[sbu_large_image] Moving Target
1 August 2012 1984 comments
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Everton finally ended their summer-long chase of Steven Pienaar yesterday by snapping up the South African from Spurs on a four-year contract. The 30-year old returns to Goodison Park for a fee of £4.5m and represents a significant coup for David Moyes, after the midfielder’s dazzling performances on loan at the Merseyside club in the second half of last season:

Despite alleged interest from the likes of Sunderland and QPR, Pienaar revealed his heart was set on a move back to the Toffees after failing to establish himself at White Hart Lane. Speaking to the club’s official website upon completion of the move, he admitted:

I am happy to be here. It took a few weeks to sort out but I am delighted to be back and excited to play for Everton. There was no doubt in my mind that I would be back here. At the end of the season I told the manager how I felt and I am happy now it is all done.

The Statistics

Pienaar’s career began as a 17-year old in his native country with Ajax Cape Town. Over the course of a couple of seasons, he scored six times in 24 appearances before he made his way to Europe to sign for Ajax Amsterdam in the 2001/02 campaign. Although he spent five years at the Dutch giants, winning a couple of league titles along the way, Pienaar only managed more than 20+ league appearances in a couple of seasons and, after returning 15 goals and 20 assists in 94 matches, moved on to Borussia Dortmund.

The South African stayed in the Bundesliga for just one disappointing season, managing a single assist from 25 games before joining Everton on loan for the 2007-08 campaign. David Moyes made the deal a permanent one the following year and Pienaar soon became a key member of the Toffees first-team, with his left flank understanding with Leighton Baines proving crucial to his side’s attacking forays. In total, his first stint at Goodison lasted three-and-a-half years, with the midfielder returning 11 goals and 18 assists in 104 appearances before he signed for Spurs midway through the 2010/11 campaign.

At White Hart Lane, however, his career came to a complete standstill. The emergence of Gareth Bale as a Premier League force of nature meant Pienaar made just 10 appearances over his two half-seasons under Harry Redknapp, with only a couple of assists to show for his time in London. The 2011/12 campaign produced two brief sub appearances before Moyes came to the midfielder’s rescue once again and, back on Merseyside, Pienaar’s contribution was significant – four goals and seven assists in just 14 league appearances summed up his potential and will no doubt help him pick up plenty Fantasy investment in the season ahead.

The Prospects

In terms of game time, there is no doubt Pienaar will be a nailed-on first-team starter down the Everton left. During his time on loan last season, he started every one of the 14 league matches he was available for – the only game he missed was against parent club Spurs, just to the conditions of his temporary arrangement. Moyes is notoriously frugal when it comes to player acquisitions, so it’s safe to say the Toffees boss won’t be spending close to £5m for a bench-warmer.

Analysing the Fantasy Premier League (FPL) stats, Pienaar – despite half a dozen bookings –returned 5.7 points per game in 2011/12 at Everton. Aside from those aforementioned four goals and seven assists, his tally was also boosted by six clean sheet points and 12 bonus points, with his style of play clearly suited to the EA SPORTS Player Performance Index scoring system. At 6.5 in FPL, his mid-price potential is considerable, though Everton’s customary slow start to the season may deter suitors. Pienaar also excelled in the Sky Sports game last term – he was one of only five midfielders to be awarded five or more Man of the Match awards, despite just 14 starts – priced at 6.0, he looks a very strong punt here, too, bearing in mind we only have 30 trades over the season.

While many may feel the Toffees’ first six fixtures are far from enticing, Moyes’ side showed towards the end of last season they are more than a match for any side in the top-flight. With Pienaar wreaking havoc on the flank and Nikica Jelavic racking up the goals with consummate ease, they ended the campaign on a nine-match unbeaten run, putting four past United and notching three times against Newcastle – Moyes’ men welcome both sides to Goodison in Gameweeks 1 and 4 respectively and will be far from intimidated. With a home clash against Southampton and trips to (avl, wba, swa) also on their opening agenda, the Toffees clearly have the potential to pick up the points if they can hit the ground running; while their start to recent seasons suggests that’s easier said than done, ignoring their assets entirely may well be a costly oversight.

Further Reference

Steven Pienaar Wikipedia
Steven Pienaar Statistics

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  1. Dago
    14 years, 2 months ago

    Ok Im done back in London on the 18th August so probably wont get another tinker. Would appreciate your feedback..... Thank you and good luck this season all.

    DeGea Federici

    Cole Hangeland Lescott Cuellar Demel

    Hazard Taarabt Siggy Noble Maloney

    Torres Aguero Pogbrenyak

    2 million in the bank for the Pig.

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    1. alfast1c
      14 years, 2 months ago

      pretty generic team atm, like taarabt punt maybe... 7.5/10

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      1. Dago
        14 years, 2 months ago

        I normally play fairly safe at start. care to share your current team?

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        1. alfast1c
          14 years, 2 months ago

          sure i will 🙂

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          1. Dago
            14 years, 2 months ago

            ? 🙂

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    2. RD84
      14 years, 2 months ago

      I'm not taking a chance on Torres -- going with Rooney straight away and hoping Hazard and Cole generate a decent amount of points. Good team, though.

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      1. Dago
        14 years, 2 months ago

        would probably do the same but Rooney away to Everton makes the Torres punt a bit more appealing.

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        1. Ramseys Rovers
          14 years, 2 months ago

          recent manu everton games make me think rooney isnt a bad wk1 pick

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          1. Dago
            14 years, 2 months ago

            the last one you mean, 4-4?

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    3. Ramseys Rovers
      14 years, 2 months ago

      i like it, very similar to mine
      went tevez and valencia though
      think aguero isn't worth 2.5m more than tevez, others disagree

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      1. Theseus
        14 years, 2 months ago

        i was of the same opinion as the others - wouldnt trade aguero for anything...
        today i found out about the friendly ARG is giving in germany.
        now i am with you - dont know tom.....

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  2. A.T
    14 years, 2 months ago

    A yaya n Gibson or
    B pienaar n michu

     

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    1. rrcmc
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      14 years, 2 months ago

      B for me

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    2. Doosra - ☭BowenOfRice☭
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      14 years, 2 months ago

      Replied before. 🙂

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      1. A.T
        14 years, 2 months ago

        Thanks again mate

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        1. Doosra - ☭BowenOfRice☭
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          14 years, 2 months ago

          I am going to make tea ... 😉

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          1. Theseus
            14 years, 2 months ago

            ice tea? :-p

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    3. Theseus
      14 years, 2 months ago

      B

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  3. Corrigan
    14 years, 2 months ago

    Rafael - is his upside worth putting up with the rotation risk? Those 1 pointer cameos keep coming up as well.

    DDG and Rafael????!

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    1. Parm
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      14 years, 2 months ago

      Just Vidic for me, no doubling up on defences early on.

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    2. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
      14 years, 2 months ago

      Rafael worth a couple of gameweeks gw2-gw5.
      De Gea undecided I will wait on Alex saying the boy De Gea is number one "No question about that chomp, chomp chomp"

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      1. Theseus
        14 years, 2 months ago

        LOL

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  4. Ramseys Rovers
    14 years, 2 months ago

    Collocini Vs. STaylor
    taylor is surely more of a goal threat?

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    1. Theseus
      14 years, 2 months ago

      true

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    2. JELLYFISH
      14 years, 2 months ago

      Defo S Taylor imo. If he is back to full fitness he could have quite an impact this season

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  5. alfast1c
    14 years, 2 months ago

    Bale + Hughes vs Siggy + Hangeland

    Thoughts for better combo ?

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    1. RD84
      14 years, 2 months ago

      Bale + Hughes looks nice.

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      1. Brutus619
        14 years, 2 months ago

        Siggy v Hangeland looks better 😛

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  6. rrcmc
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    14 years, 2 months ago

    Hi All
    has anyone seen any posts etc from the FFS team regarding the official FFS H2H leagues?
    Cheers
    rrcmc

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    1. Billy Gilmore
      14 years, 2 months ago

      I think Mark said they are hoping to work out the members leagues this weekend.

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    2. Parm
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      14 years, 2 months ago

      Rumour has it they've been scrapped.

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      1. rrcmc
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        14 years, 2 months ago

        god forbid

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        1. rrcmc
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          14 years, 2 months ago

          what would i live for....

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    3. A.T
      14 years, 2 months ago

      Don't think they're happening this year

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    4. Doosra - ☭BowenOfRice☭
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      14 years, 2 months ago

      No. They have been scrapped, as I understand it.

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      1. rrcmc
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        14 years, 2 months ago

        your source please?

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        1. Doosra - ☭BowenOfRice☭
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          14 years, 2 months ago

          Andy, last Season, towards the end.

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          1. rrcmc
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            14 years, 2 months ago

            shame, not being one to do well in the overall league, the h2H were a source of interest....

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    5. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
      14 years, 2 months ago

      They are scraped too unwieldy to operate.

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  7. Mr. J
    14 years, 2 months ago

    Why Hazard, not Mata? :/

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    1. Theseus
      14 years, 2 months ago

      Lamps 🙂

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  8. Rollo
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    14 years, 2 months ago

    Am I mad considering Szczesny as a keeper option?? he has been mentioned no where in the keepers articles but at 5.5 for a nailed on Arsenal keeper O think its a viable call.

    I will no doubt get all the Fantasy rookies pointing towards one season wonders Krul & Vorm but the fact is even with a poor Arsenal season they still conceeded 2 less league goals that both Newcastle & Swansea.

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    1. Brian (Not the Messiah)
      14 years, 2 months ago

      I think you should go with Vorm.

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      1. Brian (Not the Messiah)
        14 years, 2 months ago

        no really... I'm starting out with Vorm 😆

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    2. heco87
      14 years, 2 months ago

      No I agree - I think it's a good shout. Keeps a good amount of clean sheets at home and picked up quite a few bonus points last season which was very rare for a GK.

      Surprised not to see him mentioned in the article.

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      1. Brian (Not the Messiah)
        14 years, 2 months ago

        Arsenal get a bad rep for because when there are defensive errors they are comically bad! It does mean that you can pick up Arsenal defensive assets at a good price, not sure of the opening fixtures though....

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        1. heco87
          14 years, 2 months ago

          Agree - 2 out of the first 4 decent, 3 out of the first 6 tough though - make stats do the talking!

          When Sagna is back, he seems to be a better way into the Arsenal defence ... perhaps Koscielny at 5.5m too but I do think Sczez is good value. Would be surprised if I don't have him at some point this season.

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          1. Rollo
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            14 years, 2 months ago

            I was planning to pair him with Jaaskelainen so I think that dove tails not bad

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            1. heco87
              14 years, 2 months ago

              Yeah, that's the combo I noticed too - a couple of hairy ones in there but decent enough up to where I've done my ticker to! (GW20)

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              1. Rollo
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                14 years, 2 months ago

                I like the sound of that!

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      2. Rollo
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        14 years, 2 months ago

        I think so too but am surprised by the lack of attention to him. Also factor in a fit Vermalen to the defence and Arsenal will be much tighter that in previous seasons. Even Koscielny looks to be settling a bit so they could be a more solid unit.

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    3. Le Limpar
      14 years, 2 months ago

      Good point. Personally I won't because at some point in the season I know I'll want 3 outfield from them (Verm, RVP, Walcott did me very well for a patch last season) and I don't want to move a keeper to facilitate that. But I agree, he's priced quite kindly.

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      1. Rollo
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        14 years, 2 months ago

        will you want 3 outfielders if as expected RVP moves though?
        Cause if he stays then I agree with you 3 outfield options (probably those you listed) are a good option

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        1. Le Limpar
          14 years, 2 months ago

          It has a huge effect clearly - but I still think *at some point* I'll want 3, regardless of whether he stays or not. They do have a history of reinventing themselves when big players go; i.e. Henry, Fabregas... If Cazorla, Podolski, Giroud - could all be good value FPL. Chamberlain, Arteta, Santos..

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    4. bradbury1
      14 years, 2 months ago

      someone mentioned sczeney fulham rotation yesterday

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      1. heco87
        14 years, 2 months ago

        Sounds a bit pricey ..

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        1. Rollo
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          14 years, 2 months ago

          what about with West Ham, that my current combo but not seen anyone else look at it yet. Not that I would be put off by that...

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        2. bradbury1
          14 years, 2 months ago

          not too bad for
          Norwich
          Stoke City
          West Ham
          West Brom/Southampton
          Wigan

          first 5

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  9. double damage
    14 years, 2 months ago

    cant decide ghram or petric !! ?

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    1. blue cheese
      14 years, 2 months ago

      Boselli! 😎

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      1. Doosra - ☭BowenOfRice☭
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        14 years, 2 months ago

        I think there should be a punishment for this sort of thing. 😉

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        1. blue cheese
          14 years, 2 months ago

          😛
          Ok. I'll stop!

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          1. Doosra - ☭BowenOfRice☭
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            14 years, 2 months ago

            😀

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    2. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
      14 years, 2 months ago

      I have both!

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    3. blue cheese
      14 years, 2 months ago

      Graham if you don't have a Swansea mid.

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  10. Home Run Baker
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    14 years, 2 months ago

    A: Pog + Ben Arfa

    B: Graham + Pienaar

    C: Petric + Pienaar

    Thanks

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    1. blue cheese
      14 years, 2 months ago

      b

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    2. Le Limpar
      14 years, 2 months ago

      B for me

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    3. Beavis
      14 years, 2 months ago

      B with McClean instead of Pienaar.

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    4. JELLYFISH
      14 years, 2 months ago

      C for me

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  11. cyw1988
    14 years, 2 months ago

    I've decided to go for Tevez over Aguero... IT has been tough but I am liking the decision... Tevez is good no matter if he starts or from the bench, I see him getting some points...

    I don't know if Torres is back to his best but a quick rerun of the Euro 2012 highlights on TV today had me convinced. He looked like the Torres of old at Liverpool. Hungry to plant the ball in the net.

    My only real gamble this season is Hazard. He could very well turn out explosive but if he doesn't I would turn to Mata.

    I decided against double chelsea defence as I was put off by the recent lack of cleanies from them. I've got cashley in my team ATM which I may swap out for jones come later GWs.

    My team now:
    Friedel---Fred
    Fabio--Clyne--Bardsley--Cashley--Lescott
    Nzog--Hazard--Bale--Yaya--Noble
    Tevez--Torres--Petric

    Worries:
    (1) No United/Arsenal/Pool cover
    (2) Newcastle's Ba and Cisse (interestingly if torres does falter I may switch to Cisse)
    (3) Pienaar - I am so tempted to go for him from the go but Everton are known for being slow starters (cough 6-0 beating by Arsenal cough) BUT (a huge but) they do perform quite well against United. With that said I actually went with Nzog...
    (4) Yaya over Silva (Silva was my fav player over the last year but at 10m he feels really overpriced given the likes of Bale and the talent on chelsea's mid to go around.

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    1. Brian (Not the Messiah)
      14 years, 2 months ago

      remember you can always get Hazard in if he shows better potential than Mata. this reminds we of Silva vs Nasri of last season...

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      1. cyw1988
        14 years, 2 months ago

        But I do worry that Mata may not start thea season...

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    2. Home Run Baker
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      14 years, 2 months ago

      Nice team. Lack of MU coverage - would prefer to see Valencia / Kagawa instead of Yaya (depends on £ of course). I assume from your comments that you're not reserving £2 for the Torres to Rooney move - I am also considering that, freeing up cash to upgrade elsewhere.

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      1. cyw1988
        14 years, 2 months ago

        I think to assume that Rooney would outperform Torres is a longshot although I do think Rooney is a better FPL asset than Torres (at least on paper anyways) but there are always other cheaper targets to count on (Ba and Cisse as I have mentioned or even Darren Bent if one lacks the $ to bring in Rooney).

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  12. Mick
    14 years, 2 months ago

    Swanseas defence likely to fall apart under Laudrup? Yes or no?

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    1. ManofKent
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      14 years, 2 months ago

      No

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    2. GoonerByron
      14 years, 2 months ago

      No.

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    3. Brian (Not the Messiah)
      14 years, 2 months ago

      nope

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    4. heco87
      14 years, 2 months ago

      I don't know about fall apart as the same players are still there but I'd be amazed if they keep anywhere near as many clean sheets.

      I think Laudrup has a reputation for very attacking football although I don't have any stats to verify this!

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      1. Brian (Not the Messiah)
        14 years, 2 months ago

        in the first 8 fixtures they should keep a few at least... after that I'll have to see

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        1. heco87
          14 years, 2 months ago

          Yeah they've got some decent fixtures, inc 5 home games. Over the course of the season I think they'll struggle a little bit personally though. Would rather have a Spurs / Newcastle / Fulham defender for the price though, although I'd imagine I'm in an overwhelming minority here.

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          1. Brian (Not the Messiah)
            14 years, 2 months ago

            its not like you have to stick with the team you start with! I plan on WC after 8... possibly before then, so I've planned for it.

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            1. heco87
              14 years, 2 months ago

              Yeah, just saying that for the money I would rather have a Spurs defender over the first 8 GWs.

              Think it's a bit bold to plan an early WC to be honest.

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              1. Brian (Not the Messiah)
                14 years, 2 months ago

                I've done it a 2 years in a row now. I'm just being realistic with myself and making the most of it

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                1. heco87
                  14 years, 2 months ago

                  Go for it, your previous ranks suggest you know best 😉

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                  1. Brian (Not the Messiah)
                    14 years, 2 months ago

                    haha, thanks! 😉

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  13. JS27
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    14 years, 2 months ago

    a. N'Zogbia and Torres

    b. Maloney and Rooney

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    1. AA
      14 years, 2 months ago

      For GW1 , I'd pick A .

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    2. heco87
      14 years, 2 months ago

      The consensus on here is going to be to go for Maloney & Torres for GW then use the cash to upgrade him to Rooney.

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  14. domski
    14 years, 2 months ago

    Anyone see the space to squeeze out 2m so I can upgrade Torres to Rooney GW2, and get Siggy to Bale? so thats 2.5m in total.

    De Gea – Federici
    Demel – Clichy – Cashley – Clyne – Hangeland
    McClean – Maloney – Pienaar – Sigurdsson – Mata
    Torres – Petric – Aguero

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    1. Jack1980
      14 years, 2 months ago

      tevez to aguero,

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      1. cyw1988
        14 years, 2 months ago

        second that... you just don't bet against tevez... ever... on form off form overweight tantrum throwing... He will punish whatever team he plays against...

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    2. Moves Like Agger
      14 years, 2 months ago

      McClean âž¡ Maloney (1.5)
      Cashley âž¡ Heitinga (1.0)

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    3. Baines on Toast...
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      14 years, 2 months ago

      Petric to James Vaughan, he'll get more points

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  15. GoonerByron
    14 years, 2 months ago

    RMT please guys, think I'd be quite happy going into GW1 with this and lots of money in the bank to sort out any issues that come up..

    Federici (Friedel)
    ACole Clichy Rafael (Cuellar) (Mccartney)
    Mata Arteta Taarabt Guthrie (Maloney)
    Aguero Torres Graham

    3 mil in the bank...

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    1. Call Me Old Fashioned
      14 years, 2 months ago

      Clichy--->Lescott

      There that is one issue sorted

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      1. Baines on Toast...
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        14 years, 2 months ago

        until they sign a new centre half

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      2. GoonerByron
        14 years, 2 months ago

        I prefer to keep Clichy over Lescott. He'll start enough games for me not to be worried.

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        1. Call Me Old Fashioned
          14 years, 2 months ago

          I wish I could have as much confidence in Kolarov not getting more than enough games to annoy me

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  16. Sir Jose Wenger returns
    14 years, 2 months ago

    Keeper dilemma I have only 9.0

    Mignolet and Cerny

    or rotate Davis and Federici

    Also any ideas on Man U midfield line up?

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    1. Demí
      14 years, 2 months ago

      Don't like either of those combo's Find another 0.5 imo.

      Valencia - Carrick - Scholes/Cleverley/Anderson - Nani/Young
      Kagawa

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      1. Demí
        14 years, 2 months ago

        formatting fail...

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        1. Chazza
          14 years, 2 months ago

          But the content was spot on 😉

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      2. Sir Jose Wenger returns
        14 years, 2 months ago

        Thanks

        Finding the 0.5 is the hardest thing right now

        So Kagawa playing behind Rooney uptop leaves Welbeck on the bench most games?
        Valencia and Kagawa look the best picks with rotation factored in...

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        1. Demí
          14 years, 2 months ago

          yeah id say so

          Think it's a close call between Valencia or Kagawa. Kagawa slightly less nailed on but cheaper and bigger goal threat.

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      3. Coldplay
        14 years, 2 months ago

        Add Giggs in there somewhere. He will occasionally get games too.

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    2. Chazza
      14 years, 2 months ago

      Davis and Federici as Cerny won't start.

      Carrick Anderson/Cleverley/Scholes DMs
      Valencia Kagawa Nani/Young RW/AM/LW

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      1. Sir Jose Wenger returns
        14 years, 2 months ago

        I dont like that Nani/Young thing that is coming up... Valencia or Kagawa it is!

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        1. Chazza
          14 years, 2 months ago

          Exactly.

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          1. cyw1988
            14 years, 2 months ago

            I would take Valencia anyday because of his consistency but I wouldn't bet against young and nani stealing the show.

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      2. Demí
        14 years, 2 months ago

        Should've been less flashy and just typed it like that 😉

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    3. heco87
      14 years, 2 months ago

      Davis & Jaaskeleinen is the only 9m combo I would go for.

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  17. SH1M1
    14 years, 2 months ago

    RMT

    De Gea, Federici

    Clyne, Ivanovic, Mariappa, Clichy, McCartney

    Guthrie,Michu,Yaya Toure, Nolan, Hazard

    Rooney, Torres, Podolski

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    1. Brian (Not the Messiah)
      14 years, 2 months ago

      oooh podolski!

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      1. SH1M1
        14 years, 2 months ago

        xD

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        1. Brian (Not the Messiah)
          14 years, 2 months ago

          very fancy! Wouldnt Giroud be a better pick though?

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          1. AA
            14 years, 2 months ago

            Both aren't . AW revealed Poldi and Giroud will miss the start of the season due to lack of fitness.

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            1. Brian (Not the Messiah)
              14 years, 2 months ago

              but they look so cool on team sheets!

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  18. Moves Like Agger
    14 years, 2 months ago

    Is having Aguero and Rooney from GW2 onwards too much cash spent upfront?

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    1. Baines on Toast...
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      14 years, 2 months ago

      absolutely categorically no.

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      1. SH1M1
        14 years, 2 months ago

        +0.1

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    2. Parm
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      14 years, 2 months ago

      NEVER!!!

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    3. Qubit
      14 years, 2 months ago

      Not too much money, but possibly not the best combo. Im thinking 3 big scorers up front may be a good bet this season. Im currently looking at Tevez Torres Aguero for gwk 1.

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    4. kaz 96
      14 years, 2 months ago

      where would u spend the money then? the two offer the best returns(proven) so no point in spending money elsewhere

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  19. MJ6987
    14 years, 2 months ago

    Another day, another tweak. I realised that with 3 Chelsea players in my side I am already setting myself up for 3 potential transfers that I will want to do early on, and that's too much, so got rid of Hazard (who may not play both DGW games anyway)...

    Mignolet - Federici
    Lescott - Ivanovic - Hangelaand - Boyce - Demel
    Bale - Kagawa - Pienaar - Maloney - Guthrie
    Aguero - Torres - Petric

    £2.0 in bank

    I am enjoying this team very much - not really seen an RMT recently that I prefer, which is a good sign!

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    1. Brian (Not the Messiah)
      14 years, 2 months ago

      You think Kagawa will start from the get go?

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      1. 20LEGEND
        14 years, 2 months ago

        I do. I think Kags is going to become the link that the United team has been missing

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        1. Brian (Not the Messiah)
          14 years, 2 months ago

          think I'll trade to him once I'm sold... gw1 is not about risks.

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      2. Chazza
        14 years, 2 months ago

        He will.

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      3. Demí
        14 years, 2 months ago

        Especially away to Everton where they will have a strong midfield, we got overrun vs. them last season. Kagawa has taken part in all the pre-season, looked great. Welbeck still isn't so don't think he'll be used straight away.

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      4. MJ6987
        14 years, 2 months ago

        Yes, I think Kagawa will be to key to United's side this season

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    2. Dago
      14 years, 2 months ago

      do you not prefer mine at the top of page?

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      1. MJ6987
        14 years, 2 months ago

        No, but its close!

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    3. Chazza
      14 years, 2 months ago

      Let's see how you enjoy your team once the season actually starts 😛

      Yeah, it's pretty well balanced. I can't see anything I really dislike.

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  20. alfast1c
    14 years, 2 months ago

    Here is my team for now...

    Friedel (Cerny)
    A.Cole, Hughes, Williams (Clyne, McCartney)
    =
    Hazard, Bale, Kagawa, Noble (Obertan)
    =
    Aguero, Torres, Graham

    2 mil. in bank ofc for the obvious move gw2. Please dont comment me on Obertan 🙂 since hes the 4.5 mid that iam never going to play maybe but for that $ hes the best offer imho. Cant make decisions now for gw3, but planning on swapping Cole to Rafael or Lescott. Iam pretty satisfied with my GK combo evethou Cerny is bench wormer... This tactic showed kinda good since i finished in the top 100 last year.

    Ure comments are appreciated!

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    1. Sir Jose Wenger returns
      14 years, 2 months ago

      Williams wont play

      Noble will get 90 points max as he always does

      Otherwise its good... no problem playing a goalie week in week out as Vorm proved last season you just have to pick the right one

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      1. Cruicky
        14 years, 2 months ago

        why won't Williams play?

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        1. Sir Jose Wenger returns
          14 years, 2 months ago

          Gah sorry he will play for some reason I mistook him for williamson... williams will play!

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      2. alfast1c
        14 years, 2 months ago

        Why Williams wont play? Whos better than Noble for that $$?

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      3. pewty
        14 years, 2 months ago

        This may be true about Nolan, but... he's nailed on, takes pens and is on set pieces. WHU fixtures are pretty decent to start with too. I'd prefer to take all that instead of a punt, while I wait and see what happens with the others in his price bracket.

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        1. alfast1c
          14 years, 2 months ago

          word.

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    2. domski
      14 years, 2 months ago

      Tottenham trying to bring in new goalie.
      Two of your three big money players in the midfield are punts.
      What are you going to do if Torres scores two or more? 😛

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      1. alfast1c
        14 years, 2 months ago

        U think that the new gk will be more than 5.5? Than iam taking Vorm in.
        Hazard may be a punt, but i think hes nailed on and will play full 90 mins. kagawa iam worried about but he may be swapped to Tony V anytime.
        Yes i so am! I dont want to put him in, but that double gw is just so easy i think.

        Was thinking of getting Rooney instead of Graham and put a 5.5 mid instead of Hazard. Maybe Allen or Dyer since i wont have swanse attacking coverage...

        What u think ?

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        1. domski
          14 years, 2 months ago

          if its Lloris it'll be 6m

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        2. Sir Jose Wenger returns
          14 years, 2 months ago

          Noble is the best of the 5.0 mids but that is because that price category is so awful but you have 3 big hitters in midfield rather than 2 big and 2 medium priced so it depends on strategy. When you want to make changes it becomes difficult unless you have money in the bank

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  21. Baines on Toast...
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    14 years, 2 months ago

    Slowly settling down, until the charity shield messes things up

    De Gea - Green

    Ivanovic - Williams - Cuellar - B. Jones - Gorkss

    Bale - McClean - Dyer - Maloney - Noble

    Rooney - Aguero - Torres

    Only issue remaining is whether to get one more big hitting mid and DG a striker, but I'd rather have Torres & Dyer to, say, Mata & Graham (to begin with anyway), likewise Rooney and Dyer over Kagawa/Tony V and Bent/Jelavic.

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    1. alfast1c
      14 years, 2 months ago

      Tbh i like it. Only thing iam concerned is who are u going to swap Torres with gw2? Or u aint planning that? Btw, i dont like Bent for the swap.

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      1. Baines on Toast...
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        14 years, 2 months ago

        Yeah not really sure on Bent. I'd have money for Kagawa/Tevez which is the most tempting one tbh, don't mind doubling up with Kun.

        And I'll keep Torres GW2...he's got a home game he'll play, planning on outing him then is stupid IMO. In GW3 I'll have two transfers and do whatever seems best.

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        1. alfast1c
          14 years, 2 months ago

          Like thje plan. gj

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    2. Sir Jose Wenger returns
      14 years, 2 months ago

      Dyer is not really being selected much in preseason

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      1. alfast1c
        14 years, 2 months ago

        Allen than.

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      2. Baines on Toast...
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        14 years, 2 months ago

        cheers, will have to check it out. Not overly keep on doubling up on Swans so may go elsewhere.

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  22. Manani
    14 years, 2 months ago

    do people think this is a good idea:

    If your team don't have a big hitter, that you are pretty sure he will do well, and ur rivals have him. You place a tenner on him for scoring/brace/hat-trick/assist, so either way you win.
    If he scores, you win money, If he don't, you win FPL wise.

    Using a tenner to buy ur result in another word

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    1. Baines on Toast...
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      14 years, 2 months ago

      dangerous road to go down.

      I find FPL means I bet less money on football. at least that's my excuse 😛

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    2. Druggie Freedman
      14 years, 2 months ago

      I've actually done that in the past with mixed results.

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      1. Manani
        14 years, 2 months ago

        any reason why u stopped doing it?
        too much cash involved?

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    3. heco87
      14 years, 2 months ago

      I think that's a bit dangering and could lead to bit of an addiction so I'm in the "bad idea" camp!

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      1. Manani
        14 years, 2 months ago

        well, how about occasionaly?

        e.g. not having kun in GW1, and bet on him scoring against SOT

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  23. That's Groß
    14 years, 2 months ago

    Can't decide on a GK combo, so please can you suggest some guys?

    Thanks

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    1. Baines on Toast...
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      14 years, 2 months ago

      if you can't decide just pick De Gea, with whoever you like best of the 4.5s as backup.

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    2. AA
      14 years, 2 months ago

      De Gea and Hart rotate perfectly .

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      1. That's Groß
        14 years, 2 months ago

        De Gea it is. And second place goes to...

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      2. FPL Daniel
        14 years, 2 months ago

        Jussy / Henderson

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  24. FORCA INTER
    14 years, 2 months ago

    what do youu think about Tevez?

    i would like to have him for only first 3 gws

    if i downgrade Aguero rest of my team looks much better

    decissions , decissions and 2 week from start anyways

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    1. Parm
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      14 years, 2 months ago

      **Decisions, Decisions**

      And yes, i'm pondering Tevez from the off, but so long as I have Silva to cover.

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      1. FPL Daniel
        14 years, 2 months ago

        Big no

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        1. Parm
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          14 years, 2 months ago

          Why?

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          1. THE Wild Rover
            14 years, 2 months ago

            Don't argue with him, he'll only point out his ranking..... 😉

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      2. Link
        14 years, 2 months ago

        + lots.

        After all the tinkering - Im only happy with Tevez - if I have Silva as well....

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    2. 20LEGEND
      14 years, 2 months ago

      Prefer Aguero right now, think he will do extremely well this season

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      1. FORCA INTER
        14 years, 2 months ago

        as i said,i dont fanc him to do as good once when Balotelli hit the form

        i just wanna have City striker for 3 oppening fixures and then get jelavic and Nasri/Silva in as City coverage

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  25. domski
    14 years, 2 months ago

    A.) McClean & Pienaar
    B.) Noble & Sessengnon

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    1. Sir Jose Wenger returns
      14 years, 2 months ago

      Tough choice but looking at fixtures I would say A

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    2. kaz 96
      14 years, 2 months ago

      A defo

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  26. FPL Daniel
    14 years, 2 months ago

    Any Andre fans out there? AVB secrets revealed 😛
    Read more at http://www.talksport.co.uk/magazine/virals/120801/avbs-10-commandments-his-management-secrets-revealed-177764#TXWtYO7yolmfpuCB.99

    Please check this out. My favorite is no 10 😛 😆 😆 😆 10. Thou shalt instruct players to hug you in public

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    1. Kings of Lyon ★
      14 years, 2 months ago

      AVB is a great manager and will last longer than RDM and he will guide Spurs above Arsenal into 4th. Buggu it Daniel.

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      1. FPL Daniel
        14 years, 2 months ago

        will do will do mate

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    2. Gaz Downright
      • Has Moderation Rights
      14 years, 2 months ago

      Yet #7 is the most important one.

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  27. Call Me Old Fashioned
    14 years, 2 months ago

    Valencia or Kagawa?

    Money no object.

    Currently have Bale and Hazard as big mids, but thinking of leaving Bale out for GW1 and doing Hazard--->Bale/Siggy/VDV for GW2 depending on how spurs line up in GW1. I was going to do Hazard->Utd mid GW2 but changed mind.

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    1. FPL Daniel
      14 years, 2 months ago

      Silva if GW 1 is considered

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      1. Call Me Old Fashioned
        14 years, 2 months ago

        I have Aguero and cant squeeze out another 0.5 for Silva over Bale, my mid is currently 9.5, 9.5, 5.5, 5, 5

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  28. Gaz Downright
    • Has Moderation Rights
    14 years, 2 months ago

    After the Euros ended it's been a gravelike silence in the "false 9 camp". But surely there must be someone about. A certain No. 9 wearing Gaz B perhaps?

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  29. Prhymeate
    14 years, 2 months ago

    a) Rooney & Ben Arfa
    or
    b) Adebayor & Jelavic

    (i know, diff total price and position, but for arguments sake)

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    1. Declan-
      14 years, 2 months ago

      A because i think rooney will be essential

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  30. Declan-
    14 years, 2 months ago

    Here i go with draft #712

    Ddg, Federici
    Terry, Williams, Demel, Rafael, Cuellar
    Hazard, Pienaar, McClean, Maloney, Noble,
    Rooney, Tevez, Torres

    Hazard > Bale/Siggy Gw2

    Any thoughts?

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