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Learning from ‘The Great and The Good’ FPL managers ahead of Gameweek 17

Fantasy Football Scout community writer Greyhead continues with his series of articles analysing the Fantasy Premier League (FPL) transfers and strategies of some noted Fantasy managers, from serial top 10k finishers to well-known faces.

The Great and The Good this year are the Scouts Joe LepperNeale RiggGeoff Dance and Tom Freeman, FPL Wire’s Zophar, from the Hall of Fame Fabio BorgesFPLMatthewYavuz Kabuk and Tom Stephenson, Blackbox’s Az and Mark Sutherns, FPL “celebrities” LTFPL AndyMagnus Carlsen and FPL General plus last year’s mini-league winner Les Caldwell.


“I don’t know where I’m goin’

But I sure know where I’ve been

Hanging on the promises in songs of yesterday

An’ I’ve made up my mind, I ain’t wasting no more time

Here I go again, here I go again”

Not again. This all feels strangely familiar, as our preparations for the weekend were once again blighted by Covid-19 cases and a match cancellation – even when the action started, it felt like we were repeating everything one more time as VAR grabbed the headlines after a raft of dubious penalty decisions.

Perhaps more alarming was that ominous feeling it is going to get much, much worse as midweek rotation and further Covid chaos beckons, no matter how many hits we take or how much we have boosted our bench strength.

OVERALL PERFORMANCE

The race to be the greatest of ‘The Great and The Good’ is looking to be closer than the Formula One finale as Az regained the advantage over FPL General and Tom Stephenson, but there are still only 11 points separating the top three.

Yet, it was a little further down the table where we find this week’s top performer, as Yavuz Kabuk scored 79 points, gained a green arrow of 75k and moved off the bottom, leaving Mark Sutherns – who probably for his own sanity no longer reads these updates – cast adrift in 15th.

Conor Gallagher (£6.1m) was no doubt the hero for Yavuz with his 15-point haul but Aaron Ramsdale (£5.0m) continued to prove his doubters wrong with a second double-digit return and Antonio Rudiger (£6.1m) was Saturday’s unlikely assist supreme.

Spare a thought for Zophar and Tom Stephenson, who would have been this week’s joint top scorers but for leaving Gallagher’s 15 points on their bench.

TRANSFERS

This is a summary of the transfers for this week :

Az – King, Ronaldo (Toney, Kane)

LTFPL Andy – Ronaldo (Kane)

Fabio Borges – Ronaldo, James, Sissoko, Guaita (Toney, Son, Livramento, Foster)

Joe Lepper – Ronaldo, Bowen (Kane, Raphinha)

Geoff Dance – Antonio, Rashford, King (Brownhill, Kane, Toney)

FPL General – Bowen, Bernardo Silva (Son, Brownhill)

Les Caldwell – De Gea, Dennis, Mount (Steele, Kane, Raphinha)

Magnus Carlsen – Antonio, Cancelo, King, De Gea (Toney, Sanchez, Kane, Williams)

Mark Sutherns – Dennis, Bowen (Toney, Son)

FPL Matthew – Ronaldo, Bernardo Silva, King (Toney, Kane, Raphina)

Neale Rigg – Bowen, Ronaldo (Kane, Raphinha)

Tom Freeman – Ronaldo, Dalot, Guaita (Kane, Regulion, Foster)

Tom Stephenson – King, Ronaldo (Toney, Kane)

Yavuz Kabuk – Bowen, Bernardo Silva (Jota, Raphinha)

Zophar – King, Ronaldo (Kane, Toney)

Hits, hits and more hits as the Spurs postponement plunged The Great and The Good into panic, with 14 of the 15 selling Tottenham players with Magnus Carlsen and Fabio Borges taking their first transfer penalties of the season in style by spending eight points.

Les Caldwell again proved to have impeccable timing: David De Gea (£5.0m), Emmanuel Dennis (£5.8m) and Mason Mount (£7.6m) all provided immediate returns.

TEMPLATE

The template for ‘The Great and The Good’ is as follows, with the number in brackets showing how many teams each player appears in:

Foster (9), Ramsdale (6)

Alexander-Arnold (15), Cancelo (15), James (13), Livramento (11), Alonso (6)

Salah (15), Jota (13), Mbuemo (7), Brownhill (6), Gallagher/Raphinha/Bowen (5)

Antonio (13), King (12), Ronaldo (11)

Unsurprisingly, the forward line has seen an overhaul, as popular transfers of Cristiano Ronaldo (£12.5m) and Joshua King (£5.8m) coming in for Harry Kane (£12.1m) and Ivan Toney (£6.6m) are replicated in the overall squad template.

There appears to be less consensus on the fourth midfield spot. Jarrod Bowen (£6.5m) and Gallagher have joined the debate but did they all forget James Maddison (£6.8m)?

FOLLOWING THE TEMPLATE

As we enter the festive period, I thought it’d be worth investigating ‘The Great and The Good’ squads to see how template they are by using Live FPL (built by Ragabolly) which, along with live rank updates, provides a comparison of your squad against the template. You can read how this is calculated here.

You can see below how the squads compare, plus how this compares to Gameweek 3 when I last had a look under the covers. Bear in mind that the usual guidance is a 50-70% match that allows for a balance of ownership and differential.

There is no doubt that the template is working again as our top three of Az, Tom Stephenson and FPL General have a rating of 86-87%.

If you want differentials then keep an eye on Geoff Dance, Les Caldwell and Tom Freeman, although the latter two were more successful this week, Mount and Diogo Dalot (£4.5m) are good examples of how they have made themselves stand out.

CUP UPDATE

Before I go, as always there were a couple of cup upsets to report on. Kamelista gets the headlines for dumping Mark Sutherns out of the cup, despite being ranked at over two million and having not made a transfer since Gameweek 10.

However, the biggest giant-killing was Khaled Costa, whose score of 74 was enough to see off FPL General – some 5,127,939 places ahead of Costa in the overall rankings.

CONCLUSION

There’s no time to think before we jump into our next round of chaos, with Aston Villa and Manchester United the latest clubs to make us worry about further postponements. Now is not the time to have inactive benches so boost that pine but brace yourself for some seasonal disappointment.

Anyway, that’s all from me for now and remember: don’t have nightmares.

For those affected by any of the topics raised in the above article then you can find me here on Twitter.

608 Comments Post a Comment
  1. dark91
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 4 months ago

    Did Sanchez, Reguillon, and Kane
    -> Cristiano, Dalot, and DDG
    last GW

    Will let you know which trio I bring in this GW to avoid them

    1. The Count of Monte Cristo
      • 11 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      Ugh, that's so unlucky. Head up mate, points around the corner for you.

      1. dark91
        • 8 Years
        2 years, 4 months ago

        Hope so. Thanks

    2. I Member
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      They got you 24 points last GW. Could be worse.

      1. dark91
        • 8 Years
        2 years, 4 months ago

        It was for a -8 with the intention of it being a long term investment. If I move them out again it would mean the net gain is 8 points only 🙂

  2. only2
    • 11 Years
    2 years, 4 months ago

    Got King already and need a cheap striker. How about Pukki instead of Dennis? Fear Dennis will go to AFCON

    1. Gabbiadini
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      I'd still go Dennis, worry about that when it happens.

      1. RamaJama
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        2 years, 4 months ago

        This

        1. only2
          • 11 Years
          2 years, 4 months ago

          yeah, might just double up, thanks for the input!

      2. only2
        • 11 Years
        2 years, 4 months ago

        ty, might double up, will at least consider it!

  3. Definitely not sleeping
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 3 Years
    2 years, 4 months ago

    Dalot and CR7 to TAA and Antonio for a -4 hit?

    1. Gabbiadini
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      no

      1. Definitely not sleeping
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 3 Years
        2 years, 4 months ago

        Any suggestions? Will have two missing players come Tuesday

    2. I Member
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      Yes sounds good.

    3. Fabreghastly
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      Yes

  4. Fish up a tree
    • 2 Years
    2 years, 4 months ago

    Player pool being condensed, all our teams will merge into one!

    1. Bobby Digital
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      Singularity

  5. Gabbiadini
    • 6 Years
    2 years, 4 months ago

    Any 4.0 defenders, who will be playing this week that have CS potential, I don't think so but may have missed someone?

    1. Firmino
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      Maybe Williams

    2. SAKA AND EMILE SMITH ROWE
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      Potentially B.Williams but Villa likely to score

    3. Gabbiadini
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      Thanks,
      I am not sure he is completely nailed. Giannoulis played well against United.

  6. Cruicky
    • 12 Years
    2 years, 4 months ago

    At this stage, the Premier League are better off enforcing a winter break and playing all these games in the New Year.

    Either way, there'll be mass fixture congestion next year, which I'm sure the players won't like. Just makes the decision to host the World Cup in Qatar next Winter even more ludicrous.

    1. Gabbiadini
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      can't do that with a WC also next year.

      1. Pacer.
        • 9 Years
        2 years, 4 months ago

        Isn't that in winter

        1. Gabbiadini
          • 6 Years
          2 years, 4 months ago

          the point is, it adds to the number of games within a calendar year.

  7. tc93
    • 5 Years
    2 years, 4 months ago

    1FT, 3.6 ITB- what would you do? Bench is looking weak

    1) Roll FT
    2) Davis —> Watkins
    3) Williams —> Tomayasu/Bavis/Lamptey

    Rest:
    Ramsdale
    TAA / James / Alonso
    Salah / B.Silva / Jota / Bowen / Foden
    King

    Foster, Williams, Davis, Cancelo.

    1. Bobby Digital
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      2

      1. tc93
        • 5 Years
        2 years, 4 months ago

        Oops typo- missed Antonio out upfront next to king

      2. tc93
        • 5 Years
        2 years, 4 months ago

        Still do the same?

        1. Bobby Digital
          • 6 Years
          2 years, 4 months ago

          Roll

  8. KieranKA
    • 2 Years
    2 years, 4 months ago

    What do I do? 1 FT, 1.5 ITB.

    Sánchez // Foster**
    Trent James Reguilón** Livramento // Cancelo**
    Salah Bernardo Raphinha // Brownhill Mbeumo**
    Vardy** Antonio King

    If Spurs/Leicester is on:
    (A) Raphinha → Jota
    (B) Raphinha, Vardy → Jota, Watkins (–4)
    (C) Raphinha, Vardy → Gallagher, Lukaku (–4)

    If Spurs/Leicester is off:
    (D) Reguilón, Vardy → Dias, Watkins (–4)
    (E) Raphinha, Vardy → Jota, Watkins (–4)

    Thoughts?

  9. barcaa7
    • 6 Years
    2 years, 4 months ago

    DDG to Ramsdale for -4 ?

    1. Bobby Digital
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      Nope

    2. Abaddon
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      Sure. Why not

  10. yanky
    • 14 Years
    2 years, 4 months ago

    why is ronaldo > watkins popular? isnt it true that villa (and norwich) also have covid cases and is at risk or no?

    1. Sun Jihai
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      Not fully sure on the Watkins love
      3 shots on target and 0.96 xG in his last 6 matches (2 goals) isn't the most compelling

  11. sully29
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    2 years, 4 months ago

    If you have Mbeumo and want to downgrade are there any decent options?

    Or is it a case of either upgrading or getting in one of the 4.5mids and diverting the money elsewhere?

    1. Gabbiadini
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      I'm looking at upgrading, looking at Foden.

    2. dunas_dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      Looking at Foden also

    3. waldo666
      • 13 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      I only have the cash to essentially do a straight swap, Gray, McGinn and Odegaard on the short list.

  12. SAKA AND EMILE SMITH ROWE
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 4 months ago

    McArthur, Ronaldo, Livramento to Sterling, Pukki, Walker (-4) is tempting!

    Would leave me with:

    Ramsdale
    TAA Alonso Walker
    Salah Sterling Son Jota
    Pukki King Dennis

    Cornet, Manquillo, Cancelo

    1. Max City
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      Isn't Walker a red cards magnet?

  13. gonzalocampos
    • 9 Years
    2 years, 4 months ago

    Planning on changing Jimenez to Watkins (Jimenez about to drop). Any news about Watkins covid related?

    1. pablo discobar
      • 14 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      2 villa have covid. No names mentioned. It's a gamble but odds in your favour

      1. Max City
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 4 months ago

        The odds is like 23/25?

    2. I Member
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      I would ignore price changes and wait as late as possible to get as much info as possible.

      1. gonzalocampos
        • 9 Years
        2 years, 4 months ago

        True

    3. Konig Luther
      • 11 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      he appeared on training pictures

  14. Amartey Partey
    • 4 Years
    2 years, 4 months ago

    I'm guessing Brighton v Wolves will be the next game called off?

    1. Gabbiadini
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      Not sure how many that would actually affect.
      Not me, apart from Steele.

  15. Ronaldo owners, what’s the plan?
    FPLMACKEM
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 3 Years
    2 years, 4 months ago

    Ronaldo owners what's the plan?

    A keep
    B sell with 1ft
    C sell including a -4

    1. JBG
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      C had Mbeumo as well.

      1. Max City
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 4 months ago

        What if you had Ronaldo, Mbeumo, Cancelo, Reguilon, Benteke, Townsend?

        1. JBG
          • 5 Years
          2 years, 4 months ago

          Ball up and cry.

        2. AzzaroMax99
          • 7 Years
          2 years, 4 months ago

          I have 7 players that won’t play (if Villa is off to) so probably will use FH.

    2. Definitely not sleeping
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      Doing a C

    3. Slurpy
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      keep

    4. Piggs Boson
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      Keep.

      No one good to bring in, and I'd just want him back next week.

      Time to roll up my sleeves and go Brownhill deep...

      1. FPLMACKEM
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 3 Years
        2 years, 4 months ago

        I would have to play Brownhill and livramento!

      2. Yes Ndidi
        • 4 Years
        2 years, 4 months ago

        I'm heading into Brownhill territory as well.

    5. waldo666
      • 13 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      A

    6. Gabbiadini
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      obviously a

    7. Yes Ndidi
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      Keep. If you have him, you have him with this run in mind. The games have still got to be played sometime. Hopefully you have some kind of bench to cover it.

      1. FPLMACKEM
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 3 Years
        2 years, 4 months ago

        Just Brownhill and livramento. Not good I know.

        1. Yes Ndidi
          • 4 Years
          2 years, 4 months ago

          Its why you've got them though, a 3-deep playing bench. I'm seeing your Brownhill & Livra and raising it a Bachmann and Wilson.
          Points is points, baby.

    8. Amartey Partey
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      Keeping. No point in selling as I will just want him back.

    9. Viper
      • 14 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      Ronaldo & Raphinha -> Watkins & Foden (-4) my current thinking

      1. FPLMACKEM
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 3 Years
        2 years, 4 months ago

        I'm thinking Ronaldo and Brownhill to Watkins and Jota for a -4. Other wise I might just hold my nerve and roll the transfer. Grit my teeth and hope there's not too much damage done this gw.

      2. I Member
        • 8 Years
        2 years, 4 months ago

        Same plan here.

        1. FPLMACKEM
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 3 Years
          2 years, 4 months ago

          Which one the -4 or hold?

          1. I Member
            • 8 Years
            2 years, 4 months ago

            The -4.

    10. rainy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      Keep, and wait for news on Saturday’s match

    11. El Lobito 10
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      Got Raphinha off the bench. Think he has a good chance at the Emptyhad

    12. Sarri-ball
      • 14 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      A) keep play bowen hope game not off sat

      1. Andy_Social
        • 11 Years
        2 years, 4 months ago

        Insufficient information. Before the deadline I need to know

        1. Is it just the one United game called off?
        2. Does the Villa game go ahead?

    13. wulfrunian
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      b

    14. Chemical76
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      A
      Having nothing in bank to buy him back

  16. Joey Jo-Jo Junior Shabadoo
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 3 Years
    2 years, 4 months ago

    Leicester game, Arsenal game, Spurs v Liverpool, Watkins, ... there are so many unknowns that taking hits is a dangerous ploy and everybody seems to be going about it wrong.
    You need to use your transfers for the rescheduled doubles, when certainty returns, taking hits right now when entire games are clearly at risk is just stupid imo.
    Just get the best team out you can without hits.

  17. JBG
    • 5 Years
    2 years, 4 months ago

    Great... Had to take another -4 because of Brentford - MU. This season has been a shtshow imo. Never taken so many hits not only this early but whole season.

    1. Bobby Digital
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      I've taken none

      1. Amartey Partey
        • 4 Years
        2 years, 4 months ago

        Nice! What's your current rank?

      2. Viper
        • 14 Years
        2 years, 4 months ago

        Either have I

  18. tc93
    • 5 Years
    2 years, 4 months ago

    1FT, 3.6 ITB- what would you do? Bench is looking weak

    1) Roll FT
    2) Davis —> Watkins
    3) Williams —> Tomayasu/Bavis/Lamptey

    Rest:
    Ramsdale
    TAA / James / Alonso
    Salah / B.Silva / Jota / Bowen / Foden
    King / Antonio

    Foster, Williams, Davis, Cancelo.

    1. waldo666
      • 13 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      1

  19. YEAH PITCH!
    • 5 Years
    2 years, 4 months ago

    Hit city

  20. waldo666
    • 13 Years
    2 years, 4 months ago

    Right, Mbeumo definitely going now after deciding I may hold this week.

    Thoughts here? 1 FT and 0.3 ITB Pretty certain I will just hold Ronaldo, gee I hope Livra's gash is OK.

    Sanchez
    TAA James Livramento White
    Salah Bowen Jota Gilmour
    Antonio King

    (Bachmann Mbeumo Ronaldo Cancelo)

    A) Mbeumo to Gray/McGinn/Odegaard (start over Gilmour)
    B) Something else

    1. rainy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      Odegaard tempting, though I’ve not looked too deeply into how he’s performed with and without ESR, Auba etc

      1. waldo666
        • 13 Years
        2 years, 4 months ago

        Better without ESR I've been told but Odegaard in some good form atm. I've not looked into too much myself though tbh.

        1. rainy
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 8 Years
          2 years, 4 months ago

          Indeed he is, and Arteta does seem to organise the squad around his players’ strengths, Xhaka notwithstanding

  21. Viper
    • 14 Years
    2 years, 4 months ago

    Still haven't taken a hit this season. That may have to change 😆

    1. Gabbiadini
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      I've taken 1, and yes may take a -4 but I do have 2FTs.

    2. FPLMACKEM
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      I took my first last gw. I may take a second this gw!

  22. FCSB
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 4 months ago

    I'd say Man Utd pulled rank and postponed the game, rather than the PL doing so.

    1. Crunchie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      That's obvious. They would have travelled tonight 🙂

  23. Dušan Citizen
    • 10 Years
    2 years, 4 months ago

    Surely it will get even worse for Christmas when many players, or staff at least, will throw a party or have a bigger gathering.

  24. SuperDan
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 4 months ago

    Foden or Sterling?

    1. Viper
      • 14 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      Foden

  25. Crunchie
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    2 years, 4 months ago

    Feeling positive.

    Ronaldo gets DGW in 21, and Son gets TGW in the same GW for Salah 🙂

    Ronaldo to Watkins for 2 GW's, still don't know what to do with Gundo though 🙂

    1. I Member
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      Is DGW21 even possible?

  26. Invincibles
    • 10 Years
    2 years, 4 months ago

    Leicester Spurs going ahead?

    Brighton?

  27. FCSB
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 4 months ago

    Ramsdale
    TAA James Alonso
    Salah Jota Bilva Gallagher Raphinha
    Antonio King

    Foster Livramento Davis Cancelo

    1FT, 5.0itb

    With Livramento being a doubt, and my only playing sub…

    1. Livramento >> Cash (maybe play over Raph)
    2. Davis >> Watkins (play over Raph?!)
    3. Save FT

    Cheers

    1. waldo666
      • 13 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      3

  28. Yes Ndidi
    • 4 Years
    2 years, 4 months ago

    Well, Herr Bachmann.
    Its down to you.

  29. Nightf0x
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 4 months ago

    Rams
    Taa rudi lamptey (dalot cancelo)
    Esr bowen bsilva salah jota
    Denis watkins (locadia)

    Which?

    A) locadia to antonio (planned for gw18)
    B) esr to foden/mount/galagher
    C) lamptey/dalot to target

  30. Adam Johnson
    • 4 Years
    2 years, 4 months ago

    Thinking of doing Mbeumo and Alonso to Diop and Gallagher for free.

    Leaves me with 1.2m in the bank.

    Thoughts?

    1. krawiecus
      • 2 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      No. hold Alonso, dont take out playing players now