Transfers

Market Forces – Gameweek 3

As we move into the first international break of 2017/18, you might think that Fantasy Football managers will take advantage to think and reflect. But many have been quick to hit the market following another turbulent weekend in Fantasy Premier League.

The folly of making early moves was exposed on Sunday afternoon, with Mo Salah – subject to more than 180,000 sales last week – coming back to bite that rushed to bring in Paul Pogba, as we reported in our previous article.

The key message this week is choices, choices: there are many expensive key assets failing to perform, with a plethora of options available to managers.

Continuing our series of weekly articles for Fantasy Football Scout, we at whogottheassist.com are reviewing and commenting on trends and behaviours in the market, looking at common themes and giving our view on the viability of the transfers taking place.

Here are the top targets earning the attention of FPL managers as they react to Gameweek 3:

Roberto Firmino and Alvaro Morata

Yet another blank from Harry Kane has persuaded almost 65,000 managers to part company as the August hoodoo took effect once again.

Similarly, a 28-minute sub appearance for Arsenal’s Alexandre Lacazette and no goals for the last round’s flavour of the week, West Ham’s Chicharito, have resulted in flash sales of around 55,000 apiece.

Sergio Aguero has also shed plenty of owners after dropping to the bench for the first time this season on Saturday.

The main beneficiaries of these trends have been Alvaro Morata of Chelsea and Liverpool’s Roberto Firmino, who both served up 12-point hauls in Gameweek 3. They’re almost neck-and-neck for interest, earning 125,000+ and 112,000 new owners each respectively.

Crucially, Firmino has attracted almost 20,000 Kane owners which, in turn, is driving investment in heavy-hitters in midfield with the spare funds.

In the case of Morata, his pair of goals and assists in three matches (the first as a sub) appears to have convinced many that he can match or even surpass Diego Costa’s 20 goals and 11 assists from last season.

Morata’s 10.0 price tag is ideal for those either trading up a cheaper forward or downgrading an expensive option (such as Kane) to free up funds elsewhere while retaining a “premium” striker.

With Firmino, it seems that, despite the output of Anfield team-mates Sadio Mane and Mo Salah, the Brazilian continues to flourish as the established number nine.

Firmino’s 8.5 price tag, of course, allows a fantastic amount of flexibility for Kane sellers (4.0m difference) to either invest the cash elsewhere or to hoard for later use when other assets pop.

Sadio Mane

The red roulette continued as Sadio Mane fired his third goal in three Gameweeks, driving another 77,000 to make the move for the Senegalese.

Mane has been a key beneficiary of the exodus on last season’s top assister Kevin De Bruyne. The Belgian has so far been unable to live up to his initial 10.0 price tag; shed by 200,000+ prior to Saturday’s three-point return at Bournemouth, he’s lost more than 107,000 managers ahead of Gameweek 4.

An issue with Mane, though, continues to be his lack of bonus points.

Despite ranking second in the Bonus Points System for midfielders, he is yet to pick up a single bonus despite scoring in every match. Firmino has dominated here, with extra credit in the Bonus Points System gained from his forward classification a major factor, along with his all-round contribution via key passes, big chances created and even tackles.

Mo Salah

On the bench in Gameweek 2 ahead of a Champions League qualifier, Salah inspired many knee jerk maneuvers as he was sold off to accommodate Pogba, in particular.

However, a goal and assist this weekend delivered instant regret for those who feared further Liverpool rotation.

Back down to 9.0 again, he’s gained over 73,000 new owners overnight, with the likes of Willian and even Christian Eriksen making way.

A trip to Manchester City appears less than inviting following the break, although Liverpool’s pace on the counter and big-match mentality may well see Salah and Jurgen Klopp’s attack prosper once more.

Henrikh Mkhitaryan

The Armenian assist machine supplied yet another for Marcus Rashford against Leicester City for his fifth of the season; further Fantasy investment has followed.

Mkhitaryan has claimed a further 78,000 owners on top of the almost 550,000 he has accrued since a pair of assists in Gameweek 1. Inevitably, a good slice of the recent interest has followed De Bruyne’s blank – over 17,000 have made that swap.

However, an ownership of almost 20% still makes him a relative differential compared to team-mate Pogba, who is now part of 35% of squads and rising. The Frenchman has collected another 56,000, with 10,000 of those heading from De Bruyne.

The two United midfielders are now joint top in the FPL standings, creating a scenario similar to the Dele Alli vs Eriksen debate that ran throughout last season.

With Pogba the goalscorer versus Mkhitaryan the creator – the question of whether to choose one or both is set to rumble on for the foreseeable future.

Together with the availability of Firmino and Morata as options up top, this could also be a factor in driving owners away from Romelu Lukaku.

The striker’s ownership is edging towards a decline for the first time this season – over 25,000 have sold the Belgian, creating a Net Transfers In (NTI) of just over 4000 currently.

With United’s defence keeping three successive clean sheets and with Mkhitaryan and Pogba far cheaper in midfield, the option to sell on Lukaku could yet have some merit, provided the likes of Morata and Firmino can maintain their output.

The derailed bandwagons

Ahmed Hegazi has brought in a jaw dropping 850,000 new owners since Gameweek 1, but that will surely slow now that West Brom have conceded for the first time.

The fact that the goal was a result of the defender’s error might further staunch the flow of buyers, though 65,000 have swooped so far, ensuring that he is still FPL’s most popular defensive target.

It’s now possibly a case of existing owners holding (sitting pretty with a 0.1 resale profit if purchased at 4.5 or 4.6) but prospective buyers considering their options, with the likes of Huddersfield’s Zanka (37,000 new owners) and 4.0 Newcastle United asset Chancel Mbemba (nearly 50,000 new owners) also garnering interest.

Stoke City’s Jese was another to suffer from The Hawthorns showing. He endured just 61 minutes of the tawdry 1-1 draw and failed to make any real impression.

The Spaniard – whose price was frozen for a week as a new entrant to the game – has seen his bandwagon derailed dramatically as his 330,000+ new owners were left disappointed by the blank following his promising debut in Gameweek 2.

Jese has still gained 31,000+ new owners ahead of Gameweek 4, although another 19,000 have already moved him out following the Baggies showing.

Meanwhile, owners of West Ham’s Chicharito have been quick to reassess after his single-point showing at Newcastle.

The Mexican is second only to Kane for sales among forwards, with 55,000 showing him the door – that’s in stark contrast to last week, when a brace attracted almost 475,000 to snap him up.

After three away matches, a return to the London Stadium could help West Ham turn their season around. Many will be happy to hold Chicharito – at least for Gameweek 4’s matchup with Huddersfield – in the hope that the season kicks off for the struggling Hammers.

The Wildcard Factors

Those considering pulling the Wildcard over the break should obviously think very carefully before committing.

The chip can be played all the way up until Gameweek 21, so while using it early can offer an obvious immediate boost, it will reveal your hand to rivals who have it retained for later use.

The extent of your surgery is crucial, and it’s important to weigh up the chip next to the flexibility offered by transfer hits.

It’s also vital to consider that there will be other periods – Gameweek 6 for example – when the fixtures swing to introduce players from sides that are currently unfashionable.

We’ve also yet to see how the likes of Eden Hazard, Alexis Sanchez and Philippe Coutinho will influence our midfield selections. While we may get clarity on that trio’s future and return dates over the break, we will not have the opportunity to weigh up their form on the pitch.

That said, a key strategy of making the Wildcard active over the international break is to build squad value by transferring in rising assets and selling those in decline. This means closely monitoring the market.

Remember, you need a rise of 0.2 overall to gain 0.1 sale value to your side, but if you sell a player who has risen just 0.1 and want him back, you’ll have to pay the extra despite you initially owning him at a cheaper price.

The current situation certainly appears suited to such a strategy, with Kane destined to fall by 0.2 at least during this period.

Meanwhile, Firmino and his Liverpool team-mates could experience a rise of 0.2. With Pogba and Mkhitaryan continuing to climb and Chelsea’s Morata also in the ascent, there are clear options to explore that will improve your overall squad value and, hopefully points potential.

There’s also the added advantage of being able to react to the Premier League transfer window that closes on Thursday.

While we won’t have the time to see how any deadline day moves influence teamsheets, this may still give some advantage if – for example – a new budget option becomes available as a result of a loan move. Having the Wildcard active to react quickly to these developments could prove handy.

However, we have seen the price rise and falls slow markedly this season and with transfer activity set to lull over the next few days, the changes in market value may not be as volatile as anticipated.

Final Thoughts

It’s a tough old world out there in the market, with the potential for early moves to backfire spectacularly.

Although it can be tempting to try and catch the price changes, it could be that remaining strong in the face of mass sales and trusting your key men to deliver could pay off – at least until we have more Gameweek data to consider.

More than eight million transfers were made ahead of Saturday’s deadline, highlighting the extent of the activity, and how tricky it can be to make careful, informed decisions amid such noise.

Kane’s failings, along with De Bruyne’s struggles and the surge from Firmino and Morata, have sparked a lot of movement. With funds liberated from those expensive assets, the options are plentiful, but we should always remember that the data at our disposal to drive our decisions is still very limited.

This is a new series of articles written by Nick (Matamatics) and Tom (Individual), founders of ‘Who Got The Assist’ (www.whogottheassist.com, @WGTA_FPL on Twitter) – a website and podcast devoted to FPL.

Nick and Tom WGTA We're Individual and Matamatics on FFS, and started our own site to add our voice to the FPL community and for FFS in particular.

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  1. Alan_T
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Ox leaving is good news for Kola and Bellerin, right?

    1. Markus
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Yep, great news

    2. Qaiss
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Great news. He's crap.

    3. thepeen555
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Good news for all but Chelsea

      1. stachman
        • 11 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Wouldn't be surprised if he'd flourish under Conte... Remember Victor Modes?

    4. FDMS All Starz
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Might play 4 at the back arsenal

  2. THFC4LIFE
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Apparently Sanchez handed in a transfer request.... not confirmed and source is poor

    1. Qaiss
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      If the source is poor, no point listening. People want followers and attention.

    2. Wild Rover
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Lol, why bother then?

      1. THFC4LIFE
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Fair point lol source is footy accumulators

        1. Wild Rover
          • 13 Years
          6 years, 8 months ago

          Doesn't mean it's not true though 😉

    3. Nascimento
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      reminds me of the time I exclusively revealed Scholes had signed for Norwich.

      1. Football Heaven
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        If only (Norwich fan)

  3. Demel
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Thoughts on..

    Chicarito & Ramsey > Firmino & Brady?

    1. J ⚒ Gimme ur Mané
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Chica is one of the best captain options this gameweek....

      I'd definitely hold.

    2. One Man
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Hold for Chic this gamesweek.

    1. FDMS All Starz
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Good now hopefully he injures himself when playing for england

  4. KDB is a Defensive Midfielder
    Dokdok666
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    KDB on his new role as a DM:
    "I haven't scored yet, but I'm playing as a defending midfielder. My role changed, but my games are good. I know what I bring to the team and what my role is. No one knows what I had to do. People think I play as an attacking midfielder, that's wrong. They see Kevin De Bruyne, attacking midfielder, so he has to score and give assists. But they don't look beyond that."

    https://www.elevensports.be/video/kevin-de-bruyne-op-ohl

    1. Pigeon
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      No reason in sticking with him now.

      1. Dokdok666
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        A 10m player you will never captain was never a good choice

        1. JJO
          • 11 Years
          6 years, 8 months ago

          Well I captained him first 2 gws before I transfered him out
          Dont see how that made him better choice

        2. Seb Wassell
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          6 years, 8 months ago

          200 points last season. So i strongly disagree with you.

    2. Greenbackbøøg…
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      And just like that, De Bruyne's fantasy prospects were pronounced dead

      1. Dokdok666
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        They were dead when he was revealed to be 10m

        1. SC not pearls before swine
          • 13 Years
          6 years, 8 months ago

          199 points last year and he hit the woodwork more than anybody else in the league last year. Obviously it hasn't worked out so far, but there was an argument for him.

          1. Dokdok666
            • 9 Years
            6 years, 8 months ago

            200 points for 10m is bad value, end of story. And you will NEVER captain him as long as Kun/Jesus is in City

            1. SC not pearls before swine
              • 13 Years
              6 years, 8 months ago

              If you think he was unlucky last year (which I think he was), you could make the case he could get 10 goals and 20 assists, which would put him a bit ahead of Eriksen's production last year. I do think he's .5 overpriced, but not terribly so. There was some upside there.

              I would captain him if City had a good fixture and he'd looked dangerous. I captained Eriksen a couple times last year. A single goal for a guy who completes as many passes as KDB can be worth 8 points.

              1. Dokdok666
                • 9 Years
                6 years, 8 months ago

                We have been prophezicing about his returns for several seasons now. As I see it, he will never be a good FPL prospect at that price

            2. Seb Wassell
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 11 Years
              6 years, 8 months ago

              You're deluded.

              1. Dokdok666
                • 9 Years
                6 years, 8 months ago

                You're rude

    3. diesel001
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      KDB out for FPL.

      Actually thought he played very well against Bournemouth. Pep needs to stop playing Jesus and Aguero together though IMO and pick one of them and play 4-2-3-1.

      1. Dokdok666
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        He is a top player irl, but not in terms of fantasy

      2. THFC4LIFE
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Couldn't agree more KDB is a no10 and probably the best in the league

        1. Dokdok666
          • 9 Years
          6 years, 8 months ago

          Indeed, a waste of an attacking talent

      3. Do I Not Like Orange
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        He did that on Saturday though, and they still huffed & puffed to beat Bournemouth at the death.

        1. Dokdok666
          • 9 Years
          6 years, 8 months ago

          They still looked better, though

    4. THFC4LIFE
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      He's wasted playing deep

      1. Dokdok666
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Yup.
        Though he is good at carrying the ball forwards

    5. Team Cruel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Thankfully only took me 90 minutes of the season to realise this. Can't believe people kept him for GW3 and were using Walker's red card as an excuse.

      1. Dokdok666
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        The moment I saw him at 10m he was dead to me. You will never captain him and thus he just isn't good value at that price

        1. Team Cruel
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 8 months ago

          To be fair he looked unbelievable in pre season. Think many, myself included, got him expecting City to start like they did last year. KDB was well above 40 points by GW5.

          1. Dokdok666
            • 9 Years
            6 years, 8 months ago

            I try and get as much value for my money as possible. KDB doesn't fit that bill

            1. Dokdok666
              • 9 Years
              6 years, 8 months ago

              When building initially

        2. Lanley Staurel
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          6 years, 8 months ago

          Would ypu ever captain Mane?

          1. Dokdok666
            • 9 Years
            6 years, 8 months ago

            No and that is why I don't have him

    6. Bubz
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Pep is absolutely ruining him

      1. Dokdok666
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        He is...I am starting to think Pep has actually lost the plot...

      2. Homer21
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Him and aguero!

        1. Dokdok666
          • 9 Years
          6 years, 8 months ago

          I don't think that's the case with Kun, he just doesn't fit Peps style of play.

    7. The Mandalorian
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      KDB just died as a fantasy prospect RIP

      1. Dokdok666
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Rip in pepperonis indeed

    8. Pigeon
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      City won't win the league with KDB at DM and that's a fact, Pep has truly lost it

      1. Dokdok666
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Insane that, of all players, KDB is playing as a DM. Madness

      2. Ramboros
        • 12 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Pep never plays without Touré or Fernandinho in the side. They are the defensive midfielders. KdB appeared as a defensive midfielder against Everton because they had to break down a defensive side with a man down.

        Next you are going to tell me that Xavi, Iniesta, Fabregas and Thiago are defensive midfielders as well.

        1. Nabs Kebabs
          • 12 Years
          6 years, 8 months ago

          Yep, looks like people don't understand what a deep lying playmaker is...

    9. JÆKS ⭐
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      In all fairness, he did only say that he was a defensive midfielder in the 2nd half of the 2nd game and now in the game against Bournemouth. So he wasn't playing as a defensive midfielder in the first game and the first half of the 2nd game.

    10. Ramboros
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Have people even been watching KdB play the last two seasons?

      KdB plays the exact same role as last season. With 3 atb he had less defensive responsibility, but the red card against Everton forced him to play very deep.

      1. Desperately Seeking Dusan
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        yeah, I keep seeing Jonty saying how deep he's now playing but I looked at the heatmaps this one so far vs last season and they really don't look so different in terms of position. I think some players like Aguero not taking chances might be more the cause of KDB's disappointing start.

    11. Concrete
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Gundogen

    12. Dušan Citizen
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Perhaps he will be played as AM when Gundo is fit to start

    13. Feyzi
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      End of story and glad I ditched him on Saturday

    14. Biancazzurri
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      I love the honesty, but he's not a defensive mid (like Kante or Matic are). He's an organzing central midfielder that pulls the strings, and you can expect some moderate returns; an odd assist, a successful corner. Think Fabregas, Mooy, Wijnaldum.

      But no, he's not an advanced attacking mid and he's certainly not worth 10 m. Although I can see the consistency and him getting an assist every GW.

    15. Desperately Seeking Dusan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Blimey, he said that? Think is, I look at the heat maps in the members area comparing KDB this season (admittedly only 3 games) vs 2016 and he doesn't look that deep this season vs last... Or maybe I'm just using it wrong.

  5. diesel001
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    My current squad. Can actually see a lot of them not playing GW4 or having very reduced minutes due to internationals:

    Heaton - Foster
    Clark - Bailly - Yoshida - Davies - Kolasinac
    Willian - Eriksen - Alli - Mkhi - Carroll
    Firmino - Lukaku - McBurnie

    Ones of concern are:

    - Bailly: Coming back from Ivory Cost on 6 September
    - Yoshida: Coming back from Saudi Arabia on 6 September
    - Willian: Coming back from Columbia on 6 September
    - Firmino: Coming back from Columbia on 6 September

  6. Weeb Kakashi
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Mane Salah Mkhi Tadic Carroll
    Kane Jesus Quaner

    0.1 TB 1FT
    defence is perfectly fine

    any moves in Attack needed or Save?

  7. goriuanx
    • 13 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    @GFFN Breaking | AS Monaco have categorically decided not to sell Thomas Lemar, according to RMC/SFR Sport.

    1. internal error
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Ahhhh shhhhhhit

      1. goriuanx
        • 13 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Let's see. A lot of not for sale players are for sale at the right price, including our Coutinho

        1. internal error
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          6 years, 8 months ago

          That balde news got my hopes up

    2. Je suis le chat
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      No justice in this World.

  8. Wild Rover
    • 13 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Don't be scared of an early wildcard, many are far to too dismissive and snobby about it. Some of the best players always wc early, a recent overall winner played his in gw2 the year he won. If it feels right do it, there are many ways to play this game 😉

    1. diesel001
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Agree. You have to play your current situation and not the one others are in or you want to be in.

    2. FPL Virgin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      I respectfully disagree. This is bad advice in my opinion. We know next to nothing about who the good players will be in the first half of the season. Be patient and keep your Wildcard in your back pocket for now.

      1. Wild Rover
        • 13 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Isn't this your first season? Which bit of 'Some of the best players always wc early' didn't you get?

        1. Fantasy Gold
          • 9 Years
          6 years, 8 months ago

          You tell him, WR 😆

          1. FPL Virgin
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 7 Years
            6 years, 8 months ago

            Tell me what?

            It seemed like a non-point to me.

            1. Fantasy Gold
              • 9 Years
              6 years, 8 months ago

              Basically, his point was that you're a novice and from experience, a lot of veteran players WC going into GW4.

              Not that hard to understand, is it?

              1. FPL Virgin
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 7 Years
                6 years, 8 months ago

                I may not have the experience of some, but my natural talent for FPL more than compensates.

                1. Fantasy Gold
                  • 9 Years
                  6 years, 8 months ago

                  Is that you, Brendan Rodgers?

                  😆

                2. fedolefan
                  • 9 Years
                  6 years, 8 months ago

                  My pick to win FPL this year.

                  1. FPL Virgin
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 7 Years
                    6 years, 8 months ago

                    🙂

            2. Wild Rover
              • 13 Years
              6 years, 8 months ago

              Well you are dissing as bad advice the tactic that many of the best FPL players ever always use, based on no experience

              1. Fantasy Gold
                • 9 Years
                6 years, 8 months ago

                Subtle trolling from Virgin, as per.

                Pay no attention WR

              2. FPL Virgin
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 7 Years
                6 years, 8 months ago

                Mark advocated a November Wildcard. Is he wrong, too?

                We know so little at this stage. It's pot luck whether the players you bring in on a Wildcard now will last the duration.

                1. Fantasy Gold
                  • 9 Years
                  6 years, 8 months ago

                  Mark's opinion holds a little more weight than yours.

                  You are deliberately trying to get people's backs up by totally dismissing the idea of a GW3 WC, which has been a successful tactic used throughout the years by a lot of successful players.

                  If you can't see the difference then I can't help you 🙂

                2. Monkey Hanger
                  • 10 Years
                  6 years, 8 months ago

                  You don't get to be a mod by licking ass, you know.

              3. Pigeon
                • 7 Years
                6 years, 8 months ago

                Wait this is his first season? The way he goes around on this site is like he's some kind of pro wth 😆

        2. The Mandalorian
          • 11 Years
          6 years, 8 months ago

          "Some of the best players always wc early"

          Name these players or bore off

          1. Fantasy Gold
            • 9 Years
            6 years, 8 months ago

            That might be quite a long list to compile, Notorious.

            50-0 😉

      2. polis
        • 12 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Moreover, there are two wildcards and, in effect, 3 if you count one week.

      3. thepeen555
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Bad advice to u maybe as u maybe a different kettle of fish - however anyone should play the game how they want to.

        By all means seek advice but if u want to WC then just do it. It's a game imo I won't ever win the whole thing and don't plan too. I just want to kick arse in my league

    3. Homer21
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Well said!

    4. KingNidge
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      We had a wc of sorts only 3 gws ago when picking initial squads. Theres a strong possibilty in another 3 wildcarders regret jumping early. There will be extreme situations when those have totally screwed up selections and team structure which leaves them no choice but a saved transfer and a mini wc for a -4 or even 4 transfers for a -8 can really turn a squad around in a lot of cases imo.

      1. Wild Rover
        • 13 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        You do realise that if you play your wc now you are allowed a hit or two later? 😉

        1. KingNidge
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 8 months ago

          Id rather take a hit or two early doors make some money etc and have the wc in my back pocket rather than the other way around tbh

          1. Wild Rover
            • 13 Years
            6 years, 8 months ago

            Not sure I see the difference tbh, except you are more likely to make money doing it early, but as I said in op, there is more than one way of playing this game 🙂

            1. KingNidge
              • 8 Years
              6 years, 8 months ago

              True mate i just think in the majority of cases an early wc comes hand in hand with panic. While it can be beneficial i just think we are still in the dark about too much now to be using it rather than a mini wc.. unless things are critical

              1. Wild Rover
                • 13 Years
                6 years, 8 months ago

                Panic? More boredom in my case 😉

                1. KingNidge
                  • 8 Years
                  6 years, 8 months ago

                  Alcohol plays a part too in some cases lol

    5. Je suis le chat
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Well said WR. Its all about the present value of points, and getting the utility out of s wildcard early. I'm going fine after a gw2 WC, though I 'd have similar points if I hadn't wildcarded. Just love unleashing the thing early.

    6. The Mandalorian
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Playing the WC works when you catch players/teams that go on a run but we don't have enough established data just like this time last season.

    7. noquarternt
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Don't follow this advice guys, he's trying to lead you into a trap so he can get OR1! D:

    8. Man Getting Hit By Football
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Nice post. Every season I have wildcarded on or before this point, I am trying to make an effort to get a bit further along before I pull the WC trigger as I feel this time my team isn't a total wreck.

      Last year I took Lukaku out before his gameweek four hattrick. Every team is different.

      1. The Mandalorian
        • 11 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Nice post? You're easily pleased, it's two lines of gibberish.

        1. Wild Rover
          • 13 Years
          6 years, 8 months ago

          Counting is not your strong subject I guess 😉

          1. Fantasy Gold
            • 9 Years
            6 years, 8 months ago

            Tbf he is probably still concussed

          2. Wild Rover
            • 13 Years
            6 years, 8 months ago

            But better than you debating or reasoning skills so I'll come down to your level.

            GFY

            1. The Mandalorian
              • 11 Years
              6 years, 8 months ago

              "debating or reasoning skills" didn't see much of those in your post now back to gibberish.

  9. mcgrejam
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Thinking of WC

    Forster
    Jones,Yoshida,Hegazi,Alonso
    Mkhitarayan,Salah,Eriksen
    Firmino,Morata,Lukaku

    Subs - Elliott,RLC,Mbemba,Collback

    Forget the subs, starting team okay?

    1. Gríma Wormtongue
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Good but need an easy way to bring Kane back in if he starts firing

      1. Qaiss
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Whos to say Morata and Lukaku wont start firing? 😉

        1. Gríma Wormtongue
          • 9 Years
          6 years, 8 months ago

          "if"

          1. polis
            • 12 Years
            6 years, 8 months ago

            Downgrade premium mid, upgrade striker. It isn't that hard. I'm really not sure why everyone makes a massive deal out of this.

            It's a -4, which is what plenty of people have done already.

            1. thepeen555
              • 7 Years
              6 years, 8 months ago

              Yep so many do. Bring Kane in gw5. He was
              Gold at gw3 and played pants then too. He won't be the only one scoring points this whole season

    2. J ⚒ Gimme ur Mané
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      You want to WC to that team?

      Or is that your current team?

      1. mcgrejam
        • 10 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        That will be my WC team

        I'm doing it...gonna do it before prices go up and can't afford it!

        1. thepeen555
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 8 months ago

          Yeah activate it then u change ur mind it's easy to change out again. But if u don't want to change it then you have them players still but cheaper

  10. Football Heaven
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    A. Hegazi Kane
    B. Morata Alonso

    It seems easy but it would be hard to get Kane in at all this season if done

    1. Ha.
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      You'll have to make a downgrade in midfield, then.

    1. internal error
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Worth watching all the way through haha

    2. Licky
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      lol

  11. Ode
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Which one should I start GW4, Atsu or Carroll?

    1. Henryyy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Atsu IMO

  12. PepSala
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Ramsey/Willian to Mane/Atsu for -4 or hold?

    1. Qaiss
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Wait till after the break. Injuries etc.

  13. JAC THE CAT
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Tadic and Redmond good picks with the Southampton fixtures still to come?

    1. Cok3y5murf
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Nope

    2. Will Grigg's on Fire
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      With Southampton's lack of creativity and Pellegrino's defensive game, do you still think they are good choices?

    3. FPL Virgin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Redmond? Are you being serious?

  14. Will Grigg's on Fire
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Need an advice:

    Forster Elliot
    Dawson Kompany Valencia Yoshida Mee
    Ramsey Willian Alli Eriksen Carrol
    Lukaku Firminio Perez

    Ramsey and Willian have to be sold according to me. Ben Mee also falling in price and 2 FT.

    So far I got to Salah, Ritchie and Fernandez (really great schedule and nicely rotate home fixtures with Newcastle)?

    1. Gríma Wormtongue
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      I wouldn't get Ritchie

  15. HARLEY
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    KdB -> Silva

    Thought?

    1. Epic Fail
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      I wouldn't choose Silva but he's a better choice than KDB.

    2. Optic1
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Was at the game the other day, everything was going through Silva. KDB on the other had was almost a defender. Nice way to bank some money imo mate.

    3. J ⚒ Gimme ur Mané
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      What about KDB to mane/Eriksen/salah/pogba/Mkhi ??

    4. noquarternt
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Do you already have Pogba Mhki Mane Salah Alli Eriksen?

  16. Optic1
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Between A and B....

    Foster
    Yoshida Kompany Jones
    KDB Salah Pogba Fraser
    Kane Lukaku Mounie

    Elliot Carroll Suttner Hunem

    A) KDB > Eriksen only (free)

    B) Kane > Morata
    Mounie > Firmino
    KDB > Eriksen (for a -8)

    Im reluctant to ditch Kane tbh, his fixtures look nice coming up. Opinions please?

  17. Jim Moriarty
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Game week 4 who are you captaining? And who would you captain if you had the choice of any played ?

    1. Will Grigg's on Fire
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Lukaku is a great choice according to me

    2. Je suis le chat
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Dunno, though if Arsene had any sense I'd have Giroud and captain him vs the small and poorish Boy defence.

    3. Qaiss
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Lacazette. I think.

    4. diesel001
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Lukaku(c) for me.

      If I had a choice I would possibly punt on Heaton(c)

    5. J ⚒ Gimme ur Mané
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Chicarito.

      At home vs Huddersfield, Monday night football.

  18. King Sheep
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Kane>Morata for this gameweek only, then get Kane back in again following week ....

    Is it worth it?

    How much will I make in transfer value?

    1. Epic Fail
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      No
      0.1

      1. J ⚒ Gimme ur Mané
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        You really think 0.1?

        Kane could very easily drop 0.2, maybe 0.3.

        Morata could very easily raise 0.2 (profit of 0.1).

        So there is a potential that it could be worth more around 0.4 unless I'm missing something?

    2. Will Grigg's on Fire
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      If you can afford it not to make other transfers......

    3. noquarternt
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Definitely not.

    4. FDMS All Starz
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Yes I like this, morata will probably rise twice and kane probably drop twice so you will make 0.3 profit, also if kane doesn't look hot and morata continues his form, u r already one step ahead and can safely use the money elsewhere

    5. Je suis le chat
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      I might do the trade myself and get Alli back in future instead.

    6. King Sheep
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      If it's worth 0.2 or above I'd consider it, any more opinions appreciated, thanks.

  19. Dr. Ante Pavlovic
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Can you rate my wildcard moves?

    Ddg > Foster
    Elliot > Gomes
    Trippier > Jones
    Danilo > Fernandez
    Willian > Hazard
    Kane > Firmino
    Quaner > Chicharito

    To get this

    Foster, Gomes

    Jones, Fernandes, Cedric, Mbemba, Hunemeier

    Hazard, Pogba, Eriksen, Salah, Rlc

    Lukaku, Firmino, Chicharito

    What do you think guys? Any advice?

    1. Qaiss
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Swap Gomes for Elliot and then swap Hunemeier for Ward from Burnley or Dunk from Brighton.

      1. Klopptomist Scott Jelly
        • 6 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Logic with Foster/Gomes is that it's then a season long rotation that's pretty favourable

    2. Will Grigg's on Fire
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Firmino will probably not play after international break (travel to Brazil etc.) Why foster in stead of Forster (great schedule)? Hazard will need some time.
      Otherwise your team look great 🙂

  20. fpork
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Got 1 more FT and 1.3£ in the bank, should I do any changes to this team?
    Foster
    Davies - Jones - Yoshida
    Salah - Atsu - Mkhitaryan - Eriksen
    Firmino - Lukaku - Jesus
    Elliot - Carroll - Mbemba - Long

    1. Will Grigg's on Fire
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      I do not think. It is pretty good 🙂

  21. Jet5605
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Hey guys, I'm pretty set on doing KDB > Alli or Eriksen. Which one should I get given that Son is back in the side? Is Alli marginally the better prospect now?

    Was going to get Mhiki but Utd have some tough games while Spurs have some plum ones.

    1. Will Grigg's on Fire
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      It depends....I think rotation Alli/ Mikhtaryan or Eriksen/Pogba is good....one goalscorer...one assistant

    2. Gríma Wormtongue
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Erik

  22. goriuanx
    • 13 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    @GFFN That aside, the Thomas Lemar situation does not yet seem to be totally resolved. More to follow on GFFN.

    1. internal error
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Weird

      1. goriuanx
        • 13 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Long few days ahead lol

        1. internal error
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          6 years, 8 months ago

          Thankfully its only 3 more days

    2. Team Cruel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      "We've basically got no clue but we will cover all possible scenarios just in case"

      1. goriuanx
        • 13 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Probably this

  23. Ronnies
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Thoughts on this WC team ... ?

    foster

    jones - cedric - mee

    eriksen - pogba - salah - mooy

    kane - lukaku - chicharito

    (elliott - carroll - daniels - long)

    Any feedback welcome.
    Tnks

    1. Will Grigg's on Fire
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Mee is falling in price, better Fernandez with great schedule ahead.

  24. The Mighty Whites
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    0.2 ITB on WC, thoughts?

    Foster, Elliot

    Jones, Cedric, Lowton, Lowe, Naughton

    Mane, Eriksen, Pogba, Ritchie, Carroll

    Lukaku, Morata, Firmino

    1. XabiAlonso
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      You might want Kane soon

  25. Alexon00
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Hi guys, when do you think they start to raise prices ???

    1. Licky
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Once a player reaches the transfer threshold they go up, usually in the middle of the night. I think anyway.

  26. Sterling Chap
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Haven't been able to be on the site much over the bank holi. Something about entertaining family, so looking for some idea guys in terms of transfer suggestions...

    2 FT / 2.0 ITB
    Forster
    Daniels Yoshida Danilo
    KDB Mooy Carroll Willian
    Firmino Lukaku Kane
    Subs: Elliot Long Iwobi** Suttner

    I'm thinking KDB & Iwobi > Salah & Pogba. Yay or nay?

  27. Del Monte
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Thoughts on this WC:

    Forster Elliot

    Alonso Davies Jones Holgate Mbemba

    Alli Mane Tadic 6.0 Carroll

    Kane Lukaku Abraham

    1. Drip Doctor
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Triple Spurs? Really?

    2. polis
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Tadic, Abraham, Holgate on a WC. Not sure.

  28. lennie123456789
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Richarlison and Chica > atsu and firmino

    Good move or nah?

    1. Gríma Wormtongue
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      no

    2. Fantasy Gold
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      I'd hold Chica.

      Richarlison might deserve one more week

    3. lennie123456789
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Thanks both