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4 January 2013 1610 comments
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Chelsea have this afternoon confirmed the signing of Demba Ba from Newcastle on a three-and-a-half-year contract. Having triggered the £7m release clause in the Senegalese’s contract, the Blues moved quickly to address a distinct lack of forward options – with Daniel Sturridge moving to Liverpool and Romelu Lukaku remaining on loan at West Brom, the Champions League winners have been relying solely on Fernando Torres up top this term:

In spite of a recent upturn in output from Torres since the dismissal of Roberto Di Matteo, reinforcements have been badly needed. Ba – with an average better than a goal every other game in the English top flight – will be sorely missed by the Magpies but was keen to move on after a successful season-and-a-half on Tyneside:

“It feels good to be here, I’m very happy and very proud. It was important for me, and for Newcastle, to get my future sorted and now we can move on. Now they have the whole month to buy someone and for me as well, the sooner the better. Now I am here I just need to get settled in. When the club who won the Champions League wants you, the decision is very easy. This club is massive and that’s something that helped the decision a lot. It was not a hard one.”

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The French-born Ba had unsuccessful trials with both Lyon and Auxerre before making his way to England, where he was offered a one-year deal at Watford. Let go by Hornets boss Aidy Bothroyd in March 2005, he returned to France to sign for Rouen – there, he demonstrated his potential, with 22 goals in 26 appearances, before being snapped up by Belgian outfit Mouscron. In spite of an injury-ravaged season, he still managed eight goals in 12 matches before German outfit Hoffenheim came calling.

Ba produced 37 goals in 97 appearances, helping the club clinch promotion to the Bundesliga, before he was on the move again. After failing medicals with both Stuttgart and Stoke, he clinched a short-term deal with West Ham on a “pay as you play” basis, due to concerns over a knee injury. His impact at Upton Park was immediate and demonstrated his suitability to England’s top flight, with seven goals accrued in just 12 appearances in a season that saw the Hammers relegated to the Championship.

Newcastle moved quickly to secure his signature last season and, despite a poor second half to the campaign as a result of a shift out wide to accommodate new boy Papiss Cisse, Ba still managed to register 16 goals and five assists in 34 appearances. Moved back to a central berth this term, Ba’s output has been crucial to the Magpies – 13 goals and three assists over 20 league matches sums up his ability to produce. So far, then, his time in England has harvested 36 goals and eight assists from just 66 appearances.

The Prospects

From a Fantasy perspective, the move will be greeted with some trepidation. Ba has been superb value this season – beginning at 7.5 in Fantasy Premier League (FPL) he had started every league game when available for Alan Pardew but Benitez’s penchant for a 4-2-3-1 system means the new boy will likely fight it out with Torres for game time from here on in.

Speaking earlier this week, Benitez hinted at his plans to rotate his compatriot, who has started all 21 league games so far:

“Fernando is one of the players who needs to rest…if you have another striker you can play with two strikers if you need to. Or if you want to rest a striker then you can do that and at the moment we are a bit short.”

Looking at the statistics, though, Ba has played just 42 minutes less than Torres so far, suggesting he’s unlikely to be guaranteed a run of starts. Unfortunately for Fantasy managers, consistency of selection is not Benitez’s forte – we only have to look at Wednesday’s home defeat by QPR, where both Juan Mata and Eden Hazard were omitted from the starting line-up, to remind ourselves how detrimental the interim manager’s tinkering can be to our Fantasy fortunes. Going on the comments above, Benitez may revert to a front two when chasing games but aside from that, Ba and Torres are likely to be victims of his rotational whims – fatigue (or a lack of) will be a key factor in both players’ upcoming game time. The one factor in Ba’s favour, however, is that he is ineligible for Europa League duties, having already played in the competition for Newcastle this season – a factor to consider when the Blues square up to Sparta Prague in mid-February.

Frustratingly, the move comes just hours after news broke that Chelsea have a potential double Gameweek 22 on the horizon. Depending on the result of their FA Cup clash with Southampton tomorrow, the Blues could face a pair of games against Stoke and the Saints next time out but doubts will already be creeping in over Ba’s pitch time – can we really rely on Benitez not to tinker? The only hope is that he’ll have learnt from the QPR loss; that he’s realised he simply cannot afford to make too many alterations if he’s looking for the silverware that could keep him in the Stamford Bridge hotseat beyond the end of this season.

Ironically, the Ba move is likely to boost the prospects of Papiss Cisse, bringing the 8.8 priced Newcastle man back onto our Fantasy radars. The latter racked up 13 goals in 14 appearances playing through the middle in a 4-3-3 last season but has been a bitter disappointment this term for Newcastle, due to Ba’s move back to a central role. Alan Pardew revealed yesterday, however, that Cisse will be deployed centrally once again and with consistency of selection not an issue, he could prove the real beneficiary of today’s events.

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  1. seanoflynn
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    If the DGW goes ahead I am thinking one of the following.

    Bale to Mata or Walcott to Hazard, which would you prefer. No transfer value issues to consider either.

    Could do Walcott to Mata and downgrade Ivan to Luiz as another option. Then straight swap back for Walcott in the DGW 23

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  2. Koflok
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    Think I'll bench Michu this GW. Swansea has scored 0 against Everton in the last 3 meeting.
    Should've transferred out Michu instead of Bale to get Fellaini in last GW. :\

    Turnbull
    Jones Gibbs Cuelllar
    Fellaini Mata Punch Walcott
    RVP Defoe Suarez

    Bego | Michu Demel Cameron

    2 Chelsea 1 South. Should be enough right? Don't like Chelsea's striker and can't see anything of value in Sot other than Punch.

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    1. Jax
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      everton to keep a clean sheet? haha good one...

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      1. Koflok
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        I honestly can see them winning this 1-0. They are a side which plays against Swansea. I can see Fellaini scoring big.
        But yeah a goal conceded seems like as well. And Michu will probably be the goalscorer.

        So Michu's explosiveness or Punch DGW?

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      2. Koflok
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        *plays well

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  3. rvp786
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    is this worth a 8pt hit???

    bego
    gibbs cuellar clyne
    punch mata walcott michu
    rvp berba suarez

    bunn silva o brien nelsen

    no fts 3.5m in bank

    bunn or nelsen >>> turnbull or luiz

    silva >>> bale or hazard

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    1. Adam Lallana makes Messi lo…
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      punch over silva?

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      1. rvp786
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        yeh due to 2 games. i want to ship silva out for bale or hazard

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        1. Dial Square
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 6 months ago

          Berba>Silva?

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          1. rvp786
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 6 months ago

            berba home to wigan will do well

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  4. Adam Lallana makes Messi lo…
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    dose anyone have lukaku?

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    1. Vote Joke
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      His mum does.

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      1. bitterandstout
        13 years, 6 months ago

        and his Da has him every other weekend

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    2. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      No but if he got called back it'd be funny owning Ba Torres Lukaku for the DGW

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    3. Jax
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      rotated. no point.

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  5. FPL Touches
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    Repost - bottom of page

    Try this one for size 😉 (cheers to LR for the idea)

    Turnbull* (Bego)
    Azpi* – Gibbs* – Clyne* (Wilko, Demel*)
    Mata* – Walcott* – Fellaini – Puncheon* (Michu)
    RVP – Suarez – Lambert*

    And 1.7m in the bank to do Lambert to Giroud for DGW2 😎
    Opinions/Advice?

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    1. thischarmingman
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      *=DGW'ers?

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      1. FPL Touches
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        Ya.

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        1. thischarmingman
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 6 months ago

          You're using two wildcards? Could be awesome. Could be awesome either way. Go for it!

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  6. Fifa las vegas
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    What about this forward line?
    Sturridge/Chamakh, RVP, Ba 😎

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    1. Billy Gilmore
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Chamakh 😆

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    2. Jax
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      no.

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    3. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Chamakh makes baby Jesus cry...

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      1. Fifa las vegas
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        😀

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    4. FPL Touches
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Chamakh?! 😯

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      1. Dial Square
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        He could be ok for a team that like hitting crosses into the box - not skillfull enough to play Arsenal style football or to dribble past his man, but a decent athlete, fairly good in the air and an ok finisher.

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  7. Dial Square
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    Going for a rare RMT if people are feeling generous

    Mingolet (Shwarts)

    Gibbs, O'Brien, Cuellar (Cameron) (Shorey)

    Santi, Theo (v), Punch, Silva, Bale (c)

    Torres, Suarez, (C Cole)

    Thinking of Silva>Mata, Shorey>Luiz for (-8) if the Chelsea dgw is definitely on?

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    1. Vote Joke
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      I can't understand how you can't have RVP. He should be a 100% owned player. No one will win any league without him.

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      1. jayzico
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        +1

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      2. Dial Square
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        waiting for the wc to decide on that

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  8. andres
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    Wildcard makes it all so much easier, now is the best moment! Everybody hit the button and lets get those prices up! 🙂

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    1. Mindless Freak
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      What if they draw? That means no DGW and waste of wildcard.

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  9. Give The Todd Some Love
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    Shameless repost (only question on last page without a response - flair 😎 )

    A) Vert –> Azpil -4
    B) Silva –> Mata -4
    C) Both for -8

    Only DGW player at the moment is Clyne

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    1. OPTA FPL
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      B
      If you think Azpill will play both games then C maybe worth

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    2. Mindless Freak
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Silva -> Mata -4 mate. Vert is playing QPR.

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    3. I wish I knew
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Just (C) Clyne, how's that for flair...?

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  10. OPTA FPL
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    I have Puncheon but not sure I will play him in 'DGW 22' :????:

    Walcott / Mata / Puncheon / Silva / Bale

    Must bench Pun out of them, right?

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    1. rvp786
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      i would be tempted to bench walcott. man city will keep it tight. arse r shite

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    2. SW6
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      you could bench walcott vs city

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    3. Parm
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Bench Silva.

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    4. Koflok
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Well if it helps. City never scored a goal in Emirates since 07/08 😉

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      1. OPTA FPL
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        😯

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        1. Koflok
          • 13 Years
          13 years, 6 months ago

          In a league match that is. They did win against a second string Arsenal on a League Cup match couple years ago. Even that it was 1-0 thanks to Kun.

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  11. The Bandit
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    Bollox, with PP Semi gw22 and no Chelsea or Soton players I don't think a dgw could be worse..... 🙁

    #Prayingforthedraw

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    1. Lateriser 12
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      In case we don't i have an idea which might be of some use to you.

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    2. FPL Touches
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      WC?

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      1. The Bandit
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        Screws up the final though if I qualified.. 😕

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    3. blue cheese
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Mr. KK was looking for you earlier to propose a pact of no WCing for GW22! 😆

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      1. The Bandit
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        Haha, could we be trusted? 😀

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      2. Billy Gilmore
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        😆

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      3. Lateriser 12
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        😆

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    4. I wish I knew
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      What was you transfer?

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      1. The Bandit
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        Sorry, can't say.. 😉

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        1. I wish I knew
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 6 months ago

          Fair enough! Hope you get through!

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          1. The Bandit
            • 15 Years
            13 years, 6 months ago

            Cheers bud

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  12. fatherted
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    Front 3 currently RVP Suarez Dzeko(from Ba)

    Thinking Cisse could be a great option once Cabaye and/or HBA return.

    I know Newcastle aren't the same team that did so well but 8.8 could be a great price going forward

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    1. Chu Young Ping Pong
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Got him on my WC. Can't sell him now cuz I've got Ba and 3 Chelski players. Will keep him for the next 2.

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  13. Mindless Freak
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    Cisse or Cole for the DGW? Out -> Torres.

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    1. Mindless Freak
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      I mean shall i bring in cole or ignore dgw and go for Cisse's fixtures.

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  14. ClaireT
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    Would love some opinions on my wildcard. Have 0.7 left in bank.

    Begovic, Szczesny
    Cuellar, Demel, Zabaleta, Ivanovic, Cameron
    Walcott, Bale, Fellaini, Michu, Puncheon
    Berbatov, RVP, Pogrebnyak

    Thanks

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    1. Mindless Freak
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Are you going to remove Szeczesny after DGW? If so good move, if not bad move too much money in GK's.

      Ivanovic too expensive, maybe go for Azpi?

      Need to bring in Mata somehow into that midfield.

      You have 2 cheap forwards, hence showing your defence is too expensive because most people will go for 5 well known mids and 2 strikers and 1 cheap striker, but you have 1 cheap midfielder as well as 1 cheap striker.

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  15. Strawberry Jelavic
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    The first of many times this will be asked over the next few weeks but -

    Ba or Sturridge??

    Sorely tempted to drop Suarez for Sturridge and draft in Gerrard too - ballsy but suicidal?? Or hold tough till Liverpool's fixtures soften and assess again.....

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    1. Ayling Buyers Club
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Sturridge is overrated.

      Me, I want Bale so badly I am thinking of Gerrard -> Bale.

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      1. Strawberry Jelavic
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        Certainly worth the change for a month or so - you'd be giving Bale a chance and if he disappoints, revert back to Gerrard in a month!

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  16. Sánchez
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    Thoughts on WC team plan for wk24?

    Sczezny / Begovic
    Wilson / Sagna / Garrido / Cuellar/ O Brien
    Mata / Michu / Fellaini / Lennon / Walcott
    Tevez / Van Persie / Sturrige

    Should have 2 for DGW 22 and 6 for 23.
    Would Mata DGW and Carzola DGW beat RVP as captain?

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  17. Beautiful Game
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    any new transfer news related to premier league???

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    1. COMH
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Holtby - Schalke > Spurs
      J. Cole and Chamakh > West Ham
      Ba > Chelsea
      Sturridge > Liverpool

      The rest is all gossip.

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      1. COMH
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        Debuchy > Newcastle

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      2. Beautiful Game
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        do j cole and chamakh come into contention for dgw choices???

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        1. COMH
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 6 months ago

          Yup

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    2. onionbarje
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Sneijder is willing to move to a top English club
      Ba is officially a Chelsea player
      Chamack and J.Cole join WHam
      Newcastle sign right back Debuchy

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  18. COMH
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    Why are there so few prices rises happening? Where are all those silly people buying and selling en masse?

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    1. Billy Gilmore
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Most people have very few changes to make.

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  19. jelly.john
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    sorry guys but i can't under satnd chelsea and soto draw tomorrow ?? wt that mean ?

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    1. bitterandstout
      13 years, 6 months ago

      They play in the FA cup tomorrow.

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    2. COMH
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      If they draw with each other in the FA Cup there will be a replay which will take place the midweek of gw22.

      So we either have a cup replay ;( or a dgw 🙂

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  20. thischarmingman
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    Starting to hate my team, need to get Suarez in, don't I?
    With this: http://imgur.com/pjrju and 0FT, can I wait until after the DGW's to get him in on my WC?

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    1. Ayling Buyers Club
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Silva -> Mata. Simples.

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      1. Ayling Buyers Club
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        Oops. I see you have Tevez there. Would consider getting rid to improve the midfield.

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        1. fatherted
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 6 months ago

          +1

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  21. jayzico
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    I saw an Isacki post earlier but can't remember his thoughts on 2 nailed on chelski defenders (BAR TURNBALL)...

    would you go for Ivan, Luiz or Azwhateverhisnameis? Money no object?

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    1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Luiz/Cahill

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  22. bdwhite91
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    I have 3 chelsea players :O

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    1. Chu Young Ping Pong
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      I have 4 :O

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  23. New Ghost
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    Ba inelegible for Europa games.

    HMMMMM......

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    1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      😯

      Torres rested every premier league game

      YES!

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    2. Billy Gilmore
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Still getting rid? 😉

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      1. New Ghost
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        Keeping for the DGW at least

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    3. onionbarje
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      i know a sure league stater

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    4. New Ghost
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      *ineligible

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    5. Jafooli
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      That is a fine point.....

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  24. JT's Dog
    13 years, 6 months ago

    Do you bookmark on ere using hash tag on bottom left and if so how do you get it back

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    1. thischarmingman
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Yeah! Just click it, man.

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      1. JT's Dog
        13 years, 6 months ago

        And where does it go to get it back, stupid question but if. I not know I don't know

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  25. Jafooli
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    If the DDGW goes ahead, who has the best fixtures:

    1. Chelsea - sto, SOT
    2. Arsenal - che, WHM
    3. Southampton - avl, che
    4. West Ham - QPR, ars

    And in what order?

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    1. thischarmingman
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      1,4,2,3?

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    2. Billy Gilmore
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Chelski's defenders.

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      1. Jafooli
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        Yeah, never been a big fan of defenders for DGWs - only if great chance of 2 x CSs

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        1. Billy Gilmore
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 6 months ago

          😯 I'm a huge fan of DGW defenders. Look at Ivanovic, BAE, Walker...

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          1. Billy Gilmore
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 6 months ago

            Even Cuellar.

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          2. Jafooli
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 6 months ago

            Good players in good teams agreed but not loading up on loads of cheap stuff.....like I've done 😀

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            1. Billy Gilmore
              • 14 Years
              13 years, 6 months ago

              And Chelski are ________ ?

              Cheap shit, is, well, still shit after all 😀

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              1. Jafooli
                • 14 Years
                13 years, 6 months ago

                No, agreed, sorry my grammar pants atm.....just talking bollocks me 😉

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    3. BONZ
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Two different weeks so its not the case of two games but three games to consider....whilst also factoring in the 2 games other Clubs have.

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  26. Strawberry Jelavic
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    Total FPL price change seems to be, er, broken in terms of reporting Fellaini's progress. Its been sitting on 0 transfers in/out for the past four or five days, yet FPL scout are reporting lots of movement with him??

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    1. Chu Young Ping Pong
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      His price is protected.

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      1. Tanglebrain
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        I just logged in to ask specifically about this... the same situ is with Bale... is it def cos the prices are protected?

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      2. Strawberry Jelavic
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        Why because?? Thought that only happened if he'd risen 0.3 in the one gameweek??

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        1. Strawberry Jelavic
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 6 months ago

          And even if his price is protected. surely they can still tell us how many people have drafted him in??

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  27. tommys
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    Keep singing 6-1 keep singing 6-1, 6 games in Europe and you didn't win one.

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    1. fatherted
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      🙂

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  28. Captain Berbarossa - arrrrr…
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    Anyone else not mind Bale going to Real?

    Makes it easier for me to not have to force him into my packed midfield. At the moment, my plan is to get Bale in for Santi after the double but if he went to Real, I could get Fellaini back in for Santi and use the extra funds to upgrade elsewhere.

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    1. Ayling Buyers Club
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      One could earn some serious points from people ignoring Bale over these DGWs. I want him badly. He really is a heavyweight acquisition.

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  29. Piggs Boson
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    Sneijder not going to QPR 😯
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20910839

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    1. Koflok
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      How can it be?! 😮

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