[sbu_large_image] Moving Target
16 August 2012 2282 comments
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Manchester United shook the Premier League and Fantasy football world to its core last night with the confirmation they have agreed terms with Arsenal for the transfer of Robin Van Persie. With just two days to go before Saturday’s deadline, Fantasy managers have been handed a major dilemma as they weigh up the impact of the Dutchman’s departure from the Emirates and the possible knock-on effects for both sides in the season ahead:

Speaking on the transfer earlier today, Sire Alex Ferguson couldn’t hide his delight before going on to reveal that he expects to have the new boy available for United’s Gameweek 1 match at Everton:

It’s great to have a player of Van Persie’s qualities coming into the squad. He is on his way up from London, he will have a medical later this afternoon and we hope that goes according to plan. His agent is in talks with David [Gill]. Hopefully everything will be tied up by the end of the day. I am sure he will be available for Monday’s game

The Statistics

Van Persie’s career began at the age of 14 in the youth set-up of Dutch club SBV Excelsior, though he left for Feyenoord just a year later. Promoted to the first-team squad due to injuries to others, he made his debut in the 2001/02 campaign, providing two assists in 10 league matches, but Van Persie’s game time at the club was somewhat limited due to regular spats with then-manager Bert Van Marwijk. His final two campaigns produced 15 goals and seven assists from 51 appearances and, having refused to extend his contract, he was snapped up by Arsenal in May 2004.

Over his subsequent eight seasons at the Emirates, Van Persie has been plagued with injuries; indeed, only twice in his first six campaigns for Arsene Wenger’s side did he manage to notch more than 10 goals. Gradually shifted from a left winger to a more central role, he notched 48 times and provided 31 assists in 131 games between 2004-05 and 2009-10 but each of his first four campaigns were blighted by injury – toe, knee and metatarsal problems kept him sidelined for a significant amount of time.

Named Arsenal’s Player of the Year for his displays in 2008-09, the following season saw Van Persie installed as the lone frontman in a new 4-3-3 system after Emmanuel Adebayor’s departure to Man City but, having made a strong start to the campaign, he was sidelined for five months with an ankle problem soon after signing a new long-term contract. The Dutchman’s start to the 2010-11 campaign was quickly curtailed by another ankle injury in the opening month but, after returning to goalscoring ways in January 2011, Van Persie proceeded to demonstrate the sensational form that made him the most formidable Fantasy player around in the past season-and-a-half, with 48 goals and 21 assists from his last 63 matches for the London outfit. The 29-year-old has also featured 68 times for his national side and found the net on 28 occasions.

The Prospects

There are two schools of thought on the United situation and at the moment the move raises more questions than answers. On the one hand, a partnership with Wayne Rooney looks mouth-watering and could be set to boost both players’ Fantasy appeal – with last season’s top two Fantasy Premier League (FPL) players leading the line, Sir Alex Ferguson’s side could be on course to top their 89 goals from the previous campaign as they attempt to wrestle the title back from City. Having added the creativity of Shinji Kagawa from Borussia Dortmund, Ferguson is clearly intent on banishing the ghosts of last term, which saw his side suffer the ignominy of being pipped to the title on goal difference in the dying seconds of the season.

Alternatively, the acquisition of Van Persie could, potentially, reduce the appeal of Van Persie and Rooney. When on the pitch last season, the Dutchman had a hand in 54.2% of all Arsenal’s goals in the league; with set-pieces and spot-kicks in the bag, he was certainly the more stable of the two players and produced the goods away from home far more consistently than Rooney – this, however, was playing as a lone frontman for the Gunners in a system that has served him so well over the past couple of seasons. The sceptics will point to his form for Holland, for example, to illustrate the fact that there are no guarantees that “Arsenal’s Van Persie” will offer the same sort of output as the one plying his trade at Old Trafford.

There are several factors for Fantasy managers to consider which will, in all likelihood, only be clarified at the season unfolds. Ferguson’s tactics will be a key factor – will he move away from his 4-4-2 to incorporate his two marquee signings or will Van Persie and Kagawa simply find a place within United’s default formation? Quite where the Dutchman will find his place in the set-piece and spot-kick pecking order is another matter of concern – will he usurp Rooney for penalties or free-kicks or will the pair share duties? Kagawa is also more than capable of executing stunning set-piece delivery and is likely to be in the mix here, too. Bearing in mind that the EA Sports Player Performance Index is considerably weighted towards goalscorers, the captaincy issue is also a major point of concern – a converted penalty could, in any given Gameweek, potentially see a six point swing between Van Persie and Rooney, depending on who has the Fantasy armband.

Rotation is also a major issue. Van Persie played all 38 of Arsenal’s games last term, with only one of his appearances coming from the bench – the same scenario seems unlikely at Old Trafford, with Danny Welbeck and Javier Hernandez also pushing for game time. Ferguson will be desperate to avoid a repeat of last season’s European failure, where his side failed to get past the Champions League Group Stages and could be set for a “horses for courses” approach as his side fight for silverware on several fronts. Considering that Ferguson has just handed Welbeck a new contract and spoken of his expectations for a much improved season from Hernandez, it’s obvious the pair offer a greater threat to Van Persie’s starts than Marouane Chamakh ever did at Arsenal. As Ferguson went on to say this afternoon:

If you go back to 1999 season and we had Dwight and Andy and Teddy and Ole Gunnar – the four best strikers in Europe – and we are getting back towards that now. We have got Chicharito, we have got Wayne, we have got Robin, we have got Danny Welbeck and we have got Kagawa. That is a fantastic combination of players. Hopefully I pick the right combinations.

The Everton game aside, United’s opening schedule (FUL, sot, WIG) is surely set to attract significant investment. While Ferguson has hinted Van Persie should feature at Goodison, much may depend on the forward’s fitness – following his Euro 2012 involvement with Holland, he has featured only as a brief second-half sub against Cologne last Sunday for Arsenal and could well be eased into action, with plenty of alternatives on offer for United. Rooney could be the safer option to start off with, though as the Dutchman showed last term, there is no one quite as reliable in the domestic game.

From an Arsenal perspective, the move is set to boost the appeal of their trio of new signings prior to the Gunners’ Gameweek 1 home clash against Sunderland. Arsene Wenger admitted yesterday that there will be no influx of attacking players in light of Van Persie’s departure at the Emirates, having already acquired Santi Cazorla, Lukas Podolski and Olivier Giroud in anticipation of the move.

Giroud looks set to lead the line in the 4-2-3-1 formation; a system he flourished in at Montpellier last term, with 21 goals and nine assists firing his side to the Ligue 1 title – priced at 9.0 in FPL and 8.7 in the Sky Sports game, his FPL price in particular now looks far more appealing with game time looking guaranteed. Podolski comes in at 8.5 in both games and, while he is likely to feature wide left, was handed spot-kicks in the club’s last game, though it’s worth noting that Mikel Arteta missed out with a knock and could also be in with a shout. Cazorla – at 9.0 and 6.7 in the two games respectively – is now likely to take over free-kicks and should also grab a fair share of corners, too. All three look very reasonably priced and are set to be hugely instrumental figures as Wenger seeks to push on from the loss of a club captain for the second season in a row.

Further Reference

Robin Van Persie Wikipedia
Robin Van Persie 2011/12 Goals

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  1. Norfolk and Chance
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    thoughts?

    De Gea - Rudd
    Vermanlen - Cole - Kompany - Harte - Collocini
    Taraabt - Y Toure - Allen - Mata - Noble
    Aguero - Bent - Pogrebnyak

    Thanks.

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    1. saiprashanth93
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      way too much spent on defence..look for cheaper bargain options like swansea defenders..picking bent is a big gamble..you might want to wait and watch..

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      1. Norfolk and Chance
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 8 months ago

        Cheers, Appreciated.

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      2. sandy10
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 8 months ago

        Bent isn't a gamble,!

        He scoes consistently, even for a poor Villa side, and during his Sunderland and Charlton days, but I think Holman will be useful for a few goals....

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      3. woodles
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 8 months ago

        i like bent

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  2. RVP fc
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    What do you think of my team. Could i improve anywhere if so where?

    Jussi-(Begovic)

    Cole Fabio Hangeland -(Cuellar,Williams)

    Bale Yaya Mata(C) Pienaar-(Noble)

    Rooney Tevez Graham

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    1. Dynamo Fuchtherest
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      I dont think Rooney will get as many points this season with RVP there, will be played in a withdrawn role and will not get as many bonus points IMO.

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  3. Dynamo Fuchtherest
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    Federici
    A.Cole Kompany Hangeland
    Mata Arteta Toure Bale
    Tevez Pog Torres

    Subs: Jaas, Clyne, Britton, McCartney

    Thoughts?

    Cheers

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    1. RVP fc
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      downgrade arteta to pienaar and upgrade pog to graham

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      1. Dynamo Fuchtherest
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 8 months ago

        Cheers. Had Pienaar in originally but Everton have tricky fixtures and are generally slow starters. Not fancy Pog in double GW?

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        1. RVP fc
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 8 months ago

          Just think Graham will get alot of goals in opening fixtures. you can pick pog and get graham gw2

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          1. Dynamo Fuchtherest
            • 13 Years
            13 years, 8 months ago

            Changed to below:

            Federici
            A.Cole Kompany R.Ferdinand
            Mata Pienaar Toure Bale
            Tevez Graham Torres

            Subs: Jaas, Clyne, Guthrie, McCartney

            Cant see Pog doing anything against Chelski anyway so might as well be single GW.

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            1. RVP fc
              • 14 Years
              13 years, 8 months ago

              That a better team

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  4. Fernando Torres
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    Would you rather have
    A) 3 x 4M rotating defenders + 1M
    B) 1 4M + Cuellar + Hughes

    Both have Vidic + A.Cole

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  5. ReinaMan
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    Liverpool Football Club have reached an agreement with SC Heerenveen for the transfer of winger Oussama Assaidi, subject to the player passing a medical.

    The 24-year-old, who has scored 20 goals in 68 appearances for Heerenveen in the Dutch Eredivisie, will now undergo a medical at Melwood.

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    1. afcblegend
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      Haven't heard of this guy, but I thought it was only impressive if you scored 2 goals per game in the Eredivisie?

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      1. O Fenomeno
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 8 months ago

        😆

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  6. GarthButchers
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    RMT? Please?
    ok anyone that needs to be swapped out before I lock this team in before the madness that fpl.com will be tomorrow?
    Federici
    Cole A, Hangeland, Fabio
    Bale, Taarabt, Lampard, Noble
    Graham, Torres (c), Aguero (vc)
    (Mignolet, Rangel, Pienaar, Clyne)

    Cheers!

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    1. Sean.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      nice, i'd have a plan for some united coverage gw2 though

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  7. phoenixfeathers
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    okay I have williams(swansea) cuellar a.cole pearce and lowton in defense. and I have 0.5m to upgrade a defender.. whom should I remove from my list and go for a better one?

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    1. phoenixfeathers
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      Thinking that I should remove pearce cause I heard that he's not playing.. so should I go with shawcross/simpson/taylor (swansea)/ferdinand/coloccini? :S

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      1. phoenixfeathers
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 8 months ago

        I mean..whom should I pick from the above stated ones.. guys? any suggestions?

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  8. Button Phobic
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    Now RVP is gone does anyone think Giroud is worth a shout

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    1. Rui
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      Either him or Podolski.

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      1. Button Phobic
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 8 months ago

        With Giroud playing further forward than Pod im thinking he could offer something different

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        1. Baby Face Nelson
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 8 months ago

          He is tired according to Wenger.

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          1. red beard
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 8 months ago

            bendtner

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    2. HVT
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      Roar 🙂

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  9. RVP fc
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    Do you all think Swansea will keep many clean sheets this year?

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    1. Button Phobic
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      Not as many as last year

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      1. RVP fc
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 8 months ago

        Is it still worth having one of there defenders

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    2. qwerty123456
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      Not against Everton when Tony Hibbert will produce a magic hat-trick

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  10. WorldCupDanB
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    Is there a nailed on 4m norwich defender if so who?

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    1. Button Phobic
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      Im not going anywhere near Norwich players

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  11. phoenixfeathers
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    lowton or mccartney?

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  12. PB-THE-VET
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    Demel or macartney? Important as will be used gw3

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    1. woodles
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      mccartney

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  13. Podge
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    "Sire Alex Ferguson" ha ha did he get promoted again

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  14. flying scotsman
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    Is anyone else looking for cheap defenders from the top 4 or 5 clubs in the hope of clean sheets?

    Currently looking at the likes of rafael, jenkinson, jones and ferdinand?

    Who does everyone think will play at right back for both arsenal and man u?

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  15. matty_b_OAFC
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    ..................DDG........................(Cerny)
    .....A.Cole/Kolarov/A.Williams......(C.Clark/Clyne)
    ....Bale/Yaya/Lampard/N'Zogbia...(Noble)
    .......Tevez/Graham/Torre(c).........

    What would you change lads???
    Im not convinced still.

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    1. Dynamo Fuchtherest
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      Decent. I'd rather have mata than fat frank if you've got half a mil spare.

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  16. Dynamo Fuchtherest
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    Will Rio definintely be starting for manu this season?

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    1. Nani-17
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      Yes

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  17. TheStench
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    Graham + N'zog ------ Bent + Michu

    worth the price hike?

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    1. Robbens Diving Instructor
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      As a Villa fan, I would go for the second tbh. Bent will have a fantastic season.. just think, if Lambert can get Holt scoring fifteen, Bent could easily get get twenty plus..Michu will get plenty of assists and goals when playing in the hole as well.

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  18. sandy10
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    Federici (Cerny)

    Hangelaand Shawcross Coloccini (McCartney) (Gunter)

    Y Toure Van der Vaart Cazorla. Mata (Puncheon)

    Tevez Torres (c). Suarez

    Thoughts?

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  19. DaveZubie
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    Who do people think are the best 4.0m and 4.5m defenders?

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    1. Robbens Diving Instructor
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      gunter, lowton

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  20. Against the grain
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    young or nani?

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    1. qwerty123456
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      Hibbert

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  21. rabbit21
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    kompany and lampard

    or

    evra and hazard ?????

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  22. rickatatastan
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    Going with this for now. Might go for value and lots of defenders, but I like the look of this, Kagawa could reap even more dividends if RVP turns up.

    Cech
    (Cerny)

    Shawcross
    Cole A
    Mertesacker
    (Clyne)
    (A.Ferdinand)

    Kagawa
    Elmo
    Yaya
    Bannan
    (Britton)

    Rooney
    Aguero
    Torres

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    1. qwerty123456
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      your team could reap more divideneds with the addition of the man himself tony hibbert

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  23. I Need My Arshavin
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    Any thoughts guys?? I think I have a headache from all the tinkering!!

    Krul

    A Cole Skrtel Hangeland

    Yaya Toure Mata (VC) Michu Bale

    Graham Torres(C) Tevez

    Subs; Ruddy, Allen, Cuellar, Clyne

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    1. qwerty123456
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      Ill solve you tinkering. GET TONY HIBBERT

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  24. Lee1
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    Hey guys - thoughts on Yaya and Aguero OR Silva and Tevez?

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    1. rickatatastan
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      Yaya and Aguero. Obviously.

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  25. Hansel
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    Friedel

    A.Cole Lescott Demel

    Kagawa Noble Bale Nasri

    Tevez Graham Torres (c)

    subs: Cerny Allen Williams Cuellar

    Thoughts?

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    1. Hansel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      2.0 in bank for torres -> Roo

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      1. rickatatastan
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 8 months ago

        I like some of that. Makes me happier with my team.

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    2. qwerty123456
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      wheres Tony Hibbert? your team lacks the X factor he brings.

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  26. dewanbrookes
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    PLZ PLZ RATE MY TEAM!!

    schwarzer

    vermalen demel fabio (williamson, clyne)

    hazard toure kagawa carzola (michu)

    torres(c) pog tevez

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    1. qwerty123456
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      no tony hibbert=no hope

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  27. rmelbourne
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    Hart / Ruddy

    Vidic / Coloccini / Walker / Kompany / Shawcross

    Hazard / Allen / Yaya Toure / Noble / Lallana

    Petric / Torres / Ba

    This is my first year doing fantasy football. Hows my team selection? any thoughts! Thanks

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    1. qwerty123456
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      in desperate need of Tony Hibbert as captian

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    2. rmelbourne
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      Ive changed BA (not fit) to Graham and Vidic to A.Cole (more assists and gets forward more, plus has consistency and not injury prone *fingers crossed)

      My starting 11 is

      Hart (if fit)

      A.Cole / Kompany (v) / Walker

      Hazard / Noble / Allen / Yaya Toure

      Torres (c) / Graham / Petric

      Subs: Lallana / Coloccini / Shawcross / Ruddy

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    3. Bring Back Rutger
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      I think you've spent too heavily in defence. Keep either Shawcross or Coloccini and downgrade the other along with one of your other three to 4-4.5 defenders to free up some cash for attacking players.

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  28. qwerty123456
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    DEWANBROOKES: your team is absoulute rubbish. No team is complete without Tony Hibbert the beast as captian. you've got no hope without him.

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    1. dewanbrookes
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      y would u be so mean

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  29. brianokeeffe14141414
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    RMT please

    Krul£5.5
    Vorm£5.5

    Clichy£6.0
    Evra£7.0
    Taylor R£5.5
    Walker£6.5
    Heitinga£5.5

    Chamberlain£7.5
    McClean£6.5
    Sigurdsson£9.0
    Walters£6.5
    Britton£4.5

    Aguero£11.5
    Pogrebnyak£5.0
    Jelavic£8.5 i’m new so any advice would be great, thanks

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    1. qwerty123456
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      If you want to do well, sell Aguero for Ji-wong Dong. Then get the man himself, Poseidon’s greatest warrior, TONY HIBBERT.

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    2. Bring Back Rutger
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      You have way too many expensive keepers and defenders. Downgrade and beef up your midfield. You;d also want at least one Chelsea player for the double game week.

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  30. Royale-with-Cheese
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    RMT please:

    Jaaskelainen - Federici

    Cole - Hangeland - Simpson - Barnett - Clyne

    Hazard - Toure - Bale - Lallana - Noble

    Torres - Aguero - Pogs

    with 2mil in the bank for Torres-Rooney and Cole-Lescott after GW1

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