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Chelsea v Man Utd team news: Alonso starts as Mount, Havertz and Ronaldo benched

In the final match of Gameweek 13, Chelsea take on Manchester United at Stamford Bridge, with Fantasy interest mostly centred around the hosts backline.

Kick-off is at 16:30 BST.

Chelsea, who have conceded just four goals in 12 league matches this season, make four changes from Gameweek 12, with Marcos Alonso (£5.6m), Ruben Loftus-Cheek (£5.4m), Hakim Ziyech (£7.3m) and Timo Werner (£8.6m) replacing Ben Chilwell (£5.9m), N’Golo Kante (£4.9m), Mason Mount (£7.5m) and Kai Havertz (£8.0m).

That means another start for Reece James (£6.2m), who has four goals and four assists from nine Premier League appearances this term, plus Trevor Chalobah (£4.8m). As a result, Cesar Azpilicueta (£5.8m) is once again a substitute, along with Romelu Lukaku (£11.5m) who is back from injury.

The headline news for Man Utd, who will have Michael Carrick in the dugout, is that Cristiano Ronaldo (£12.4m) drops to the bench with Bruno Fernandes (£11.6m), Jadon Sancho (£8.9m) and Marcus Rashford (£9.4m) preferred in the attacking roles.

GAMEWEEK 13 LINE-UPS

Chelsea XI: Mendy, Chalobah, Thiago Silva, Rudiger, James, Loftus-Cheek, Jorginho, Alonso, Ziyech, Hudson-Odoi, Werner

Subs: Arrizabalaga, Christensen, Lukaku, Pulisic, Saul, Barkley, Mount, Azpilicueta, Havertz

Man Utd XI: De Gea, Wan-Bissaka, Lindelof, Bailly, Telles, Fred, Matic, McTominay, Fernandes, Sancho, Rashford

Subs: Henderson, Jones, Ronaldo, Mata, Martial, Greenwood, Lingard, Dalot, Van de Beek

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  1. FPL_Crisis
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    2 years, 4 months ago

    I’m that guy who bought in both Cancelo and James for -4 this week. Joy

    1. Athletico Underachieving
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      Ouch. I’m that guy who had exact money for Mbeumo to Jota but got scared and bought James in

    2. Dammit_182
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      Of the ‘main’ transfers in this week I think Jota was the only one too really pay off.

      1. FPL_Crisis
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        2 years, 4 months ago

        Yeh pretty much Jota was the difference.
        Happy that I went with gut and captained Trent over Mo and bought in Dennis too

    3. thegaffer82
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      A Cancelo & a James is not just for Christmas.
      You can set & forget those two now & worry about other things!

      1. FPL_Crisis
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        2 years, 4 months ago

        100 agree just the timing was awful and Kane & Foden no show

    4. Boyd to Sven
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      Good moves. You'll have many brighter days to come with them than without!

      1. FPL_Crisis
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        2 years, 4 months ago

        At least Dennis paid off so not all bad, to fund above moves

  2. Athletico Underachieving
    • 3 Years
    2 years, 4 months ago

    Ramsdale
    TAA, Rudi, James, Cancelo
    Salah, Son, Gallagher
    Antonio, Hwang, Vardy

    Foster, Mbeumo, Livra, Sissoko

    Poor week, 50 points, but save FT?

    1. Botman and Robben
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      Save

  3. Red Red Robins
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 3 Years
    2 years, 4 months ago

    Was all set for Vardy to Lukaku, but is it too soon?
    Thoughts on Lukaku starting next week?

    Or best to save my tfr?

    1. FPL_Crisis
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      What’s the rush with Lukaku. He wasn’t scoring beforehand best to wait

      1. TopBinFc
          2 years, 4 months ago

          This, Lukaku was in poor form before injury

      2. wulfrunian
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 4 months ago

        save for me

      3. Dammit_182
        • 3 Years
        2 years, 4 months ago

        Way too soon. Lukaku needs a few more fitness weeks and vardy is a pretty streaky player so this could spark a goal feat.

      4. Il Capitano
        • 3 Years
        2 years, 4 months ago

        save

      5. DARE TO BISCAN
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        2 years, 4 months ago

        Save

      6. Red Red Robins
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 3 Years
        2 years, 4 months ago

        Thanks all, guess ill wait and see
        Just Watford next

    2. YNWA74
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 2 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      This is a tricky one - will replace Chillwell for either James or Cancelo.
      Who is most likely to be rested for the mid-week fixture?

      1. EL_FENOMENO
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 4 months ago

        Both miss out midweek IMO

      2. TopBinFc
          2 years, 4 months ago

          I think both may get a rest, just my opinion

      3. g40steve
        • 6 Years
        2 years, 4 months ago

        Foden owners a week too late but Jota?

        1. TopBinFc
            2 years, 4 months ago

            I'd keep, surely hes back midweek?

            1. g40steve
              • 6 Years
              2 years, 4 months ago

              I waited for weeks almost as bad as owning Digne

              1. TopBinFc
                  2 years, 4 months ago

                  Yeah fair point, I'm thinking of avoiding city players going forward, less of a headache

            2. Dammit_182
              • 3 Years
              2 years, 4 months ago

              I think think Jota is a better asset going forwards.

              1. g40steve
                • 6 Years
                2 years, 4 months ago

                Me too

              2. bench boost for every gamew…
                • 7 Years
                2 years, 4 months ago

                Origi starts Vs Everton so one of Jota, mane or Salah is benched, from history Salah often gets his Christmas rest in this gw but the Milan game is perhaps the one this year as they qualified already. Skonto Rigga posted the history of Salah bench.
                Either way bringing in Jota before Everton is risk with Origi starting. It means either bench or a lesser team mate to play with-)

                1. FPL_Crisis
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 13 Years
                  2 years, 4 months ago

                  Salah starts vs Everton. Maybe sits (if any) for Wolves

                  1. bench boost for every gamew…
                    • 7 Years
                    2 years, 4 months ago

                    Ove only said Origi will start as 1 of the front 3. That implicates one of them is benched, and i quoted Skonto Rigga post here who said which gw Salah has been rested in in prior season. And it keaces Jota in danger of not playing with better team mate or from bench. My guess is Jota starts cause Klopp wants his New players to play in the mersey side derby and not sure Jota played from start at Goodison last year. My guess is Jota, Mane and Origi.

                    1. FPL_Crisis
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 13 Years
                      2 years, 4 months ago

                      Tricky as Mane already had a rest this season. Klopp usually bases it on who’s looking sharp in training.
                      Origi has done well vs Everton. It’s whether Jota starts vs his old team but I find it hard to believe Salah doesn’t play vs Everton in the derby.
                      I think CL is a non factor cause they could easily play Origi Minamino Ox and rest regular front 3.

                    2. TopBinFc
                        2 years, 4 months ago

                        Why you so sure Origi starts?

                    3. Bennerman
                      • 5 Years
                      2 years, 4 months ago

                      Surely this is worthy of an 'in my opinion'?

                      It just sounds pompous stating these things as god-given facts

                      1. Bennerman
                        • 5 Years
                        2 years, 4 months ago

                        I'm on about "Salah starts v Everton" etc. Weird way this ZX Spectrum website organises these conversations

                      2. FPL_Crisis
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 13 Years
                        2 years, 4 months ago

                        Not you again. Nothing better to do?

                        Surely by me having a conversation it’s already just my opinion and I don’t need to caveat it by saying oh btw that’s just my opinion.

                        Not like I was having a go at Bench Boost above saying I know I’m right….geez

            3. Atimis
              • 7 Years
              2 years, 4 months ago

              Having some hard time choosing :

              1) Chilwell Raph Mbeumo to Alonso Jota Gilmour -8
              2) Raph Chilwell to Jota Lamptey -4
              3) Chilwell to Alonso

              1. TopBinFc
                  2 years, 4 months ago

                  3

              2. Root
                • 12 Years
                2 years, 4 months ago

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                f off

              3. Flynny
                • 9 Years
                2 years, 4 months ago

                Evening....what move would you look to make here please? 0.5mitb. 1ft

                Thinking a simple dias to alonso. And then mbeumo out transfer after. Thanks

                Ramsdale
                Taa James cancelo dias (livra)
                Salah jota raphinha (mbeumo normann)
                Kane antonio king

                1. Bennerman
                  • 5 Years
                  2 years, 4 months ago

                  This is a great week for saving a transfer in my opinion, deadline is here before you know it. I'd just wait and then sort it out

                  1. TopBinFc
                      2 years, 4 months ago

                      Yeah good point, and alot of players may be rested

                2. balint84
                  • 7 Years
                  2 years, 4 months ago

                  Jesus or Jimenez?

                  1. Weak Become Heros
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 5 Years
                    2 years, 4 months ago

                    No Jimi, one more nice fixture then they drop massively.

                    1. TopBinFc
                        2 years, 4 months ago

                        Yeah, I'm keeping one more GW then transfer out

                  2. Norco
                    • 9 Years
                    2 years, 4 months ago

                    2FT not sure what to do:

                    1. Saka > Bowen
                    2. Foden > Jota
                    3. Jimenez > Wilson

                    1. g40steve
                      • 6 Years
                      2 years, 4 months ago

                      Think I am doing 2 look above.

                    2. TopBinFc
                        2 years, 4 months ago

                        Bowen didn't start today, Newcastle so poor and Foden may be back

                        1. Norco
                          • 9 Years
                          2 years, 4 months ago

                          Yeah I think I could atleast ship out Saka for someone or Jimenez.

                          I want Jota but Foden also has juicy fixtures.

                          1. TopBinFc
                              2 years, 4 months ago

                              Saka scored at weekend, unless he is injured, I'd keep Jimi ome more week

                              1. Norco
                                • 9 Years
                                2 years, 4 months ago

                                He did go off injured but looked great. Might have just been his day

                                1. Baps hunter
                                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                  • 6 Years
                                  2 years, 4 months ago

                                  He has Everton, Leeds and Norwich soon. My plan was to sell him, but he has been basically unlucky before today (compared to ESR at least) and he is capable to get returns. So I am not happy to ditch him now.

                      • Slitherene
                        • 6 Years
                        2 years, 4 months ago

                        Roll over the FT's?

                        Sanchez ¦ Steele
                        TAA Cancelo Rudiger Reguilon Livra
                        Salah Son Jota Gallagher
                        Vardy
                        ¦ Mbeumo Dennis Davis

                        2 FT, 0.2 ITB

                      • Weak Become Heros
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 5 Years
                        2 years, 4 months ago

                        Anything on why Bowen didn’t start?

                        1. Angelic upstart
                          • 6 Years
                          2 years, 4 months ago

                          A rest, he's played almost ever game this season

                          1. TopBinFc
                              2 years, 4 months ago

                              Funny time to rest him in huge game?

                              1. RogDog_jimmy
                                • 3 Years
                                2 years, 4 months ago

                                Went to a back 5 so there was one less attacking spot - makes sense it was Bowen who they’ll likely need for most games from now out.

                                Fornals and Bennie rested in Europe mid week.

                              2. DARE TO BISCAN
                                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                • 5 Years
                                2 years, 4 months ago

                                Could be looking to Arsenal Cup it. Beat the dross, hope it's enough for 4th

                            • Dammit_182
                              • 3 Years
                              2 years, 4 months ago

                              Yea, probably do him good resting up this week before the Christmas chaos

                          2. bench boost for every gamew…
                            • 7 Years
                            2 years, 4 months ago

                            Moyes often does this away to City, Liverpool etc. Tactical. So Bowen now had a rest is good for him, i am maybe thinking buying him and sell Antonio, might just leave him too. Double from 16 seems good. Arsenal seems to have a pattern with cs Vs lesser teams, but struggles Vs the best teams. West ham are in the second category. Also having both Bowen and Antonio is a differential in itself.

                        2. Tomas_brolin
                          • 5 Years
                          2 years, 4 months ago

                          What’s the better use of a FT this week?:

                          A. Dias to Alonso/James
                          B. ESR to raphinha for the next 2 weeks

                        3. Footieboot
                          • 3 Years
                          2 years, 4 months ago

                          Guaita
                          TAA Cancelo White Marcal Livra
                          Salah Foden Jota Raph Gilmour
                          Vardy Toney Antonio

                          2FT

                          A) Vardy + White + Marcal --> James + Alonso + Wilson -4
                          B) Foden + White + Marcal --> James + Alonso + Mbeumo -4
                          C) Toney + Marcal --> Davis/Locadia + James/Alonso

                          1. BeWater
                            • 3 Years
                            2 years, 4 months ago

                            If you are thinking of getting rid of Foden you could always get him out for Gallagher and upgrade Marcal to James for free. Or get Gundogan if you can afford it.

                            1. Footieboot
                              • 3 Years
                              2 years, 4 months ago

                              Honestly, don't wanna get rid of him but feel like switching to double Chelsea wing backs with their upcoming fixtures is a no brainer. Losing Foden hurts though. I like every player in my midfield-fwd line so I can't decide how the funds will be freed up for Chelsea defence.

                        4. matiakez
                          • 13 Years
                          2 years, 4 months ago

                          Best Saka replacement? Up to 6.5?

                          Current mid is Salah, Jota, Mbuemo, Brownhill

                          I'd lose Mbuemo instead if I could afford it

                          1. Norco
                            • 9 Years
                            2 years, 4 months ago

                            Gallagher?

                            1. matiakez
                              • 13 Years
                              2 years, 4 months ago

                              Thinking its him or Bowen currently?

                          2. Baps hunter
                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                            • 6 Years
                            2 years, 4 months ago

                            What are news about his injury? I was planning to bench him anyway this week.

                        5. Scots Gooner
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 7 Years
                          2 years, 4 months ago

                          Guaita
                          TAA / Cancelo / James / Alonso
                          Salah (c) / Jota / B Silva / Son
                          Wilson / Hwang

                          Steele / Toney / Livramento / Allan

                          Thought? Bench/bench order correct?

                          Is it a week gamble captaincy on someone besides Salah?

                          1. wulfrunian
                            • 7 Years
                            2 years, 4 months ago

                            Good to go.Salah.

                          2. Qaiss
                            • 8 Years
                            2 years, 4 months ago

                            Salah is still getting those points though man

                          3. TheTinman
                            • 8 Years
                            2 years, 4 months ago

                            I'm captaining Kane or Wilson. Because of Spurs rest I'll probably go Kane.

                          4. mdm
                            • 12 Years
                            2 years, 4 months ago

                            Son

                        6. T.Henry14
                          • 10 Years
                          2 years, 4 months ago

                          2FT here , 0.1 itb

                          Ramsdale (Foster)
                          TAA, Cancelo, James (White, Obamidele)
                          Salah, Son, Raphinha, Smith-Rowe (D.Luiz)
                          Vardy, Toney, Antonio

                          It seems that I could save the transfer for the next period.

                          A) Obamidele --> Thomas Amartey
                          B) Antonio ---> Wilson

                        7. The Royal Robin
                          • 8 Years
                          2 years, 4 months ago

                          Chilwell > Walker or Reguilon?

                          Already own double Chelsea defence.

                          1. matiakez
                            • 13 Years
                            2 years, 4 months ago

                            I'd go Reg if you have Cancelo

                          2. antis0cial
                            • 7 Years
                            2 years, 4 months ago

                            Reg

                          3. wulfrunian
                            • 7 Years
                            2 years, 4 months ago

                            Walker for me

                        8. Erez Avni
                          • 7 Years
                          2 years, 4 months ago

                          Lineup ok? bench order?

                          Ramsdale
                          TAA Rudy Cancelo James Livra
                          Salah Raphi Jota Son
                          Jimenez

                          Foster Mbuemo Broja King

                        9. barcaa7
                          • 6 Years
                          2 years, 4 months ago

                          Son and Mbeumo to Gundo and jota for free
                          yes or no ?

                          1. matiakez
                            • 13 Years
                            2 years, 4 months ago

                            Don't think you can ship Son before the next two

                          2. antis0cial
                            • 7 Years
                            2 years, 4 months ago

                            No. Why lose son before two great fixtures?

                          3. FPL Alaska
                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                            • 9 Years
                            2 years, 4 months ago

                            Why did you buy Son if you want to sell him now? Makes no sense.

                        10. FCSB
                          • 8 Years
                          2 years, 4 months ago

                          Rotation will probably make this decision for me but which one to bench:

                          1. Antonio (BHA)
                          2. Jimenez (BUR)
                          3. Gallagher (lee)
                          4. Raphinha (CRY)

                          Cheers

                          1. antis0cial
                            • 7 Years
                            2 years, 4 months ago

                            Tough one, Gallagher maybe

                          2. Well you know, Triffic
                            • 13 Years
                            2 years, 4 months ago

                            None of them

                          3. RogDog_jimmy
                            • 3 Years
                            2 years, 4 months ago

                            I’m doing Gallagher - it was between him and Raph for me. Home/Away makes the decision I think.

                            1. FCSB
                              • 8 Years
                              2 years, 4 months ago

                              I’ve just bought him in last week…

                              I suppose he is probably the best option isn’t he

                              1. RogDog_jimmy
                                • 3 Years
                                2 years, 4 months ago

                                Me too! Got an assist, a blank, and now he gets a bench.

                                No stress for me - he’s cheap.

                        11. RogDog_jimmy
                          • 3 Years
                          2 years, 4 months ago

                          Hope everyone’s week went well!

                          65(-4) - small green for me 111k > 87k.
                          James & Alonso in for -4 didn’t work but I’m set up to roll easy now.

                          Ramsdale
                          TAA, James, Cancelo, Alonso
                          Salah, Jota, Raphinha
                          Vardy, Antonio, Jimenez

                          Foster, Gallagher, Livramento, Brownhill

                          1. FCSB
                            • 8 Years
                            2 years, 4 months ago

                            Lovely team, jealous you have Jota

                            1. RogDog_jimmy
                              • 3 Years
                              2 years, 4 months ago

                              Have for weeks! Got him when Son “had” covid - instead of Mount and Foden who got massive hauls - nice to get the returns now.

                        12. Lord of Ings
                          • 8 Years
                          2 years, 4 months ago

                          G2G for next week?
                          Sanchez
                          Taa Regullion cancelo
                          Gundogan Jota salah(c) raphinha
                          Pukki Toney vardy(v)
                          Foster Livra Williams sarr*
                          No FT
                          1.8 ITB.

                        13. antis0cial
                          • 7 Years
                          2 years, 4 months ago

                          1.4itb, thoughts? Take a hit and get Son for Foden? Save? Benrahma to Silva?

                          Ramsdale
                          TAA Cancelo James Alonso
                          Salah Foden Jota Raph
                          Jimenez Antonio

                          Foster Benrahma Toney Livramento

                        14. Zimo
                          • 5 Years
                          2 years, 4 months ago

                          Quick yes or no? For transfer strategy (GW15 and 16) this currently GW14 team.
                          Mendy
                          James TAA Cancelo Alonso
                          Salah Jota Foden Trossard
                          Jesus Antonio
                          Foster ESR Dennis Livramento

                          GW15 Transfer: Mendy to Ramsdale
                          GW16 Transfer Antonio to Lukaku and Trossard to Gilmour (-4)

                          Leaves me with (for GW16)
                          Ramsdale
                          TAA Cancelo James Alonso
                          Salah Jota Foden ESR
                          Jesus Lukaku
                          Foster Dennis Livramento Gilmour

                        15. JariL
                          • 9 Years
                          2 years, 4 months ago

                          What striker would you have with Antonio in a 4-4-2 set-up if you could pick any?

                          1. antis0cial
                            • 7 Years
                            2 years, 4 months ago

                            Probably Lukaku when fit

                          2. ryacoo
                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                            • 8 Years
                            2 years, 4 months ago

                            Kane for now and then Ronaldo later maybe but depends on how nailed he looked under the new manager - assuming he'll start their easy fixtures

                        16. Well you know, Triffic
                          • 13 Years
                          2 years, 4 months ago

                          Got a feeling we are going to see some fpl scenes this week when Chelsea and City defence gets rotated.

                          1. TheTinman
                            • 8 Years
                            2 years, 4 months ago

                            They're so heavily owned its not a big deal. And if you haven't sorted your benches out then more fool you 😀

                          2. RogDog_jimmy
                            • 3 Years
                            2 years, 4 months ago

                            Lol for sure.
                            James and Cancelo benched probably.

                          3. Botman and Robben
                            • 7 Years
                            2 years, 4 months ago

                            Yup, James & Cancel man likely will not play.

                          4. matiakez
                            • 13 Years
                            2 years, 4 months ago

                            Good job Brownhill is nicely rested now..

                        17. Freshy
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 13 Years
                          2 years, 4 months ago

                          Anything on Dennis injury?

                          1. TorresMagic™
                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                            • Has Moderation Rights
                            • 14 Years
                            2 years, 4 months ago

                            Nothing freshy

                        18. ryacoo
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 8 Years
                          2 years, 4 months ago

                          Is it worth selling Jimenez (BUR) to King (CHE) a week earlier than planned if it means having the funds to sell Saka to Jota?

                          Would be 2 FTs and would bench King for Mbeumo (tot) this week

                        19. 1912 F.A Cup Winners
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 6 Years
                          2 years, 4 months ago

                          Anyone care having a stab at predicting Chelsea’s back 5 for the Watford match?? Correct me if I’m wrong but James, Rudiger, Thiago and Chalobah have all played 3 games in a week now