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Should FPL managers buy Leeds United players ahead of Gameweek 5?

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Leeds United have a favourable run of fixtures coming up, starting in Gameweek 5. Last season, this would mean a double or even triple-up on their Fantasy Premier League (FPL) assets. However, the early-season results have left many wondering if this is wise.

In this article, I’ll cast an eye over Leeds United so far in 2021/22, how this compares to the previous campaign and how we could expect the Whites to line up in the coming weeks, all within a Fantasy context.

But first, let’s just get this out of the way: Patrick Bamford (£7.9m) has been confirmed fit by Marcelo Bielsa!

2020/2021 vs 2021/2022

The new season is young, so rather than trying to draw firm conclusions from the data, we should instead look for trends. For example, signs of continuation or deviation from last season’s numbers.

Expected Goals Conceded

In 2020/21 (the first table above), Leeds were ranked fifth-worst for expected goals conceded (xGC) in the league with 58.71 (61.4 minutes per xGC). They managed to overperform this by just over four and a half goals across the season.

However, in the final 12 matches of 2020/21, the overperformance was more pronounced. Leeds conceded 10 goals from an xGC of 17.35 (65.8 mins/xGC). That is an overperformance of 7.35, which is comfortably the highest in the league over that period.

In 2021/22 (second table, above), Leeds have an xGC of 8.94, which is 42.7 mins/xGC. As we can see, all three clubs listed have a poorer mins/xGC than any club did in 2020/21, which suggests this is going to be heavily influenced by luck and the fixtures over the opening few matches. However, we can perhaps identify trends and a hierarchy.

Bielsa’s side have conceded two more goals than expected so far, but with only four matches played and Manchester United scoring five from an xG of only 1.47, we should not read too much into this.

Overall, it looks like the Whites have very much picked up where they left off. The accelerated rate of xGC from the end of the 2020/21 season has continued into 2021/22 and, despite the relatively tough opening fixtures, does not necessarily show any signs of reversing.

Expected Goals

In 2020/21 (first table, above), Leeds were the sixth-best side for expected goals (xG) in the league, with 56.36 (or 64 minutes per expected goal), overperforming this by roughly five and a half goals.

So far in 2021/22 (second table, above), this has dropped to 93.6 mins/xG (4.08 xG), which is the seventh-worst tally in the league. Leeds have performed exactly to the expected numbers, with four goals: Luke Ayling’s (£4.5m) wonder strike against Manchester United being balanced out by some poor misses, such as Rodrigo (£6.5m) spurning a roughly 0.3 xG (qualifying it as a big chance) shot against Liverpool.

This is a small sample and the fixtures have been relatively unkind – three of the four opponents finished last season in the top half for xGC – but the trend is not promising. Unlike the defensive numbers, the attacking numbers have flipped, going from amongst the best in the league in 20/21 to amongst the worst in 21/22. For a firm conclusion we need more data, but combining this with observations of Leeds’ performances could indicate if something has, or needs to, change for the goals to flow. That may of course simply be the fixtures, which Leeds have. 

Assessing Leeds’ Performances

Assessing Leeds United's FPL players ahead of Gameweek 5

The data suggests a continuation of the poor defence but a reversal in attack. Is this reinforced by what we have seen on the pitch? Can we identify reasons for this? Or is it just variance/fixtures?

The main concern for many Leeds fans like myself is the continued use of Rodrigo (£6.3) in the middle. Despite indications from his time at Valencia that he may well suit this role, the reality has been a harsh contrast.

Offensively, Rodrigo offers roughly what would be expected: chance creation and shots. Although even this could be improved, with several of his passes into Patrick Bamford (£7.9m) and others notably over-cooked or under-hit in recent weeks and his shot volume dropping from 3.08 per 90 (1.94 in the box) to 0.55 per 90 (all in the box) from last season to this.

In terms of involvement, Rodrigo has had 21.08 touches per 90 in the opponent’s half, down from 34.2 last season. Leeds’ touches in the opponent’s half have also dropped slightly, from 281.6 to 256.75 per 90, but Rodrigo’s drop-off has been far sharper, showing the proportionally lesser role he has played so far (12% of team touches to 8%).

The main issue however is not the Spaniard’s attacking contributions, which could be excused given opponents, but his neglection of defensive responsibilities. As an advanced ‘8’ in the 4-1-4-1, as opposed to a more traditional ‘10’ in a 4-2-3-1, he is required to form part of a midfield press and, like all players under Bielsa, has a specific marking job to perform.

Typically, Rodrigo is tasked with marking one of the opposition’s midfielders, whilst Bamford is left to cover both centre backs. This imbalance frees one of our own centre-backs from the strict person-to-person marking system, allowing them to pick up runners, and is the essence of why Bielsa switches from four at the back to three at the back depending on the number of opposition strikers, always covering them both whilst leaving a centre-back free.

This means that one opposition centre-half is always available to carry the ball into our midfield, either striding forwards themselves or offloading to a midfielder who can do the same. Leeds need to rotate marking duties during this phase or cut off the centre-back’s options to prevent it from becoming an issue. This is where we have failed, allowing players like Scott McTominay (£5.4m) to look world class once per season.

Whilst this is not all Rodrigo’s fault, teams regularly targeted Alioski last season, he is the main culprit. The Spaniard does not press backwards as keenly as he presses forwards and regularly leaves us overexposed in the midfield. The solution to this last season was for Bielsa to play Stuart Dallas (£5.4m) at CM and have him perform more of a zonal marking role, either picking up the free centre back as they strode forwards in possession or covering the midfielder that was likely to receive the ball from them.

Salah on target as Liverpool assets prosper at Leeds 6

However, Dallas no longer appears to be doing this. In the matches we have seen so far, he is man-marking like the rest of the team. This was especially evident in the first half of the Liverpool match, where Joel Matip (£5.0m) amassed 77 touches, which is second behind only Andrew Robertson (£7.0m) for Liverpool that day, beating even Trent Alexander-Arnold (£7.5m). 22 of these touches were in the opponent’s half, which is double that of Virgil van Dijk (£6.5m). This is despite Bielsa moving to resolve this issue in the second half.

If Dallas is no longer performing this job in midfield, I would argue he should not be playing there at all. He offers much less in possession than a player like Mateusz Klich (£5.5m), with his touch, awareness and passing falling short of what is required. Whilst his performances last season, especially those of a Fantasy-relevant nature, will never be forgotten, he is not a natural central midfielder and the starkness of this becomes painfully apparent when he is on the same pitch as a master operator like Thiago (£5.4m).

Ultimately, Leeds failed to sign the ‘8’ we needed over the summer. With neither Rodrigo nor Dallas entirely suited to the roles they are playing and Klich seemingly third in line, we are left with a midfield of effectively just Kalvin Phillips (£4.9m). There is hope in Adam Forshaw (£4.5m), but he has been injured for over a year and is without consistent top-flight minutes for even longer.

All of this perhaps explains why Leeds have veered away from the more possession-orientated game we were known for at the start of last season, becoming much more transitional in nature. We often now bypass the middle of the pitch entirely, looking to win the ball quickly and immediately turn it over to Raphinha (£6.5m), who has almost all the creative responsibilities in the side, or Bamford via long balls. A simple but impactful example of this is the fact that in the recent match against Liverpool, Leeds had 44% possession. In the same fixture last season, Leeds had 61%.

Leeds have also relaxed the extremely high press into something more middling, albeit with similar intensity. This may be a result of the midfield issues or an (unsuccessful) attempt to improve our defence.

This combined with the fact that we are now a known quantity – last season, despite all the analysis professional teams do, we still seemed to catch many by surprise, something that can still be seen in the first 15 minutes of matches this season before sides adjust to us – results in our threat diminishing.

The hope is that against poorer sides we can dominate, with Rodrigo’s deficiencies less easily exposed and the likes of him, Raphinha, Jack Harrison (£5.9m) and Bamford able to display their Fantasy potential.

It is worth noting that, last season, Rodrigo was considerably more effective against the weaker sides and that overall Leeds have very much tended to lose to sides better than them and win against sides poorer than them, sometimes dramatically.

How Leeds Are Likely to Line Up

Looking ahead, how do we expect Leeds to line up and what will that mean for our Fantasy assets?

4-1-4-1

This is the Leeds shape we are all most familiar with. The personnel selected here are what I believe to be Bielsa’s current favoured team rather than my own preference. Naturally, if you are reading this article in a few weeks’ time, this may well have changed. More often than not, the 4-1-4-1 is how Leeds will line up.

The main thing to highlight here is that Rodrigo plays as an ‘8’ not a ‘10’, as is often reported. Although, with Rodrigo pushing further forwards it can resemble a 4-2-3-1 at times, with a double pivot of Dallas and Phillips. In the past, it reflected more of a 4-3-3, with three central players, one more advanced one more withdrawn, and two wingers.

Raphinha is the main creator, with Ayling asked to build up down the right. It is worth noting that we have struggled more on the left this season, although Firpo has done a solid enough job in both the defensive and build-up phases. We were, for example, unable to take advantage of the space that Alexander-Arnold left exposed behind him this past weekend, something Harrison was able to exploit in prior meetings.

I would personally like to see Klich start, but Bielsa seems determined to make Dallas and Rodrigo work. That is despite him substituting the former Valencia man out in every match he has started this season, twice at half-time.

3-3-1-3

The 3-3-1-3 is rolled out against teams that play two up front, although there are some rare exceptions to that. Very often, Bielsa will use the exact same players as the 4-1-4-1 here to allow a seamless switch between the two shapes mid-match. Klich may displace Rodrigo, as he did against Everton.

In this shape, the RCB is tasked with progressing the ball whilst the RWB will often invert. In addition to the formational flexibility, this is another reason why Ayling tends to play the RCB role. Although, against Burnley, he did line up at RWB with Llorente the progressor at RCB and Dallas at LWB due to an absent Junior Firpo (£4.8m). This was reverted to the norm by Bielsa when Shackleton came on for Llorente at 65 minutes, however.

3-5-2

The 3-5-2 is one of those rare exceptions to the 3-3-1-3. This has been employed against teams that play three or five at the back themselves. Depending on how Newcastle line up, and namely the number of strikers they field (Bruce has indicated Callum Wilson (£7.4m) is unavailable), this could be what we see on Friday night. We could also line up in a 4-4-2 version of the 4-1-4-1, which is something we have seen occasionally in the past under these circumstances. As discussed earlier, the goal is to have two players pressing the three opposition centre backs to maintain the integrity of the marking system across the pitch.

I have not filled in the personnel here as, frankly, it would be a guess. I will however cover what I believe to be the most likely permutations for each position below.

CF – Bamford

SS – Rodrigo, Raphinha, Harrison

CM – Rodrigo, Raphinha, Klich

CM – Dallas, Klich

DM – Phillips, Klich

LWB – Firpo, Harrison

RWB – Dallas, Shackleton

CB – Ayling, Cooper, Cresswell, Firpo, Phillips

GK – Meslier

Diego Llorente and Robin Koch have been confirmed unavailable by Bielsa, while Pascal Struik is suspended. Cresswell could be in line to make his senior debut at centre-back if we go with three at the back.

This is one of the only occasions that Raphinha could play centrally, be it off Bamford or in the second CM slot. However, with how this formation operates, do not expect that to mean he is playing a traditional ‘10’ role. He is still likely to occupy the space on the right, especially if Dallas is the inverted RWB.

Looking at the fixture calendar, and assuming no tactical surprises, I would expect the following formations against our upcoming opponents:

West Ham (home) – 4-1-4-1

Watford (home) – 4-1-4-1

Southampton (away) – 3-3-1-3

Wolves (home) – 4-1-4-1/3-5-2

Norwich (away) – 4-1-4-1 

So, Should We Pick Leeds Players?

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  1. Pacer.
    • 9 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    Why are players like KdB and Mane so overpriced? KdBs 5 season average for years he played >2000 minutes is 185 points. He hit 250 year before last but the closest he's ever managed to that is 209 and he's repeatedly blighted by injury. Mane had two great years but dropped off last year and is very obviously in trouble from the start without any set pieces

    Sterling has a comparible, arguably better recent history and is 11m, Son hit 228 last year and went up from 9 to... 10!

    Just seems a bit of a waste of good players

    1. Drip Doctor
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      KDB isn't overpriced. If he's fit, he's gold. Mane is a little overpriced.

      1. Khark
        • 8 Years
        2 years, 7 months ago

        I don't agree to be honest, i agree with pacer think hes overpriced. Unbelievable footballer don't get me wrong, but from a fantasy point of view that price will never ever make me want him

        1. Drip Doctor
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          2 years, 7 months ago

          A fully fit KDB is as good an option as Salah. He might not get as many goals, but he'll get twice the assists and bonus.

          1. Khark
            • 8 Years
            2 years, 7 months ago

            And how long are you getting him fully fit for? 3weeks? then having to transfer him out again, and that's not even to mention the pep roulette that plagues us all.

            1. Drip Doctor
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 13 Years
              2 years, 7 months ago

              The fact he's struggling with injury is irrelevant to his price, rightly so.

          2. ktk_interista
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            2 years, 7 months ago

            Not as many goals? He'll get less than half his goals. Without penalties, he'll probably get 6 or 7 goals. And realistically how many assists will he get? 15? These are not the returns of a 12m player. After last season, he should have been priced at 10.5

            He is not comparable to Salah who will easily get 20-25 goals. A goal is almost 2 assists in terms of points. My prediction is that Salah ends up on 230-260 points where as kdb ends up at 170-190 points

            1. Drip Doctor
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 13 Years
              2 years, 7 months ago

              How can you say that when KDB scored 140 having played just 1995 minutes last season?

              16/17 - 199 in 2877 minutes
              17/18 - 209 in 3000 minutes
              19/20 - 251 in 2790 minutes

              When he's fit, he's a points machine.

              1. FOO FIGHTER
                • 4 Years
                2 years, 7 months ago

                KDB should not have been priced more than Son.

                1. Drip Doctor
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 13 Years
                  2 years, 7 months ago

                  Let me get this straight, a fit Son for Spurs vs a fit KDB for City at the same price and you are picking Son?

                  1. FOO FIGHTER
                    • 4 Years
                    2 years, 7 months ago

                    What has KDB's price been at the start of each season since Salah joined LFC?

      2. Pacer.
        • 9 Years
        2 years, 7 months ago

        KdB isn't gold. KdB was gold when he was like 10m. He was 12 this year

        KdBs biggest ever season in minutes ended on 209 points. So I don't think we can argue it's as simple as more minutes = gold.

        1. Drip Doctor
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          2 years, 7 months ago

          Minutes shouldn't define a players price. FPL can't predict if De Bruyne will get injured. If he plays 3000 minutes, he scores 250+

          If the game had no transfers then maybe, but we can jump on and off players who get injured, so minutes are irrelevant when it comes to pricing.

          1. Zimo
            • 5 Years
            2 years, 7 months ago

            He doesn't get 250+ points regularly though. The only season he did he massively overperformed. 13 goals and 23 assists from 7 expected goals and 14 expected assists.

            1. Drip Doctor
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 13 Years
              2 years, 7 months ago

              When you watch the games, he always looks a threat though. Last season, he was spurning a lot of good chances, but he was getting in the right positions.

              Point is, his stats are always near the top for shot and chances created. Only injuries let him down.

          2. Pacer.
            • 9 Years
            2 years, 7 months ago

            Minutes don't define a players price. But they are one factor that contributes to it. If minutes didn't play some part in FPL pricing then players who get much fewer minutes wouldn't be cheaper than players that get many minutes. That's something that FPL has to make an attempt at predicting and price accordingly. Players like KdB who play much fewer minutes than other players should have that factored into their price. They represent a predictable risk, that 50% of the time they'll only play 2/3 of a season

            1. Drip Doctor
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 13 Years
              2 years, 7 months ago

              Why? Why when we can make transfers? You aren't fixed into KDB. If you get him, you don't have to keep him for the season. His stats are always right at the top with Salah and Bruno, hence the similar price.

              1. Pacer.
                • 9 Years
                2 years, 7 months ago

                Salah has hit 230-303 in four seasons in a row. KdB doesn't offer anything like that reliability and ceiling. Not even close.

                1. Drip Doctor
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 13 Years
                  2 years, 7 months ago

                  If KDB didn't get injured last season, he was on course to match Salah.

                  1. Drip Doctor
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 13 Years
                    2 years, 7 months ago

                    He also outscored Salah the season before that in fewer minutes.

                    1. Pacer.
                      • 9 Years
                      2 years, 7 months ago

                      Right but he does keep getting injured, and has only posted one very big score. Can't really understand why you insist on arguing that players who can't stay fit but have similar stats when fit should command equal values as their counterparts. Free transfers have value, injuries disrupt seasons and managerial planning.

                      1. Drip Doctor
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 13 Years
                        2 years, 7 months ago

                        Because you can't predict the injuries, there have been seasons where KDB has been fit all season, he's not Sturridge ffs.

                        1. He plays for the best attack in the league
                        2. When fit, he plays
                        3. He is the best assister in the league
                        4. He is the best midfielder when it comes to accumulating Bonus points
                        5. He's a proven points machine and reliable captain

                      2. FOO FIGHTER
                        • 4 Years
                        2 years, 7 months ago

                        Please post KDB's starting price for each season since Salah joined LFC.

    2. Khark
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      For me they're both just completely priced out of the game. I see a few content creators saying we will be wanting KDB soon - i wont that's for sure.

      FPL towers need to be putting the pair of them in the Son bracket so we have more options there, and people will then start taking them a little more seriously.

      1. Pacer.
        • 9 Years
        2 years, 7 months ago

        For me they're both classic 11m players. They both come with caveats, KdB that he's only ever hit the kind of score that justifies his premium price on one occasion and mane that he's second fiddle and 230 probably represents his absolute ceiling

    3. Eat my goal!
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Totally agree - can’t even consider them as assets

    4. sminkypinky
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      It’s a good thing. Different strokes.

    5. FOO FIGHTER
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      I reckon the KDB ship has sailed.

      Salah is King. Mane is too expensive.

    6. Zimo
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Yeah effectively ruled anyone serious from having KDB

      1. Drip Doctor
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        2 years, 7 months ago

        You don't think a fit KDB outscores Bruno/CR7 between GW 8-10?

        1. FOO FIGHTER
          • 4 Years
          2 years, 7 months ago

          I think we will see Pep using KDB 'sparingly' as he seems to be made of glass nowadays.

        2. Zimo
          • 5 Years
          2 years, 7 months ago

          I think a fit Salah and Lukaku will outscore him

    7. noquarternt
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Interesting discussion. It all comes down to opportunity cost though.

      In a game with Salah Bruno KDB Kane being the over 11m options KDB has value.

      Throw in the signings of Lukaku and Ronaldo it doesn’t look like he has value anymore.

      Mane is tough, he’s had some superb fantasy seasons but to price him 0.5 less than Salah makes it a no brainer for most unless you’re looking for a massive differential.

    8. FPL Theorist
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      There's probably some algorithm that sets the prices, probably based mainly on things like xG/xA per 90, where KDB performed decently last season (he just had too few 90's, combined with underperforming his xG). Presumably the algorithm also thought he was on pens, which Mahrez is clearly on.

      In this case, humans should overrule the algorithm, but apparently they don't for whatever reason, or only do when a player looks underpriced.

      1. FOO FIGHTER
        • 4 Years
        2 years, 7 months ago

        Maybe people do not like Gray because he is so cheap?

        Unlikely he will score just about every game but he is just pure value for money.

    9. Pacer.
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Maybe I'm overlooking the obvious, which is that Salah is bafflingly only 12.5. This is the player that - although arguably in decline - has hit four scores between 231 and 303. There is nobody in the game that offers even approaching that reliability and ceiling

      1. FOO FIGHTER
        • 4 Years
        2 years, 7 months ago

        I doubt any player will match Salah tbf.

    10. popey
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      agree that some pricing put players out of the game, loads of examples in the bigger clubs.

      Firminho should be in the Bam, Ings etc bracket
      Sterling more than Son... really?

    11. BoleynWin
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      19 goals & 35 assists across the last two seasons for KDB, he’s an absolute animal.

      1. Drip Doctor
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        2 years, 7 months ago

        It like we've been playing a different game. I can't believe what im reading on this thread.

        1. Pacer.
          • 9 Years
          2 years, 7 months ago

          I mean, you seem to be under the impression that you are talking to managers who you need to convince that KdB is world class player. It's more likely you're taking to a group of managers who have repeatedly owned KdB and come to the conclusion that for a number of reasons, 12m represents a prohibitive price for a player who gets repeatedly crocked.

          Also worth noting if you have watched KdB extensively that he has traditionally been absolutely terrible in front of goal (relative to the rest of his game which is world class). The season before last represented an unusual deviation from that when everything he hit went in. Last season we saw him regress to not bring able to hit a barn door with just 4 goals from open play in 2000 minutes. Four.

  2. sminkypinky
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    What would you say if I was to tell you this is my wc team
    4.0 Sanchez
    TAA Duffy Livra Marcal Semedo
    Sissoko Salah Gray Raph Gallagher
    Lukaku Bamford Ronaldo

    Over the top mad?
    Bam can become Ant next gw. Semedo can become Christensen gw7.

    1. Herman Toothrot
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Egregious.

      1. sminkypinky
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        2 years, 7 months ago

        😆

    2. Drip Doctor
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Not for me. Just switch between Lukaku and Ronaldo. No need to have both imo. Yes they'll score consistently, but they are unlikely to haul in the tougher games. Both teams still lack a bit of creativity.

      1. sminkypinky
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        2 years, 7 months ago

        This just tempts me. I now have a more balanced team:
        Sanchez
        TAA Shaw Semedo Marcal Livra
        Salah Greenwood Jota Raph Grey
        Ronaldo Dennis Bamford

        I just think I’ll be digging myself in a hole with this one.

        1. StingRay
          • 8 Years
          2 years, 7 months ago

          Why not just go with a 4.5 Forward like SCARLETT and put the 0.7 mln saving elsewhere.

          Also I’ve read that Dennis spot is not secured

          1. sminkypinky
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 12 Years
            2 years, 7 months ago

            Thats true. One of the reasons swaying me to go big up top. Also gives me three clear bench cheapos.

    3. Silecro
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Good enough, i'm going with something similar. Lukaku and Ronaldo are mainstays for the rest of the season, barring injuries, and between them and Salah, you will most often than not hit right with the captain.

      1. sminkypinky
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        2 years, 7 months ago

        Just watched their PL and CL games in a row. Just pure class. So dangerous.

  3. Old Gregg
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    Sanchez
    TAA-Shaw-Reguillon-White
    Salah-ESR-Traore-Benrahmab- Raph
    CR7

    Antonio-Taimikas-perica

    1FT 3.9 ITB

    Which move please

    A) perica > Bam bam
    B) Antonio > Lukaka
    C) Tsimikas > Semedo

    1. Crunchie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      A

    2. iL PiStOlErO
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      A

  4. Mr. O'Connell
    • 11 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    Can see how this goes:

    Buy Cancelo on WC
    Pep benches him (obv)
    City win 6-0
    Livramento subs in for Cancelo for -2

    1. Crunchie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      lol

    2. Khark
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Fantasy in a nutshell. Love to hate it

    3. sminkypinky
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Probably. 😀

    4. Baps hunter
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Get better 1st sub for this week!

  5. BURNS
    • 5 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    A) Raph, Bennie, White

    B) jota, Gallagher, B.Williams

    1. iL PiStOlErO
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Maybe A

    2. Crunchie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      B

    3. F4L
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Will White/Williams be playing regularly for you?

      1. BURNS
        • 5 Years
        2 years, 7 months ago

        3rd def, rotate with livramento

        1. F4L
          • 9 Years
          2 years, 7 months ago

          I'd go with A then. Raphinha is the best option of the other 4 imo, and Arsenal will keep quite a few more CS than Norwich.

          1. BURNS
            • 5 Years
            2 years, 7 months ago

            Thanks!

    4. Ze_Austin
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Can Ben be Gray and White be Tierney?

      1. BURNS
        • 5 Years
        2 years, 7 months ago

        Yes, that’s another option thanks

  6. iL PiStOlErO
    • 4 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    Sanchez Steele
    TAA Shaw Coufal White Livra
    Salah Bruno Mahrez Maddison Bisso
    Antonio Ings Scarlett

    0itb, 2ft

    Choose one, all for -4:

    A) Bruno+Maddison+Ings to Pogba+Raph+Kaku

    B) Bruno+Maddison+Ings to Jota+Raph+CR7

    C) Mahrez+Madders+Ings to some 4.5mid+Torres+Kaku

    1. Crunchie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      C

  7. lordkippe
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    Anything worth a FT ? .0 ITB

    Raya

    TAA - Shaw - Semedo - Tierney

    Salah - Jota - Torres - Odegaard

    Jimenez - Ronaldo

    Gunnarsson - Williams - Allan - Antonio

  8. StingRay
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    RMT = WC ACTIVE

    Sanchez Steer
    TAA James Cancelo Livramento Omobamidele
    Salah Raphinha Mount Gray Sissoko
    Ronaldo Lukaku Scarlett

    1. Dexters Laboratory
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Mount to Jota for the next 2

      1. Crunchie
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        2 years, 7 months ago

        Agree, Gray to Gallagher next week

      2. StingRay
        • 8 Years
        2 years, 7 months ago

        Jota is NOT impressing me. He’s underperforming, plays about 60 mins and has the rivalry of Mane & Salah to contend with.

        Mount will assist Rom

  9. McGowan
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    A) Lukaku, Pukki, Torres
    B)Ronaldo, ASM, Grey

    1. Gunners in Haaland
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      A

    2. Dexters Laboratory
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      B) For next two .. A) Next 6

    3. F4L
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      if you're on WC I'd pick Lukaku over CR7. Only like Torres of those other 4 options tbh

  10. Dexters Laboratory
    • 3 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    Next two only
    A) Jimenez & Benrahma
    B) Toney & Raphina

    1. Gunners in Haaland
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      B

    2. iL PiStOlErO
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      B

    3. Crunchie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      B

    4. One Man
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      B

  11. Salarrivederci
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    Not keen on Townsend, but this is what budget can get me. Could downgrade keepers into 8.5 combo or go back to ESR > Townsend and upgrade Omo to Williams. Could do the same with Mendy > Sissoko. That 0.1 could also upgrade Townsend into Ødegaard or Doucoure.

    What do you think?
    Schmeichel
    TAA - James - Semedo - Tierney
    Salah - Raphinha - Townsend
    Ronaldo - Lukaku - Pukki

    (Ward, Gallagher, Sissoko, Omobamidele)

    1. Dexters Laboratory
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Would drop to 8.5 keepers and reinvest .. looks good though

      1. Salarrivederci
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 7 months ago

        Only problem is.... I want to go Krul - Gunn if I do so 😀

        Schmeichel, Ward, Townsend, Omobamidele -> Krul, Gunn, Gray, Livramento + 0.1 ITB

    2. FPL Emu
      • 13 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      I'd go Doucoure over Townsend personally, but don't like either too much

      1. Salarrivederci
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 7 months ago

        Ye and not sure that is worth having a non playing injured player to go Doucoure > Townsend..
        Omobamidele not nailed either.

  12. EL_FENOMENO
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    Who to play:
    a) Coufal
    b) White

    1. iL PiStOlErO
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      B

      1. Dexters Laboratory
        • 3 Years
        2 years, 7 months ago

        B

  13. School of Poch
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    Anybody considering Cancelo as an option. On WC and considering him

    1. Dexters Laboratory
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Definitely an option.. whether I want to get burnt again.. Will decide soon haha

    2. THE SHEEP HUNTERS
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Only with a solid bench.
      Absolutely.

      1. School of Poch
        • 8 Years
        2 years, 7 months ago

        This is my issue. I have 2 drafts for WC one with a stronger starting 11 and weaker bench and I can't fit him in and one with a stronger bench with him in

    3. FOO FIGHTER
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Yes I am getting him but only after GW7.

  14. FPL Emu
    • 13 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    I'm 0.1 off this team. Suggestions how I can make it work? Options could be downgrade Sissoko to Mendy or Gray to Doucoure, but not too keen on any of them

    Sanchez (4.0)

    TAA, Shaw, Marcal, Livramento, Omobamidele

    Salah, Raphinha, Gallagher, Gray (Sissoko)

    Lukaku, Ronaldo, Bamford

    1. Manani
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      downgrade Marcal

      1. FPL Emu
        • 13 Years
        2 years, 7 months ago

        To ... White then, I guess?

        1. Manani
          • 12 Years
          2 years, 7 months ago

          yes, or any other 4.5m like Ayling, Coady

    2. Crunchie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Gray to Doucoure

    3. g40steve
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Livra to Williams?

  15. Crunchie
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    A. Coufal> Semedo
    B. Benrahma > 6.2 (I think Sarr and Traore as gash), probably Doucoure / Gallagher)
    C. Both for -4

    Cheers

  16. Manani
    • 12 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    A. Mahrez > Raphinna
    B. Mahrez > Torres

    1. Dexters Laboratory
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Feel Torres will score more this game week but Raphina more over the next 3

    2. waldo666
      • 13 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      A

    3. Crunchie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Raph

    4. F4L
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Raphinha will be less frustrating

    5. iL PiStOlErO
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      A

  17. F4L
    • 9 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    DCL ➡ Bamford done:

    Guaita
    TAA Cancelo James
    Torres Greenwood Jota Raphinha Traore
    Bamford Lukaku (c)

    4.0 Shaw Digne Antonio

    Bring on GW5!

  18. n-doggg
    • 11 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    Save FT, gtg?

    Sanchez
    TAA, coady, white
    Salah(c), raphinia, traore, sarr, sissoko
    Ronaldo, Lukaku

    Antonio, Williams, livermanto, Steele

    1. Dexters Laboratory
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      GTG

    2. Freshy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Sad for Omar
      RIP

      1. n-doggg
        • 11 Years
        2 years, 7 months ago

        Dark day

  19. g40steve
    • 6 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    Is Ronaldo a must have, got three drafts two without Ronaldo but good mids or defence?

    WC tinkering 🙂

    A, 4.5
    Trent, Cancelo, James, Semedo
    Salah, Torres, Gray, Gallagher
    Ronaldo, Lukaku

    4.0, Williams, Sissoko, Locadia

    B, Schmeichel
    Trent, Cancelo, James, Semedo
    Salah, Greenwood, Gray, Gallagher
    Bamford, Lukaku

    4.0, Williams, Sissoko, ANTONIO

    .5 bank

    C, 5.0
    Trent, James, Semedo, Tierney
    Salah, Greenwood, Torres, Gray
    Bamford, Lukaku

    4.0, Sissoko, Williams, Antonio

    .1 bank

    1. n-doggg
      • 11 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      A

    2. iL PiStOlErO
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Yeah, like C the best. It just depends for how long will Greenwood keep his place

    3. Crunchie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Like B right now or C if you are happy to book in transfers to B

    4. Eat my goal!
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      C

      1. g40steve
        • 6 Years
        2 years, 7 months ago

        Ta which keeper, Schmeichel, Sa another?

        1. Eat my goal!
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 5 Years
          2 years, 7 months ago

          Sa

          1. g40steve
            • 6 Years
            2 years, 7 months ago

            Ta

    5. g40steve
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Cheers torn between B & C, which?

      1. iL PiStOlErO
        • 4 Years
        2 years, 7 months ago

        Go C, very good and balanced team but just don't blame me later haha.

  20. Crunchie
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    EDIT

    A. Coufal> Semedo
    B. Benrahma > 6.2 (I think Sarr and Traore as gash), probably Doucoure / Gallagher)
    C. Both for -4 Benrahama to Saka if -4

    Cheers

  21. Tsparkes10
    • 5 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    Who to go for?
    A) Saint maxim
    B) Bamford
    C) Jimenez

    1. F4L
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Bamford

    2. g40steve
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      B

    3. n-doggg
      • 11 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      B

    4. Crunchie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      B

  22. Jdpz
    • 4 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    What to do? 1FT and 1.5m in the bank.

    Sanchez
    TAA Reguilon Cash Tierney
    Salah Bruno Jota Raphinha Benrahma
    Toney

    4.0* Ayling Antonio* Perica*

    a) WC
    b) Cash to under 6.5m defender (Alonso, James, Cancelo...)
    c) Toney to Bamford (or Jimenez, Richarlison?)
    d) another option

    1. noquarternt
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Not tempted by Ronaldo/Lukaku?

      Probably save this week for 2FTs next week

  23. Romford Pele - Don't w…
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    Bench Sissoko (nor) or Williams (WAT)?

    1. n-doggg
      • 11 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Same dilemma. Benching Williams

      1. Romford Pele - Don't w…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        2 years, 7 months ago

        me too (currently)

    2. Crunchie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      mmm, Watford could score so C

  24. 03farmboy
    • 4 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    Antonio and Toney out for Lukaku and Dennis -4
    Or
    1 ft Toney out for Bamford would have to play gilmour or Livramento with Antonio on bench ??

  25. THE SHEEP HUNTERS
    • 6 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    Lukaku, Jiminez or Jesus for the armband. tx.

    1. Ajax Hamsterdam
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      oh, any other options at all?

      1. THE SHEEP HUNTERS
        • 6 Years
        2 years, 7 months ago

        Traore, but feel that's a little too left field.
        Maguire as he may get his slab on one soon before I ditch him into the donkey sanctuary.
        Errr... no nothing else. except I do own KDB but he looked a bit pasty in the CL.

    2. Stupendous
      • 11 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Lukaku easy

      1. THE SHEEP HUNTERS
        • 6 Years
        2 years, 7 months ago

        Tx Stup! No it's not easy, I'm favouring Jesus at present but finding it a tough call.
        I'm certain when Jim' hits he's gonna fill his boots too.

  26. FPLMACKEM
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 3 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    Sanchez
    TAA, Shaw, Coufal
    Salah, Greenwood, Benrahma, Barnes
    Toney, Antonio, CR7

    Steele, Amartey, Tsimikas, Gilmour

    1FT £1M itb

    A Start Gilmour and bank transfer
    B Start Tsimikas and bank transfer
    C Tsimikas > Semedo and go 442
    D Tsimikas and Benrahma > Semedo and Raphina -4

  27. Ajax Hamsterdam
    • 9 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    which chelsea defender would you go for on wc? thanks

    a rudiger
    b james

    1. Drip Doctor
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      B

    2. Crunchie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      I like B's upside

    3. F4L
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      I went B, hopefully Tuchel shows just a bit more faith in James this season and he can really make RWB his position.

    4. Ajax Hamsterdam
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      cheers all!

    5. THE SHEEP HUNTERS
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Rudiger, less exciting but as a previous poster pointed out James may become very frustrating.
      Anyhow, did you see that run out from defence in CL yesterday...maybe he will become exciting.
      Like a Bat out of Hell!

      1. Ajax Hamsterdam
        • 9 Years
        2 years, 7 months ago

        haha no I havent which game was that?

  28. StingRay
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    I’m thinking the best way to get CR7 and ROM in our teams and have a balanced team is to have a 4.5 Forward...

    Is it wise to get rid of Antonio though for this: Looks like Antonio is going down in price again tonight.

    Sanchez Steer
    TAA James Cancelo Livramento Omobamidele
    Salah Raphinha Mount Gray Sissoko
    Ronaldo Lukaku Scarlett

    1. Eat my goal!
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      You think mount will outscore Antonio?

      1. BenDavies
        • 11 Years
        2 years, 7 months ago

        yes given antonio cant play

        1. Eat my goal!
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 5 Years
          2 years, 7 months ago

          Ah Mr short sighted, well done to you!

    2. Ajax Hamsterdam
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      4.5 forward makes bench far too weak imo

      not sure antonio will drop tonight to be honest

    3. Crunchie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      I think Antonio will survive at 91%, Delta at 22341. I am gambling on it.

      If he looks to drop tomorrow I might go Bamford

    4. FPL Theorist
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      No, as long as he's fit, Antonio will outscore Mount easily.

    5. Alisson WondHaaland
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      You will eventually want one or more of Bamford, Antonio, DCL, Jimenez, Ings, Watkins, Wilson, Iheanacho. Not worth it

  29. Crunchie
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    Sanchez (Foster)
    TAA,Shaw,Coufal, White (Livramento)
    Salah(C), Jota, Greenwood, Raphinha, Benrahma
    Ronaldo (Antonio)

    A. Coufal> Semedo
    B. Benrahma & Coufal to Saka Semedo

  30. mr messi
    • 13 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    Best Wolves defender? Was thinking of getting Marcal but see a lot of people going for Semedo

    1. sminkypinky
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Semedo is a constant threat in the box. Shame he can’t finish. Marcal is more of a crosser but Also goes forward a lot.
      I’ve decided to go for both.