Moving Target
11 August 2016 2600 comments
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Having bolstered Man City’s attacking options with the acquisition of Nolito and Leroy Sane, new manager Pep Guardiola moved to strengthen his defence this week with the signing of Everton defender John Stones for a fee believed to be £47.5 million.

The 22-year-old England international put pen to paper on a six-year deal at the Etihad, and speaking to the club’s official website, revealed his happiness at joining City, and his desire to earn his place in Guardiola’s starting XI:

“I’ve obviously seen what’s going on here at the Etihad, it’s an ambitious club with a great manager so I can’t wait to get stuck in and help achieve the goals. I know it will be tough getting a place in this team but I’m determined to become the best player I can be and help us to success.”

The History

Stones came through Barnsley’s youth set-up, progressing all the way through to the first team. He made his professional debut in a 4-0 defeat to Reading in March 2012, and managed 28 appearances in all competitions for the Tykes, scoring one goal.

In January 2013, Everton paid Barnsley a fee reportedly in the region of £3 million to secure the young defender’s services, although he had to wait until August 2013 to make his debut for the Toffees, coming in a 2-1 against Stevenage in the League Cup.

Stones’ Premier League debut eventually came in a 1-1 draw against Stoke in January 2014, and he enjoyed a strong second half of the campaign, racking up a further 20 league appearances.

Whilst injury curtailed Stones’ progress during the first half of the 2014/15 season, he ended the campaign as a regular starter, and totaled 23 league appearances, scoring one goal.

Last season, the cultured centre-back was Phil Jagielka’s regular partner at the heart of the Everton defence, clocking up 33 appearances, although he failed to register any attacking returns. His individual performances did come under some criticism, though, with Everton’s disappointing campaign eventually leading to the departure of Roberto Martinez.

Stones represented England at Under 19, Under 20 and Under 21 levels, making 17 appearances in total, before earning a senior debut off the bench in a 3-0 win over Peru in May 2014. He was included in Roy Hodgson’s squad for Euro 2016, but was one of only two outfield players, along with Ross Barkley, not to feature in the tournament. He currently has 10 international caps but has yet to score for his country.

The Prospects

With Vincent Kompany expected to miss the opening weeks of the season due to a thigh injury, Stones will fancy his chances of going straight into the starting XI for Saturday’s season opener against Sunderland.

Guardiola started with Aleksandar Kolarov and Fernando in central defence in City’s final pre-season match against Arsenal, but it could be that Stones partners Nicolas Otamendi against the Black Cats. The England man has got plenty of minutes under his belt playing for the Toffees during pre-season, and should physically at least be ready for the big kick-off.

Furthermore, Eliaquim Mangala has not been included in City’s Champions League squad, which indicates the Frenchmen will likely be allowed to leave before the transfer window closes.

Guardiola favours using a four-man backline, so when Kompany does return to full fitness, it could leave Stones and Otamendi battling for one position. Given the investment made in the England international, he may be the one to keep his place providing he settles quickly in Manchester.

The major positive for Stones’ prospects is the fact Guardiola places so much emphasis on his defenders initiating attacks through their distribution, as he explained last month:

“Normally central defenders are strong in the air and aggressive. But we need to have a good build-up to create easy passes in the midfield so they can create good passes for the strikers. I believe when the ball goes from the central defender to the striker as quickly as possible, it comes as quickly as possible back.”

Crucially, amongst all defenders who played over 1000 minutes last season, Stones was ranked fourth for completed passes with 88%, illustrating his capability as a ball-playing defender.

Comparing the underlying statistics of Stones, Kompany and Otamendi from last season, it’s the Argentine who comes out on top. The former Valencia defender averaged a tackle every 21.4 minutes, far superior to both Kompany (45.9) and Stones (48.1). He held a similar advantage in terms of interceptions too, managing one every 27 minutes, better than both Stones (52.4) and Kompany (53.9).

The only significant area where Stones led the way amongst the trio came via blocks, averaging one every 83.9 minutes, far better than both Otamendi (215.9) and Kompany (310).

Otamendi could hold the edge for CBI, then, although the fact Kompany only managed 13 starts last season and was generally far from his best is perhaps not indicative of what we can expect if he can stay fit for a prolonged period of time.

The big factor in Stones’ favour from a Fantasy perspective is the fact he’s priced at 5.0 in Fantasy Premier League (FPL), whereas both Kompany and Otamendi are valued at 6.0.

That disparity is likely to be one of the main reasons why Stones’ ownership has soared to 27% since the move was confirmed, and if City can equal or better the 16 clean sheets they accrued last season, the former Barnsley man could provide fantastic value providing he’s a regular starter.

As highlighted by this recent in-depth article on Guardiola’s tactics, the signs are promising:

“Guardiola has had the best defensive record in every league campaign of his career at Barcelona and Bayern Munich. Tellingly, the most goals he’s ever conceded came in the first of those seven seasons and the fewest came in his last one with Bayern”.

Stones does, however, lack any real goal threat, having only averaged an attempt every 366.9 minutes last term. That was far worse than Otamendi (104) and Kompany (112.7), both of whom have scored at decent number of goals throughout their careers.

City’s fixtures over the first six Gameweeks (SUN, sto, WHM, mun, BOU, swa) are fairly mixed though, so while Stones may offer tremendous value now playing for a side expected to compete for the title, it may take Guardiola time to get his methods across to his players – something that won’t be helped by Stones’ late arrival should he be thrust straight into the action.

Over the course of the season then, there’s every expectation that Stones could develop as a viable FPL asset under Guardiola’s guidance.

With a number of similarly priced options such as Robert Huth, Michael Keane, Ramiro Funes Mori, Alberto Moreno, Steve Cook, Patrick van Aanholt and Craig Dawson offering significantly greater goal threat, though, the City new boy may need to up his attacking output to offer exceptional value.

Further Reference

John Stones Wikipedia

John Stones Transfer Markt Page

John Stones You Tube

  1. hawkeye2604
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    I know this is top-heavy, but I wanted flexibility and have packed in creative mf at a lower price than the top-dogs. What do you reckon?

    Valdes (Pickford)
    Stones Morgan Pieters (Kone / Paredes)
    Mahrez Lallana Bolasie Bojan (Capoue)
    Aguero Kane Ibra

    1. The HøneyMøns…
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Change bojan to Redmond
      Lallana to Oscar

    2. Belsunz
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Lamela/Redmond are better picks than Llallana and Bolasie/Bojan in MF if you go with that forward line.

    3. hawkeye2604
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Thanks for advice - been tempted by Oscar / Willian but just no idea who will start. Will monitor Bojan though as if he stays fit he could be a big points scorer this season

  2. Razmataz
    • 15 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    Any Swansea fans?

    Will Amat be fist pick?

    1. Razmataz
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      *first

    2. Tom1912
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Until they sign another CB almsot definitely

      1. Razmataz
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        Isn't van der hoorn a centre back?

  3. Bubz
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    I have officially changed from Gray to Andy Carroll.

    Carroll playing up top with those players behind him (Payet looking like he might even start gw1), in a team bound to score goals, has to be a better prospect at the same price as an unproven lad in a newly promoted Burnley that doesn't have much in the way of creative spark.

    1. FrankieTheGent
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      I like that you can rotate him with long or redmond

    2. DanwiseTheBrave
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      I foresee a 2 pointer first up though.

      1. Bubz
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        Certainly possible, although I think there will be goals in that first game

    3. Emp
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      ive never moved it from carrol

    4. Alan Hansen's Emu
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Payet wont start GW1

      1. Bubz
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        Guessing you didnt hear the press conference this morning?

  4. FrankieTheGent
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    Scoutcast tonight should be a good listen.

  5. George Agdgdgwngo
    • 16 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    Thinking about a 4-3-3 team....

    Foster,
    Stones, Valencia, terry, Kone, Amat,
    Hazard, lamela, redmond
    Aguero, Ibra, vardy

    Jaku Kone Hojberg Capoue

    1. George Agdgdgwngo
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Obviously Kone not on the bench! Amat on the bench!

    2. Chief Break-Everything
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      I like. And you even managed to squeeze Haz in with that front three. Kudos.

      Now I need your bonk details. Good evening madame

      1. George Agdgdgwngo
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        Ha!

  6. FPL Footy Show Pod
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    Feel like Steklenburg slipped under radar @ 5.0

    Also dumped Eriksen for Lamela for Tot coverage

    Good idea or bad idea?

    1. Ten Season Wonder
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Lamela is going to have a good season

    2. Jigger & Pony
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Lamela is a punt. Could work out nicely.

      1. FPL Footy Show Pod
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        What are we saying about this as a possible finished article

        Steklenburg

        Shaw / Friend / Morgan

        Haz / Townsend / Lamela / Tadic

        Long / Kun / Vardy

        Jaku - Amat - Koné - Ramirez

        1.5 itb!

        1. jurgenklopp.8
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 6 months ago

          use the 1.5, or at least some of it

          1. FPL Footy Show Pod
            • 9 Years
            9 years, 6 months ago

            Was planning on a switch to Kane GW2

  7. tissae
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    Hello, RMT please. Where can I improve?

    Foster/Jaku
    Shaw/Stones/Williams/Friend/Amat
    Hazard/Alli/Tadic/Ramirez/Fletcher
    Gray/Ibra/Kun

  8. Goodnight Kiwi
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    Was thinking I'd have Firmino at some stage this year. Is now the time to get him in?

    Siggy + Townsend
    or
    Firmino + Zaha?

    1. ⚽️ Barry Chocolate ⚽…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Sighs out

  9. Ten Season Wonder
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    'Attacking full back', Seamus Coleman
    or
    'BAPS magnet' Ashley Williams (+ extra 0.5m)

    1. Greenbackbøøg…
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      B

    2. ⚽️ Barry Chocolate ⚽…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Ones nailed, one isn't.

    3. Jigger & Pony
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      You think Williams will play over Jagielka and Funes Mori?

      1. Ten Season Wonder
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        I don't think Williams would go there to sit on the bench that's for sure.

      2. Eze Really?
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        I think Jags will end up at Sunderland and the only reason not happened yet in the Kone deal and injury.

    4. Emp
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      coleman

  10. Atwood
    • 15 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    Thoughts anyone?

    Valdes - Jankupovic
    Stones - Shaw - Souare - Evans - Pieters
    Hazard - Firmino - Deulofeu - Lamela - Capoue
    Gray - Ibrahimovic - Aguero

    1. Jigger & Pony
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Decent. Lamela and Delf are a bit punty but strong otherwise.

      1. Atwood
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        Yeah, Lamela's something of a personal hunch. Every team needs one right?

        1. Jigger & Pony
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 6 months ago

          Yup. Mine is Routledge.

    2. Ten Season Wonder
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Team looks mustard mate

      1. Atwood
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        Thanks pal

  11. Blanka
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    Want Firminho but means sacrificing Tadic and cutting 0.5 mill elsewhere. Worth it? I really like Tadic and know could squeeze Redmond in but not guaranteed starts for me and Tadic is on all set pieces. Fpl really does take over your life.

    1. Jigger & Pony
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      If losing Tadic I would go Long over Redmond

    2. Blanka
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Yeah Long was in my initial squad, but then with Tadic in, toying with Carrol and Gray.

      1. Jigger & Pony
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        Personally I am going with Tadic until I know more about Saints' setup

      2. *sigh*
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        Carroll and Long rotate bud

  12. Jigger & Pony
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    How come Paddy McNair was sold for under GBP 5.5mn? Thought he was pretty ok last year.

    1. ⚽️ Barry Chocolate ⚽…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Mourinho's youth policy

  13. Neil_Riley
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    Would greatly appreciate a quick RMT:

    Forster Butland
    Shaw Stones Evans Williams Morgan
    Tadic Barkley Townsend Mahrez Maloney
    Aguero Vardy Long

    Not sure whether to change Williams and Morgan to Baines and Pieters/McAuley?

    1. Grumpy Camel
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Keepers are a bit pricey. I like the rest

    2. ⚽️ Barry Chocolate ⚽…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Too much in GK & def for me. Too much Leics, Everton & Soton also.

  14. jamie1972
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    Musa too punty this early?

    1. Ten Season Wonder
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      I think so

  15. Redborn
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    a or b?

    a)

    heaton
    fuchs friend sagna
    tadic fabregas firmino eriksen
    aguero vardy gray

    jaku mcauley gradel amat

    b)

    heaton
    fuchs stones valencia
    tadic hazard firmino lamela
    aguero vardy carroll

    jaku mcauley hojbjerg amat

    1. Grumpy Camel
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      B

    2. ⚽️ Barry Chocolate ⚽…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      B with gray not carroll

  16. Chief Break-Everything
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    Rate My Trolls

    1. Chief Break-Everything
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Hart
      Baines /Moreno /Kompany
      Mane /Barkley /Wallcot /Hazard
      Lukaku /Benteke /Bojan

      1. KickIt
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        Needs more Kolarov!

  17. Grumpy Camel
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    Ready to go I think.

    Foster (juk)
    VVD stones friend pieters Francis
    Hazard firmino capoue Bolasie tadic
    Aguero Ibra grey

  18. munchod
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    Is Joe Allen nailed on? I think he can be a hidden gem, no?

    Cheers!

    1. TokyoRisingSun
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      he might well be! if he was 4.5m instead i'd be jumping on him straight away

    2. Grumpy Camel
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      No

  19. Wings Fan
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    Any obvious areas for improvement?

    Foster

    Valencia - Morgan - Stones

    Hazard - Firmino - Tadic - Lamela

    Gray - Aguero - Vardy
    -----------------------------------------------
    Jakupovic - Hojbjerg - Friend - Kone

  20. Ten Season Wonder
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    Will Ashley Williams still be the BAPS magnet that he was for Swansea?

    1. Emp
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      probably not

  21. _Ninja_
    • 15 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    Best option here? cheers

    A Ibra + Lamela
    B Vardy + Ali/Eriksen

    1. Ten Season Wonder
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Vardy & Alli (or Lamela)

      It's not always the most expensive players that will get you the points.

  22. matty_b_OAFC
    • 15 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    Martial and Townsend or Firmino and Tadic?

    1. Chief Break-Everything
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Firmadic

      1. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        This.

  23. Jimjam
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    Valencia, Terry, Stones, ???, Amat

    A) Koné
    B) Friend

    1. TheEgyptianKing
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Kone is at everton, Friend if not

  24. TheEgyptianKing
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    Swansea have the best start imo, and with ayew and williams people would deffo have there players -->

    But as theyre gone people arent considering them, but im toooooooooo tempted by Siggy 🙁

    1. ⚽️ Barry Chocolate ⚽…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Siggy out gw1

  25. Hakuna Juan Mata
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    Williams or Stones

    Gray or Long

    Oscar or Hazard

  26. thepeen555
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    I'm thinking Ramirez for a starting spot over gradel for gw1 what do u think? I'm going 3-4-3 this weekend I think

  27. Emp
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    why do people think redmond will not be nailed ? even if puel changes to 4-5-1 for tougher fixtures what competition does redmond have playing on the right ? surely not charlie austen

  28. Bobmarley121
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    Ok this is it my final team selection

    Valdes (jakupovic)

    Williams stones Valencia
    (Paredes) (Amat)

    Ali firmino Townsend tadic
    (Hojbjerg)

    Costa vardy aguero

  29. FPL ElasticO
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    Is Ibra essential from the start??

    Will Vardy be a saviour??

    Will I rather have Mkhy or Martial from United??

    Also best midprice MF???

    Can anyone sort me out in this???

    1. TokyoRisingSun
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      a) ibra isn't essential

      b) vardy looks good

      c) would go with martial over micky, he's more nailed on atm

      d) probably tadic

  30. il Brutto
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    Changes of starting?

    1) Jakupovic
    2) Hennessey

    1. il Brutto
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      *chances

    2. ⚽️ Barry Chocolate ⚽…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      100 - 50