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10 August 2014 6110 comments
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With just six days remaining until the 2014/15 season gets up and running, City and Arsenal go head-to-head for the Community Shield this afternoon. As expected, both side’s starting line-ups have been heavily influenced by a lack of pre-season action for a number of World Cup stars, though Arsene Wenger hands all three of his main summer signings competitive debuts:

Man City Starting XI: Caballero; Clichy, Boyata, Nastasic, Kolarov; Navas, Fernando, Toure, Nasri; Jovetic, Dzeko

Arsenal Starting XI: Szczesny; Debuchy, Koscielny, Chambers, Gibbs; Arteta, Wilshere; Alexis, Ramsey, Cazorla; Sanogo

For City, Stevan Jovetic has the chance to continue the form which has harvested five goals over the summer so far. The Montenegro international is partnered by Edin Dzeko up top and, whilst the likes of Samir Nasri and Yaya Toure also make the XI, Arsenal will be optimistic of taking advantage of an experimental City backline, which sees Gael Clichy fielded as a right-back once again and Aleks Kolarov patrolling the left.

Arsene Wenger names Mathieu Debuchy and Callum Chambers in defence alongside Laurent Koscielny and Kieran Gibbs. Aaron Ramsey owners will be buoyed by what appears to be a move to the attacking midfield three alongside Santi Cazorla and Alexis Sanchez, with Mikel Arteta and Jack Wilshere sitting in front of the defence. Up front, Sanchez’ role out wide means Yaya Sanogo gets the nod after his four-goal demolition of Benfica in last week’s Emirates Cup, with Olivier Giroud warming the bench again.

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  1. Rödallegabomb ᴿᴮ
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    Home Run Baker around??

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    1. Home Run Baker
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      Here

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      1. Rödallegabomb ᴿᴮ
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        When you calculated VORP, what did you do when you had a player who's price was the same as the base price? Say, you are using 4.5 as the base, and the player is 4.5?

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        1. Home Run Baker
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          Good question.
          To be honest, this approach doesn't work because you end up dividing discretionary spend (0m) by another small number (VORP) for cheap players. I think the method works for higher-priced players only. I've been trying to think of a better way to go about this, but haven't come up with it yet.

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          1. Rödallegabomb ᴿᴮ
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            Okay, thanks for letting me know. I have been tinkering around trying to find a way, and I could only find that the best way is to remove those players from the calculation completely.

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            1. Home Run Baker
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              Makes sense.

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  2. Brentmeister General
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    Who do people think the best midfielder is up to the value of £5.0m? Barry, Davis, Albrighton, Rodwell? Anyone else?! Cheers.

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    1. Strificus
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      Davis

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      1. Brentmeister General
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        Ok cheers. Obv not much to choose from at the price. Must admit haven't personally watched much of Davis but if he starts may be worth a punt for my 5th midfielder.

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    2. MJ6987
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      Maybe Albrighton if he is fit otherwise Davis

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    3. Pinecone
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      JWP

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  3. Yome
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    Henderson or Siggy?

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    1. Pinecone
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      Siggy

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  4. Cantona90
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    Can't decide between a goalkeeping partnership of Foster/Guzan or Speroni/Green.

    Foster seems to be a popular pick round these parts but west broms defence seems lacklustre at best.

    Help me decide people:

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    1. palace ash
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      Don't go Speroni - Hennessey will start.

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      1. Spin
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        Are you sure about this?
        I thought Hennessey was getting preseason games only.
        Why would Speroni be axed, he was great last yr?

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        1. palace ash
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          I have a strong feeling that the only reason he came to the club was that Pulis promised him first team action this year.

          Speroni will play second fiddle.

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    2. Spin
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      I've gone for Mannone / Krul myself
      Was looking at Mannone / Guzan but Guzan fixtures are awful in opening 8 wks and i like the home/away rotation of New, Sund

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      1. Cantona90
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        But Mannone doesn't look 100% nailed on with Pantilimon lurking. I want a couple of keepers I'm not gonna have to worry about. The other option is I could have David De Gea instead of Jonny Evans for the same price. And pair him with Schmeichel possibly. Don't know who else really rotates with United apart from City.

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        1. Spin
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          Heres the rotation spreadsheet for this season (not my work, i got it from someone else in here last week)
          Mannone was excellent last yr, cant see him being dropped but it is a worry....

          https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mMrxb451yZkEyGzLHoStfiWA0MBz6aY9d4bygxgKxOU/edit?pli=1#gid=34946745

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  5. Nicks93
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    Speroni/Gilks

    Cahill/Chester/Chambers/Ferdinand/Wisdom

    Is this back 4 good enough ?

    Obviously chambers is not here for the longterm

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    1. Nicks93
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      I mean backline in general

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    2. Shipstontrev
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      What about a Sunderland defender like PVA instead of Rio?

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      1. Nicks93
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        I only went for rio bbecauseof the rotation with Hull

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    3. KISSES
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      Yes

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    4. palace ash
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      Not sure Chambers will be playing next weekend, and I think Hennesey will get the nod over Speroni!

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  6. Strificus
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    1) Terry + Mutch
    2) Tadic + Colo

    It's hard to move off Tadic; as I think he has great potential.

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    1. Cantona90
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      He was deployed on the left of a front three yesterday I believe although Koeman thinks he still needs a bit of adapting to english football. Whether that means he could get dropped I don't know. I would wait and see what he does before you get him.

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      1. Strificus
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        Thanks; I might have to go for #1

        Mutch did me well last year on my squad. 😛

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  7. MJ6987
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    So, I have kneejerked Ramsey in. I was thinking of the move anyway (actually asked about it this morning!) but the goal pushed me over the edge

    Krul Elliott
    Evans Ward Caulker Hutton Wisdom
    Hazard Mata Ramsey Siggy Albrighton (if fit?)
    Rooney Costa Dzeko

    Looks good, doesn't it?

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    1. Toonzie
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      vry weak backline imo else looks good

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      1. MJ6987
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        Back line is not great admittedly but not too bad. Would rather spend the money on big hitters.

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    2. Strificus
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      My team is very close; but instead of Alb and Dzeko; I went for Jovetic and Davis

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      1. MJ6987
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        Ok, I prefer Dzeko, partly because he is easy to switch to other decent options.

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        1. Spectrum-FFS Doubles Champ
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          Agreed.

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    3. Evs
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      Pretty good.

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      1. Evs
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        But you'll be crying by gw3 that you haven't got a Chelsea defender 😉

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        1. MJ6987
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          Trouble is, I only really trust Cahill at the moment and he is pricey. I wouldn't rule out Azpi being pretty nailed on but not sure yet.

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          1. mdm
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            Dzeko -> Austin
            Hutton -> Cahill

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            1. MJ6987
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              Nah. Not for me.

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        2. pundit of punts
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          This.

          A defender's CS is equivalent to a forward's goal.

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          1. MJ6987
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            Almost, less chance of baps though

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    4. Debauchy
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      Got fairly similar - so like.
      Spent the extra on GKs though with Krul and Bego - mean Haz to Sterling though , but Im content

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      1. MJ6987
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        Hazard is one of my must-haves. Planned him before the prices came out. Krul / Bego? It's a toss up who scores more IMO.

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    5. Spectrum-FFS Doubles Champ
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      I have 11 of those so yes 🙂

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      1. MJ6987
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        Nice.

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        1. Spectrum-FFS Doubles Champ
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          No knee jerking Ramsey in on my part I have

          Pieters Bartley to your Wisdom Hutton
          Eriksen Isgrove to your Ramsey Albrighton

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    6. beric
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      Thats almost my team atm

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      1. MJ6987
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        This is reassuring!

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        1. beric
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          Im not happy with our keepers though

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          1. Spectrum-FFS Doubles Champ
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            Me neither.

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          2. MJ6987
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            Keepers Schmeepers

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            1. MJ6987
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              Actually that sounds a bit like Kasper Schmeichel!

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    7. Home Run Baker
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      Looks great IMO

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      1. MJ6987
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        Thanks pal!

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  8. GloryF
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    What do you think?

    Krul----Mannone
    Jones---Terry---Lovren---Chester---Wisdom
    Fabs---Sanchez---Mata---Sterling---Boyd
    Roo---Jovetic---Jutkiewicz

    I was thinking about getting Ramsey for Sanchez and someone cheap for Lovren, but I'm not sure what would I do with the money. Maybe Cabella in for Boyd.

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  9. Respect My Authoritah
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    Sooo Costa or Dzeko/Jovetic?

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    1. Strificus
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      Costa

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  10. Evs
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    I didn't watch the game, but contrary to opinion on here Mr Keown thought Sanchez played well...

    "It was the way Manchester City started the game. They were better in the second half but in the first half Arsenal moved the ball beautifully and Alexis Sanchez, in his wide right position, looked dangerous for Arsenal.

    "It is a good way to take Arsene Wenger into a new season and he will be delighted. He looks five years younger after winning the FA Cup and going back to Wembley to win again today."

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    1. Heydudes13
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      Yes.

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    2. Debauchy
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      I thought so as well. However I realised when I got Ramsey in early last season there was a reason.
      Ramsey just seems to be on the "ever improve" so will hold off on Sanchez a little while longer.

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    3. Rossaldinho
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      • 16 Years
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      Evs - are you starting with Sanchez then? Like Keown I thought he looked really dangerous and until now I have had both him and Ramsey in my team. Without Sanchez however I can get 2 big hitters - Eriksen and Sterling...dilemma!

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  11. Piggs Boson
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    Hazard & Ward

    or

    Nasri & Terry?

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    1. TheSteel
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      First one for me bud

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    2. Kerz
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      The former. I can see Hazard starting the season very well against the newly promoted teams.

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    3. Strificus
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      Nasri + Terry

      Nasri looked well today and Terry is money in the bank.

      Hazard seems like he'll start slow and Ward is not Terry.

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    4. pundit of punts
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      Find a way to fit all four.

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  12. Kerz
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    I'm looking at a QPR/Palace rotation in defence. For 9.5, should I go with :

    i. Ward + Ferdinand

    or

    ii. Caulker + Mariappa

    Cheers

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    1. Sunny 😎
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      A

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  13. Pinecone
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    Who's more nailed on Gamboa or Wisdom ?

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    1. Jax
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      this no one knows

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    2. applebonkers
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      wisdom i'd say, fully acclimatised to the dour ways of an ex moyes assistant already

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      1. Shipstontrev
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        😆

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  14. NeymarJR11
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    Sterling, Felipe Luis and Ward Prowse
    or
    Henderson, Ramsey and Van Aanholt

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  15. Jafooli
    • 14 Years
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    The 'Zero Points' league is open for business - 1505804-347126

    Simply try to end the season on zero points.

    Prize: Nothing

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    1. Heydudes13
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      😆

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    2. TheSteel
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      • 13 Years
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      Get vermaelan

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      1. Jafooli
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        To expensive 😀

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    3. Mílanista
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      Milanista's Dog will enter later.

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      1. Jafooli
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        Excellent, spread the word, dogs only.......

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    4. Respect My Authoritah
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      The ability to take points hits ruins this a bit

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      1. Jafooli
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        True, so taking hits will get disqualified 😀

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      2. Strificus
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        Thus began the start of the negative points league. ha

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        1. Jafooli
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          Yeah this will be closest to zero wins. Not hits allowed.

          If you get a point, you need to gamble on a Burnley def vs Liverpool away, hope you get -1pt

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    5. Mílanista
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      • 14 Years
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      Watchlist players and captain options for when things go wrong:

      Hooiveld
      Saylor
      Baker
      Hutton
      Cattemole

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      1. Jafooli
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        😀 now you're talking.....

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    6. Mílanista
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      Point hits against the rules yeah?

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      1. Jafooli
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        Yeah, see above, new rule 😛

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    7. Piggs Boson
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      1. Jafooli
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        😛

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    8. MJ6987
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      Surely, you just get 15 players who will never play?

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      1. Jafooli
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        'Hope' they will never play 😉

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  16. Jafooli
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    Only 1.5m signed up so far. Was 3.2m by the end of last year. WC burnout?

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    1. Pasqualinho
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      Around 2m when GW1 started. I believe. It's still easily possible to match that this year.

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      1. A.T
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        3m last year gw1

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    2. Mílanista
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      FPL sign up in general or the zero pointers league?

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      1. Jafooli
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        😆

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    3. A.T
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      The peloton is nigh.

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  17. Djerbil
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    To choose 1:

    A) Mata
    or
    B) Cesc

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    1. sozopol
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      Mata

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    2. TheSteel
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      A all day. Hands down, hands up no doubt whatsoever.

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    3. Kerz
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      Mata. He has looked sharp so far during pre-season and will thrive under van Gaal's system.

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  18. The Governor
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    I always struggle to pick a decent starting team, and ending up wildcarding after a few weeks.

    Identifying any teams starting 11 next weekend is turning into an absolute nightmare!

    Is anybody nailed on!?

    I just don't know anymore!!!!!

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  19. Townsends Tactics Truck
    • 12 Years
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    This would be pure madness, right?

    Krul / Mannone

    Hutton / O'Shea / Moore / Ferdinand/ Baird or Wisdom

    Sanchez / Sterling / Eriksen / Mata / Hazard

    Dzeko / Rooney / Naismith or Bent

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    1. Townsends Tactics Truck
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      *To play 3-5-2

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    2. KISSES
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      Yep

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  20. Colonel Shoe 肝池
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    so ramsey pre season form knee jerk is allowed but every other one should be ignored 😕

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    1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
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      realise its not a massive kneejerk after last season, but i though sanchez was the man

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      1. Exilizer
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        Sanchez will need time, this was apparent today.

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  21. Yome
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    Is Kaboul nailed on? He captained his team today...

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    1. Demí
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      Not sure anyone knows who's nailed on yet, apart from Vert and Walker. Kaboul has a strong chance though, needs to stay fit.

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      1. Yome
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        Right, his problem is that he doesn't stay fit for too long. I reckon he is not worth the risk.

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        1. Jax
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          dunno how kaboul would be nailed on. he's a car crash.

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    2. applebonkers
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      they still look set to sign this musacchio guy which isn't ideal

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  22. Exilizer
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    A) Couthinho & Siggy
    B) Eriksen/Lamela & Hendo

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  23. sozopol
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    Could someone recommend a 2-way 4.5/4.0 defense rotation?

    Rest of Def is DDG/Gilks, Terry, Ward, Chambers

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  24. Nurse Chilli
    • 11 Years
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    I'm set until next Friday

    DDG
    Bavies/Luis/Chambers
    Schurrle/Mata/Holtby/Hazard/Ramsey
    Jovetic/Rooney

    Elliott
    Hutton/Robertson/Sanogo

    Might start Sanogo depending on team news, if not I'm going to bring Nugent in and drop Schurrle or Holtby. 1.5 in the bank as well.

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    1. Jax
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      schurrle?
      holtby?

      I'd reconsider these...

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  25. Twelve years a slave
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    Just realised something shocking

    Team looks ten times better with Bojan in it

    With
    Hazard Ramsey Mata Sterling
    Without
    Fabregas Ramsey Mata Siggi

    That first team look so much better, compromise is bojan instead of Giroud. But for first few fixtures Bojan looks good, while giroud , although he scored not really that fit

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    1. Heydudes13
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      Incredible how cheap players give you more money elsewhere.

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    2. MJ6987
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      Who are you trying to convince? Us? Or you? 😉

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  26. Sunny 😎
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    Anymore friendlies left to scout tonight?

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    1. Jax
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      chelsea

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  27. Fernando Torres
    • 14 Years
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    Sterling or lukaku?

    First to 5 guys!

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    1. OptimusBlack
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      Sterling

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    2. pekka
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      sterling

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    3. MJ6987
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      Sterling

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    4. Qubit
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      Lukaku

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    5. Jax
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      lukaku is ou

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      1. Jax
        • 16 Years
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        out

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  28. OptimusBlack
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    What do u think about This Defence ?

    Begovic ( Gilks )

    Evans 5.5 M / Terry 6.5 M / Coloccini 4.5 M / Ward 5 M / Caulker 5 M

    I need More Replies more Opinions ....

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    1. TheSteel
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      • 13 Years
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      Pricey

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      1. Super John McGinn-
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        This

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    2. mdm
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      too expensive

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  29. wheato
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    What are peoples thoughts on Mutch?

    Weighing him up as a 4th mid in place of Siggy?

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    1. A.T
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      Game time would be a worry.

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    2. applebonkers
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      scored the same as henderson last season despite playing for cardiff instead of 100 goal liverpool and playing 865mins less

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      1. applebonkers
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        (the past is largely irrelevent but i like him)

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    3. MJ6987
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      Good option

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    4. Prime
      • 12 Years
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      Biggest worry for me is where he'll play. Good option if he is assured to play in the hole.

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    5. wheato
      • 13 Years
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      Cheers all...think i'm going to go for it.

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  30. Abusive_Sgt_Daelrhos
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 8 months ago

    Best 5.5 nailed on defender please? Got Evans already

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    1. Debauchy
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      Easy - Debuchy

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    2. Shipstontrev
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      Debuchy

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    3. applebonkers
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      • 16 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      liking lovren and gibbs right now

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      1. Abusive_Sgt_Daelrhos
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 8 months ago

        Ty guys

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