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Moneyball – Jason Puncheon

This series has generally been engaged in looking for the “next prospect”, the unheralded and the unfashionable. This week, we’re going to go in a slightly different direction and re-examine someone who was first mentioned in these pages back in Gameweek 6, after which he was promptly benched to seemingly slip back into obscurity. As last weekend’s performance at QPR demonstrated, however, the underlying potential of Jason Puncheon was never in doubt: pitch-time looks to be the key factor in his prosperity as a Fantasy asset.

Chris Glover Creator of the plfantasy blog, providing a stats focused approach to fantasy football. Exiled to Canada but still prefer my sports played on grass rather than ice. Follow them on Twitter

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  1. thetinkerman
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    I think I would like to see one or two more consistent games from Puncheon before I invest.

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    1. thetinkerman
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      At £4.5m, maybe invest is the wrong word! Commit.

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    2. In Tommy We Trust
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      this^^^

      Rodriguez won't be left out in the cold for long

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    3. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
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      He's been consistent when playing. The problem is will he start every game.

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      1. thetinkerman
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        Indeed.

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  2. Evs
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    Hmmm....

    Now toying with Felliani ➡ Valencia?

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    1. The Devil Wears Prada
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      might be worth a punt this week. but i would keep fellaini somehow

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    2. Drogba "Unstoppable, U…
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      don't really see the point of getting him
      sure he represents a coverage of manutd against managerless utd
      but his returns have not really been fruitful lately....

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      1. Drogba "Unstoppable, U…
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        oops! ignore that one

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        1. Evs
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          Thanks 🙂

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    3. Drogba "Unstoppable, U…
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      don't really see the point of getting him
      sure he represents a coverage of manutd against managerless qpr
      but his returns have not really been fruitful lately....

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      1. Evs
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        Echo. . .

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    4. thetinkerman
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      I'm not sold on Valencia's merits this season I'm afraid. The raw goal threat of Fellaini is surely too much to ignore and one of Rooney/RVP is the best route into Utd attack IMO. I think people may regret selling Fellaini as well. If you have a decent bench player, I'd hold tight.

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      1. Evs
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        Sterling is my bench player.

        This weeks mf...

        Sterling, bale, Michu, Nolan (Felliani)

        WHM have awful run of games ahead... Wish I could do straight Nolan to Valencia upgrade but a little shy on the £s 😥

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        1. thetinkerman
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          I'd save the transfer myself if there are no other pressing issues. I still think Nolan is an seasoned enough PL player to be able to offer goal threat regardless of the opponent.

          If you're still not happy next week maybe downgrade elsewhere and upgrade Nolan.

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  3. JohnnyRev7
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    11 years, 4 months ago

    Have to switch to 4 at the back this GW with Fellaini and Guthrie red-flagged.

    Gorkks (wig) or Garrido (eve)?

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    1. Evs
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      Pokey Gorkey

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    2. ZaKNaFeiN
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      Gorkss

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    3. JohnnyRev7
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      Thanks boys, that was my initial gut feeling.

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  4. In Tommy We Trust
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    11 years, 4 months ago

    West Brom/Southampton rotation is also nice for the same time frame and involves 0 transfers for me 😀

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  5. Leaf
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    11 years, 4 months ago

    Begovic

    Rafael , baines v , huth

    Sess , Carzorla , Maloney , Walcott

    Ba , RVP c , Tevez

    Bench sterling,Clyne,Gunter

    Sterling plays for Theo I I guess

    Had to take 4 pt hit this week ,but looks ok right ?

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    1. ZaKNaFeiN
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      Seems alright

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  6. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
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    Will monitor him v newcastle, if he does well might consider bringing him in for maloney

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    1. Leaf
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      Very hopeful of Maloney this week

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    2. Evs
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      Good call.

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  7. The Devil Wears Prada
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    need more opinions on this:

    i'm looking to get in arsenal or city coverage. i'm looking at doing either maloney -> walcott or berba ->aguero. i'm leaning towards the walcott trade since arsenal's fixtures are alot easier, and berba is still good value and in good form. what do you think?

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    1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
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      walcott is injured

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      1. The Devil Wears Prada
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        11 years, 4 months ago

        i forgot the mention this transfer is for next week. hopefully we know more about his injury by then. though he's expected to be back for the midweek game in gw 14.

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    2. In Tommy We Trust
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      Anyway to get Silva as City coverage?

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      1. The Devil Wears Prada
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        i could have if i opted for gorkss instead of cuellar. but looking at their fixtures of cuellar, gorkss, silva and walcott, i decided that cuellar and walcott would be the best move. but i just found out i could get aguero if i lost berba, although i'm not too keen on this

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  8. Kamikaze
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    11 years, 4 months ago

    2 FT, 0.1 in the bank.

    Begovic Tremmel
    Baines Cuellar McCartney Gorkss Williamson
    Bale Mata Fellaini Michu Maloney
    RVP Tevez Ba

    Anything to do?

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  9. Jubilanus / BSC Small Boys …
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    Valencia or Bale?

    Bale seems sensible option, but can see UTD destroying QPR tomorrow.

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    1. fredwestham
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      11 years, 4 months ago

      Bale

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    2. Leaf
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      I'd say Bale , fixtures get so good in a few weeks he will be essential

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    3. thetinkerman
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      Bale for me. I don't think they're comparable. You could argue that Valencia has the better assist threat but he has nowhere near the same goal threat as Bale.

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      1. Jubilanus / BSC Small Boys …
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        yeah you are right.

        Just tempting to try and be the guy who got Valencia the week he went loco!

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        1. thetinkerman
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          Do you want to be the guy who sold Bale the week when he went loco though? 😉

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  10. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
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    Chris Glover, you're blog/site is deadly. I really enjoy reading it when the dust settles on a gameweek, Keep up the fantastic work!

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    1. Piggs Boson
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      11 years, 4 months ago

      +1. I'm not sure how's he's managed it, but now i'm starting to think Rooney is a viable RVP alternative 😐 😀

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      1. thetinkerman
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        Perhaps because he is!

        RVP has dominated up to now and Rooney has become unfashionable. The reason you're doubting yourself is because no-one has been talking about him probably.

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        1. Twisted Saltergater
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          11 years, 4 months ago

          I have! Lots! Did Taarabt + RVP --> Valencia + Rooney this week. I'll need a cushion to hide behind at the weekend...

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          1. In Tommy We Trust
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            11 years, 4 months ago

            I recommend some alcohol in the household 😉

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            1. Twisted Saltergater
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              11 years, 4 months ago

              When's the game on? Saturday? I'll be travelling up to the Villa - Arsenal game in a car full of Van Persie owners. It's either going to go very well, or .. well, not worth considering really.

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              1. In Tommy We Trust
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                Heaven or hell in a nutshell there.

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          2. thetinkerman
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            Fair enough. I should have said hardly anyone!

            Good luck 😀

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            1. Twisted Saltergater
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              Hehe, cheers... I'll need it!

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              1. thetinkerman
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                Love the grav too by the way

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      2. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
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        I think he is too. Just doesn't come with that added 'when in doubt captain the dutchess of scoring when he wants' factor

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        1. Jönny
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          11 years, 4 months ago

          After last weekend I'm starting to think that could be a good thing - didn't even consider Tevez, which in retrospect was pretty stupid. Does having RVP make you overlook other, better captaincy options?

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          1. Twisted Saltergater
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            It does. Definitely. It's the fear factor of him exploding.

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          2. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
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            Definitely, especially because of his price tag. It's unfortunate for Tevez owners like yourself that he hadn't done anything in 2 games...which made your faith in captaining him non-existent perhaps. Look on the brightside, at least you got the 19 points!

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            1. Jönny
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              I can't see the brightside I'm afraid, my main rival and my H2H opponent both captained Suarez. I was in a deep state of despair all weekend.

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          3. thetinkerman
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            I don't know. I captain Berba last weekend and (VC) RVP. Turns out they were the only two players in my attack to draw blanks! D'oh.

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          4. GREENDREAMS11
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            11 years, 4 months ago

            Been without RVP since gameweek 7 and although its not really bitten me just yet the wife has to do 1 Extra washload on a Saturday now. :p

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    2. Lateriser 12
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      Link

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      1. thetinkerman
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        I kind of don't want to share it and keep it a secret...

        http://premierleaguefantasy.blogspot.de/

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        1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
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          One thing's for sure, we've now revealed where we both live! 😀

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          1. Lateriser 12
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            Thanks

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          2. thetinkerman
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            Damn, the secret's out.

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    3. Home Run Baker
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      I love it too. Dousing fire / fanning flames article is an excellent read on how to view what happened in the previous GW. Must-read imo.

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  11. Jönny
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    11 years, 4 months ago

    Fantastic... just pulled the trigger on Guthrie->Puncheon which I was quite bored by as a transfer, now I've popped onto the site to find this article. Hopefully it can perk my interest!

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    1. thetinkerman
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      Seems like a very sensible one, especially if you have Michu/Suarez/Fellaini bans to cover.

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      1. Jönny
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        Just Michu hanging around for me....definitely sensible, but this article offers hope that it could be exciting too!

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        1. Mithrandir, the Grey Pilgri…
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          I have all 3.

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    2. Mithrandir, the Grey Pilgri…
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      My transfer too this week. I was so pleased to get rid of Guthrie, and plan on playing Puncheon

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    3. New Ghost
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      Puncheon is the only viable way out from Guthrie atm. Did the transfer this week as well. Punch could come in handy when Michu gets his 5th yellow.

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      1. Mithrandir, the Grey Pilgri…
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        Agree, had no exit from Guthrie until Puncheon. Good fixtures for saints too, gives me renewed interest after I stupidly sold lambert.

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        1. New Ghost
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          Agreed; the next 4 fixtures for Soton look promising.

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  12. ManTree(v2!) or just JAY!
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    Hey folks

    I have 2 FT and £1.5m in the bank.

    Foster, Begovic

    Baines, Davies, Demel, Cuellar, Gorkks

    Nolan, Michu, Bale, Fellaini, Sterling

    Ba, RVP, Aguero

    Pick one of these:

    1. Foster and Davies out for Ruddy and Jose Enrique.

    2. Foster to Ruddy to free up funds and save FT.

    3. Foster to Mignolet and save FT

    Thoughts please?!

    Thank you!!

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    1. Ricky - it doesn\'t ta…
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      4 - davies out for gibbs or someone else [save 1ft]

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    2. Guinney
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      11 years, 4 months ago

      first option seems the best to me

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  13. Plagued by indecision
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    11 years, 4 months ago

    Right, I'm this close to pulling the trigger on McAuley > Cuellar and Berbatov > Giroud (2 FT) unless anyone can talk me out of it...

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    1. ZaKNaFeiN
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      11 years, 4 months ago

      keep berba, he's class

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      1. Plagued by indecision
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        11 years, 4 months ago

        i know, that's why i'm holding off... I'm definitely doing McAuley > Cuellar, and then it's up for grabs whether Nolan gets the chop for Puncheon or Berba for Giroud...

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    2. thetinkerman
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      There's no way I'd do Berba > Giroud personally. Don't forget it's only Giroud's first season and he might not be able to keep up this consistency.

      McCauley > Cuellar seems sensible

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      1. Plagued by indecision
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        Thanks for your advice. Would you ditch Nolan at this point, and if so, for whom?

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        1. thetinkerman
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          Not sure. I have a feeling that Nolan/West Ham won't be too fussed about playing 'big' teams and will still offer some value. If I had him I'd still be tempted to sell for the right player. Not sure who that would be sorry!

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  14. heartsattack
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    11 years, 4 months ago

    Start Simpson or Gorkks?

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    1. ZaKNaFeiN
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      gorksss

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    2. Home Run Baker
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      Gorkss

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  15. reply fail
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    11 years, 4 months ago

    If one day Guthrie will be able to play again, does he has a chance to appear in the starting 11? Or will he be bench fodder for Reading like he is for me? I don't need him until gw19.

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    1. Lateriser 12
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      Wrong. You have no clue when you will need him.

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      1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
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        Harsh...

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      2. reply fail
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        11 years, 4 months ago

        Yes I do, I'm very happy with 2 defenders that can come from my bench until gw19. But the question was, will he get a starting place?

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        1. Viper
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          11 years, 4 months ago

          Plenty of suspension, injuries will take place between now & gwk 19! You never know or when you will need them..

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          1. Viper
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            never know who*

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          2. reply fail
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            I know, but there will also be 6 FT's. I just want him as a good bench option from GW19+. For now he can do what he wants on my bench,

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        2. New Ghost
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          McDermott doesn't really seem to fancy him. Shame really; Guthrie is Reading's only adequate passer in the middle of the park.

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          1. reply fail
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            11 years, 4 months ago

            Thanks Snake, that is my main worry.

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  16. Viper
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    11 years, 4 months ago

    Team for the weekend:

    Jaask
    Baines Cameron Cuellar
    Bale Cazorla (vc) Sterling Michu
    RVP(c) Berba Tevez

    Fed; Ridgewell, Demel, Fellaini

    I have 2 free tranfers, nothing obvious to do so i'm gonna go for Demel -> Davies/Clyne and save the other transfer, any suggestions?

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    1. Twisted Saltergater
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      11 years, 4 months ago

      Great team, Viper. Get rid of Cazorla 😉

      I like the Demel to Davies given that Southampton miss a game in GW18, i think.

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      1. Viper
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        11 years, 4 months ago

        Cazorla is staying put, we've been through this 🙂

        Yeah, i'm thinking Davies purely because Swansea are a much better team than Southampton..

        Cazorla -> Walcott in a couple weeks could be on the cards. It will be a move that involves Tevez -> Suarez most likely..

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    2. Evil Greg
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      11 years, 4 months ago

      billy jones or wisdom probably better options in the budget range, as is michael turner (possibly injured for this week)

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      1. Viper
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        11 years, 4 months ago

        Unfortunately I have 0.0 in the bank so 4.0 -> 4.0 is all thats available to me..

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    3. Evil Greg
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      or if you can stretch to bardsley you could do a lot worse!

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  17. Gazza2000
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    For the non RVP owners, who will be your captain this week ?

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    1. thetinkerman
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      11 years, 4 months ago

      What are your choices Gazza?

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      1. Gazza2000
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        Bale, Ba, Suarez, team is linked

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        1. New Ghost
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          11 years, 4 months ago

          Take a chance with Bale.

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          1. Gazza2000
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            Last 2 times I did that he gave me 4 points in return, lost a bit of faith I guess...

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        2. thetinkerman
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          I like Bale Ba Suarez in that order, but there's probably not much in it.

          The reason I chose Bale over Ba is due to Newcastle's injury 'crisis'

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          1. Gazza2000
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            yeah, my first thought was Ba as well, but the injuries made me hesitate..
            What about Baines ? I know the "Baines rule" but it could work out well this time...

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    2. Viper
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      Cazorla or Bale are decent options imo..

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    3. Drogba "Unstoppable, U…
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      suarez here

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    4. berbatron
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      Suarez

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  18. Evil Greg
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    11 years, 4 months ago

    I'm fancying an accumlator tomorrow. any gambling geniuses got any tips? 5-10 teams i think.

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    1. r0nh
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      11 years, 4 months ago

      My betting tip:

      Never bet on more than 3 variables

      Instead, bet bigger on 1 variable

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      1. Evil Greg
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        11 years, 4 months ago

        cool.

        might go for 3 draws to boost the odds, stoke fulham / wigan reading / southampton newcastle sound good?

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    2. The Mandalorian
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      11 years, 4 months ago

      betting is only gambling when you dont know what your doing.

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    3. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
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      11 years, 4 months ago

      City to beat chelsea on sunday.

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    4. Gimli son of Gloin
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      11 years, 4 months ago

      United, Arsenal, Wigan, Norwich and Southampton could get decent odds. Fancy Norwich and Southampton for a few upsets this weekend

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  19. Dante
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    11 years, 4 months ago

    How's this looking for this week? Not entirely happy, but saving my FT for next week...

    Begovic (Foster)

    Baines / Baird / Simpson (Shawcross / Demel)

    Mata / Cazorla / Sterling / Lallana (Kightly)

    RVP (c) / Berbatov / Ba (v)

    Thanks!

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    1. Evil Greg
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      it's fine mate

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    2. ★FC Borecelona★
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      11 years, 4 months ago

      Solid

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      1. ★FC Borecelona★
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        11 years, 4 months ago

        Woah! Play ShawX over Simpson!

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        1. Dante
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          11 years, 4 months ago

          Shawcross vs. Fulham over Simpson vs. Southampton? And I've got a bit of Stoke cover in Bego in the unlikely event of Fulham not scoring at some point.

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  20. Kaboom
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    11 years, 4 months ago

    My team is

    begovic (mcarthy)
    baines rafael cameron (clyne demel)
    bale sterling yaya valencia (kacanaclic)
    RVP saurez (pog)

    1 FT 2.5m in the bank
    any suggestions appreciated

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    1. Evil Greg
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      11 years, 4 months ago

      yaya to puncheon, then pog to any striker you fancy on any given week!

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      1. Kaboom
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        11 years, 4 months ago

        what about
        baines -> enrique
        pog-> padolski/giroud

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  21. In Tommy We Trust
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    11 years, 4 months ago

    So what people actually expecting out of RVP this weekend?

    2 goals and 3 baps and am happy

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    1. Evil Greg
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      11 years, 4 months ago

      one assist

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    2. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
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      Nothing, always best to be pessimistic.

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    3. Mull
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      That's about the minimum I'm expecting.

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    4. In Tommy We Trust
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      Jesus, terrible English

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    5. New Ghost
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      4 goals. 🙂

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    6. thetinkerman
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      11 years, 4 months ago

      I'm expecting double figures to be honest, although I have a feeling this will be the week Rooney goes nuts and turns everyone's heads.

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      1. maglia rosa
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        11 years, 4 months ago

        hahaha ive asked on 3 seperate occasions today if its worth bringing in ole granny shagger for a two week blast partnering persie in my side and i got a resounding no 😛 playing deep, persie is the clearly the guy to have but we all know he is one of those explosive players a score of 15 wouldnt really suprese anyone would it

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  22. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    one key thing to note for the next 3 gws is make sure you have a good bench.

    If you are making transfers like berbatov to fletcher for example and you have ben arfa and walcott you may want to think twice. Get rid of the injuries and make sure you bring in someone who will play even if they are to be benched.

    I expect alot of rotation with 3 games in space of 7 days

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    1. In Tommy We Trust
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      11 years, 4 months ago

      OMG!! you feeling ok Bemba? This is really sound advice.

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    2. r0nh
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      This is crap advice, most teams play 3 games every week.

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      1. thetinkerman
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        11 years, 4 months ago

        -1

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  23. @Bryan
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    11 years, 4 months ago

    Just saw a stat, but it was not sourced so take it with a pinch of salt.

    Apparently, it takes on average 57 crosses to score a goal.

    I'm only trudging through this now, but anyone interested in Everton/Baines here is two links.

    http://www.shotsontarget.co.uk/2012/11/team-analysis-chelsea-west-brom-and.html

    http://theexecutionersbong.wordpress.com/

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    1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Cheers Brian, Baines still has the second most assists of any defender. And Riise has one more, one of which was a flukey penalty assist. I personally don't think his average of an assist every 4 games is bad. You can discuss why he hasn't had more assists but that's football! They can't all go in.

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      1. @Bryan
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        Np. More interesting readings then anything else. The 2nd link has some stuff on why Everton create so much, but score a bit less then you'd expect for the number and how a formation change to Fellaini going into midfield might change things. Could be relevant to Baines potential going forward.

        Or just a long (interesting) read on real life tactics 😛

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    2. @Bryan
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      The 2nd link has posts that pretty much deconstruct the Everton attack and shooting accuracy.

      Very interesting.

      For the lazy, it is enough to re-ignite some worries about Baines. Basically Everton shoot from every angle in the box, over a quarter of the goals from areas wide of the goal, but in the box. That is..odd.

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      1. thetinkerman
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        • 12 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        That was mentioned in the scoutcast actually (if I remember correctly). It could be that they're going for a lot of shots on goal rather than trying to walk it in.

        I've not checked the stats or anything though, purely speculation, but it wouldn't surprise me.

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          1. thetinkerman
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            11 years, 4 months ago

            Nice one.

            Not sure where this leaves us really. Are we expecting them to continue getting a lot of shots but converting them at a much lower rate than other teams? As long as they've got goals in them, I'm happy owning Everton players.

            I wonder how important this is:

            "Over a quarter of them (marked with an x) have come from areas wide of the goal (unsurprisingly, the left side). This is very unusual amongst the sides who score a lot of goals."

            Assuming it is true, does it necessarily mean that it's harder to score goals from crosses from the left side?

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            1. @Bryan
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              11 years, 4 months ago

              Id expect Jelavic to start converting at his normal rate soon after this slump. Might help a tad, not by great amounts though.

              From the other players, Fellaini, Osman and Mirallas, sounds like we can expect more of the same.

              If they start creating less chances against the better sides, ill be pretty worried. For now, it is so-so.

              Id assume so, if the crosses aren't hitting a more central area of the box or players are just shooting on sight from every angle (Suarez syndrome last year). It would help explain the Baines question, alongside the poorer conversion rate of the aforementioned players.

              Might explain why they aren't regressing to the mean (in a positive manner).

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    3. thetinkerman
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      • 12 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      You legend! Would love to see the source.

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      1. @Bryan
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        Article from 2nd blog again. No source/referance for the stat though.

        http://theexecutionersbong.wordpress.com/2012/11/08/scout-report-moyes-tactical-blueprint-for-sunderland/

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  24. @ImpressiveTackl
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    11 years, 4 months ago

    play Taraabt(mun) or Davies(LIV)?

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    1. New Ghost
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Taarabt.

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  25. New Ghost
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    3 GWs in one week. I love this.

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    1. r0nh
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      There isnt.

      There is 2 GW's in one week.

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    2. King Nil Miss ✩
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      11 years, 4 months ago

      No, in 2!

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  26. Flying Assassins
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    Made a mistake with early transfer but was get annoyed with Newcastle's form as well as HBA who I transferred for Walcott. Will my team do OK? Never played with 3 MID's before.

    Begovic (Federici)
    Clyne - Cuellar - Baines - Cameron
    Michu - Nolan - Mata (Walcott & Fellaini)
    RVP - Tevez - Berbatov

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  27. HammerChaw
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    11 years, 4 months ago

    how could i improve this team/squad

    Begovic (jask)
    Wisdom Cuellar Boyce (mc cauley, Cameron)
    Mata Hazard Michu Maloney (Fellaini)
    berba Suarez(vc) van persie (C)
    imput welcome ..tempted by hazard to silva

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    1. Flying Assassins
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Agree. I wouldn't want both Mata & Hazard and considering no city cover it would seem a logical move.

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  28.  ⓖⓐⓩⓩⓐ™
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    11 years, 4 months ago

    Who do yas reckon I should play Pienaar ( home to Norwich) or. Sterling (away to Swansea)

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    1. In Tommy We Trust
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Pienaar

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  29. andres
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    Just shipped out mcAnuff and got puncheon, feels good! This allows me to get suarez for next week, which probably mesns he will get a yellow and miss the sot game, but still... i am quite happy:)

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  30. Piggs Boson
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    11 years, 4 months ago

    Would you captain Boyce(RDG) or RVP(QPR) this week? Tough call...

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