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9 October 2012 1269 comments
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For the first time in the current league campaign, Sir Alex Ferguson fielded both Wayne Rooney and Robin Van Persie in the same starting XI for United’s trip to Newcastle last Sunday. The pair had clicked in the previous game on Champions League duty, with Rooney teeing up the Dutchman for both his side’s goals in the 2-1 win over CFR Cluj and while Van Persie failed to fire against the Magpies, Rooney continued to revel in a more withdrawn role after providing another pair of assists in the 3-0 win.

Intriguingly, this was the first time Ferguson has rolled out his new diamond formation in the league. With Michael Carrick at the base, Shinji Kagawa and Tom Cleverley played right and left respectively, while Rooney tucked in behind Van Persie and Danny Welbeck. Post-match, the United boss talked up the success of his new formation:

“I wanted to try the diamond again after some success against Cluj, which is not an easy place to go to, and against Newcastle in the Capital One Cup…We played so well on Tuesday against a decent team. People look at the name Cluj and say they expect United to win, but they are a decent side. And because we played so well on Tuesday, I thought we should find out how far we can go with that diamond system.”

Looking at United’s respective shapes over the past couple of games, there’s a significant difference. From left to right and from front to back, in particular, there are far fewer spaces in between for opponents to thrive in. Ferguson’s default 4-4-2 formation was picked apart by Spurs in the previous match, with Gareth Bale’s second for the visitors indicative of just how stretched the Red Devils can be when opponents win possession and quickly counter-attack.

United v Spurs GW6
United v Newcastle GW7

In the Tottenham match (above left), Andre Villas-Boas’ side were savvy enough to exploit the space behind Rio Ferdinand (5) and Jonny Evans (6) but Ferguson’s tactics against Newcastle (above right) saw the central defensive pairing sit deeper and nullify the home side’s threat.

Prior to Sunday’s match, United’s problems at the back meant they had opened the scoring just once in their first six matches. Back in Gameweek 4, they cruised to a 4-0 home win over Wigan and, having grabbed the lead through Jonny Evans at St James’ Park, United registered their second clean sheet of the campaign in a comfortable 3-0 triumph. With Patrice Evra adding a second soon after, the visitors established a two-goal cushion within the first 15 minutes of the Toon tussle and quickly set about dominating the match.

Maybe it was a case of sitting back and protecting their lead but there seems no doubt the system afforded the recently-maligned backline greater protection. Analysing United’s overall involvement in each of their seven league matches so far, though, there was a definite downturn in their forward forays on Sunday.

PossessionTouchesTchs Opp Half% Tchs Opp HalfTchs Final 3rd% Tchs Final 3rd
GW170.1%93546950%27229%
GW260%84449158%31737%
GW354.7%84939546%20424%
GW452.2%66834050%23333%
GW547.8%69130744%15121%
GW674.2%95255258%29130%
GW755.7%77227836%11414%

While United bossed the proceedings with 55.7% possession, only 278 of their total touches came inside the Magpies’ half – their least of the season. In three of their previous six matches, Ferguson’s side had less possession, yet in all of those fixtures they were in more advanced positions when on the ball. In the Gameweek 3 win at Southampton, they had 54.7% possession, yet 395 touches were inside the Saints’ half, while the same applies to Gameweek 4 at home to Wigan (52.2% and 340 respectively) and Gameweek 5 at Liverpool (47.8% and 307).

Looking at the final third touches, United had just 114 on Sunday – again, their lowest of the campaign. This means that just 14% of their total touches were made inside this crucial area; although they doubled this percentage in four out of the previous six matches, Ferguson was more than happy as to how his side were able to control Sunday’s match:

“The diamond closes off the midfield. The only problem is when the ball goes out wide, how far your midfield gets separated. If you try to keep it tight in the centre of the field, then the opposition have to go wide. Okay, we took a gamble today because Newcastle are so big up front and they’re good crossers of the ball. But the football we played from the central midfield positions through Cleverley, Kagawa, Rooney and Carrick was terrific.”

Crosses ForCrosses AgainstTotal Succ Cross% Succ CrossChances Created
GW13418617.6%9
GW23715513.5%15
GW32415520.8%15
GW43018723.3%13
GW51826633.3%6
GW643749.3%12
GW71438321.4%10

Once again, the statistics back up Ferguson’s comments here. United had managed fewer crosses than their opponents in just one of the six previous matches, with Liverpool delivering 26 balls from out wide at Anfield (in comparison to the visitors’ 18) back in Gameweek 5. United produced an incredible 43 crosses against Spurs in their last home game, with Villas-Boas’ side making a mere seven, but last Sunday the situation was turned on its head.

Afforded plenty of width on the flanks, Alan Pardew’s men provided 38 crosses, with United managing a mere 14 – their lowest tally of the season. Their total of three successful crosses was also the least in any given Gameweek thus far but this equated to a 21.4% accuracy – their third highest rate of the campaign. Overall, it’s fair to say that United’s delivery from the flank has been disappointing; with only four of those 43 crosses against Spurs proving successful.

Ferguson could well be looking for a little more guile and intricacy to his team’s play. With ball-playing individuals like Kagawa and Van Persie brought on board, perhaps there’s less need for delivery into the box – United still
created 10 chances against Newcastle, with the stats above highlighting the fact that they don’t need to continually pump balls into the penalty area to provide goalscoring opportunities.

RVP Average Positions

Finally, it’s impossible to overlook the effect this new system had on Van Persie – in particular, his average position when on the ball. As the graphic highlights, the Dutchman was far deeper when on the ball in comparison to the previous six Gameweeks. While he mirrored his previous average for minutes per touch, Van Persie had just 15 touches in the final third, considerably down on his previous 24 for Gameweeks 1-6; on a more optimistic note, however, his penalty box touches (5.5 to four) weren’t too dissimilar.

Although Newcastle did well to shackle the Dutchman and reduce the former Arsenal man to a single attempt, Van Persie’s creativity took a turn for the better – he created a goalscoring opportunity every 29 minutes against Pardew’s men, well up on his average of 54.5 from his first six appearances.

Mins/TchTchs Final 3rdPass Rcvd Final 3rdPen Box TchsMins/AttemptMins/Chance Created
RVP GW1-622415.75.525.654.5
RVP GW72151245729

While the tactical spotlight has mainly centred on Chelsea since the arrival of Eden Hazard and Oscar, United’s shift of system over these last few games certainly hints at another evolution under Ferguson. Whether it’s to protect the shaky defence or find a solution to integrate the two summer signings alongside Rooney or perhaps a combination of both, the diamond affords a definite alternative to the usual 4-4-2 and gives United another dimension to their style of play as Ferguson attempts to wrestle the title back from Roberto Mancini’s City.

*The Technical Area is put together using the statistics and maps available in our members area. For access to such data and tools on every player, team and match of the 2012/13 season, and for exclusive members articles like this, click here for details.

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  1. Doctor X
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    I know from a logical point of view, I should wait for the international break to come to a close before I snap up Cazorla, but I'd like to get him before he rises tonight.

    Hazard > Cazorla sound a good move?

    Midfield reads: Bale - Pienaar- Michu - Hazard - Sterling.

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    1. JK - Cønt ⭐
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      I've just done it for the same reason.

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      1. jimski
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        Did you consider Bale?

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        1. JK - Cønt ⭐
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 2 months ago

          I did, then I looked at cazorla's fixtures compared to Bale's

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          1. jimski
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 2 months ago

            Man Utd away would have been off-putting too.

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            1. jimski
              • 14 Years
              13 years, 2 months ago

              Sorry, that was a bit glib. But everyone on here seems to rate Santi over Bale. Yet Bale's role in an attacking Spurs team pretty much guarantees him lots of chances.

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    2. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Yeah, that is the midfield i hope to end up with after the Cazorla transfer so yes, definitely.
      Your lucky that you have Bale you can switch him to Valencia for gw11.

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    3. Doctor X
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Lovely. Thank you JK and PuppetFace 😉

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    4. Adriano
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      I brought in Caz for the same reason but I coudn't bring myself to get rid of Hazard. Tough choice but Caz is a must with his upcoming fixtures.

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    5. Art Vandelay
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      I have done exactly that move and have the same midfield.

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  2. EAGLES (0 Chelsea players)
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    I have a front 3 of Tevez, Suarez, Ba....any suggestions??

    Tevez -> Aguero??

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    1. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      No that will drive you mad in two weeks:
      1 Tevez is not playing international football during this break
      2 Aguero is
      3 Therefore Tevez is no1 candidate to start gw8.

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      1. EAGLES (0 Chelsea players)
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        Ba to Berbz then?

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        1. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 2 months ago

          No, Ba is a player people would love to transfer in. His fixtures are great, Your forward line is not a problem. Wish I had that forward line!

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    2. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Tevez > Noel Hunt

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      1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        is that rhyming slang...or was that helen

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    3. Doctor X
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Don't do it. I'm regretting selling Tevez for Lambert last week tbh. He is nailed on to start at the Hawthorns. The only City striker not playing for his country.

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    4. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Save your transfer and get rid of Rangel next week for Shawcross.

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    5. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      If you really want to change a forward. You could transfer Suarez out gw9 for Crouch/Berbatov.

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    6. EAGLES (0 Chelsea players)
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Thanks everyone, the Aguero price rise in tandem to Tevez price drop is making me anxious, but i'll hold on

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  3. DRIZ ✅
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    13 years, 2 months ago

    will santi rise 3x till next GW?

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    1. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Hopefully.

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    2. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      I'd say a .2m is possible....but 3 is a stretch...Hazard scoring probably makes it less likely people would do a straight swap.

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  4. Le Limpar
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    So RVP plays deeper in the diamond - but the diamond was on show at Cluj as well as the Wonga Arena and he scored twice? Then I'm OK with the diamond.

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    1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      The game against Newcastle was essentially won by two magnificently executed set pieces inside 15mins...after that Newcastle were always the ones doing the pushing forward in my mind. IMO RVP wasn't required to score the goals so thus had less chances...if it was really urgent that they needed to score they would have got more chances.

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      1. Le Limpar
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        • 16 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        Good point. It's always far more about opposition and circumstance than sets of 1 and 2 match stats might lead you to believe.

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    2. duffnasty
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      i dont think welbeck will feature much in the future as fergje will certainly want nani, young and/or valencia on the wings, so rvp should be up top. i see their front line more like this:

      rvp rooney
      nani/young kagawa scholes/carrick valencia

      welbeck was able to penetrate lots but messed up the end pass every time. i still can't believe he didn't look up to find rvp in front of goal for that sitter instead just shooting wildly at god knows what.

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  5. FF Dirtbag
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    Ba or Jelavic... for a WC team... which one looks more promising?

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    1. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Ba Long term. Jelavic if you have no other Everton attack.

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    2. Bielsa's Blue Bucket
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Ba is the only Newcastle player I would want, get Everton cover elsewhere

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    3. Corrigan
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Ba Berb and one of Giroud (short term)Jelavic/Fletcher

      Maybe Kone or Crouch to be considered?

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      1. FF Dirtbag
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        Im going with Ba Berba RVP I think.

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        1. Corrigan
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 2 months ago

          V. good. RVPolicy is everyone's personal preference.

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  6. whatapalaver
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    Insightful article, especially about RVP. This formation may play into Stoke's hands next GW, though.

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  7. Lord Crumb
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    13 years, 2 months ago

    Guys, I've just read this from the Belgian FA website.....it basically says that Fellaini is out injured because of a knee injury & he may be off for at least 3 weeks.....you can see the website here:

    http://www.belgianfootball.be/nl/nieuws/marouane-fellaini-out-voor-servi%C3%AB-en-schotland

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    1. whatapalaver
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Cheers for the heads-up!

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    2. vamp persie
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      just a heads up that we don't speak whatever language that was ;). However that is good to know

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    3. Scroobius Mac
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Goal.com also picked up on this

      https://twitter.com/GoalUK/status/255773415212998656

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    4. Corrigan
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Blimey, sometimes the break is an FPL manager's best friend. Sorry, Fell but the decision to sell you just became a lot easier. I can watch the Loftus Road game with my feet up and with Baines and Pie to rack some serious pointage up.

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  8. 4vets
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    It's funny... all this RVP talk. I have him and will keep him until/if he becomes a liability. Right now my cheap mids (Pienaar & Morrison) are performing and I am hoping they will continue to do so all season. If not, I would hope another cheap option would become apparent (Walters??).

    Right now, I could only transfer him out for a similar player (Kun) and that seems a bit rubbish. He's f-ing class. I'm keeping.

    🙂

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    1. Call Me Old Fashioned
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      The last sentence sums up views in a nutshell

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    2. Colonel Shoe 肝池
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      agree but i cant own him cos he plays for utd 😉

      but he scares me.....im just waiting for him to go on a massive scoring run and ill be left behind

      if anyone gets rid now, theyll have trouble gettin him back

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      1. 4vets
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        Heh... I have 2 Man U in my team as I'm now a "grown up" and can get over these things 😉

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        1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 2 months ago

          😀 i regressed terribly once i passed 30 😉

          toys flyin out of prams n all

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          1. 4vets
            • 15 Years
            13 years, 2 months ago

            I have an image in my mind. It is not pleasant 😉

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            1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
              • 14 Years
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              yet probably accurate

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  9. Title20
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    Jaask, Fed
    Rangel, Baines, Clark, Demel, Hughes
    Michu, Hazard, Noble, Yaya, Pienaar
    RVP, Tevez, Berba

    0.3m in the bank

    advice?

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  10. bdwhite91
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    Play Fellaini away against QPR or Sterling at home to RDG? I'm playing Pienaar for sure.

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    1. Scroobius Mac
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Looks like you have had that choice taken out of your hands.

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  11. Bielsa's Blue Bucket
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    Players form and fixtures are analysed to death on here week in week out, by myself included. No matter what we say about Van Persie, if he remains fit he will be in the top 3 forwards at the end of the season, probably in top spot.

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    1. Corrigan
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      The game is more about timing each player's particular period of form and finding the best value rather than simply the "top scorers".

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      1. Bielsa's Blue Bucket
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        Good point but selling him now will make it damn near impossible to get him back without taking hits. He had 5 goals 2 assists and 7 bonus points from seven games.

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        1. Corrigan
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 2 months ago

          There's no doubting RVP's class. Everything else is debatable. There's obviously no right or wrong answer, but personally I've shifted him. Atm I intend to have Ba and Berb long term and then a third spot to get exposure to a hot streak of fixtures and/or form. I.e Giroud for the next two before switching to Fletcher/Jelly/Crouch/Kone. Get this right and I could outscore RVP's output irrelevant of price.

          If RVP starts bringing in returns of last season then he's worth that potential 8-12 pont hit to get him back in, I reckon. Until you cross that bridge, splash the cash!

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  12. Menly
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    Evening bois

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    1. 4vets
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Guten tag, Menly.

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      1. Menly
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        How are ya mate? 🙂

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        1. 4vets
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 2 months ago

          Slow but sure!

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          1. Menly
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 2 months ago

            How's it been round here? Have I missed good banter?

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            1. Le Limpar
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 16 Years
              13 years, 2 months ago

              WHERE ARE THE TURRETS?!

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  13.  ⓖⓐⓩⓩⓐ™
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    Thinking of doing
    Hazard > Cazorla
    Roddalega > Berbatov

    For a -4. Hit, what do yas reckon

    It'll leave my team looking like this

    Foster. ( Jaaskerlainen)
    Jenkinson. Rafael. Baines. (Demel) (Hangeland)
    Cazorla. Bale. Silva. Pienaar (Sterling)
    Aguero. Jelavic Berbatov

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    1. Baggers
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Both good moves IMO

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    2. .
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Do it

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  14. An Púca
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    as WC teams go, what does this look like:

    Begovic Schwarzer
    Clark Cuellar Rafael Demel Nelsen
    Bale Hazard Pienaar SantiCazorla Puncheon
    Van Persie Giroud Berbatov

    too soon for Giroud...too weak in defence?

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    1. Baggers
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Would rather have Ba, Jelavic or even Podolski over Giroud
      If you want to upgrade your defence then Hazard could be Mata, don't think there is a massive diff between them at the mo

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      1. An Púca
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        yeah,,,,Hazard to Mata frees up some cash
        But Mata strikes me as more of an assister...Hazard as more of the goalscorer...not sure why

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        1. Baggers
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 2 months ago

          I agree he is but at the moment he is the one RDM seems to sacrifice 60mins in, I'm personally getting rid of Hazard anyway in favour of Bale but if I was on WC would be tempted to go with

          Def don't bring in Giroud, miles better options out there as mentioned above

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      2. An Púca
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        with regards to Giroud....he looks like being the main fulcrum of the Arsenal attack...early days, but he could be their main man yet

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    2. JK - Cønt ⭐
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Prefer Bego and Foster as a combo. I'd want Wilson if you can afford to bench him this week. Will Giroud still get starts I don't know, I'd be tempted by Ba instead. Also lacks a big hitter in defence. I'd downgrade Hazard to someone like Morrison and upgrade Clark or Nelsen to Baines/Ivanovic/Gibbs

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      1. An Púca
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        Rafael is the big hitter in defence
        0.1 sort of getting hughes/wilson instead of demel

        Is Mata worth it over Hazard?

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        1. JK - Cønt ⭐
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 2 months ago

          yes, indeed, but Chelsea's fixtures are awful.

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    3. Corrigan
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Different, but v. good.

      Shirley, you can't put a WC team together without Baines in it?

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      1. FF Dirtbag
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        This^^ Where is Baines? He is basically a 6th midfielder.

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      2. An Púca
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        not a fan of the whole Baines hype...never bought into it. He just won't get clean sheets and is defo not going to get a goal/assist in every single game

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  15. Menly
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    Just got Twitter. Who should I follow?

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    1. bdwhite91
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      All of the clubs so you can tell us starting lineups 😀

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      1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        yeh we need a decent back up for demi...if he gets crocked...

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    2. AP
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Me.

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    3. 4vets
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      I got it and then have done nothing with it. I feel it's for the best.

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    4. IAmTheWalrus
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      ashley cole

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    5. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Fellaini's injury 🙁

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    6. Scroobius Mac
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      https://twitter.com/Demil1990/fpl-shizzle

      Most of us mob on there.

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      1. Menly
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        Ta mate

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    7. IAmTheWalrus
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Im @shanem152

      Click on the people im following, i have a lot of the transfer gossip guys as well as the celebs worth following. Steve martin is great!

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    8. IAmTheWalrus
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      oh and riley steele.

      E GAD man, follow riley steele.

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    9. Le Limpar
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      @GusTheFox

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  16. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    So strange I was just thinking in my head...ok I'd prefer to get rid of HBA rather than Fellaini...*scrolls down* Fellaini injured

    DOH!

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  17. IAmTheWalrus
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    Brilliant article. Very tempted to reknew membership on this basis alone i must say!

    I do think the figures are a little skewed , although touched on, the fact that united went three nil up, they really sat back and a lot of the charts so RVP sitting back , rio sitting back, evans sitting back. The reality could be that the figures are being skewed, maybe, maybe not.

    Still find the new united formation very exciting.

    Could it work just as well with kagawa playing the front of the diamon and rooney beside rvp i wonder?

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    1. JK - Cønt ⭐
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      I think it might work better

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      1. IAmTheWalrus
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        yea i just dont like to see kags out wide, not that hes not capbable, but he can play those killer balls!

        Who on the right then , anderson?

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        1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
          • 13 Years
          13 years, 2 months ago

          Valencia

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    2. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      +1 excellent article Paul

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      1. Paul
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        thanks.. 😉

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    3. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      I think the more cagey approach for this game could be down to it being such a must-win on the back of a shock loss to Spurs. Going 2 up was a dream come true so they were never going to want to leave them exposed against a dangerous Newcastle attack. They played the game perfectly really...but will it always be this defensive-minded? Perhaps for the sake of results...

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  18. samaael
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    hey thinking of doing

    hazard to silva (done a statistical comparison and silva measures up and with knowledge of fixtures, seems a good move but I dont know)

    this will leave me with tevez and silva. Man City overkill?

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    1. DRIZ ✅
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      tevez becoming a rotation risk. hazard > bale

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    2. Drip Doctor
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
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      I am not sure on that, Chelsea look very good, City don't.

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    3. 4vets
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      I'm doing it.

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  19. Paul
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    Oh what I would do without u guys and this site!!... 🙂

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    1. Malcolm Tucker for England …
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Have far much more 'me' time! 🙂

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      1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        Be better at FPL?

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        1. Malcolm Tucker for England …
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 2 months ago

          My one year old is better than me

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          1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
            • 13 Years
            13 years, 2 months ago

            My mum is better than me at FPL.

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      2. Paul
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        Well too much me time also sucks... 😛
        well especially when ur online...this site has been a refreshing chng of pace for the past 3 yrs...due to all the banters that go around here....
        Miss RBJ and some old posters though tbh...

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        1. Malcolm Tucker for England …
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 2 months ago

          He was funny. Miss AtB though. Closest to RBJ now is Alsybach

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          1. Paul
            • 15 Years
            13 years, 2 months ago

            oh u'll find ATB on twitter...

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  20. Will - Fantasy Football Hub
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    A. silva and ba
    B aguero and nolan (+.5)

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    1. Drip Doctor
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      • 15 Years
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      A

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      1. 4vets
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        +1, assuming one has Berbs already.

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    2. FF Dirtbag
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      A for sure

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    3. WithEase
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      A

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    4. Will - Fantasy Football Hub
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      ty all

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  21. FF Dirtbag
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    13 years, 2 months ago

    Hows this looking for a WC? Any opinions would be great

    Begovic Jaask
    Baines Rafael Wilson Clyne McCartney
    Bale Cazorla Pienaar Morrison Sterling
    Ba RVP Berbatov

    With 1 million left over... Anywhere I can improve and who?

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    1. WithEase
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      I like it. Maybe replace McCartney tho as WHU's fixtures rapidly turn to shit.

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      1. FF Dirtbag
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        Yea I might do that what other defences look gd enough to invest in though?

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        1. WithEase
          • 13 Years
          13 years, 2 months ago

          Fulham have some nice fixtures coming up and Hughes is listed at 4.5

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          1. FF Dirtbag
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 2 months ago

            Cheers man will have a look into it!

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    2. 4vets
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      Bale > Silva and improve the def with the spare cash.

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      1. FF Dirtbag
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        13 years, 2 months ago

        Yea planning on keeping a bit of money to do Bale -> Silva, not sure whether I want to do it now though. Will defo improve the def a little for sure.

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    3. Dr Ennet
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Looks really good indeed mate... If you want to spend your last million you could perhaps go for Clyne -> Wisdom... Other than that a solid team...

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      1. FF Dirtbag
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        Cheers guys! I am gonna defo look into some other defensive people. Wisdom? Liverpool defender? I dont know too much about him, is he playing regularly?

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    4. Will - Fantasy Football Hub
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      look v. good a lack of city might hurt though with their fixtures

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      1. FF Dirtbag
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        I am on the edge with deciding to put Silva in now instead of Bale. But I am keeping some cash if I want to do it at another time.

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    5. Efan Ekoku Pops
      • 13 Years
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      This looks nearly identical to my team (currently), so I'm liking it. I have the same problem with spare cash, but can't seem to squeeze anyone else in. I'm half-tempted to go with Begovic and have a 4.0M keeper to free up funds for a 5.0M defender like Saylor.

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      1. FF Dirtbag
        • 14 Years
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        Begovic has got quite good fixtures for a while now... and would probably keep him in more of them time... might have a cheeky look at that but think I will keep both! I prefer having two good rotating GK's

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  22. royals forever
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    • 16 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    Out of these 4 who is the most nailed on to start and play at least 60 minutes in GW8

    Aguero
    Tevez
    RVP
    Rooney

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    1. FF Dirtbag
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      All of them.

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    2. Baggers
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      I'd say RVP and Rooney will

      Aguero/Tevez is a lottery under Mancini (as long as they are in Champs Lge anyway)

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    3. DRIZ ✅
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      all 4

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  23. Dr Ennet
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    Ba, Berbs or Jelavic for third striker spot? The other two are Suarez and Lambert..

    Might indeed seem like a pretty weak front three but there is a plan there somewhere.. 🙂

    Cheers!

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    1. FF Dirtbag
      • 14 Years
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      Berbatov for the long term.

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      1. Dr Ennet
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        Cheers mate...

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      2. 4vets
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        +2

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  24. WithEase
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    How does this strike everyone as a wildcard team?

    Begovic, Foster
    Skrtel, Mertesacker, Riise, Shawcross, Nelsen
    Cazorla, Pienaar, Nolan, Bale, Sterling
    Aguero, Jelavic, Suarez

    Bit worried that Mertesacker is not nailed on as of yet, but the planned transfers are:

    GW9 - Suarez -> Berbs
    GW10 - Nolan -> BArfa
    GW11 - Skrtel -> Rafael

    Any help appreciated.

    Cheers!

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    1. Paul
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      different a bit....no baines????

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  25. Benzemabob
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    who would you sell ?

    Torres
    Tevez
    Hazard

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    1. Malcolm Tucker for England …
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Hazard for Carzola

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    2. FF Dirtbag
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      tevez, rotation risk now and has been slack on the attacking points... slowly getting pointless to have him.

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    3. 4vets
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      Haz

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  26. Lateriser 12
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    How much is Santi at? He going to rise tonight? I ask because i use a phone (blackerry).

    Also no closer to making my decision of Hazard to Santi or Tevez to Giroud. 🙁

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    1. Malcolm Tucker for England …
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      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Hazard to the bonus point machine

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    2. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      9.3 I believe

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      1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        Definitely rising tonight

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    3. Doctor X
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Just done Hazard to Santi. Looking to get Mata in for cheaper than Hazard for Chelsea cover in a couple of GWs.

      Keep Tevez. 100% nailed on to start at the Hawthorns IMO.

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      1. Lateriser 12
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        He going to rise tonight?

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        1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
          • 13 Years
          13 years, 2 months ago

          YES

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  27. Doctor X
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    13 years, 2 months ago

    Re: Gunter.

    What's the story with him. Dropped. Out of Favour. Injured. Shite. Need to get rid.

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    1. Malcolm Tucker for England …
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      • 14 Years
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      All of the above

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    2. Corrigan
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      You've been unlucky as Reading threatened to be a tight unit at the Madjeski whereas some picked clearly leaky Soton defenders as fillers and have got some right jammy returns.

      Overtook by a Fonte haul this week.

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      1. Doctor X
        • 14 Years
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        I was actually just wondering that. Reading were quite solid at home last season. And now Federici's been dropped too.

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  28. Open Controls
    1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Makes it easier to say goodbye I guess...not particularly happy either way though having to make an early transfer.

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    2. Gargamel
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      • 16 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Half a page late, sorry

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      1. 4vets
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        No need to apologise. I almost missed it.

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    3. Drip Doctor
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      • 15 Years
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      Hmmm that is an annoying amount of time, so really he will only miss QPR and possibly Liverpool. Could still be worth holding on considering he has 4 good fixtures in a row after.

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      1. Gargamel
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
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        It really isn't ideal. What if he then comes back and gets his fifth yellow card? Would be mightily annoying

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        1. Drip Doctor
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
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          Yeah very annoying. Had high hopes for him aswell.

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          1. Gargamel
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 16 Years
            13 years, 2 months ago

            Same, was desperate to get him after waiting too long. Ugh.

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      2. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        Not worth holding if the 3 weeks thing is true...he will drop like a stone.

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    4. Corrigan
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Garg, please could you ratify my Lambert to Berbatov move?

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      1. Gargamel
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        Who are your other strikers? I happen to like Lambert quite a bit.

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        1. Corrigan
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 2 months ago

          Ba and Fletch

          Also pondering a hit for Fletch to Giroud.

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          1. Gargamel
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 16 Years
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            I really wouldn't rush Lambert out of that strikeforce. I'd be more inclined to sell Fletcher, but I might be alone in not finding him a great option.

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  29. Will - Fantasy Football Hub
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    On a WC.. Do I keep RVP?

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    1. Drip Doctor
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
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      I would get Aguero.

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      1. Drip Doctor
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
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        Aguero *Suarez Berbatov would be my WC strikeforce.

        *One week punt and then a swap to Ba.

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    2. 4vets
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      I would, but we're all different.

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    3. benjen snow
      • 13 Years
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      Depends if you need funds. I'd probably drop if i WC.

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  30. benjen snow
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    Foster - Fed
    Rangel - Rafael - Hangeland - Cuellar - Demel
    Bale - Hazard - Pienaar - Sterling - Dyer
    Graham - RVP - Tevez

    1FT, 1.5M in the bank.

    Do I need to WC this team or just get rid of Swansea coverage over the next few weeks? If use single transfer I'm thinking Graham - Lambert. Obviously WC gives me a lot of scope for changes...

    Cheers.

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