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5 August 2014 1799 comments
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Wayne Rooney and Juan Mata are amongst the goals as United get the better of Liverpool. Steven Gerrard nets the Merseysiders’ consolation in a 3-1 defeat, with Raheem Sterling once again influential in the final third. Elsewhere, David Nugent grabs his fourth strike of the summer as Leicester ease past MK Dons:

Rooney Seals Early Bragging Rights
Wayne Rooney skippered a triumphant United line-up as they earned a morale-boosting 3-1 win over rivals Liverpool in the final of the International Champions Cup final.

Rooney levelled matters with a smart left-foot finish from a Javier Hernandez cross after Steven Gerrard had earlier put a dominant Liverpool in front from the spot – the Reds’ captain profiting following a foul on the lively Raheem Sterling by Phil Jones. With Daniel Sturridge sidelined, the electric Sterling was again the major threat for Liverpool throughout but he could not prevent his side slipping to defeat as goals from Juan Mata and Jesse Lingard earned United the trophy with assists from Luke Shaw and Ashley Young.

Rooney was later named player of the tournament, having registered four goals, and now looks in pole position to take on the United armband – even upon Robin Van Persie’s return. Rooney’s pre-season form is set to seal his place in many a Fantasy lineup, as his 34% Fantasy Premier League (FPL) ownership continues to grow. Post-match, Van Gaal had this to say on the United captaincy, hinting that Rooney would likely keep the captaincy…

“I am always looking for opportunities to give players the captain’s armband. Today Rooney played 90 minutes for the first time. Darren Fletcher had already done it two times, then he was the captain, and Tom Cleverley because he also had 90 minutes. I think you have to choose, when it is possible, the English style. That is when it is possible.”

Mata is another target who has played himself firmly into the reckoning. With 18% FPL ownership, the Spanish playmaker starts the season in fine fettle having claimed a pair of pre-season strikes and an assist playing in the “number 10” role behind twin strikers.

Both sides put out strong lineups in Miami, with United’s perhaps closest to their likely opening day teamsheet. Louis van Gaal again retained the 3-5-2, deploying Chris Smalling, Phil Jones and Jonny Evans at the back, with Antonio Valencia and Young as wing-backs.

Valencia was an early casualty: he limped off on nine minutes with Shaw introduced on the left and Young switching to right wing-back. Post-match, Van Gaal gave us an update on the Ecuadorian and fellow injury victim, Danny Welbeck, who missed last night’s encounter…

“Valencia had feelings in his leg. I had told him before the game that you have to listen to your body. The accumulation of tiredness in this tournament is high. All the players want to play but you have to be clever and he was clever to step out. When you’re feeling something in your leg, you have to pay attention to it. His [Welbeck] reaction today was good, but it’s wise we didn’t play him.”

It remains to be seen if the pair will recover to face Swansea a week on Saturday; right now the duo seem doubtful and, with Rafael also sidelined, Shaw and Young could now be set for the wing-back roles for the visit of the Welshmen – a pleasing scenario for Shaw’s 26% FPL ownership. Equally, with Robin van Persie expected to miss the opener, Hernandez could be poised to partner Rooney in attack to offer a short-term attacking option.

As for Liverpool, they were without Jon Flanagan, who continues to struggle with a knee problem sustained on tour, forcing Brendan Rodgers to deploy Martin Kelly at right-back and Glen Johnson on the left. With new signing Dejan Lovren back on Merseyside, Rodgers paired Martin Skrtel with Mamadou Sakho at the back. Joe Allen again started alongside Gerrard in the double pivot, with Raheem Sterling and Philippe Coutinho supporting Rickie Lambert in attack.

We could see a similar starting XI against Southampton on the opening day, although much depended on the availability of Sturridge, with Rodgers remaining optimistic that he’ll be available following a recent hamstring twinge. There’s little doubt that Raheem Sterling’s form over the summer has been the eye-catching factor on show for Rodgers’ side. Handed the freedom of a central attacking role, he could well justify his burgeoning 23% FPL ownership with early returns.

Post-match, Rodgers remained upbeat in spite of the loss and confirmed there are still “one or two to come in” as he continues to add to the Merseysiders’ first-team squad. The Reds boss also took time out to praise Sterling, after another standout display:

“I thought Sterling was outstanding, a real threat. The intensity in his game, how he presses the ball, and technically he’s very aware for a young player. At 19 years of age he’s a young talent and getting better all the time.”

Nugent Nets Again
Leicester’s busy schedule continued with a 2-0 win over MK Dons last night. In the third of four games over the period of six days, Nigel Pearson split his squad in two ahead of tonight’s clash with Rotherham and fielded new boys Marc Albrighton and Ben Hamer alongside the likes of skipper Wes Morgan and David Nugent. The latter opened the scoring to take his pre-season tally to four goals – only Stevan Jovetic and Glenn Murray (five apiece) have managed more – while James Pearson fired a superb second as the Championship winners clinched victory for the fourth time in five matches this summer. Whilst Nugent’s 5.5 FPL price tag is kind, the opening schedule is anything but. With games against Everton, Chelsea, Arsenal and United, allied with trips to Stoke and Palace in the opening six, only 2% of FPL managers have been willing to take a chance on The Foxes spot-kick taker so far.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. the boss99
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    Reid or Ward?

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    1. 50shades of o'shea
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      Ward

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    2. Long Juan Silva
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Ward

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    3. Lucy.
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      Ward

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    4. Rice Pudding
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Ward, no question.

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    5. thepuntmaster
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      Ward

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    6. l@sp0
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      11 years, 6 months ago

      Reid... No I mean Ward.

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  2. DropPointsNotBombs
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    11 years, 7 months ago

    RMT please guys

    De Gea

    Azpi / Chambers / Shawcross

    Sterling / Mata / Snodgrass / Fabregas / Lamela

    Rooney / Dzeko

    Myhil / Davies / Austin / Targett

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  3. Beavis
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    • 14 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    Louis van Gaal has dropped a hint that he will name Wayne Rooney Manchester United's next captain by suggesting he prefers an English leader.

    "Today, Rooney played 90 minutes for the first time. Fletcher has already done it twice and therefore he was the captain. Cleverley also played 90 minutes. I think you have to choose, when it is possible, the English style. That is when it is possible."

    http://www.espnfc.co.uk/manchester-united/story/1973040/manchester-united-boss-louis-van-gaal-suggests-wayne-rooney-could-be-captain

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  4. Long Juan Silva
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    lol some dodgy moustache on Ozil's FPL profile pic

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    1. 50shades of o'shea
      • 12 Years
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      Lol

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    2. carloicecube
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      11 years, 6 months ago

      LOOOL that face !

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    3. Casey Safe
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      11 years, 6 months ago

      True that haha

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  5. Honeybadger
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    Any PL players that play fantasy? I know Baines does since he mentioned it in and interview before, anyone know of some more?

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    1. FPL Touches
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      I think there was a whole Stoke FC league last year or the year before. Don't know whether it was real though..

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      1. pompeyfan
        • 16 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        there has been that Stoke league for a couple of seasons at least. Pretty sure it's real

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    2. Willis.
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Stoke players

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  6. penguinsofdeath
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    So front 8 is:

    Mata / XXX / XXX / Siggy / Albrighton

    Rooney / XXX / Jovetic

    Currently on... Fabregas / Sanchez / Austin or Remy
    Thinking of going... Sterling / Rambo / Costa

    Would that make it stronger?

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    1. 50shades of o'shea
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Latter

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    2. Lucy.
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Latter. Costa offers excellent captaincy potential.

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    3. Long Juan Silva
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Yes. Go for the 2nd one

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      1. penguinsofdeath
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        Thanks all... that's pretty convincing...

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  7. Lucy.
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Fab and Luis or Haz and Ward?

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    1. Long Juan Silva
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Fab & Luis

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    2. Arvin-ation
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      • 12 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      A for now

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    3. Willis.
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Haz & Ward

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    4. 50shades of o'shea
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      11 years, 6 months ago

      Ba

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    5. 50shades of o'shea
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      A*

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    6. Rice Pudding
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Haz and Ward

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    7. thepuntmaster
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      • 12 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Haz and Ward - first 2 may not start the first game

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  8. 50shades of o'shea
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    11 years, 6 months ago

    »«

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  9. Kuqi Monster
    • 15 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Not much love for long/jelavic on here.

    Granted Hull didn't score many last season but with some more attacking midfielders brought in (Ince / Snodgrass) and first five fixtures of (qpr /STO / avl / WHM / new), surely worth a punt?

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    1. 50shades of o'shea
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Come on you tigers!

      More people should get long/jelly in.
      Rotation risk with ince,snodgrass,Brady and even elmo so it's hard to pick a winger. I hope ince gets game time for us because he is class.

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      1. Kuqi Monster
        • 15 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        Currently got Long - you think he is a better option than jelavic?

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    2. pompeyfan
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Long is a decent option. I don't rate Jelly though

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    3. thepuntmaster
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      • 12 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      I think Jelly could be a good option. Especially with penos and he will benefit from Snodgrass' good delivery.

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  10. DropPointsNotBombs
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    How will Stokes defence likely line up?

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    1. Tex
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      pretty likely to be Bardsley/Cameron Huth Shawcross Pieters

      I think Cameron will eventually establish himself as the RB.

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      1. Kuqi Monster
        • 15 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        clubs rumoured to be interested in cameron, Pieters has competition from muniesa (maybe later in the season) who stoke fans rate highly.

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        1. Tex
          • 11 Years
          11 years, 6 months ago

          I saw last night that Crystal Palace are looking at Wilson from Stoke, I'd love it if Pulis instead went for Cameron.

          Muinesa? Didn't think he was all that close to challenging Pieters yet.

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  11. Rice Pudding
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Erik or Sterling?

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    1. 50shades of o'shea
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      £

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    2. thepuntmaster
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Eriksen

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      1. SirGardar
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        On that note, Eriksen or Lamela?

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  12. 42towels
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Not sure if this is the right place to ask - so go easy 🙂

    Just became a member, love the selection of tools.

    To all you helpful veterans out there - how much do you rely on the Projections table? (Especially the Six Game ones). What should we keep in mind while using it early in the season? (assuming it keeps improving as the season goes on)

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    1. thepuntmaster
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      I've just become a member after a couple years. I don't think it is too helpful pre-season, v. useful in the long run tho

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      1. 42towels
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        Thanks! Some of the numbers are definitely intriguing (and tempting!).
        Eg: Pelle @ 3rd best FWD.

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  13. thepuntmaster
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Choose:

    a) Puncheon + Studge?

    or

    b) Sterling and Lukaku?

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    1. 50shades of o'shea
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      11 years, 6 months ago

      A

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      1. thepuntmaster
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        heart tells me that, but many on here go for the latter :/

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    2. Arvin-ation
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      B

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    3. ViperStripes
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
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      BB

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  14. Willis.
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    FOX Fantasy EPL is now open!
    http://eplfantasy.foxsports.com.au/

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    1. Van Dal
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      thanks Willis

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    2. Aaron Ramessi - Straya
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      everyone join my league: 69-69

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      1. Van Dal
        • 16 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        spam

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    3. Van Dal
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      id297

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  15. Tony Yeboah
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    lots praise to ashley youngs performance lat night.....yes he hit some beautifal crosses into the box and played with great energy......but his defending for the penalty was horrific....if utd play him at wing back this season prepare for assits yes....but also for the opposition to get in behind time and time again down his flank

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    1. Billy Gilmore
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Agree. He let Sterling give Jones the run around all game. It's the main drawback of the 3-5-2 as quality wingers will exploit the space if allowed. This was the main reason the system failed at Liverpool and City.

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    2. HuttonDressedasLahm
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Yes annoyingly brings him on to the radar, but makes me rethink my DDG pick

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      1. WorldCupDanB
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        Yep same here reverted to the Krul/Manonne partnership but I'm not happy with that either

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  16. Honeybadger
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Fun fact = United conceded 4 goals in the Guiness Cup of which 3 were penalties.

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    1. Aaron Ramessi - Straya
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      de gea is a shite penalty saver then 😉

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    2. Billy Gilmore
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Conclusion: Captain the penalty taker against Man Utd every week.

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      1. @BigChrisso
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        Preseason logic wins again!

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        1. Billy Gilmore
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 6 months ago

          It's utterly flawless logic!

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    3. 42towels
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Also interpreted as United conceded only 1 goal from open play in tournament. And that's with the 3 stooges at CB. Imagine...

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  17. ViperStripes
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    • 16 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Loving the new thread purely for RMT's just put mine over there. Leaves this thread for the X vs Y discussions.

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    1. thepuntmaster
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      yea tho it seems a bit dead on here

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      1. ViperStripes
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        It will liven up this evening when workers get on.

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  18. HuttonDressedasLahm
    • 16 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    This Young bandwagon is interesting...

    Which would you prefer?

    A. Young Ramsey Costa
    Or
    B. Sanchez Mata Bojan

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    1. thepuntmaster
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Not going Young or Sanchez.B with Haz and Ramsey and upgrade Bojan

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    2. HuttonDressedasLahm
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      I have Rooney and Fabregas too

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  19. Pringle
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Vertonghen. Is he nailed on from the start?

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    1. thepuntmaster
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      yea but a bit overpriced imo

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      1. Pringle
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        We all remember Southampton under Pochettino. He could top the defender rankings this year imo

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      2. @BigChrisso
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        Disagree. Think he's perfectly priced. Going to be a great fpl player this season under Poch. 12 + cs and 4 + goals.
        If he stays the whole season of course

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      3. Tex
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        6.0 isn't over priced in my opinion. I'm actually surprised he dropped to 6.0. When fit he's an excellent choice and hopefully Pochettino has Spurs picking up plenty of Clean sheets. Could be a bargain

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  20. Ghost of Tomiyasu
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Ramsy+Jovetic

    or

    Nasri+Grioud

    Thats my GW1 dillema

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    1. HuttonDressedasLahm
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      First one imo, for GW1 anyway

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    2. @BigChrisso
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      That's not a dilemma. Giroud could miss the first match. A

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  21. Arvin-ation
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    A) Sanchez + Snodgrass + Chester + Cameron

    B) Ramsey + Arnautovic + Caulker + Huth

    C) Ramsey + Arnautovic + Vertonghen + Chester/Cameron

    The 2 defenders in B would replace, Chester & Cameron in my current draft.

    C would replace Ward + Chester/Cameron.

    Cheers

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  22. WorldCupDanB
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Is this the expected Hull back five for the first game?

    Ahmed Elmohamady - Alex Bruce - Curtis Davies - James Chester - Liam Rosenior

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  23. Del Monte
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    I can't decide on this:

    A) Sigurdsson & Sturridge

    or

    B) Ramsey/Sterling/Silva & Dzeko/Giroud/Bony

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    1. thepuntmaster
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Silva and Giroud

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      1. GoonerByron
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        I wouldn't get Giroud... He looked very tired on Sunday. Think there's a chance he won't start the season.

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  24. Overlordleo
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    So I was doing some thinking and my plan for my forwards during the first gameweeks is to start with Costa + 1 mil in the bank and upgrade to Sturridge after Gameweek 3. Then is struck me, is it really worth saving the money in the bank doing nothing? Would it not be a better idea to invest it somewhere else (Lets say Verthongen) and then downgrade the player to a 1 mil cheaper player after Gw 2 (Lets say Davies), this would mean that I only have 1 mil not being used for 1 week instead of 3.

    Is their some obvious flaw I am missing with my thinking? Would it be a better idea to invest the 1 mil and downgrade after gw 2, or should I just have it laying in the bank for 3 gw's? Thanks! 🙂

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    1. Bauerhaus 24
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      i wouldn't plan too much, i can pretty much guarantee u won't go through with it

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    2. 42towels
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Good question - and am curious about the answers.

      Seems like a function of how many GWs it's in the bank. Guessing 1 - 3 GWs - not worth the hit (unless the replacement will definitely recover. Eg: injuries), More than that, probably better investing.

      Another variable - rate of price changes / transfer activity.

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      1. Overlordleo
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        Hmm, true, I did not consider the price changes. It would cause problems if Sturridge's price increased while Costas dropped/was the same or if "Verthongen" (The player the 1 mil is invested in) dropped in price.

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    3. HamezMace
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Depends on the rest of your team - if anyone picks up a fluke injury/red card in GW1 to force you into a transfer elsewhere.

      I had Mata from the off last season and had to get him out early on, which ruined my pre-season plans.

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      1. Overlordleo
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        Worth considering, I am however fairly secure that my bench can fill in a spot during gw3 and gw 4 if someone would pick up a fluke.

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    4. Mr Blue
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      I think it´s a good idea to save some money itb, I have 1,5 right now (might be a bit too much). Gives u flexibility with transfers without taking hits. Even if most people will say "spend all the money", there is no guarantee that the players with higher cost will score better in a short run.

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  25. hnmfm
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    In, any idea who are the keepers and defenders that are priced @ 4 who will play?

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    1. GoonerByron
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      No keepers.. Very few to none in defence too I think.. Wisdom possibly.

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    2. Bauerhaus 24
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      nobody for sure, wisdom and baird (west broom), and moore (leicester) look the best bets

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    3. thepuntmaster
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Wisdom, Duff - Targett is a punt

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      1. GoonerByron
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        Targett won't play with Bertrand there now.

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    4. hnmfm
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      alright thanks brahs 😀

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    5. Bøwstring The Carp
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Gilks might play for Burnley for a short while with Heaton supposedly out injured

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  26. KKluigi
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Will any 4.5 forward actually start? 5.0?

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    1. Aaron Ramessi - Straya
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      darren bent
      jutiewicz

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  27. GoonerByron
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Is Rooney - Dzeko - Bojan too little cash distributed into strikers?

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    1. Bøwstring The Carp
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Jovetic is the man to have imo over Dzeko, Edin's done himself no favours in preseason whereas Jovetic has really impressed.

      Inevitably I think Aguero will replace Dzeko after GW1, maybe even from the off.

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      1. Albert Cole
        • 15 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        Agreed. I thin Jovetic and Aguero will be the duo this year. Remember Jove is a wonderkid that everyone just wait for to explode. Dzeko is Dzeko, you know what you get. No world class. Jovetic could become huge.

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      2. Somalion
        • 16 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        Can't see Aguero + Jovetic, Pelle likes a bigger target man like Dzeko/Negredo to pair with a more technically gifted forward.

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        1. Bøwstring The Carp
          • 14 Years
          11 years, 6 months ago

          But surely he'll be looking at Dzeko in preseason and think "this aerial game just isn't working, maybe I'll go with the two quick lads".

          Quick football is surely Pellegrini's style and who affords that more than Aguero and Jovetic?

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  28. GgeorgeG
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Which is the better team?

    A) http://imgur.com/bzCzFpM

    B) http://imgur.com/DY4Fxc8

    Thanks!

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    1. Bøwstring The Carp
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Need players from the League Champions imo. Consider Silva over Ramsey/ Fabregas in team B?

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  29. cgp1989
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    RMT Please Guys.

    Begovic (Gilks)

    Azpilicueta, Davies, Evans, (Duff, Wisdom)

    Fabregas, Sigurdsson, Mata, Hazard

    Lukaku, Rooney, Dzeko

    Value 100M

    -Still not sure on the defense, and a little unsure about Dzeko atm, maybe Giroud is worth a punt.

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    1. ViperStripes
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      See teh Community Article thread for RMT's

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  30. Del Monte
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Sturridge & Hazard

    or

    Costa & Yaya

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    1. Aaron Ramessi - Straya
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      c and y

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