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  1. theodosios
    • 8 Years
    1 year, 9 months ago

    It seems we've got the answer to the question before the start of the season: Why is White more expensive than some Arsenal defenders, except of course Saliba, who alongside VVD is by far the best defender in the league

    1. Fat Frank
      • 8 Years
      1 year, 9 months ago

      It’s odd though, he never looks that attacking, just seems to somehow always return when he does.
      Assists vs xA must be through the roof

  2. Philosopher's Stones
    • 5 Years
    1 year, 9 months ago

    For guys who capped Solanke, who's VC points are you getting? Morris for me.

    1. Lucky Z
      • 8 Years
      1 year, 9 months ago

      hahaha so funny and new joke

    2. noissimbus
      • 3 Years
      1 year, 9 months ago

      Just waiting for the ref to call the game off anytime now.

      1. rjcv177
        • 10 Years
        1 year, 9 months ago

        If that gives him another 90, like last time, Im all for it

  3. Total Foot 5
    • 12 Years
    1 year, 9 months ago

    Reguilon whats the reason for not starting x arsenal? Is he not nailed? Was thinking of tranferin in for.next gw

    1. Philosopher's Stones
      • 5 Years
      1 year, 9 months ago

      Afraid of facing the mighty Arsenal

    2. Admiral Benson
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      1 year, 9 months ago

      Minor hamstring

  4. WATERMELONS
    • 8 Years
    1 year, 9 months ago

    6 (-4) from 5 including C.

    Excellent start.

    1. Jack Frost
      • 15 Years
      1 year, 9 months ago

      Wait til you set your new "hit by a Bus" team... such fun.

      1. NorCal Villan
        • 3 Years
        1 year, 9 months ago

        Tony Stonem says, “too soon, mate, too soon”

    2. AzzaroMax99
      • 9 Years
      1 year, 9 months ago

      8(-8) from Saka,Gabriel,Saliba,SolankeC & Neto

  5. Slitherene
    • 7 Years
    1 year, 9 months ago

    Last transfer before WC 30

    Areola ¦ Fodder
    Porro Doughty Mengi ¦ Estu Botman
    Son Bowen Maddison Luiz ¦ Foden
    Watkins Solanke* ¦ Haaland

    Solanke -> Toney, for free

    Any player who might cover the (-4) hit?

  6. EffPeeEll
    • 5 Years
    1 year, 9 months ago

    Contempt creators' team reveals should be enthralling midweek

    1. EffPeeEll
      • 5 Years
      1 year, 9 months ago

      Here's a £5 superchat- who should I pick?

    2. Fat Frank
      • 8 Years
      1 year, 9 months ago

      Team picks itself next week

      1. EffPeeEll
        • 5 Years
        1 year, 9 months ago

        Few differentials.
        Bailey,Kulu,Ward-Prowse/Muniz, Duggie luiz

        Toney, Wissa, Watkins, Son, Maddison, Bowen my FH certainties at this stage, attacking wise.
        Could lose Wissa for Muniz.

    3. NorCal Villan
      • 3 Years
      1 year, 9 months ago

      Contempt Creators

      Calling it as band name

  7. denial
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    1 year, 9 months ago

    Not a good week to bench Garnacho.

    1. Magic Zico
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      1 year, 9 months ago

      Not a good week for anything atm 😛

      1. NorCal Villan
        • 3 Years
        1 year, 9 months ago

        Good week to start sniffing glue

    2. Better off with a pin and a…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      1 year, 9 months ago

      Indeed. I've also sold Estupinan for a hit so now expect at least a goal and clean sheet from him!

  8. mad_beer ✅
    • 10 Years
    1 year, 9 months ago

    Great week so far huh?

  9. Old Wulfrunian
    • 9 Years
    1 year, 9 months ago

    Haaland->Toney would be my ft.I will take 2 hits in order to have 11 players.I also need a good third defender for gw30 as i will have Gabriel away to ManCity,Estupinan away to Liverpool,Taylor away to Chelsea.

    Areola
    Doughty/Taylor/Porro/Estupinan*
    Bowen/Gross*/Chong/Son
    Watkins/Haaland*

    Raya/Solanke/Gabriel/Kluivert
    1ft 6.2itb

    A)Gross+Estupinan->Elanga/Maddison+Cash(-4)
    B)Gross+Kluivert->Elanga+Maddison (-4)
    C)Someting else

  10. Yes Ndidi
    • 6 Years
    1 year, 9 months ago

    Fully expecting my BGW29 team of 8 to outscore my DGW28 team of 15.

  11. Claudio555
    • 8 Years
    1 year, 9 months ago

    Best FH29 team?

    1. Royal5
      • 14 Years
      1 year, 9 months ago

      You can’t come up with a single player?

      1. Capocannonieri
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        1 year, 9 months ago

        Sonny, Wetlegs, Toney Boy, and Bowlegs

        The rest are basically bums

    2. Lieutenant Frank Columbo
      • 13 Years
      1 year, 9 months ago

      Salah, Saka and Haaland will at least guarantee you 0

    3. thegaffer82
      • 14 Years
      1 year, 9 months ago

      I’m doing a draft now-
      Flekken/Areola
      Porro - Reguillon - Doughty (Moreno - Robinson)
      Son - Bowen - Madd - Elanga - Bailey
      Toney - Morris - Watkins

      That was with about 5 mins of thought however, so it will have changed come deadline

    4. Rojo's Modern Life
      • 15 Years
      1 year, 9 months ago

      Do your homework and we might check it, but we're not doing it for you

    5. NorCal Villan
      • 3 Years
      1 year, 9 months ago

      At least provide the spoon

    6. ᶠᶦˡᵗʰʸLucre $$$
      • 10 Years
      1 year, 9 months ago

      Classic

  12. x.jim.x
    • 11 Years
    1 year, 9 months ago

    https://x.com/FPL__Raptor/status/1766472648953925799?s=20

    This is enough to make anybody embarrassed to play this game

    1. x.jim.x
      • 11 Years
      1 year, 9 months ago

      Bloke took a 12 point hit for Luton players, got rinsed for it, and can’t hack being made fun of.

      These are your heroes.

      1. EffPeeEll
        • 5 Years
        1 year, 9 months ago

        Looking for sympathy regarding a game that's free to play in an age when people in other countries are being bombed or starved to death.
        First world issues.
        #GrowAPairAndManUpYaDafy

      2. Fat Frank
        • 8 Years
        1 year, 9 months ago

        Even funnier is it’s only half time, if they all haul midweek then he’s laughing.
        Why can’t people just wait until the week is over to reflect 😆

        1. NorCal Villan
          • 3 Years
          1 year, 9 months ago

          Because waiting doesn’t get the desired attention

          1. ᶠᶦˡᵗʰʸLucre $$$
            • 10 Years
            1 year, 9 months ago

            This. Absolutely everyone who monetizes on FPL Twitter does everything for attention and interactions. That's what gets the cash. It's amazing some still haven't realised this yet.

      3. SUPERMAN
        • 13 Years
        1 year, 9 months ago

        Doughty and Morris. Also Bowen and Neto.

      4. NorCal Villan
        • 3 Years
        1 year, 9 months ago

        Cry more, Raptor, cry more

    2. Baines on Toast...
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      1 year, 9 months ago

      No idea who this bloke is but I have previously blocked him on Twitter then clearly forgotten about him

      1. thegaffer82
        • 14 Years
        1 year, 9 months ago

        Was Raptor harassing you?
        I don’t get it?
        But I don’t, and never will use Twitter

    3. noissimbus
      • 3 Years
      1 year, 9 months ago

      Agreed, don't let anyone dictate how you play a free-to-play game. Gather data and advice, then make your own decisions.

      1. SUPERMAN
        • 13 Years
        1 year, 9 months ago

        This is exactly FPL Raptors point

        1. Zalk
          • 14 Years
          1 year, 9 months ago

          Yep, don’t assume people will understand that though.

          1. x.jim.x
            • 11 Years
            1 year, 9 months ago

            Raptor is that you?

            1. SUPERMAN
              • 13 Years
              1 year, 9 months ago

              Bore off.

              1. x.jim.x
                • 11 Years
                1 year, 9 months ago

                Oh think we found him, don’t cry mate - it’s only a game

                1. SUPERMAN
                  • 13 Years
                  1 year, 9 months ago

                  🙂

                2. Steamboat Willy Boly
                  • 9 Years
                  1 year, 9 months ago

                  Your comments have put me off king crimson. Which is a shame! Because they're not bad

                  1. x.jim.x
                    • 11 Years
                    1 year, 9 months ago

                    Who?

                    1. Steamboat Willy Boly
                      • 9 Years
                      1 year, 9 months ago

                      God knows

                  2. NorCal Villan
                    • 3 Years
                    1 year, 9 months ago

                    They’re not bad? Understatement of the year

    4. Rojo's Modern Life
      • 15 Years
      1 year, 9 months ago

      People working themselves into a shoot. This "community" is just a load of memelords hoping for each other's downfall. If you expect more, you're going to have a bad time.

    5. Zalk
      • 14 Years
      1 year, 9 months ago

      I remember statements like these from second grade, and the type of child who’d make them.
      …and I’m not talking about Raptor’s statement.

    6. have you seen cyan
      • 6 Years
      1 year, 9 months ago

      you will never get backing for differential picks or differential ways of playing this game. I learnt, that when I go for a differential, its not even worth asking people here about it. I means its a differential pick after all, the masses shouldn't agree with you.

      if something works, its not stupid. Theres a thin line between genius and insanity

      1. have you seen cyan
        • 6 Years
        1 year, 9 months ago

        not strictly true actually, I will talk about differentials here, but never expect positive reinforcement.

  13. Capocannonieri
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    1 year, 9 months ago

    Got my self a big 5 today.

    5 points from my Saturday players.

    Captain -0
    Vice Captain -2

    1. Gazwaz80
      • 6 Years
      1 year, 9 months ago

      1 more than me 😀

    2. I Must Break You
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      1 year, 9 months ago

      Thanks for letting us know

  14. SomeoneKnows
    • 9 Years
    1 year, 9 months ago

    Best defenders to own for GW29 aside from Pedro Porro & Doughty?

    1. Yes Ndidi
      • 6 Years
      1 year, 9 months ago

      Stick a pin in any of them and enjoy the 2 points.

      1. Yes Ndidi
        • 6 Years
        1 year, 9 months ago

        Even Brentford, who you would expect to be secure against Burnley, will probably do a Bournemouth.

        1. Yes Ndidi
          • 6 Years
          1 year, 9 months ago

          Other than a double up on Luton & Spurs, maybe Coufal and Robinson at a push, but I can't see them keeping CS

    2. thegaffer82
      • 14 Years
      1 year, 9 months ago

      I like Regullion if he’s fit as he at least has some attacking potential. If we get any indication that Moreno or Digne will start, then I’d look at them too

  15. estheblessed
    • 10 Years
    1 year, 9 months ago

    FH29 ... How's it looking?

    Flekken
    Reguillon, Porro, Doughty
    Son, Maddison, Bowen, Bailey
    Morris, Toney, Watkins

    Areola, Andreas, Zuma, Cash

    1. EffPeeEll
      • 5 Years
      1 year, 9 months ago

      Looks ok.
      Morris though? Wissa or Muniz better options for me but it's a FH after all#Good luck

      1. estheblessed
        • 10 Years
        1 year, 9 months ago

        Yea both good shouts. Morris at home to Forest is a good fixture tho!

    2. thegaffer82
      • 14 Years
      1 year, 9 months ago

      Pretty much the same as the draft I posted above with just some different benchies. So yeah, I definitely like it!

      1. estheblessed
        • 10 Years
        1 year, 9 months ago

        Glad to hear it!

        1. thegaffer82
          • 14 Years
          1 year, 9 months ago

          I definitely prefer plenty of players over Andreas though. Elanga for one!

  16. TBL
    • 3 Years
    1 year, 9 months ago

    most nailed Brendford denfender for next GW?

    1. thegaffer82
      • 14 Years
      1 year, 9 months ago

      Wait for news on Reguillon injury. If fit, gotta be him

    2. EffPeeEll
      • 5 Years
      1 year, 9 months ago

      Roerslev been trusted for 90 against Chelsa/Arsenal last two.

  17. have you seen cyan
    • 6 Years
    1 year, 9 months ago

    gw29 is going to be like this as well right, i might just save fh and play 6 or 7

    1. Rojo's Modern Life
      • 15 Years
      1 year, 9 months ago

      Like what? Low points for popular picks? Who knows, but I'm happier with 10/11. 6/7 is rank suicide

      1. have you seen cyan
        • 6 Years
        1 year, 9 months ago

        a low scoring week

    2. thegaffer82
      • 14 Years
      1 year, 9 months ago

      If your 7 is Son, Maddison, Porro, Toney, Watkins, Luiz, Bowen then I guess it’s acceptable.
      But I doubt that’s what you got…
      Bet you got Charlie Taylor and Pau Torres 😉

      1. have you seen cyan
        • 6 Years
        1 year, 9 months ago

        its pretty bad at the moment, Toney, Watkins, Son, Barkley, Doughty, and Areola or Leno. So 6.

        1. thegaffer82
          • 14 Years
          1 year, 9 months ago

          I would FH.
          I’m not sure where the massive gains will come later in the season.
          I will be well set for DGW34 just using transfers.
          I will probably have 15 doublers in DGW37.
          Where is the big gain coming from guaranteed losing points this week and saving FH?

          1. have you seen cyan
            • 6 Years
            1 year, 9 months ago

            not sure when I will use it or wc, but I will keep im fairly certain. Thought I was set on FH for 29, but I changed my mind. I will take a -4, do Solanke>Morris, Trossard>Bowen then I will have 8, that will do.

  18. koldam
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    1 year, 9 months ago

    If I use the FH in GW 29. The free transfer that I dont use will be save for GW 30 ?

    1. Les Bleus
      • 14 Years
      1 year, 9 months ago

      No

    2. Nuka Girl
      • 9 Years
      1 year, 9 months ago

      No.

    3. thegaffer82
      • 14 Years
      1 year, 9 months ago

      It will be given to the rival directly below you in your most important mini-league

  19. GoonerByron
    • 14 Years
    1 year, 9 months ago

    Need a cheap forward to play in 29 but will mostly be on the bench with a 3-5-2 after that. Are Muniz’s minutes secure enough? Or should I pay extra for Morris?

    A - Muniz

    B - Morris

    1. ball c
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      1 year, 9 months ago

      Go A

  20. ZimZalabim
    • 9 Years
    1 year, 9 months ago

    could you set up a team and be active and get 0 points for the season ?

    the catch is that you cant just pick 15 injured players you have to have at least 5 fit active players in a match day squad

    and you have to make at least a min of 20 transfers and min 1 hit so you will need to try to score at least 4 points to get back to 0

    I think this could be a fun challenge

    1. thegaffer82
      • 14 Years
      1 year, 9 months ago

      I think it sounds like it’ll a) get boring real quick. b) Nobody will care if you achieve your goal

      1. ZimZalabim
        • 9 Years
        1 year, 9 months ago

        it could get boring but pouring endless hours trying to do well hasnt gone all that great the last few years.

        Who cares about your Fpl achievements at the moment ? Unless you are an FPL Virgin type fan boy or have a Fan boy of that ilk ? I think B is an irrelevant point but A is fair, I might set up a new team and try this next season but yeah getting boring is very likely

        1. thegaffer82
          • 14 Years
          1 year, 9 months ago

          Overall rank is kind of like like how much you earn or how attractive you are. It’s crass to talk about - but everybody cares.
          Everybody 🙂

          1. ZimZalabim
            • 9 Years
            1 year, 9 months ago

            To a small extent yes but only of a few of the elite players and that to because its spoken about on pods or in the comments here (like discussing fabios moves or something like that) and a few content creators that are putting themselves out there and want it known etc the general player pool in FPL could not care less.

            But seeing the 12 next to your name I guess when u first joined FFS it must have been like that because you were all very serious about the game and it must have felt like a proper Community and knowing about players that have a great history in terms of OR must have mattered more, but at this point I dont think it does as such to most players, even ones on here.

            1. thegaffer82
              • 14 Years
              1 year, 9 months ago

              I respectfully disagree. But I don’t come on here much these days, so there may be a new breed of player that I’m unaware of.
              But I imagine everyone, including yourself, would be wanting to draw attention to OR if you were in the top 100 or something incredible like that…
              Why? Cos rank matters to everyone.
              The same would apply if say you landed a job that paid you several million pounds a year. Cos money matters to everyone too.

              1. ZimZalabim
                • 9 Years
                1 year, 9 months ago

                I guess its a philosophical difference, and maybe I'm in the minority here. I never talk about my great weeks but do come on here to moan or get some company in my misery when Ive had an awful week.

                But in terms of your original point, when people come on here and talk about how well they are doing they might get a couple comments saying well done but mostly its ignored, and if they post it a few times they will get told that no one cares etc. Maybe thats a sad state of affairs and a reflection of the world at large but it is still true, no one really cares about other peoples great weeks or ranks or history as such any more.

                1. have you seen cyan
                  • 6 Years
                  1 year, 9 months ago

                  its kind of human nature. People don't come here to brag per se, they kind of want people to say well done lol. Other people wont understand fantasy and what we go through, so they vent or look for praise here.

                  when i have a good week, i don't normally post my score, i just ask how everyone else did.

                  1. NorCal Villan
                    • 3 Years
                    1 year, 9 months ago

                    Want positive affirmation? Get a dog 😎 Ain’t gonna find it online

                2. thegaffer82
                  • 14 Years
                  1 year, 9 months ago

                  Haha. Yeah, you are absolutely right that people don’t like braggers. But they still read and wish they had those ranks.
                  Just like I don’t like watching vids of some rich prat on a yacht, but I can’t help but feel a twang of envy and respect.
                  Anyway good luck if you do choose to focus on some obscure challenge to keep yourself amused 😉

          2. NorCal Villan
            • 3 Years
            1 year, 9 months ago

            Not true. Many only give a crap about how they do in MLs

    2. EffPeeEll
      • 5 Years
      1 year, 9 months ago

      or you could find a mole about your body and pick at it with a needle until it bleeds?

      1. ZimZalabim
        • 9 Years
        1 year, 9 months ago

        no moles sadly - any other suggestions ?

        Non violent if possible

      2. Yes Ndidi
        • 6 Years
        1 year, 9 months ago

        That gets boring after a while as well

    3. Zalk
      • 14 Years
      1 year, 9 months ago

      Sounds like anti-fpl. I think there’s a community with rules and all for it. Look it up, sounds kinda fun.

      1. ZimZalabim
        • 9 Years
        1 year, 9 months ago

        Cheers never heard of it but will check it out

    4. Pipermaru
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      1 year, 9 months ago

      You can set up some fun rules for yourself like pick only one player for each team, only low-owned players (below 5/10% or so), random captain, 3 defenders from one team all season and so on, that can spice things up. Not sure I would call your idea fun.

      1. ZimZalabim
        • 9 Years
        1 year, 9 months ago

        Yeah cheers I think on reflection as TheGaffer said it would get quite boring fast.

        Might look into doing something like what you have suggested next season.

        1. noissimbus
          • 3 Years
          1 year, 9 months ago

          Imagine trying to get the lowest points but instead getting more points than normal play.

  21. Kantelele
    • 3 Years
    1 year, 9 months ago

    What happen with Reguilon ?

    1. Bartowski
      • 15 Years
      1 year, 9 months ago

      Ah, the lesser know sequel to What's Eating Gilbert Grape.

      Hamstring...

      1. Yes Ndidi
        • 6 Years
        1 year, 9 months ago

        A fine film. Di Caprio outstanding.

        1. NorCal Villan
          • 3 Years
          1 year, 9 months ago

          Juliette Lewis more outstanding

    2. thegaffer82
      • 14 Years
      1 year, 9 months ago

      Minor hamstring problem.
      Hopefully the emphasis is on ‘minor’!

  22. Gazwaz80
    • 6 Years
    1 year, 9 months ago

    This is my G/W 29 F/H team
    Any good? Will no doubt tweak it a lot before the deadline.

    Flekken
    BUR (A)
    Reguilon Doughty Udogie
    BUR(A) NFO(H) FUL(A)
    Ward Prowse Douglas Luiz Bowen Son
    AVL(H). WHA(A). AVL(H) FUL(A
    Maddison
    FUL(A)
    Watkins Toney
    WHA(A). BUR(A)
    Sorry for the crappy layout…

    1. thegaffer82
      • 14 Years
      1 year, 9 months ago

      The fixtures are unneeded pal. This is a site for FPL geeks. We see the fixtures every time we blink anyway.

      Decent team. I’d probably lose Ward Prowse personally and punt on someone like Elanga.

      1. Gazwaz80
        • 6 Years
        1 year, 9 months ago

        Cheers Gaffer
        Yeah, was thinking Alanga and maybe Porro instead of Udogie?

        1. Hits from the Bong
          • 7 Years
          1 year, 9 months ago

          Prefer Kudus and Romero myself

          1. EffPeeEll
            • 5 Years
            1 year, 9 months ago

            Bang tidy differentials

        2. thegaffer82
          • 14 Years
          1 year, 9 months ago

          I did want to say Porro over Udogie, but you just end up with the same team as me 🙂

          1. Gazwaz80
            • 6 Years
            1 year, 9 months ago

            😀

  23. AF90
    • 13 Years
    1 year, 9 months ago

    Should I activate FH now to catch price rises like on a WC?

    1. Lieutenant Frank Columbo
      • 13 Years
      1 year, 9 months ago

      Money won’t be an issue

      1. thegaffer82
        • 14 Years
        1 year, 9 months ago

        Very much this!
        But if you are locked in to FH like me, then nothing to be lost by activating and starting to tinker

      2. Bada Bing
        • 8 Years
        1 year, 9 months ago

        I just did a preliminary draft and I had about 14 million left in the bank, so budget will definitely not be an issue free hitting next week.

    2. My heart goes Salalalalah
      • 8 Years
      1 year, 9 months ago

      No

  24. The Knights Template
    • 12 Years
    1 year, 9 months ago

    I see Mepham got a YC.

    1. Lieutenant Frank Columbo
      • 13 Years
      1 year, 9 months ago

      It’s certainly the big talking point of the game week so far.

  25. keefy59
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    1 year, 9 months ago

    Just checked my score
    9 points & a green arrow
    Crazy !

    1. Wirtzel Gummidge
      • 5 Years
      1 year, 9 months ago

      3 (-4)
      Hoping to get into the black tomorrow!

  26. thegaffer82
    • 14 Years
    1 year, 9 months ago

    How is the average 9 when it seems every man and his dog has 4pts (-8) from 5 players.
    I got a solid 6pts with no hits and got a red.
    Something fishy going on 🙂

    1. Better off with a pin and a…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      1 year, 9 months ago

      The overall average is 10. I guess lots of Man U players in teams - particularly dead teams.

    2. Yes Ndidi
      • 6 Years
      1 year, 9 months ago

      There'll be a lot of 1 week teams loaded up on early fixtures as well

  27. Wirtzel Gummidge
    • 5 Years
    1 year, 9 months ago

    RMT gw29

    Pedro Porro
    Maddison (vc), D.Luiz
    Watkins (c)

    1. Yes Ndidi
      • 6 Years
      1 year, 9 months ago

      Essentials covered. Everyone's a trap at the moment

    2. thegaffer82
      • 14 Years
      1 year, 9 months ago

      Looking like ‘Tristan Da Cunha’

    3. The-Red-1
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      1 year, 9 months ago

      About 30 more points than I'm getting this week

  28. ball c
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    1 year, 9 months ago

    How many players are enough if you’re not FH 29?

    I’m looking to save it.

    Currently only have:
    Areola
    Taylor
    Watkins - Morris

    With a -8 I will get in Son, Bowen & Toney.

    1. Yes Ndidi
      • 6 Years
      1 year, 9 months ago

      Quality over quantity, but I'm not sure the difference between FH & nonFH will be big enough to cover hits taken to get there.
      With maximum 5 for free, including Taylor, I'd FH.

  29. Samsonite
    • 3 Years
    1 year, 9 months ago

    Any word on Kerkez post match? My head said don’t take a hit for a BOU defender…