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Watford v Man City team news: Foden, Gundogan and Grealish return

After some underwhelming Fantasy returns in the first four Gameweek 15 fixtures of the day, there is a real chance for owners of Manchester City players to steal a march on those going without any this evening.

Pep Guardiola’s troops are away at Watford, who are now the only club without a clean sheet in 2021/22.

Kick-off at Vicarage Road is at 17:30 GMT.

There aren’t any real shocks with the two teamsheets, despite Pep Guardiola making five changes from the midweek win over Aston Villa.

Jack Grealish makes his first City start in a month, while Kyle Walker, Aymeric Laporte, Ilkay Gundogan and Phil Foden are all recalled after missing out through injury or suspension on Wednesday.

Guardiola’s pre-match comments about Foden, released from embargo on Friday evening, did plant a seed of doubt about whether the England international would feature from the off but he’s thrown straight back into the action tonight.

Nathan Ake, Oleksandr Zinchenko, Fernandinho, Riyad Mahrez and Gabriel Jesus make way from the starting XI, with the latter’s demotion to the bench perhaps the closest thing to an eyebrow-raising decision from the unpredictable City boss.

Watford’s team news is much more straightforward, with Claudio Ranieri making just the one change from the side that began the 2-1 loss to Chelsea on Wednesday. It’s an expected one, too, as Danny Rose comes in for the injured Adam Masina at left-back.

GAMEWEEK 15 LINE-UPS

Watford XI: Bachmann, Femenia, Troost-Ekong, Cathcart, Rose, Louza, Dennis, Cleverley, Sissoko, Pedro, King.

Subs: Elliot, Ngakia, Morris, Gosling, Fletcher, Tufan, Kabasele, Hernandez, Kucka.

Manchester City XI: Ederson, Cancelo, Dias, Laporte, Walker, Gundogan, Rodri, Grealish, Silva, Sterling, Foden.

Subs: Steffen, Carson, Stones, Ake, Jesus, Zinchenko, De Bruyne, Fernandinho, Mahrez.

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  1. vincentwsho
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    2 years, 3 months ago

    One FT... Raph to who?

    A) Bernado
    B) Jota

    1. BeWater
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 3 months ago

      B

    2. northernmuppet
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      2 years, 3 months ago

      B

    3. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
      • 14 Years
      2 years, 3 months ago

      I honestly don't really know -

      Pep is pep for A.

      Firmino and Origi lurking for B

      But Bernardo looked fantastic today and in previous games.
      B - just. Plus you should make team value on him.

      1. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
        • 14 Years
        2 years, 3 months ago

        I meant Bernardo - Bernardo starting with B confused me!

  2. Pedersen
    • 5 Years
    2 years, 3 months ago

    Alonso out for next gw? Can't really find any news estimating the extend of his injury

    1. Scholes Out For Summer
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      2 years, 3 months ago

      It’s been 12 hours… not even the club doctor will know at this point

  3. Reggie Nainggolan
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 3 months ago

    Who's a better pick?

    A) Foden
    B) Bsilva

    1. BERGKOP
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 3 months ago

      Same Q. Bilva hard to ignore atm

    2. Stranger Mings
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 3 months ago

      Foden as is he less likely to be rested now ?

    3. 2999 - Lady of Legend
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 3 months ago

      B)

  4. BeWater
    • 3 Years
    2 years, 3 months ago

    Foden v Bernardo being discussed a bit tonight so thought I'd post this in case it helps your decision.

    Bernardo v Foden per 90 data:

    Goals 0.52 v 0.39
    xG 0.30 v 0.38
    Shots 1.34 v 2.22
    On Target 0.82 v 1.31
    In the box 1.26 v 2.22
    Assists 0.07 v 0.26
    xA 0.23 v 0.37
    Attempted assists 1.56 v 1.96
    Big chance created 0.30 v 0.78
    Crosses 0.30 v 0.78

    1. putana
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 3 months ago

      nice stats, but im wondering how much they fluctuate based on what position either of them are playing

    2. Styles_X
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 3 months ago

      Foden looks better on the expected charts but on the eye test, Silva is equally good (if not better due to his current form). Also Silva is very clinical this season and his positioning is more central vs Foden.

      1. BeWater
        • 3 Years
        2 years, 3 months ago

        And he's also 0.7 cheaper right now.

        1. g40steve
          • 6 Years
          2 years, 3 months ago

          Scoring heavily as well

  5. putana
    • 5 Years
    2 years, 3 months ago

    anyone else considering doubling up on foden and bernardo?

    already have one of them and their upcoming fixtures are great

    1. Pat Bonner
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 3 months ago

      I have gundogan and tempted to get one other city mid and have a stronger bench for any rotation. Danger is 1pts cameos

      1. putana
        • 5 Years
        2 years, 3 months ago

        my reasoning is you are guaranteed at least one of them to start, most likely both

    2. Stranger Mings
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 3 months ago

      I am not as already for foden & Jesus but think worth doing

    3. Grande Tubarão
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 2 Years
      2 years, 3 months ago

      I’ve added Silva to Gundo tonight. 2 of the 3 + Cancelo is good imo

    4. Nate(U)dog(ie)
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 3 months ago

      Have both already myself, think it's worth the risk, both in great form and pop up all over the pitch in good positions and have good fixtures.

    5. Scholes Out For Summer
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      2 years, 3 months ago

      I doubled up on Gundo and Bernardo this week and Im loving it. If you have the funds I’d do it cause that’s the only way you’ll get a differential at this point

  6. Klip Klopp
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 3 months ago

    Which of these is the best transfer to make?

    A. Allan + Wilson --> B.Silva + 4.4 striker? (For a -4)

    B. Gallagher + Allan --> B.Silva + 4.4 (for a -4)

    C. Gallagher --> Bowen

    D. Smith-Rowe --> Bowen

    E. Smith-Rowe --> B.Silva

  7. tangtastic
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    2 years, 3 months ago

    If you could budget wise, would you do the triple up, triple up?

    TAA+Salah+Jota
    Cancelo+Bilva+Jesus
    Alonso+James+Mount
    +
    Vardy

    Sanchez in goal

    With a bench of Livramento+King+£4.5m fodder

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      2 years, 3 months ago

      Given the teams you don't cover, no.

    2. phoenixfromtheflames
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 3 months ago

      I am currently (although I'm not yet sure how great an idea it is) with:

      TAA+Salah+Jota,
      Cancelo+Bilva+Foden
      Alonso+James+Rudiger

      McCarthy in goals (selling for Ramsdale)
      Wilson (selling soon), Toney & Dennis to rotate up top.

      Gallagher is the remaining sub (considering a -4 for Bowen, or juggling to get Mount in for Alonso).

      High risk/high reward but may be ok through December, cameo dependent...

  8. TorresMagic™
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 14 Years
    2 years, 3 months ago

    Last Man Standing Update (1339 teams)

    Current safety score after autosubs = 27
    Top score = 61
    LMS average = 34.64 (-0.31) = 34.33
    Players played = 8.11/12
    Captains left = 6.2%

    EO over 10: Raphinha 61, Toney 49, Ramsdale 44, Son 40, ESR 36, Kane 35, Reggy 25, Vardy 23, Gallagher 15

    https://www.livefpl.net/LMS

    1. The Mighty Hippo
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 3 months ago

      I'm pushing my luck this time around. I'm slap bang on the safety score, hopefully I'll have enough to stay in LMS, but it feels as though this is going to be a tough week.

      1. TorresMagic™
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 14 Years
        2 years, 3 months ago

        I'm a Raphinha + Kane haul from being knocked out.

        1. Danno - Emre Canada
          • 9 Years
          2 years, 3 months ago

          I took a minus 8 so need a Son capt and Raphina something to show up

  9. 50pipsDaily
    • 10 Years
    2 years, 3 months ago

    Hi guys,

    Foden/Bilva in for Raphina & Dennis in for Wilson - Got to go?

    2fts 0.2itb

    1. Stranger Mings
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 3 months ago

      Yes

      1. 50pipsDaily
        • 10 Years
        2 years, 3 months ago

        Foden or Bilva?

        1. g40steve
          • 6 Years
          2 years, 3 months ago

          Bilva seems on fire recently

        2. Stranger Mings
          • 3 Years
          2 years, 3 months ago

          Foden as he maybe less likely to be rested now

          1. 50pipsDaily
            • 10 Years
            2 years, 3 months ago

            I was planning to bring in Foden, but this Bilva form make me think twice. Any price change on foden?

    2. Blue Moon Rising
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 3 months ago

      Silva whilst he’s in his purple patch, Foden for the season.

      Why get rid of Dennis now?

      1. Blue Moon Rising
        • 12 Years
        2 years, 3 months ago

        Misread*

  10. g40steve
    • 6 Years
    2 years, 3 months ago

    Any changes needed?

    Sa
    Rudiger, James, Cancelo, Trent,
    Salah, Jota, ESR, Bernardo
    Vardy, Toney,

    Steele, Dennis, Gallagher, Livramento

    .5

    1. Stranger Mings
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 3 months ago

      Can you afford Gallagher to Bowen ?

      1. g40steve
        • 6 Years
        2 years, 3 months ago

        Yep, for a hit

        1. Stranger Mings
          • 3 Years
          2 years, 3 months ago

          Oh wouldn’t for a hit

          1. g40steve
            • 6 Years
            2 years, 3 months ago

            Let’s see how the remaining games play out

  11. Disco Stu
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    2 years, 3 months ago

    Wilson to

    A. Kung

    B. Dennis

    1. Stranger Mings
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 3 months ago

      I went B) but think king was up top tonight so maybe him

      1. Disco Stu
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        2 years, 3 months ago

        Dennis has the form but King is on PKs

        1. Stranger Mings
          • 3 Years
          2 years, 3 months ago

          I went Dennis for that reason

    2. g40steve
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 3 months ago

      B always appears in the box or is assisting

    3. putana
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 3 months ago

      dennis seems the better player

    4. 2999 - Lady of Legend
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 3 months ago

      Den.

  12. HD7
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 3 months ago

    2FT:

    GW16:
    Raph, Kane, Cornet to Bernardo, Antonio, Bowen/Gallagher (-4) ?

    GW17: Dier to Cancelo

    Ramsdale
    Trent Rudi Dier James
    Saka Salah Raph Cornet*
    Kane Ronaldo

    Steele Livra Sissoko Scarlett

    1. Stranger Mings
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 3 months ago

      Can you just do raph & cornet out?

      1. HD7
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 3 months ago

        Bowen and Gallagher yes

  13. Stranger Mings
    • 3 Years
    2 years, 3 months ago

    Guys a) raphinha to Bowen & bench benteke or c) save & play benteke and do raph to Bowen GW17?

    1. 2999 - Lady of Legend
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 3 months ago

      a)

      1. Stranger Mings
        • 3 Years
        2 years, 3 months ago

        Thanks

    2. Fish up a tree
      • 2 Years
      2 years, 3 months ago

      I would play Benteke against Everton’s defence but still bring in Bowen & bench someone else or save

      1. Stranger Mings
        • 3 Years
        2 years, 3 months ago

        Ok cheers but who out of?
        Reguilion, TAA, James, cancello ESR, jota, salah, foden,
        Dennis & Jesus

        1. Fish up a tree
          • 2 Years
          2 years, 3 months ago

          Would create a bench headache for sure!

          Bench Dennis but see how the games go tomorrow with Reg & Benteke

          1. Stranger Mings
            • 3 Years
            2 years, 3 months ago

            Ok cheers

  14. BeWater
    • 3 Years
    2 years, 3 months ago

    Seen a couple of comments saying Gundogan's minutes might be under threat with KDB back. But Gundo, Rodri and KDB could be the midfield 3 with Bernardo right wing. He's played there a hell of a lot in his career.

    1. Grande Tubarão
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 2 Years
      2 years, 3 months ago

      They’re right. His minutes might be limited. So might absolutely everyone else in that City side.

      1. Gabbiadini
        • 6 Years
        2 years, 3 months ago

        Yes, this also.
        I think there was a thread on Twitter, which shows City assets aren't great owns over the Christmas period.

        However, it's their fixtures.

    2. Lord of Ings
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 3 months ago

      Pep does like Gundogan a lot
      In his best team I guess Gundogan does make it..
      Kdb rodri gundo
      Jesus/Sterling Bilva foden

      1. BeWater
        • 3 Years
        2 years, 3 months ago

        That's always been my feeling too.

    3. Blue Moon Rising
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 3 months ago

      No. Silva’s not been part of the front 3 much this season. He’s in the midfield 3.

      It’ll be

      Rodri (nailed)

      De bruyne/Gundogan

      Bsilva

      Then three rotating from:

      Jesus/Sterling/Grealish/Foden/Torres

      Foden most nailed, Sterling 2nd

      1. BeWater
        • 3 Years
        2 years, 3 months ago

        Do you own any City mids at the moment? Which one would you pick?

        1. Blue Moon Rising
          • 12 Years
          2 years, 3 months ago

          Foden and Bsilva are both good picks. If you can only get one right now, get Silva. Foden long term as I don’t think Silva’s form will last. Sterling a possible differential as he has a high ceiling and he’s back in favour with Pep. However he’s so much more expensive and still carries hrotation risk - higher than Foden and Silva.

          1. BeWater
            • 3 Years
            2 years, 3 months ago

            Thanks mate.

  15. 2999 - Lady of Legend
    • 3 Years
    2 years, 3 months ago

    GW20, Tues 28 Dec.
    If I use Wildcard is it the first or second one?

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      2 years, 3 months ago

      1st before that deadline.

    2. BeWater
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 3 months ago

      The Wildcard chip can be used twice a season. The first wildcard will be available from the start of the season until Tue 28 Dec 11:00.

      So I guess you have to activate it after the GW19 deadline.

    3. 2999 - Lady of Legend
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 3 months ago

      Thanks guys 🙂

  16. Lord of Ings
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 3 months ago

    Unless I’ve a luxury transfer to burn,
    Gundogan to foden/bilva shouldn’t be a priority right?
    Like you’d probably use those transfers on getting likes of Ronaldo Sancho Bowen or just get Gundogan to foden/Bilva done ?

    1. Lord of Ings
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 3 months ago

      Anyone?

    2. Gabbiadini
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 3 months ago

      Yeh I like Foden, personally.

      1. Lord of Ings
        • 8 Years
        2 years, 3 months ago

        Well I do like foden too.
        But it’s better prioritising getting Sancho Ronnie Bowen these kind of players over doing Gundogan to foden right?

        1. Gabbiadini
          • 6 Years
          2 years, 3 months ago

          possibly, yes.
          More of a chance of climbing rank that way.

    3. 2999 - Lady of Legend
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 3 months ago

      Would go Bernardo, regret not getting him a while ago.

      1. Gabbiadini
        • 6 Years
        2 years, 3 months ago

        Yes, I could've got B Silva this week, however, I didn't do that as I wanted Foden.
        Almost got to grab Foden otherwise I'm accepting I made the wrong call.

        1. 2999 - Lady of Legend
          • 3 Years
          2 years, 3 months ago

          Don't think you can go wrong with Foden either to be fair.

          1. Gabbiadini
            • 6 Years
            2 years, 3 months ago

            yeh.

  17. Bobby Digital
    • 6 Years
    2 years, 3 months ago

    Would you get Dennis if you were on a wildcard?

    1. Stranger Mings
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 3 months ago

      Yea

    2. 2999 - Lady of Legend
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 3 months ago

      Yes.

    3. Gabbiadini
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 3 months ago

      Yes, City blank was kind of expected. Good upcoming fixtures.

  18. Gabbiadini
    • 6 Years
    2 years, 3 months ago

    Best 4.0 defender and below?

    1. Lord of Ings
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 3 months ago

      Brandon Williams only option right now I guess.

      1. Gabbiadini
        • 6 Years
        2 years, 3 months ago

        Don't like Goode?

      2. BeWater
        • 3 Years
        2 years, 3 months ago

        Was looking earlier. With Johnson possibly being injured Williams is the only one left.

        1. Gabbiadini
          • 6 Years
          2 years, 3 months ago

          Goode, not an option?
          Both Ajer and Zanka are long term injuries, no?

          1. BeWater
            • 3 Years
            2 years, 3 months ago

            Actually he will get minutes for the next few gameweeks at least.

            1. Gabbiadini
              • 6 Years
              2 years, 3 months ago

              Yes, I've read that his two most recent games have been pretty good.
              I've watched nothing more than short highlights, though.

    2. 2999 - Lady of Legend
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 3 months ago

      B.williams? Although he can't play Man U next game.

      1. Gabbiadini
        • 6 Years
        2 years, 3 months ago

        Yes, this is right.
        Norwich too :/

  19. Paqueta Rice
    • 3 Years
    2 years, 3 months ago

    Just watched the Liverpool highlights and saw that Jota miss. Wow, that’s bad…

    1. Gabbiadini
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 3 months ago

      He'll be asking himself too, why power and not placement?

  20. Lord of Ings
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 3 months ago

    **
    Unless I’ve a luxury transfer to burn,
    Gundogan to foden/bilva shouldn’t be a priority right?
    Like you’d probably use those transfers on getting likes of Ronaldo Sancho Bowen or just get Gundogan to foden/Bilva done ?

    1. BeWater
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 3 months ago

      I don't think that's something you need to do. Have a look at it again Friday and you might think differently.

  21. Slurpy
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 3 months ago

    anyone considering a city double up of Foden and Bilva?

    1. Freshy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      2 years, 3 months ago

      yes
      1-1/2 hrs to decide

      1. Freshy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        2 years, 3 months ago

        Got Foden already
        Alonso+Raphina to Reguilón+BSilva

        1. Slurpy
          • 8 Years
          2 years, 3 months ago

          ive got Bilva but am .1 shy of doing Toney and Raph to Dennis and Foden

    2. Stranger Mings
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 3 months ago

      Think no brainer

    3. Blue Moon Rising
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 3 months ago

      Why not.

    4. THE SHEEP HUNTERS
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 3 months ago

      I want sustanance and that could be KDB and Jesus/Sterling next week.
      I'm settling on Cancelo and Walker and gambling on one of them attackers. It's tricky, could be rewarding, but tricky.
      Actually it's always been a minefield, we know that but we still keep smacking moles.

  22. Kryptonite666
    • 4 Years
    2 years, 3 months ago

    Need some advice so as not to made price changes related transfers

    Guaita
    TAA Cancelo James Alonso Livramento
    Salah Son Jota ESR Mbeumo
    Vardy Toney Dennis

    Would you do Alonso + Mbeumo to Bernardo + Johnson for -4 (Johnson will be 3rd sub)

    1. Kryptonite666
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 3 months ago

      * make

  23. Champions League Varane
    • 5 Years
    2 years, 3 months ago

    It’s heavy but..

    Alonso, Kane, Raph -> Benrahmha/ESR Dias Ronaldo -8?

    1. Kryptonite666
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 3 months ago

      Never worth a -8

  24. Mackans
    • 6 Years
    2 years, 3 months ago

    Interesting thought:

    Isn’t it a good idea to triple captain Salah soon, maybe against Newcastle in two weeks? He is arguably in the best form any FPL player ever has had, and you almost now he will get you points. I feel like TC in DGW does not always pay off..

    1. 2999 - Lady of Legend
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 3 months ago

      I would still go for the DGW, despite Salah TC only getting me 4 points last season.

  25. Mackans
    • 6 Years
    2 years, 3 months ago

    Son to Bernardo Silva?

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      2 years, 3 months ago

      Might be a GW late.

  26. Muscout
    • 4 Years
    2 years, 3 months ago

    A) Bernardo
    B) Foden

    1. Gabbiadini
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 3 months ago

      b

  27. Voodoo
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    2 years, 3 months ago

    I can afford Gundo to BSilva tonight but won’t be able to after price rise.

    Should I hit the button?

    1. Gabbiadini
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 3 months ago

      probably, yes.

  28. HD7
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 3 months ago

    A) Raph Cornet to Bowen, Gallagher

    B) Kane Raph Cornet to Antonio, Bilva Bowen (-4)

  29. Kryptonite666
    • 4 Years
    2 years, 3 months ago

    What are double CHE defense / Alonso owners dojng with Alonso ?

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      2 years, 3 months ago

      He's sold tonight or waiting for injury news.

  30. Kodap
    • 6 Years
    2 years, 3 months ago

    Current team after making some moves is the following, I know I now have a really strong bench & may have a headache each week, is it worth downgrading anyone? Ie.. Toney > Borja and play 352?

    Sanchez
    TAA - Rudiger - Cancelo - James
    Salah - Son - Jota - Bernardo
    Antonio - Toney

    Steele - Dennis - ESR - Lamptey