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Heading into the 2017/18 season, the Fantasy Premier League reclassification of Roberto Firmino from midfielder to forward was a source of much chatter.

Three Gameweeks in and Firmino has made fools of those of us who shied away.

The Brazilian sits joint-top in the overall standings on 26 points, having notched two goals, a pair assists, and twice taken home a maximum bonus points haul. Indeed, only Manchester United’s Henrikh Mkhitaryan (106) leads Firmino (101) in the Bonus Points System (BPS) to date.

Over this international break, interest in the Liverpool man has been understandably high. He has experienced one price hike already (from 8.5 to 8.6), and could possibly rise again between now and the Gameweek 4 deadline.

With Liverpool in rampant form – as evidenced by last week’s 4-0 demolition of Arsenal – Firmino offers managers an opportunity to save valuable funds by downgrading a premium forward option to a lower-priced alternative who has hitherto managed to outperform his more expensive rivals.

Here in the Technical Area, we thought that this week represented a good opportunity to dig into Firmino’s game in greater depth.

Specifically, we will be exploring how his profile compares to that of other FPL forwards and whether that early-season form can continue as the campaign unfolds.

  1. royals forever
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Do you think that I need to WC this team

    Foster Elliott

    Mee Dunk Danilo Bertrand TAA

    Salah Pogba Ritchie Carroll Brunt

    Lukaku Kane Chicarito

    or

    Just sell one of Danilo or TAA instead

    Any ideas would be welcomed

    1. Delhidynamo
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      I'd keep TAA if he's fit

    2. Speédy
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      No wc, a hit or two can sort it out.

    3. Emp
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      nah, danilo to blind works

    4. Offs!de
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      I'd rather save the FT

      1. Emp
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        actually save works nicely as well as you dont need to play danilo

  2. Scapegoat Salah
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    GTG?

    Foster
    Alonso | Davies | Naughton
    Mane | Pogba | Brady | Atsu
    Kane (C) | Lukaku (VC) | Firmino

    Elliot | Daniels | T. Carroll | Mbemba

    Thanks

    1. Offs!de
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Clearly GTG

      1. Scapegoat Salah
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        Thanks, beauty of the WC!

    2. Partick Bateman
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      I have a similar team on WC also. In the Brady and Atsu spots, did you consider Davis (SOU) and Brunt / Mooy?

    3. Kun Tozser
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Check if Rose is back, fpl saying back 9 Sept

      Prefer Spurs double over Liverpool with fixtures

      1. Kun Tozser
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        ... over Liverpool so Eriksen/Alli over Mane for me

    4. Francescoli
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      maybe drop Daniels for Naughton or a defender from Everton or Leicester.

    5. Scapegoat Salah
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Thanks all

  3. Offs!de
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Can I hold my wc two more gws or it looks imminent with my shaky mids?

    KDB | Tadic | Richarlison | Phillips | TC
    Kane | Kaku | Firmi

    Have 1FT & 0.5m itb

    1. Respect My Authoritah
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Well, a -4 and it'll instantly look better

      1. Offs!de
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        KDB to Mkhi/Pogba, I understand
        another who for who?

        1. Eric Banternaaa
          • 12 Years
          8 years, 6 months ago

          Tadic > Salah/Mane Alli/Eriksen

          or

          KDB/Tadic/Kaku > Pogba/Mkhi/Morata

        2. Respect My Authoritah
          • 12 Years
          8 years, 6 months ago

          Tadic to Salah

    2. Emp
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      id probably wc that lot tbh

      1. Guru Mediation
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        Bad advice. The front 3 is perfect he just needs to make 2 changes in midfield which isn't wildcard worthy

    3. Speédy
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      If defense and forwards are settled,don't wc. KDB+Tadic - Mo Salah + mkhi/pogba for -4?

      1. Offs!de
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        Forwards: Kane, Luka, Firmino
        Defence: Alonso, Bertrend, Lascelles, Alexander, Rangel

    4. Scapegoat Salah
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Try to save it if you can, also with the fixtures this week I think you're fine to keep KDB etc rather than swap them out.

      No standout fixtures to warrant the change.

  4. Eric Banternaaa
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    What needs changing first? Danilo looks likely to be dropped this week.. 1FT 0.7ITB

    Foster | Elliot
    Cedric | Ake | Mee | Danilo | Long
    Alli | Mkhi | Mane | Pogba | Carroll
    Lukaku | Firminio | Gabiadinni

    1. Emp
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      ye danilo to blind/davies

  5. TheTinman
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    I get quite a lot from this article. Interesting thanks.

    1. Make United Great Again
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Me too 🙂

  6. SpaceCadet
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Play one this gw

    a. mee
    b. mbemba
    c. Carroll

    1. Eric Banternaaa
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Mee

  7. _Jane
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Kane 18 shots inside the box ( facing good defensive teams)
    Lukaku 11

    He is more essential than Luk just unlucky the last few games

  8. TheTinman
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    God what a nasty little scrote Alli is. Then the cheek to try and cover it up... desperate

    1. Holmes
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Barkley-like attitude getting into his head I guess

      1. TheTinman
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        Think Alli's disciplinary record is probably slightly worse. Ross is just thick.

      2. Matamatics
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        Probably going to be ruled out of the first matches of the World Cup now...

  9. Blue&White85
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Play Dann or Carroll this weekend? Although Palace have been awful I could see a 0-0 this weekend so I'm leaning towards Dann.

    1. Matamatics
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Would be tempted to give Dann another chance too. If they cannot get a clean sheet against Burnley they don't stand a chance and Sakho should give them that solidity they have missed past few weeks

      1. Blue&White85
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        Yeah, definitely his last game I think.

  10. French Gooner
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Currently own a midfield of : Alli - Pogba- JWP - Mooy - TC

    JWP > to whom? got 6.9m to spend

    1. D-Burls
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Brady?

    2. Holmes
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Shaqiri or Brady

      1. Patch
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        Is Shaqiri or Capoue a better choice...stoke will get hammered right...but then not sure how like Capoue will be playing for GW4

  11. D-Burls
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    A) Eriksen/Alli, Abraham and 4.5 defender
    B) 7m midfielder, chicharito and Bavies

    Basically, spread the money or not...

    1. Matamatics
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      It's tough to say without seeing the rest of the team but A seems more appealing right now

    2. dimitros
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      A

  12. FC nelo
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Hi guys, which duo would you rather have:

    A) Hazard / Dunk
    B) Silva / Alonso

    Have no other City or Chelsea players, thanks.

    1. Taking the Mkhitaryan
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      B

    2. dimitros
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      B.

      I would wait until Hazard is nailed on and then get him.

  13. THFC4LIFE
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Currently on a WC and have Lukaku but planning to swap for Kane gw5.... so should I get the best captain option this week in Lacazette?

    1. Top 210 Club
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Will he even start?

      1. Foozeball
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        After the backlash from the Liverpool game, surely Wenger wouldn't dare bench Lacazette again?

        1. Respect My Authoritah
          • 12 Years
          8 years, 6 months ago

          Wenger doesn't care

    2. Top 210 Club
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Best captain Kane or kaku imo

  14. The real slim shady
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Is Rose the only threat to Davies starting?

    1. Holmes
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Yep

    2. Top 210 Club
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Ye not for a few weeks

    3. Foozeball
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Yes, unless Poch decides to use Son at LWB again 😮

  15. Trovsmash
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    A. Cedric, Jones & Dawson

    B. Alonso, Mee & Lowe

    1. FC nelo
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      I would probably go for B. Will I am currently contemplating whether to bring Alonso or Hazard in since I think we are going to need Chelsea players, and maybe Alonso is the best pick.

    2. Holmes
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      B with Naughton over Mee? Or Mee rotates well with Lowe?

  16. FPL Virgin
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Scoutcast day! 😀

    #AveIt

    1. bojack
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Play Scoutcast for me.

      1. FPL Virgin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        Isn't that a Clint Eastwood film?

        1. bojack
          • 9 Years
          8 years, 6 months ago

          😉

  17. Foozeball
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Which world cup qualifying games are you most interested in/looking forward to today? 🙂

    1. Francescoli
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Australia vs Thailand

  18. WE ARE RANGERS
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    How is this looking guys?

    Heaton
    Cedric Hegazi Mee Bertrand
    Willian Mikhi Salah
    Firmino Lukaku Kane

    Elliot A. Arnold Mooy Carroll

    1. George James
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Nice mate. Are you concerned about Willian starting?

      Thoughts on my team below would be appreciated

      1. WE ARE RANGERS
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        I am sure Conte will find a place in the team for Willian, but yes long term I am looking elsewhere

  19. George James
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Any moves here guys or save FT? bit worried about Stephens and Willian starting.

    DDG
    Dawson Mee Stephens
    Willian Tadic Eriksen Ritchie
    Kane Lukaku Firminio

    Elliott Carroll Ake Long

    1. WE ARE RANGERS
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Stephens could be a risk, a sideways move to Cedric if you could spare a transfer, think your midfield is missing a Liverpool or Man U mid.

    2. Concrete
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      For one week just see what happens with Stephens

      I'd save or remove Tadic/Willian if you can

    3. Lanley Staurel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      I can see Saints introducing VVD away from St Marys so risk is slightly reduced for this GW.

  20. C0YS
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Thoughts on Wildcard team?

    DDG l Elliot
    Alonso l Jones l Cedric l Naughton l Maguire
    Alli l Eriksen l Mkhitaryan l Salah
    Firmino l Morata

    I'm pretty happy with my attacking players, but the defense doesn't seem proper airtight. The plan is to have double ManU defensive coverage, but generally big-team goalkeepers isn't the way to go in FPL. I had Blind, but supposedly he's going to be heavily rotated. Also have some doubts over Maguire...thoughts?

    A) DDG and Maguire
    B) Schmeichel and Blind
    C) Some other GK/DEF combination

    1. George James
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Brave.

      A

      1. C0YS
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        Thanks!

    2. C0YS
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Oh, and I'm playing 4-4-2 with a backup defender.

    3. FC nelo
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      I think Kane is essential really. In my opinion he will be the top scorer this year as well. Can see why Lukaku is not selected, but I don't think Firmino will continue scoring as well has he have. (I have Firmino in my team though since he has been there since day 1)

      1. FC nelo
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        Must say it does look really strong otherwise! Might copy some of it 😉

      2. C0YS
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        Fair enough. But can't complain for 8.5M. Kane may very well be top scorer in the end. But in the big picture, he'll maybe get 50% of Spurs goals (at best), with the others mostly going to Alli and Eriksen, who'll also incidentally get ~70% of the assists between them. Decent trade off - only downside is Kane's captain potential.

    4. Concrete
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Too much in gk and def for me and 442 isn't a formation I'd use, but it does look decent tbf

      1. C0YS
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        Thanks. Yeah, I generally wouldn't either. But for the same price, what budget midfielder will get you as many points as a decent defender? Mooy/Richarlison/Ritchie are the only real options out there, and I don't think they'll get that many points.

  21. WE ARE RANGERS
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    What was the Delli Alli "gesture"

    My tuppence is I do not think Walker and Delli get on very well so whatever it was it probably wasn't a joke as mentioned

    1. George James
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      It wasn't directed at walker at all mate.

      1. WE ARE RANGERS
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        What did he do?

    2. Taking the Mkhitaryan
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Red didn't give him a free kick so he middle fingered him as he walked off. Wasn't aimed at walker. I was sitting right behind him

      1. Taking the Mkhitaryan
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        Ref*

  22. N00B
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Ramsey(C) for this week!

    1. bojack
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Do you also like red arrows?

    2. FPL Virgin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Could work.

    3. Taking the Mkhitaryan
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Deleted team for next week

  23. Tinmen
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Folks, how is Hazard progressing?

    Is he expected to start this weekend?

    1. Concrete
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Started and scored for Belgium I think (unless it was his brother)
      Not sure about weekend. He's a wait and see for me anyway at this point

      1. FC nelo
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        Started first game and come on the last 15 (I think) in the game. He didn't start against Greece because he said he would be kicked too much and didn't want to risk anything. So he is probably almost 100%.

  24. D-Burls
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    A) Eriksen
    B) Mane

    Have Kane and Salah already...

    1. Concrete
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Mane more explosive
      Eriksen consistent

      I'd go Erik

    2. MTPockets
        8 years, 6 months ago

        a

    3. Concrete
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Foster Elliot
      Stephens Kola Lowe Suttner Francis
      Alli Salah Mkhi Ritchie Carrol
      Lukaku Jesus Chic

      1.0m itb - Suttner looks like price dropping

      A - Suttner to Cedric/Jones (restricts Lukaku to Kane)
      B - Suttner to Naughton
      C - Jesus to Morata/Firmino

      1. Holmes
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        Suttner has good fixtures and performing well, drop Francis instead

      2. MTPockets
          8 years, 6 months ago

          Might be better looking at Stephens/Francis.

      3. FPL Virgin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        lol @ the team value of gameweek 3 wildcarders?

        1. Holmes
          • 12 Years
          8 years, 6 months ago

          Not really? Pretty much same as non-wildcarders...

        2. Dreams
          • 9 Years
          8 years, 6 months ago

          Lol@people who lol at others.

          1. bojack
            • 9 Years
            8 years, 6 months ago

            ^

        3. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 16 Years
          8 years, 6 months ago

          GW4?

        4. Foozeball
          • 9 Years
          8 years, 6 months ago

          Someone is really feeling up for some schadenfreude 😮

      4. Partick Bateman
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        Pick 2. Each have okay short term fixtures.

        A.Brady
        B. Brunt
        C. Mooy
        D. Davis

        1. Concrete
          • 11 Years
          8 years, 6 months ago

          A and C

        2. Eric Banternaaa
          • 12 Years
          8 years, 6 months ago

          A C

      5. Eric Banternaaa
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        Danilo > Davies or Save FT as would only bench him this week?

        Foster | Elliot
        Cedric | Ake | Mee | Danilo | Long
        Alli | Mkhi | Mane | Pogba | Carroll
        Lukaku | Firminio | Gabiadinni

        1. FC nelo
          • 9 Years
          8 years, 6 months ago

          Then save

        2. Concrete
          • 11 Years
          8 years, 6 months ago

          Save it

        3. Partick Bateman
          • 9 Years
          8 years, 6 months ago

          Could save and get an extra bit of info on how Spurs manage that area with CL on the horizon.

      6. Nigawan
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        Alonso or no alonso?!

        a) alonso, rosenior, david silva,
        b) cedric, zanka, erikson,

        foster
        ***** , jones, naughton,
        miki, salah, ****, tcarrol
        kane, lukaku, firmino

        bench: elliot, ****, cholobah, mbemba

        1. Francescoli
          • 11 Years
          8 years, 6 months ago

          A

          1. Nigawan
            • 9 Years
            8 years, 6 months ago

            i got mbemba, rosenior, tcarrol and cholobah ? too risky if either one of my first 11 doesnt play? HAHAH.

        2. MTPockets
            8 years, 6 months ago

            B. lei, ARS, sto, MCI - don't see the urgency unless you expect goals.

            1. Nigawan
              • 9 Years
              8 years, 6 months ago

              im worried i cant get him back later ( do alot of transfer) , since im on wc now is better if i decide if i want him.

              1. MTPockets
                  8 years, 6 months ago

                  Fair enough, although I wouldn't go for Mbemba + Rosenior.

          • GMBC
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 10 Years
            8 years, 6 months ago

            A) Phil Jones + RLC (bench)
            B) Joselu + 4.5 defender (bench)

            Which makes more sense? I have 9.6 and need a MID and a DEF, with one playing and the other benched in a 433/442.

            1. MTPockets
                8 years, 6 months ago

                RLC still an injury risk atm.