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17 August 2013 4613 comments
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There are five three o’clock kick-offs to follow Liverpool’s early Premeir League victory, with United’s trip to Swansea to follow at tea-time.

The team news from the Emirates finds Theo Walcott in the Arsenal lineup, although there is no start for Santi Cazorla who is rested to the bench following his recent international exploits. Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain earns a start in midfield, along with Aaron Ramsey and Tomas Rosicky: Mikel Arteta is absent through injury. Up front, Olivier Giroud is given the opportunity to lead the attack with no place for Lukas Podolski. As for Villa, they have budget pick, Nathan Baker alongside Ron Vlaar in defence, as expected.

Chris Hughton is without Seb Bassong and playmaker Robert Snodgrass so hands a start to Elliot Bennett and Nathan Redmond on the flank, with Steven Whittaker in defence. They go with a 4-5-1 with Wes Hoolahan supporting new signing, Ricky van Wolfswinkel up top. Everton’s lineup is as expected – Ross Berkley is given the opportunity to fill in for Darron Gibson in midfield, while Nikica Jelavic’s pre-season form is enough to earn him the nod up front.

There are few surprises as the Hawthorns. The home side lineup with both Nicolas Anelka and Shane Long up front in what looks like a regular 4-4-2. Opponents Southampton have Luke Shaw fit to start at left-back, although Nathaniel Clyne is only able to make the bench: Calum Chambers starts at right-back. James Ward-Prowse is preferred ahead of Guly, Steven Davis and Gaston Ramirez in midfield.

Paolo Di Canio’s teamsheet includes a host of new signings as Ondrej Celustka, Valentin Roberge, Cabral, Emanuele Giaccherin and Jozy Altidore all earn debuts. Kieron Westwood gets the nod in goal over Vito Mannone. The Fulham lineup includes a debut for Derek Boateng and a surprise start or Adel Taarabt: Bryan Ruiz only makes the bench.

The West Ham back four lines up with both Guy Demel and James Collins earning starts as Razvan Rat and James Tomkins are kept on the bench. The midfield sees Mo Diame earn a start along with Joe Cole, while Modibo Maiga leads the line in the absence of the injured Andy Carroll. There are few surprises in the Cardiff lineup, with Matt Connolly preferred to John Brayford at right-back and Ben Turner alongside new signing, Steven Caulker.

Our Dugout Discussion chatroom remains open to take you through the afternoon matches into this evenings clash at the Liberty.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. Prime
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    Will be interesting to monitor Welbeck's situation. We know Moyes likes to play with a big and strong support striker, like Fellaini last year.

    Welbeck has always shown potential, does Moyes hold the key to unlock it?

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    1. Fifa las vegas
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Maybe......maaybe..........

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    2. the Penman
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Well, he's not a flipping winger, so already things are looking up for him...

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  2. 808Shadow
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    how did everyone fair? I still got 3 chelsea dgw players as well as two more forwards to play. Im at 25 pts. Not horrible but not great either..

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    1. aehii
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      26 points. 4 players to play, 3 dgw. Already considering a panic wild card. All the research and I couldn't foresee two penalties to go against Arsenal, a sending off, and didn't realise they had a mid week champions league game.

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    2. svgcr
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      39 pts. 3 chealsea players, haz captain, soldado and dzeko to go

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  3. Wirtzle Gummidge
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    • 13 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    Finished on 40 points. Pooped a squirrel when Lambert scored the pen.

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  4. Chrissy Waddle - 2025/26
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    Redknapp is exhausting to listen too. Slowdown and breathe ffs.

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    1. Fifa las vegas
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      😀

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    1. Fifa las vegas
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      😯 He still has Hazrad (c), Lukaku and Soldado to play! Well done mate.

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  5. Champ
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    Almost played "safe" and swapped Shaw out for Cuellar. Phew.

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  6. Red5
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    Why are some people losing bps after the game finishes?

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  7. Adriano
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    Is the BAPS information available yet?

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    1. Fifa las vegas
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Welbeck 3, RVP 2, Hernandez + Rooney 1

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  8. El Berbossa - \\\"El b…
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    Ramirez should start next week im hoping.

    My negatives

    Baker injured when he was going to get a chance to get nailed
    Brayford not first team
    R Morrison - Just fail, end of.
    Mirallas did Fk all.
    Ramirez played 20mins

    Positives:

    Started with RVP + Benteke
    3 Chelsea left to play.
    Boruc/Davis combo working well 🙂

    Overall

    Average start

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  9. SPorting
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    I still feel comfortable going without RvP / Benteke / A.N. Other (delete as applicable) because it's only GW1 and I have confidence in the choices I made and I don't have to add stats to this post to justify my picks and convince myself.

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      ... and I feel comfortable with him. 😉

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      1. Goaldigger
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        So you should 🙂

        I think today doesn't prove much though. I have 42 without him, so obviously I was able to do something decent with the spare money. The were plenty others who delivered today.

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        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          12 years, 3 months ago

          Strategically, however, with the solid rise in price that will occur this week ...

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      2. SPorting
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        Swings and roundabouts MMW.

        Haven't ruled out bringing him in later but not needed at the moment.

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    2. JUSTBLAZE
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Me too. First names on my team and haven't had them out of my team since early last season.

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    3. 808Shadow
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      I feel comfortable without him as well.

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  10. Valar(Keith)
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    Hey malcolm tucker or anyone.. how was kim today? why was he taken off early?

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    1. Goaldigger
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      I am wondering this too

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    2. Malcolm Tucker for England …
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Not seen yet but appears was a bit out of his depth first half and then came off in a double tactical change. Fwiw i am keeping as think he'll take to the premier well after a game or two

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      1. Malcolm Tucker for England …
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        Kim and Bellamy came off for gestede and maynard

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  11. Cruicky
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    Chamberlain out till November. Cruciate Ligament injury. Sad.

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    1. Oldman Unathletic
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      For reals? Sad news for the boy.

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  12. Oldman Unathletic
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    Very surprised by how bad Swansea were at the back. Expected a closer contest than what was delivered. RVP was electric.

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  13. Absinthe 42
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    Help!

    As I'm fast asleep when the games are played, I avoid the scores until I can d/l Match of the Day later in the day.

    That is past the price change cut off though. My transfer plan means I can't afford to miss a 0.1 change.

    So can someone be kind enough to tell me if there is a danger of any price rises/falls today to template players. DON'T INCLUDE NAMES, just a yes or no please.

    Thanks.

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    1. Mílanista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Biggest movers so far are around +/- 10% of the way there, nothing to worry about yet.

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    2. SW6
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Hard to say this early, probably not though

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    3. Gazza2000
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      no

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    4. JUSTBLAZE
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      R. Morrison. Get on that bandwagon. Banged in a hattrick in 20 mins game time.

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    5. roddick
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      I would say there is, yes.

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    6. Smarty Pants
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      I agree with Milanista, nothing to worry about YET.
      But the games have just finished though. You should probably ask the same question in a few hours...

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      1. Absinthe 42
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        I will do, you'll be sick of me.

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    7. Absinthe 42
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Thanks guys.

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  14. Goaldigger
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    Sorry for stupid question that has probably asked a million times today (wish there was a search function here).

    This Barkley lad. Does he have a snowballs chance of keeping his place? Who is his competition, is it Gibson?

    Would make getting RVP in a couple of weeks so much easier.

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    1. the Penman
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      He did only play because Gibson was out but Martinez was impressed, so...hmmm.

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      1. Goaldigger
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        Thanks, I guess wait and see then. No use kneejerking only to find he doesnt play in a week or two.

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    2. the axolotl
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      gibson likely to win place back when fit i'd say. don't know how good barkley was today though, apart from his goal

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  15. Chrissy Waddle - 2025/26
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    RVP has that great Dutch chilled demeanour. Class bloke.

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  16. MADE IN CHARLTON
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    Who was playing right back for Norwich pre season, as how did 4.0million Whittaker slip under the radar?

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    1. Sánchez
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      He wont last once bassong returns

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      1. pieces
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        I loved the left footed shank that went staight onto Wolfswinkie's head 😀 😆

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    2. Hibbo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      R.Martin he can play cb too

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  17. Sánchez
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    So. Are Anelka and JRod wagons still in full flow?

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    1. Hibbo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Lol

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  18. JJO
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    An news on Sagna?I almost passed out when I saw that fall

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    1. JJO
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Any

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    2. Goaldigger
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Yeah me too, was in a state of shock for a few minutes.

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  19. Teeberry
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    Only 27 points...I was a fool for not captaining RVP...hope my three Chelsea boys do well in both games this week...

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    1. Mílanista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Captaining RVP away to Swansea when Chelsea have HUL, AVL would be foolish without the benefit of hindsight.

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    2. Oldman Unathletic
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Not really. On paper Swansea away was a real challenge. No one in their right mind expected Utd to thump them 4-1.

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  20. Messiah Hazard
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    No use getting RVP just now, unless Soldado, Dzeko, etc prove themselves not effective over more than one GWs

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    1. Reed_Rothchild
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Does he speak Afrikaans?

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      1. pieces
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        Eh!!!???

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    2. 808Shadow
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      me too

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  21. Reed_Rothchild
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    Knee jerk post coming.

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  22. the Penman
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    Well, my all-Scotland team ("Independence FC") scored a total of 15 points today...10 of which were Whittaker. Quality. Captain Snodgrass excelled himself there.

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    1. getfunky
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      haha

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  23. Mr. Mystic
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    Why did I have Clyne instead of Shaw?!

    Was this stupid?

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    1. getfunky
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      no, both were doubts

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  24. thetinkerman
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    • 14 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    Has that Shaw assist just been added? Typical that Turner and Kosc got -2 between them and he was on my bench!

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    1. Mull
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      That's FPL for you.

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      1. thetinkerman
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        I know. Would rather he got 12 points than 2 though, maybe a bandwagon will start ahead of Coleman!

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    2. thetinkerman
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Shaw 3 bonus as well, pushing Lambert down to 1. Typical!

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      1. Ted Maul
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        How come? Lambert should get 2 or 3.

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    3. Mílanista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      I played Turner over Shaw. This is despite the fact that I put Norwich to draw and Southampton to win in my accumulator as that's what I thought would happen. How stupid of me 🙂

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      1. thetinkerman
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        • 14 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        Turner over Shaw was the logical pick, although there wasn't much in it.

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        1. Mílanista
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 3 months ago

          I don't know, was thinking before today that West Brom would struggle this season and Southampton would do well. Everton was never a fixture I looked at with confidence for a Norwich CS. Just blinded by the H next to Turner.

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          1. Mílanista
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            12 years, 3 months ago

            Shouldn't complain too much, 26 after baps from Migs, Toure and Collins is excellent but gutted its not 38 with Shaw.

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            1. thetinkerman
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              • 14 Years
              12 years, 3 months ago

              This.

              Best I could have realistically expected from Migs, Turner and Kosc was 20 points. I got 13. Not bad really, the equivalent of 2 cleanies out of 3.

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          2. thetinkerman
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            • 14 Years
            12 years, 3 months ago

            I know what you mean, and it wasn't an automatic choice. I reckon statistically Turner was the right pick too. Never mind! I guess that's the issue with rotation.

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  25. The Chosen One...
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    WHAT!!! what happened to Sturridge's baps

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    1. Oldman Unathletic
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Feck Sturridge the ball greedy bar steward.

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    2. Fifa las vegas
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      People passed him out..

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    3. Red5
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      No idea. Amazing to me that Sturridge can apparently come out of that game with 0 baps while Johnson picks up 2. Chesny is currently on for 1 baps despite being comedically bad, conceding a penalty and shipping 3 goals. Best system.

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  26. Cilly Bonnolly
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    So yeah, I had a Van Persie first goal and 3-1 to United double on today. Two quid on it at 65/1. Fair to say I hate Danny Wellbeck at the moment.

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  27. Bøwstring The Carp
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    26 with Cole, Hazard (c), Silva, Soldado and Lukaku to go. About average?

    Coleman first sub. 😡

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    1. Cruicky
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Yep, I'm in a very similar position. Meh.

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    2. 808Shadow
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      I think thats average, im 25 with alot more points to come

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    3. Derailed Bandwagon
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      21 with Hazard, Oscar, Soldado, Lukaku (c), and Dzeko left

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    4. Cyril Figgis
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      I have the same players still to come, but I'm sat comfy on 27! 😛

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    5. FredrikH
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Average. Same.

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    6. Red5
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      29 pre-baps. 23 from the Liverpool game (Migs, Toure, Studge) and then a whopping 6 points combined from Giroud, Kosc, Turner & Walcott.

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  28. teej
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    39 points with Haz, Oscar & Lukaku to go. Not too shabby 🙂

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    1. super zlatan
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Very nice 😉

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    2. Mílanista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Congrats, all those RMTs paid off!

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      1. teej
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        Lol 😉

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    3. Fabreghastly
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      31 despite loading up on Arsenal, with Haz (c), Dzeko and Soldado to come.

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  29. super zlatan
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    Everyone wildcarding then?

    Really need soldado to rip it up tomrw.

    Non RVP owner here 🙁

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