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Dugout Discussion November 28

Chelsea v Man Utd team news: Alonso starts as Mount, Havertz and Ronaldo benched

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In the final match of Gameweek 13, Chelsea take on Manchester United at Stamford Bridge, with Fantasy interest mostly centred around the hosts backline.

Kick-off is at 16:30 BST.

Chelsea, who have conceded just four goals in 12 league matches this season, make four changes from Gameweek 12, with Marcos Alonso (£5.6m), Ruben Loftus-Cheek (£5.4m), Hakim Ziyech (£7.3m) and Timo Werner (£8.6m) replacing Ben Chilwell (£5.9m), N’Golo Kante (£4.9m), Mason Mount (£7.5m) and Kai Havertz (£8.0m).

That means another start for Reece James (£6.2m), who has four goals and four assists from nine Premier League appearances this term, plus Trevor Chalobah (£4.8m). As a result, Cesar Azpilicueta (£5.8m) is once again a substitute, along with Romelu Lukaku (£11.5m) who is back from injury.

The headline news for Man Utd, who will have Michael Carrick in the dugout, is that Cristiano Ronaldo (£12.4m) drops to the bench with Bruno Fernandes (£11.6m), Jadon Sancho (£8.9m) and Marcus Rashford (£9.4m) preferred in the attacking roles.

GAMEWEEK 13 LINE-UPS

Chelsea XI: Mendy, Chalobah, Thiago Silva, Rudiger, James, Loftus-Cheek, Jorginho, Alonso, Ziyech, Hudson-Odoi, Werner

Subs: Arrizabalaga, Christensen, Lukaku, Pulisic, Saul, Barkley, Mount, Azpilicueta, Havertz

Man Utd XI: De Gea, Wan-Bissaka, Lindelof, Bailly, Telles, Fred, Matic, McTominay, Fernandes, Sancho, Rashford

Subs: Henderson, Jones, Ronaldo, Mata, Martial, Greenwood, Lingard, Dalot, Van de Beek

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  1. JONALDINHO
    • 6 Years
    2 years, 4 months ago

    64 pts all out. Decent sized green. No Foden or Son and City cleanie wiped is annoying but all in all we move

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  2. Prince of Persia
    • 9 Years
    2 years, 4 months ago

    Ronaldo, sell or keep?

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    1. jackruet
      • 2 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      Keep

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      1. Mr. O'Connell
        • 11 Years
        2 years, 4 months ago

        Come on. Don't be mean.

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    2. jonnybhoy
      • 11 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      Id keep. People sold vardy and now hes got good fixtures. Same will happen with Ronaldo

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    3. Sun Jihai
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      Easy sell for Lukaku

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    4. DARE TO BISCAN
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      • 5 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      Keep & TC

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    5. Gunners in Haaland
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      Sell and delete team

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    6. matiakez
      • 13 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      Y

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  3. jonnybhoy
    • 11 Years
    2 years, 4 months ago

    70(-8) post baps with 10 players and somehow still gutted having players like cancelo, rudiger and James letting it down. Weird day

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  4. Cok3y5murf
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 4 months ago

    51% rank increase despite having an 86% template team and 10 men

    And people worry that the template is too strong to gain ground...

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    1. Qaiss
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      Ranked in the millions, eh?

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      1. Cok3y5murf
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 4 months ago

        43k to 21k

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        1. Hazz
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 6 Years
          2 years, 4 months ago

          Nice. 66k to 27k here.

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    2. FPL Pillars
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      I halved my rank also, easy in the top 50k now

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    3. Gross Blank Point
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      Same as me. 87% template, 10 played and went from 261K to 142K

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    4. One More Hit
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      It must be getting really tight at the top; I’ve only gone up 270 places (I think) with 56 points and 71% template rating.

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    5. dshv
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      From 20k maybe to 40k..

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    6. FPL Bielsa
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      Same here 96k to 45k thanks Jota and Dennis

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    7. El Presidente
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      It depends on the 15% non template, right? If it's Saka and Denis was great if it's Hwang and Alonso was shaite.

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    8. Gunners in Haaland
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      34 points, 10 men, 76% template team and 25% rank decrease. Tell me more...

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      1. Cok3y5murf
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 4 months ago

        Pick better differentials 😉

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  5. Firminooooo
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 4 months ago

    James, Cancelo, Foden, Mbuemo, Kane, Reguilon and Antonio today: 6 points. Everybody I dont own: hauls.

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    1. Jimmers
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      I sold Vardy for Kane for -4 🙁

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    2. Cok3y5murf
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      You are low-key becoming Super Saints

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  6. JariL
    • 9 Years
    2 years, 4 months ago

    How's this for free?

    Christensen & Ronaldo --> Alonso & Kane

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    1. jonnybhoy
      • 11 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      Yes

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    2. Eh, just one more thing ...
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      Kane, no. Don’t trade a turd for a turd.

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    3. Gunners in Haaland
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      Yes

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  7. Rainer
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 4 months ago

    Anyone brave enough to bench Reece James?

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    1. jonnybhoy
      • 11 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      Why would you own him to bench him?

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      1. Rainer
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 4 months ago

        Dodge another 1 pointer?

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        1. jonnybhoy
          • 11 Years
          2 years, 4 months ago

          Utds goal came from nothing. Unlucky to conceed be normal service again midweek

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    2. tangtastic
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      thats not brave, thats just silly

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    3. lilmessipran
      • 11 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      Tuchel

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    4. Eh, just one more thing ...
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      3rd on the bench. In fact, might sell for a hit. Thinking Ritchie?

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    5. Tactical Frank
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      Upcoming benching in mid-week? Yeah, I can see it happening..

      I'll still play him myself

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  8. Art Vandelay
    • 13 Years
    2 years, 4 months ago

    LiveFPL predicting an 80 place green arrow.. I'l take that having taken a hit and only getting 9 players out.

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    1. g40steve
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      30k rise with a - 12 hits can work 🙂

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  9. FPL Pillars
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 4 months ago

    Anyone know who’s presser is when ?

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  10. Lord of Ings
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 4 months ago

    Foden to:-
    A)Sancho
    B)Gundogan

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    1. Sun Jihai
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      B
      Scored 13 points today

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      1. Bushwhacker
        • 4 Years
        2 years, 4 months ago

        Until review

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    2. Eleven Hag
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      Why sell

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  11. Pep's Money Laundry
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 4 months ago

    Which one?

    A. Chillwell to Alonso (own James)
    B. Chillwell to Rudiger
    C. Mbeumo to Gundogan

    Or I can do 2 moves for a hit

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    1. wulfrunian
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      c

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    2. Gunners in Haaland
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      C

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    3. Ginola
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      A

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  12. gart888
    • 9 Years
    2 years, 4 months ago

    Rudiger to Alonso for free?

    Gives me the funds I need to eventually go Vardy to Lukaku.

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    1. g40steve
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      No way

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    2. Bob.
      • 14 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      Rudiger could have score two today!

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    3. POGON 1948
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 2 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      Funnily enough Rudiger is the bigger goal threat

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  13. Atimis
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 4 months ago

    Can’t find any other options so which one?

    1) Chilwell to Alonso
    2) Chilwell Raph to 4.7def Jota -4

    Rambo/Foster
    TAA/Cancelo/James/Chilwell/Duffy
    Salah/Son/Raph/Gallagher/Mbeumo
    Vardy/Toney/4.4

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    1. jonnybhoy
      • 11 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      2

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    2. g40steve
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      2

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  14. Buck The Trent
    • 12 Years
    2 years, 4 months ago

    Start ?

    A Livra (LEI)
    B ESR (mun)
    C Toney (tot)

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    1. Sun Jihai
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      C
      On penalties at least

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    2. lilmessipran
      • 11 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      C

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    3. jonnybhoy
      • 11 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      Difficult one B or C probs

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    4. FPL Pillars
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      C

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    5. Bushwhacker
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      B

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    6. Gunners in Haaland
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      B

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  15. balint84
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 4 months ago

    Now who is the recommended forward for the next week? i have no idea

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    1. One More Hit
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      Vardy

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    2. g40steve
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      Party time

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    3. Gunners in Haaland
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      Rudiger

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    4. DARE TO BISCAN
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      Skittles vodka guy

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  16. MOZIL
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 4 months ago

    Will andy have a live stream later?

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    1. dabber7
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      Normally 8pm

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    2. dabber7
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=261hpVSnDqc

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  17. _Gunner
    • 9 Years
    2 years, 4 months ago

    What to do with Jesus?

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    1. Rainer
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      Keep, start.

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    2. FPL Pillars
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      Keep for Christmas

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    3. @persecuted_by_mods
        2 years, 4 months ago

        Have faith

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      • Zimo
        • 5 Years
        2 years, 4 months ago

        He'll haul soon. Been unlucky

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    4. DARE TO BISCAN
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      Utd fan on 606 is a classic 😀

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    5. Weak Become Heros
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      How did Alonso look today lads? I missed the game. Thanks

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      1. Jimmers
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        2 years, 4 months ago

        A poor replacement for Chilwell

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      2. POGON 1948
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 2 Years
        2 years, 4 months ago

        Not the worst, definitely rusty/shakey but as someone else said it's his first game back after a while.

        He was on corners most of the game until he seemingly got kicked off that towards the last 15 mins by Ziyech.

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        1. NATSTER
          • 13 Years
          2 years, 4 months ago

          ... which was not good for him, imo.

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      3. g40steve
        • 6 Years
        2 years, 4 months ago

        Not fit to clean Chilwells boots

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        1. Big_Andy_GAWA
          • 12 Years
          2 years, 4 months ago

          Thinking of bringing in for Tierney before 'wat...'

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    6. shiraz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      One of the worst wk for me. 38 points with 10 players. Dropped from 10k to 30k. All but salah, saiss and trent repay my faith.

      Have a feeling i will be eliminated from last man standing.

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      1. TorresMagic™
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 14 Years
        2 years, 4 months ago

        Should be low 40s.

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    7. Botman and Robben
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      1FT. 2.3ITB

      Livramento or White ->

      A. Rudiger
      B. Alonso

      Guaita
      TAA Cancelo James
      Salah Son ESR Gallagher Jota
      Antonio Wilson

      Carson White Livramento Davis

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      1. jonnybhoy
        • 11 Years
        2 years, 4 months ago

        A looked more a goal threat today. B looks like will provide assists from corners etc

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      2. dabber7
        • 3 Years
        2 years, 4 months ago

        Livramento out but tough on which one to bring in. Before the match I would have said Alonso but now I think I might go safe with Rudiger. He had a couple of great opportunites to score again and we really don't currently have enough data to go on with regard to Alonso, although obviously his potential ceiling is higher.

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    8. POGON 1948
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 2 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      I was 50/50 on taking -4 on Havertz -> Jota or Chilwell -> Alonso. Ended up doing neither.

      I would be mad about one, and happy about the other. Hindsight is a beautiful thing.

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    9. balint84
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      Allison or Ederson?

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      1. One More Hit
        • 5 Years
        2 years, 4 months ago

        Wouldn’t use up a third Liverpool slot on Allison

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      2. DARE TO BISCAN
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        2 years, 4 months ago

        TAA, Jota, Salah. No room for Ali

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      3. Rainer
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 4 months ago

        Too many Liverpool options to consider Alisson.

        Ederson is solid.

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      4. POGON 1948
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 2 Years
        2 years, 4 months ago

        As a Lpool fan let it be known Allison is far the superior keeper, but FPL asset Ederson much better

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    10. Pukkipartyy
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      Alonso or Rudi? Based on the game its Rudi 100%

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      1. Gudjohnsen
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 4 months ago

        Got both but need James

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      2. Botman and Robben
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 4 months ago

        My dilemma too. See above.

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    11. dshv
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      Ramsdale
      James Taa Cancelo
      Raphinha Salah Gallagher Foden
      Antonio Hwang Kane

      Foster - ESR - Livra - Duffy

      0.9itb 2ft … what to change or keep for midweek???

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      1. sirmorbach
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 4 months ago

        In a similar situation, I think I'll still wait for Foden news

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      2. curious_zombie
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        2 years, 4 months ago

        2ft? See if you can get Jota?

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        1. dshv
          • 6 Years
          2 years, 4 months ago

          Can get but where?

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      3. DARE TO BISCAN
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        2 years, 4 months ago

        Foden, Duffy > Jota, Alonso

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        1. dshv
          • 6 Years
          2 years, 4 months ago

          0.1 short to that mate

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          1. DARE TO BISCAN
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 5 Years
            2 years, 4 months ago

            Oof. That happens to me a lot

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    12. sirmorbach
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      Foden a must-sell or is it viable to wait and see?

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      1. TorresMagic™
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 14 Years
        2 years, 4 months ago

        See what Pep says.

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      2. curious_zombie
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        2 years, 4 months ago

        +1. Couldn't find any post match comments from Pep about him ether

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        1. @persecuted_by_mods
            2 years, 4 months ago

            Same, strange

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        2. FPL Pillars
          • 7 Years
          2 years, 4 months ago

          If it’s for Jota I would sell, not even on the bench is bad sign

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          1. sirmorbach
            • 7 Years
            2 years, 4 months ago

            Got Jota already, but I appreciate it!

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        3. The Knights Template
          • 10 Years
          2 years, 4 months ago

          Fodenfreude!

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      3. Fuddled FC
        • 12 Years
        2 years, 4 months ago

        Based on this performance is Alonso still likely to start?

        I was planning on Dias > Alonso instead of James to save funds to upgrade Mbueno

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        1. El Matador
          • 10 Years
          2 years, 4 months ago

          Alonso didn't do anything wrong.

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        2. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 14 Years
          2 years, 4 months ago

          Yes

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        3. curious_zombie
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 5 Years
          2 years, 4 months ago

          I think James played on the left in the last 10 minutes when Chelsea went for it...not sure about Alonso being nailed...

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          1. Silver_and_Gold
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 3 Years
            2 years, 4 months ago

            They changed the formation to 4 at the back at the end of the game, with Chalobah staying on the right, while James moving to the left. Highly unlikely, Tuchel would resign from the system, that served him so well to date. With 5 at the back, Alonso will start almost every game, except when in need of a rest.

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      4. MOZIL
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 4 months ago

        Alonso or Reguilón?

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        1. ChelseaGuy
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 7 Years
          2 years, 4 months ago

          No, unless the DGW for Spurs is this week

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      5. Walter White (WW)
        • 2 Years
        2 years, 4 months ago

        I love the PL. I love England!

        Roll on those midweek fixtures asap!!! 🙂

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      6. ChelseaGuy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 4 months ago

        Best fwd under 6.3 to own?

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