mané now. Lunges in and stops the ball dead.

  28. Khark
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 6 months ago

    Balls there to be won. Football is a contact sport, no intent, 50/50 gone wrong. Never, ever a red card.

    Speedy recovery to Elliott.

  29. Dexters Laboratory
    • 3 Years
    2 years, 6 months ago

    Sanchez
    TAA Shaw White Ayling
    Benrahma Salah Greenwood Torres
    Toney Ronaldo
    Steele Brownhill Tsmikas Antonio

    A) Antonio to Bamford / Pukki, Bench Benrahma
    B) Benrahma to Raphina
    C) Toney to Pukki / Jimenez

  30. EmreCan Hustle
    • 11 Years
    2 years, 6 months ago

    Liverpool have been ordinary in the second half.

    1. Muchentuchel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 6 months ago

      yeah how bad they are and it hasn't anything to do with a career killing injury for one of their most promising players