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10 August 2014 6110 comments
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With just six days remaining until the 2014/15 season gets up and running, City and Arsenal go head-to-head for the Community Shield this afternoon. As expected, both side’s starting line-ups have been heavily influenced by a lack of pre-season action for a number of World Cup stars, though Arsene Wenger hands all three of his main summer signings competitive debuts:

Man City Starting XI: Caballero; Clichy, Boyata, Nastasic, Kolarov; Navas, Fernando, Toure, Nasri; Jovetic, Dzeko

Arsenal Starting XI: Szczesny; Debuchy, Koscielny, Chambers, Gibbs; Arteta, Wilshere; Alexis, Ramsey, Cazorla; Sanogo

For City, Stevan Jovetic has the chance to continue the form which has harvested five goals over the summer so far. The Montenegro international is partnered by Edin Dzeko up top and, whilst the likes of Samir Nasri and Yaya Toure also make the XI, Arsenal will be optimistic of taking advantage of an experimental City backline, which sees Gael Clichy fielded as a right-back once again and Aleks Kolarov patrolling the left.

Arsene Wenger names Mathieu Debuchy and Callum Chambers in defence alongside Laurent Koscielny and Kieran Gibbs. Aaron Ramsey owners will be buoyed by what appears to be a move to the attacking midfield three alongside Santi Cazorla and Alexis Sanchez, with Mikel Arteta and Jack Wilshere sitting in front of the defence. Up front, Sanchez’ role out wide means Yaya Sanogo gets the nod after his four-goal demolition of Benfica in last week’s Emirates Cup, with Olivier Giroud warming the bench again.

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  1. Spin
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    The Sanchez V Ramsey debate has boiled doen to this for me
    Its
    A) Ramsey with A Johnson, C Austin and Yoshida
    OR
    B) Sanchez with Hoilett, Bojan/Fletcher and Clyne

    Which would you choose?

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
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      A Johnson is temporarily fecked.

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      1. QPR expects... glory!
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        And Yoshida soon will be benched for good

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        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
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          I'm not sure about that one.

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    2. Ben Mee Over A Table
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      Wow, you must have really fecked your budget. That being said, in my opinion there is no more essential player than Ramsey, not even Rooney. Take what you will from that.

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      1. Spin
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        What do you mean by, fecked the budget?

        Team A would be:
        Krul, Mannone, Evans, B Davies, Ward, Wilson, YOSHIDA
        RAMSEY, Mata, Fab, Puncheon, JOHNSON(or another 6.5)
        AUSTIN, Costa Rooney

        Team B
        Krul, Mannone, Evans, B Davies, Ward, Wilson, CLYNE
        SANCHEZ, Mata, Fab, Puncheon, HOILETT
        BOJAN/FLETCHER/MURRAY, Costa Rooney

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    3. Spin
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      Cheers all. Didn't know Johnson was injured, the FF website is shite for updates like that.

      ©QPR Expects. who will replace Yoshida?

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  2. Captain Shirokov
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    Still don't have room in my team for Ramsey. 😕 Who do I drop? Don't want to get rid of anyone really and I fancy Lamela to have a stormer this season.

    Fab - Mata - Lamela - Siggy - 4.5

    Costa - Rooney - Dzeko

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
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      Lamela first, Fabregas next. Ghastly, imo. 😀

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    2. TheSteel
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      Keep your team the way it is. You cant have em all. And arsenal have a tough sched off the start

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      1. Debauchy
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        Fixtures ??? Crazy - Form over fixtures for attackers every day long.
        Get Rambo in.

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        1. TheSteel
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          Schedule

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          1. Ben Mee Over A Table
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            There's a difference...please, do tell me more.

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      2. Captain Shirokov
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        Yeah, I think I will.

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    3. Cheggers
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      i've gone with

      Krul, Foster,
      Cahill, Evans, Hutton, Wisdom, Bruce
      Ramsey, Sterling, Mata, Siggy, Eriksen
      Costa, Rooney, Bojan

      its possible... u just gotta believe

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      1. Captain Shirokov
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        Can't bear myself to go without Haz or Fab.

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    4. QPR expects... glory!
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      Chelsea don't score enough. Choose Costa, dump Fab for Ramsinho

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    5. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
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      Fab, Lamela, Siggy or Dzeko

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    6. aehii
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      I'd drop lamela siggy fabregas to get ramsey.

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    7. Bauerhaus 24
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      dzeko, fab, lamela

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  3. Jimmers
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    Rambo's wake-up call to us all today

    https://vine.co/v/hYz6YgujYZx

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    1. Ben Mee Over A Table
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      Not that I needed to be woken up, but yes, that's perfect.

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  4. NeymarJR11
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    Anyone else deploying 3 strikers?
    mine are Rooney Costa and Lukaku

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    1. Count of Monte Hristo
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      Always

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  5. Count of Monte Hristo
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    Evans over Lovren based on fixtures?

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
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      Hmmm - no, on Rodgers silly attitude to defence.

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      1. Count of Monte Hristo
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        Good point

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    2. applebonkers
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      man utd have the best fixtures bar none so it has to be evans

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      1. Debauchy
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        Agree Evans. Fixtures do mean something with defence. But that it

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    3. Bucky Barnes
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      Lovren looked good today, very tempted......

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      1. Debauchy
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        Great player , agree

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      2. DRAFTSNAKE
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        Liverpool's fixtures aren't that bad. They have City and Spurs away but the games games are usually tight anyway and then they have a great run of fixtures. Lovren is a season keeper for me and no one will dissuade me otherwise. So there.

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        1. DRAFTSNAKE
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          *big games

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  6. Robareid
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    Hey guys, there was a predicted starting line-ups floating around not too long ago, does anybody have a link?

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    1. Timtastic03
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      search for the word 'predicted'

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  7. Timtastic03
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    Got the last post on the previous page...
    Are we any more or less convinced about Mariappa's nailed on-ness?

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  8. Michael Jordan - call me MJ
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    Didn't get to watch much of the game today, is Dzeko still a viable option or is his place under threat?

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      didn't do a lot, but he'll start GW1. straight battle with jovetic from then as to who partners aguero when fit.

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    1. Black and amber army !
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      He left jovetic on for full game, and brought dzeko off, so I think that's a hint that he was resting dzeko for the first game, anyone else think the same?

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      1. GREENDREAMS11
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        Yes,

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  9. Jafooli
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    Zero Points league update:

    Got a second manager 😎 with 33m ITB

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    1. Spectrum-FFS Doubles Champ
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      Arsene has spent a bit though this season

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  10. Mílanista
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    Anyone remember a couple of seasons ago when Hazard fell over trying to do some silly trick in the Community Shield? Loads of people then sold Hazard only for him to tear it up in the first 3 games.

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    1. Jafooli
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      Remember o/

      Sold him o/

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    2. Count of Monte Hristo
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      Sanchez?

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      1. Mílanista
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        He won't be up against Sir Aleksander next week.

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        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
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          Sooo ... he'll be even worse??? 😯 😉

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          1. Mílanista
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            😆

            How dare you!

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            1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
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              😀

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    3. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
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      No, I can't remember. No surprise there! 😉

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  11. slickzjm
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    pelle or riviere?

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    1. mdm
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      riviere

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  12. Giroud U Kidding
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    Is it a bad idea to have 3 players from 1 of the big teams in my team. If not why??

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    1. Robareid
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      Because if you expect them to do well, why not try and capitalize?

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    2. polis
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      Not if they do well. Crazy question is crazy.

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  13. Parm
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    Ok, here's what I saw from Alexis in his 45 minutes today.

    - Positionally, he was the furthest up the pitch with the exception of Sanogo, playing just a bit deeper the striker on the right and frequently drifting inside. Essentially an inside forward in my eyes.

    - A good early understanding of his teammates games, particularly Sanogo, who he played in a few times(and a few one-two's) as well as Debuchy on the overlap. But Alexis needs a true playmaker and someone who understands his game(Özil) to really unlock his full potential.

    - His pace and power terrorised the City defenders on the counterattack(as a result of his advanced position which caught Kolarov up the pitch), although his decision making was quite poor there were still signs of his ability.

    - Only downside was his fitness. Alexis' high energy game means he needs a full tank, which he doesn't have after the World Cup.

    Overall I like what I saw, still not too sure whether to go with him initially but I was still impressed nonetheless and he can only get better.

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    1. Heydudes13
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      I saw all those things too.

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      1. Parm
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        K

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      2. Spin
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        Were you watching the same game ? 😉

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    2. applebonkers
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      i'd hope so. zero shots for 10.5mil.

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      1. Parm
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        He seemed to concentrate on the teams build up play rather than his own game. It will come.

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      Agree on the last sentence. Going to be really good... but not really good yet.

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    3. Nurse Chilli
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      Agreed, think he will thrive on Ramsey's newfound fondness for the scooped pass. He loved to get on the end of those at Barca. I think he'll do really well against Everton. Palace are likely to try and soak up pressure which won't suit Sanchez in my eyes but he will come good very soon. Ramsey gw1, Sanchez gw2.

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      1. Parm
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        I'm happy to be proven wrong by Ramsey and be forced to downgrade Sanchez to him, but for now i'm content with Sanchez.

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    4. Cheggers
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      think gameweek 8 might be the right time for him

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      1. Nurse Chilli
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        Nah, Everton will get killed by him.

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        1. Debauchy
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          But Nurse - Who you starting with ? Rambo or Sanchez ?

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        2. Parm
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          Anyone that plays with attacking full backs or a back three are going to be destroyed by him I reckon. Only two poor fixtures(Palace & Leicester) in the opening 6 in that case then.

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    5. Debauchy
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      Tx Parm. Thought the same but was a little concerned - with all the typical detractors.
      Can only get better - agree.
      For now though does seem better to start with Ramsey

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      1. Nurse Chilli
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        I'm starting with Ramsey but I have 1.5 in the bank for Sanchez. I think he needs another game. Arteta is a sneaky one for gw1, we like getting penalties in those kind of games.

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  14. super zlatan
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    Best 4.5 defender for first 5-6 gws?

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    1. 4vets
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      Hull

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      1. super zlatan
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        Cheers

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    2. Black and amber army !
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      Chester will be nailed ! 4.5m

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  15. applebonkers
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    despite the injury doubt it's good to see van aanholt owners sticking together

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    1. Tatty Bojangles
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      I still can't forgive you for pyramidfielder.

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    2. QPR expects... glory!
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      Unless Vergini comes in at 4.0 again. At that point I take the chance he'll either be ahead of Billy Jones or simply that he's better than him in Poyet's eyes 😉

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  16. KKluigi
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    So, anyone planning on using Jutkiewicz?

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    1. aehii
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      Considering, but going with Ings. He'll be involved in all the play..maybe. And doesn't seem injured.

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    2. polis
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      Yup. Bench warmer.

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  17. teej
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    RMT please
    Begovic (Mannone)
    Ward - O'Shea - Shaw (Wisdom, Hutton)
    Ramsey - Mata - Eriksen - Sigurdsson (Ward-Prowse)
    Rooney - Costa - Lukaku

    Any wise heads care to chime in?

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    1. DD11
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      Looks good. Only thing I'd say is not sure about having 3 United players, I'd downgrade Mata to upgrade the backline.

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  18. Captain Shirokov
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    Actually, screw it, I've come to realise whichever players you pick - you'll always be missing out on some. Can't have 'em all I guess.

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
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      The first step on the journey to Wisdom. 😉

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      1. Bucky Barnes
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        Wisdom can be yours for only £4.0mil

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        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
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          😆

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    2. Bolivian Seaman
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      If you defend everything you defend nothing

      Yeah, there will one or two bad players, just got to choose the right ones

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  19. Cheggers
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    Anyone else going with 3 4m defenders?

    Cahill, Evans and one rotator for me

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    1. Captain Shirokov
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      God, no.

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    2. Tatty Bojangles
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      Yep.

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  20. Piggs Boson
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    I see most are sticking with Wisdom despite Gamboa's signing. You confident he'll start every game?

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
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      Nothing to do with me. 😀

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    2. 4vets
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      Wisdom has been in my team from the start.

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    3. SW6
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      As long as he starts next weekend I'm not too bothered, he's just covering Clyne GW1

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    4. QPR expects... glory!
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      He will. Gamboa isn't fit and doesn't speak a language any of the other defenders do. Unless "oh crap they've scored" is universal body language 😀

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    5. Ben Mee Over A Table
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      Even if he does start, what kind of score will he get? West Brom look like shoite.

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      1. Sir_Dunc
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        ^ this, don't get the fascination.

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  21. Piggs Boson
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    Who's place would you judge to be more secure, Cameron or Wilson's?

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    1. Cheggers
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      not sure either are to be honest, wilson might play in front of the back 4 i suppose

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    2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
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      Sparkie's therapist.

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    3. SW6
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      Wilson for sure

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  22. Hampe
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    What do we think about Yoshida and Gerrard?

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    1. polis
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      Yoshida will start until Ronald signs someone else. Gerrard will play most games, but from deeper, although will be on free kicks. I'd go neither personally.

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      1. Ben Mee Over A Table
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        Yeah, this.

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  23. The Iron Tulip
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    Didn't dee the game, but apart from the goal, how did Ramsey and Sanchez compare? Anyone looking at Ramsey now instead of Sanchez and spending the extra else where?

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    1. Jimmers
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      Anyone? Everyone!

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      Was on Sanchez. Now on Ramsey. Not a knee-jerk either.

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      1. Parm
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        Definitely not.

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    2. polis
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      Going with both.

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    3. Ben Mee Over A Table
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      Was already on Ramsey, the only thing that's changed is that he is now my most essential player.

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      1. polis
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        Apart from Rooney, right?

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  24. mdm
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    A. Foster, Krul and Evans
    B. DDG, 4.0 and Ward/Caulker

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  25. applebonkers
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    yaya 0 shots 0 key passes. cue a free kick against newcastle

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    1. Heydudes13
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      Penalty*

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    2. Chris_White
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      1 goal 1 assist in the opener, I can feel it

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  26. Jafooli
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    Who's shitter than Pocognoli, supposedly he might play?

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
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      Who? 😀

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      1. Jafooli
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        Your dog joining the Zero Point league Doos?

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  27. KujaliaFC
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    So what's the word on the street apropos Vlaar.

    Would love him to go to United.

    Cheap United defender, and could be prosperous for Bojan on GW1.

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    1. Bauerhaus 24
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      he's going nowhere

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  28. pablo discobar
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    Can I get a RMT please? And an A or B

    A

    GK DDG/Given
    DEF Caulker, Terry, Chambers, Collocini, Davies
    MID Mata, Ramsey, Nasri, Henderson, Siggy
    FWD Rooney, Costa, Bojan

    B

    GK DDG/Given
    DEF Rio,Luis,Chambers, Collocini, Davies
    MID Mata, Ramsey, Lamela, Henderson, Isgrove
    FWD Rooney, Costa, Dzeko

    Thanks

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    1. Hampe
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      Why haven't I seen Gerrard in any teams?

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      1. Bucky Barnes
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        Still on corners and pens, assist today also

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        1. Ben Mee Over A Table
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          It's just that there are better options in that price bracket.

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  29. appleman17
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    What are the best goalkeeper rotations for 9.5 or below?

    West Brom and Villa?

    QPR and Southampton?

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  30. Jafooli
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    Zero Points League might need to introduce a new rule:

    No loan or sold players, to make it more competitive.

    1505804-347126

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      How does a zero points league become competitive? 😆

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      1. Jafooli
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        Yeah true, okay less competitive 😛

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      2. Mílanista
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        Through that awful moment when a template pick comes on for a point and everyone rushes to buy a Villa defender.

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        1. Jafooli
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          This. You got it Milanista.

          What you reckon? No loan or sold players?

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          1. Jafooli
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            Injured is okay.

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          2. Mílanista
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            Agreed. Not sure about injuries either, could be too easy. Maybe injured players can be treated like a club? 3 player limit.

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            1. Jafooli
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              Yeah good idea. Will sort some rules in the next day or two and then get Jonty to write an article on it.

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              1. Mílanista
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                I don't think Jonty will write it for you 😆

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                1. Jafooli
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                  Yeah he will 😀

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