Moving Target
2 September 2017 2280 comments
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Liverpool completed one of the more eye-catching signings of deadline day with the addition of Arsenal’s Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain for an undisclosed fee, understood to be worth £35 million.

The 24-year-old put pen to paper on a five-year deal at Anfield, with his desire to play in central midfield thought to have been a key factor in his decision.

Liverpool manager Jurgen Klopp refused to be drawn on on where he plans to use the England international, however:

“I hear a lot of talk about positions but let’s talk about the player; he is someone with really good abilities who always gives everything for his team. A player that is positive and willing to take risks to try and make positive things happen.”

The History

Oxlade-Chamberlain linked up with Southampton’s academy at the age of seven and progressed to make his professional debut against Huddersfield Town in March 2010.

He made 43 appearances for Saints in all competitions, totalling 10 goals and nine assists, before joining Arsenal in August 2011 in a deal worth up to £15 million, including add-ons.

But a combination of injuries and a lack of consistency meant Oxlade-Chamberlain never managed to play more than 1,600 minutes in any single Premier League season.

He was part of the squad that won three FA Cups and played in a number of different positions, although he was primarily used as a right-sided midfielder.

During his six-year spell with the Gunners, Oxlade-Chamberlain registered 20 goals and 32 assists in 198 matches in all competitions.

Capped by England at U18, U19 and U21 levels, making a total of 12 appearances, Oxlade-Chamberlain was handed his senior debut against Norway in May 2012.

He has made 27 appearances for the national team, producing six goals and five assists.

The Prospects

Oxlade-Chamberlain may, at some point, provide back-up Mohamed Salah and Sadio Mane in the wide forward positions, although it’s clear the 24-year-old sees himself operating in central midfield.

His chances of cementing a regular starting role look vital to his Fantasy potential but, as we know, Klopp is currently blessed with plenty of options.

Jordan Henderson, Emre Can and Georginio Wijnaldum have all enjoyed strong starts to the season, while Barcelona’s failure to prise away Philippe Coutinho from Merseyside leaves the influential Brazilian in the mix at Anfield.

The signing of Salah is expected to see Coutinho shifted into midfield, operating in an inside-left position in Klopp’s preferred 4-3-3 formation.

Adam Lallana, meanwhile, should return from a thigh injury in mid-October, while James Milner is being viewed as a central midfielder this season, with Alberto Moreno and Andrew Robertson vying for the left-back berth.

So while Oxlade-Chamberlain should shake off his recent wing-back role at Arsenal to battle for a midfield berth, he is surely set to be part of a continuous rotation policy.

Klopp demonstrated during the 1-0 win over Crystal Palace in Gameweek 2 that he will look to shuffle the pack around UEFA Champions League matches. That is a big concern with the group stages getting underway between Gameweeks 4 and 5.

Last season, Oxlade-Chamberlain enjoyed his best return in terms of assists in Fantasy Premier League (FPL), producing a total of seven.

He averaged a key pass every 48.84 minutes, which bettered both Wijnaldum (69.26) and Emre Can (71.76).

Those numbers suggest that he could provide Liverpool with improved creativity from central areas, although it’s difficult to read too much into the underlying statistics given that he played in such a variety of positions for Arsenal.

Oxlade-Chamberlain has never been a major goalscoring threat.

He is yet to score more than two goals in any single Premier League campaign and only averaged a shot every 55.82 minutes last season. In contrast, Wijnaldum and Emre Can recorded six and five goals respectively.

Only Manchester United (10) have scored more than Liverpool (eight) so far in 2017/18, while Klopp’s side lead the way for shots from inside the penalty area, with 39.

Oxlade-Chamberlain has the energy and thrust required for a box-to-box role and, if afforded the freedom to push forward, his potential for attacking returns should be enhanced.

But with just nine goals and 19 assists over the past six seasons, he has a lot to prove as an attractive Fantasy option.

With the added rotation concerns, and the fact Salah, Mane and Roberto Firmino are all in red-hot form, there appears little temptation to risk investment at this time.

Indeed, the upcoming fixtures (mci BUR lei new MUN tot) appear to give us time to assess the situation. Although, as Liverpool proved in the 4-0 win over Arsenal, Klopp’s side can defy the schedule to register goals against any opponent.

Ironically, Thursday’s move may have a greater short-term impact back at Arsenal.

Certainly, the prospects of defenders Hector Bellerin and Sead Kolasinac seem improved without Oxlade-Chamberlain providing competition in the wing-back roles.

Bellerin now appears to have little or no threat for his start, while only Nacho Monreal – who has been playing more as a central defender since Arsene Wenger switched to a three-man defence – offers competition to Kolasinac on the left.

As for Oxlade-Chamberlain, his price tag of just 6.0 in FPL (8.9 in Sky Sports) may eventually see him emerge as a consideration. But at present, our three Liverpool slots should perhaps be reserved for their buoyant front three.

We should also have one eye on a Klopp defensive option given their recent record of seven clean sheets from the last nine Premier League Gameweeks.

Oxlade-Chamberlain got the move he desired but, in Fantasy terms, we remain cautiously optimistic on its impact on our season.

Further Reference

Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain Wikipedia

Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain Transfer Markt Page

Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain You Tube Highlights

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  1. I Member
    9 years, 1 month ago

    A) Atsu + 4.5 def
    B) Brady + Mbemba

    The defender would be my 5th.

    1. Galza
      9 years, 1 month ago

      B.

    2. F4L
      9 years, 1 month ago

      B

    3. Squires FC
      9 years, 1 month ago

      A if using wc b if not

  2. Hobolicious
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Out of interest. Thoughts on these?

    Kane vs Lukaku
    Alli vs Eriksen
    Mané vs Salah vs Coutinho
    Pogba vs Mkhitaryan

    1. I Member
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Kane
      Eriksen
      Salah
      Mkhitaryan

      1. marquinhos
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Agreed

    2. Galza
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Kane
      Erik
      Mane
      Miki

      1. Big P
        9 years, 1 month ago

        THIS

    3. Pieterke30
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Kane
      Alli
      Salah
      Pogba

    4. MTPockets
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Lukaku, Alli, Salah, Mkhi

    5. F4L
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Lukaku
      Alli
      Salah
      Pogba

    6. bojack
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Kane
      Eriksen
      Mané
      Mkhi

      fwiw

    7. Qaiss
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Lukaku
      Alli
      Salah
      Pogba

    8. Sánchez
      9 years, 1 month ago

      The left hand side

    9. Doosra - ☭BowenOfRice☭
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Both
      Eriksen
      Mané & Coutinho
      Huh? 😀

    10. Recoba
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Kane
      Eriksen
      Mane
      Pogba

      1. FPL Maldini
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Kane
        Alli
        Mané
        Pogba

    11. AllanM
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Kane
      Erik
      Mane
      Pogba

    12. ALegendJ
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Lukaku
      Alli
      Salah
      Pogba

    13. ***00tennis***
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Kane
      Alli
      Salah
      Pogba

  3. F4L
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Whats the Ox celebrating in the article picture? It cant be a win, because he plays for Arsenal, and it cant be a goal, because he doesn't do those. So what is it?

    1. Hibbo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      9 years, 1 month ago

      He was holding up a pair of Perry's dirty knickers but they've been photoshopped out.

    2. Galza
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Getting out of the Emirates...

    3. Nascimento
      9 years, 1 month ago

      I'd be surprised if Arsenal managed to finish in the top 4 for 20 consecutive seasons without winning a game. Ox played for them for several of those.

      1. tafrère
        9 years, 1 month ago

        They finished 5th last year.

        1. Nascimento
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Yeah I know they did. Which is why I said for 20 consecutive seasons rather than the last 20 seasons

          1. Nascimento
            9 years, 1 month ago

            Consecutive just means in a row

    4. bojack
      9 years, 1 month ago

      He'd been worrying all game that he'd left the oven on but suddenly remembered the he hadn't.

  4. FPLAdmiral
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Tough one but A or B chaps?

    (A) Kane, Mkhi, Pogba
    (B) Lukaku, Eriksen, Alli

    1. I Member
      9 years, 1 month ago

      B but it's like 2m more expensive.

      1. I Member
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Could be the difference between a 5m defender and Alonso which would swing it in A's favour imo.

    2. F4L
      9 years, 1 month ago

      B ofc

    3. MTPockets
      9 years, 1 month ago

      b

    4. ALegendJ
      9 years, 1 month ago

      B

  5. danlynch13
    9 years, 1 month ago

    What's better
    A)Alli and Firmino
    B)Kane and Brady

    1. I Member
      9 years, 1 month ago

      A

    2. F4L
      9 years, 1 month ago

      A

    3. MTPockets
      9 years, 1 month ago

      a

    4. ALegendJ
      9 years, 1 month ago

      A

    5. Squires FC
      9 years, 1 month ago

      A

  6. Scotty B
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Foster
    Cedric Naughton Jones Alonso
    Salah Pogba Eriksen
    Lukaku Morata Firmino

    Elliot Carroll Chalobah Mbemba

    0.1 ITB. Is there anything I should consider changing?

    1. F4L
      9 years, 1 month ago

      safe team, like it

    2. Squires FC
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Solid

  7. @chapellefpl OR 577TH
    9 years, 1 month ago

    GGG VS CANELO.

    Going to be a blockbuster can't wait. Expected PPV over 3 million.

    If Triple G knocks out Canelo early he's got a chance if the fight starts to go the distance Canelo has a much higher punch rate and will win on points

    Either way it's a guaranteed blockbuster.

    1. Flaming Flamingo
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Will be a great fight no doubt, but there is no way in hell they'll get anywhere near 3 million PPVs 😛

    2. Sánchez
      9 years, 1 month ago

      I'm going Alvarez to win this.
      I think Golovkin is really overrated.
      Yes he's never lost, but his unbeaten record is a bit like Celtic's in Scotland.
      Unbeaten against very poor opposition.
      Never once faced anything near a dangerous opponent (until this)
      Which, at 35, is pathetic.
      Only kell brook (blown up 2 weights)
      Alvarez one loss to Mayweather, no shame at all.
      But his wins are against a far higher standard than Golovkins
      Cotto, Khan, Lara, Mosley, Kirkland, Cintron, Baldomir, Chavez Jr
      Good level of opposition. Beats anything GGGs fought

      1. @chapellefpl OR 577TH
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Agreed but I still think GGG is really good and his punching power is phenomenal. Although his fight with Brook exposed him. I'm going with Canelo too with a points decision.

        1. Sánchez
          9 years, 1 month ago

          He's good. But he's always got away with the easy option when winning a title.
          He currently has all the belts but Alvarez is still the actual middleweight champion in lineal (real) terms as he took the tougher fights.

          Hopkins unified the 4 titles in a tournament years ago with Trinidad Joppy and Keith Holmes. After that, Jermaine Taylor beat him, the Kelly Pavlik beat him, then Martinez beat him and Cotto beat Martinez.

          Alvarez then beat Cotto, so in real terms, he's undisputed champion.

          GGG holds a pile of alphabet titles by beating nobodies who never won their titles in the ring

      2. Flaming Flamingo
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Golovkin is good enough that Canelo chose to give him his belt rather than fight him a few years ago. The only reason he accepted the fight now is due to fan pressure and the hope that Golovkin has declined. I agree that Canelo has fought better opposition generally speaking, however for the most part he tends to fight people who are either past it or much smaller, if not both. Nevertheless, he is very skilled and it should be a great fight 🙂

        1. Sánchez
          9 years, 1 month ago

          You believe that? Canelo has fought far too many quality opponents for it to be true.
          Just look at who Golovkin has fought. And look into when he called out anyone from 154-168 and see what happened when Andre Ward accepted that challenge

          1. Flaming Flamingo
            9 years, 1 month ago

            It is true, at least as of late. Canelo's last three fights have been a joke and he has done everything humanly possible to avoid Golovkin or any other legitimate middlewight ever since he beat Cotto, who himself is a welterweight.

            As for GGG, he has always said his goal was to unify the division and a fight between him and Ward, who hasn't even fought at 168 in several years, was never realistic.

            1. Sánchez
              9 years, 1 month ago

              He did say 154-168 though
              This was years ago
              When ward was 168

              1. Flaming Flamingo
                9 years, 1 month ago

                In any case, it seems a bit harsh to knock him for not fighting people in the weight class above. Especially considering Canelo wasn't even willing to fight people in his own weight class 😛

                1. Sánchez
                  9 years, 1 month ago

                  Surely you can't be serious with that? Alvarez has fought much tougher competition than Golovkin. Golovkin hasn't really fought anyone at his own weight of any note

      3. Hibbo
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        9 years, 1 month ago

        I think Golovkin will stop Alvarez in the latter rounds.

        Canelo is having to put on false size and GG is still the bigger & stronger man.

        Alvarez has been in with the better standard opponent but let's face it he's a draw, now with Mayweather gone the biggest PPV draw in the sport with maybe Joshua. GGG on the other hand is the dangerous opponent and you make less money to get in the ring to risk getting KO'd.

        Canelo has been dodging him a few years now himself. It's not like GGG is fresh in the scene he's over 5 years in the States and the best don't want to fight him.

        I think he's the fresh man for his age too, not many rounds racked up due to his knockout record and on the flip side Alvarez has been fighting since 15yrs old. I saw chat of GGG too old in places and Alvarez prime but in boxing terms GGG a fresh man.

        GGG late stoppage I think I'll go 10-12 round group.

        1. Sánchez
          9 years, 1 month ago

          GGG is very fresh for his age.
          Mainly because he's only fought opponents who haven't been near his level
          He holds all the advantages here. Size, power, etc. And he is bookies favorite.
          I just think the whole hype about people ducking him has been a lot of lies.
          These other fighters all fight each other and duck no one.
          The only guy whose fought easy fights is then claiming its because all these other warriors are duckers?
          Not having it. Boxers in general aren't like that, let alone all of them

          1. Hibbo
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            9 years, 1 month ago

            If that is what you think that's fine man.

            In reality I think certainly boxers at times will time their fights. Mayweather didnt really want to fight Pac in his prime but he fought him in the end. When Pac was on the decline. Also maybe it isn't the boxer himself preventing a bout as I referred to purse above, boxing is complicated with teams managers promotors TV networks and sometimes business will also get in the way of certain fights happening. And I think that has been the case with GGG as in times gone by he hasn't been a big purse.

            I'm looking forward to the fight and I have a lot of time for both fighters.

            For me Golovkin has big big pedigree, former amateur world champion, Olympic silver. Does his record look padded? Yeah, sure. But he's beat what's in front of him. You use the Celtic analogy, maybe Alvarez will be Inter Milan on September 16th and maybe you might think completely differently about him.

            *I like amateur boxing I've been watching the world finals all week.*

      4. fedolefan
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Yeah, GGG leaves himself open to a fair amount of punches, which maybe a problem given Canelo's power but his aggressive always on the front foot style will need adjusting to by Canelo. Not as straightforward in my opinion and GGG has a chin. Canelo should have had a loss against Lara too.

        1. Sánchez
          9 years, 1 month ago

          It's going to go the distance and it will be really really close I think. One of those where the judges could fairly give it either way.
          Golovkins chin is as good as they come probably. I think he might just struggle with the fact an opponent isn't just lined up for an easy beating for once.
          Canelo has had that before

    3. Nascimento
      9 years, 1 month ago

      You were on your knees for 'nick' a minute ago, Chantelle - now you're telling us you're a boxing fan?

    4. J ⚒ Gimme ur Mané
      9 years, 1 month ago

      I'm going Alvarez. Don't rate GGG as much as Albert, I think he will win on points.

      It's off topic, but I just want to see Anthony Joshua vs Deontay Wilder!

      1. Fantasy Gold
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Joshua would spark him inside 3 rounds.

        Wilder massively overrated

  8. EDEN THE MAN
    9 years, 1 month ago

    RMWCT

    Foster-Elliot
    Alonso-Jones-Cedric-Naughton-Mee
    Eriksen-Salah-Mhki-Pogba-Chalobah
    Kane-Firmino-Calvert-Lewin

    Will rotate between 4-3-3 and 3-4-3 or just sod Calvert-Lewin?

    Any response would be greatly appreciated.

    1. F4L
      9 years, 1 month ago

      CL is a waste of money imo, even if he is just a bench warmer. Rest looks good

      1. EDEN THE MAN
        9 years, 1 month ago

        What would you suggest?

        1. F4L
          9 years, 1 month ago

          CL down to a 4.5 striker, then upgrade Naughton or Mee

          1. F4L
            9 years, 1 month ago

            or Chalobah to Atsu

            1. EDEN THE MAN
              9 years, 1 month ago

              Cheers. U gettin Fifa18?

              1. F4L
                9 years, 1 month ago

                September 29th. Cant wait to get my teeth into it tbh. How about you?

  9. N00B
    9 years, 1 month ago

    How is this WC team without Mkhitaryan?

    Fabianski Elliot
    Jones Cedric Dawson Mee Mbemba
    Alli Salah Ramsey Brady Carroll
    Kane Lukaku Firmino

    1. F4L
      9 years, 1 month ago

      weak midfield; too weak for my liking tbh

  10. foreverton
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Should I captain Sanchez this week?

    1. Galza
      9 years, 1 month ago

      I've got him in..
      Won't captain him this week or against Chelsea but the next 2 are Brom and Brighton.... He will own that armband for those..

  11. We Will Klopp you
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Guys, who's the better 4.5m def to go with out of Naughton and Mee? will be rotating with Clark of Newcastle

    1. Cheltnamshire LaLaLa
      9 years, 1 month ago

      I have mee and bit worried hes headibg for price drop

    2. MTPockets
      9 years, 1 month ago

      From memory I think their relative rotatability works out about the same for a while, so would just pick the more promising player. Personally think that's Naughton atm.

      1. We Will Klopp you
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Thanks for your input both, will go with Naughton. @Cheltenamshire, Mee should be fine as long as he keeps a cleanie vs Palace

        1. MTPockets
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Just had a look and Swansea's H/A switches in GW9.
          Burnley's does the same in GW13 (and Newcastle in GW15).

          So if H/A rotation is major factor long term Mee might be better - should probably take a look at fixtures.

          1. We Will Klopp you
            9 years, 1 month ago

            Will do, always best to avoid defensive transfers if you can, many thanks MTpockets

    3. ***00tennis***
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Naughton unless Fabianski in goal then Mee

  12. thorvaldsson
    9 years, 1 month ago

    For Aguero/ Mane should I swap to Firmino/Hazard?

  13. pakornk
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Daniels dropping tonight?

    1. andy85wsm
      • Has Moderation Rights
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Jeez...

      Thought the goal against Man City would have been enough to halt sales

      1. FPL Virgin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        9 years, 1 month ago

        What are you doing about Daniels, Andy? Taking the price drop?

        1. andy85wsm
          • Has Moderation Rights
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Yup, Brighton (h) soon.

          1. FPL Virgin
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            9 years, 1 month ago

            Poor Jonty with his Ake pick ...

            😆

  14. FPL Maldini
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Is Sanchez playing for Chile at the mo?

    Might be worth monitoring his motivation in that game if so

    1. CloudSky
      9 years, 1 month ago

      They played 2 days ago. Lost at home to Paraguay 0:3. Played 90. Next game on Tuesday I think.

    2. Norman Conquest
      9 years, 1 month ago

      they got beat 3-0 by paraguay on thursday sanchez played the full match

    3. Qaiss
      9 years, 1 month ago

      I watched the match. He didn't play that well. In all honesty though, I don't think he's a good pick for FPL this year. He clearly doesn't wanna be at club and so may not give his all. Better option from Arsenal is Lacazette imo.

  15. SuperDan
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Pick One:
    A) Mooy
    B) Richarlison

    1. KGFC
      9 years, 1 month ago

      A - Richarlison not nailed on with Pereyra expected back.

      1. SuperDan
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Hmm didnt know that

        1. @BigChrisso
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Bollocks. He's nailed

    2. Union_Jacks
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Brady

  16. andy85wsm
    • Has Moderation Rights
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Anyone getting Destiny 2?

    1. Hobolicious
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Contemplating it. Unfortunately I was not able to play in the Open Beta.

      Did you test it in the Beta?

      1. andy85wsm
        • Has Moderation Rights
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Nah, didn't bother this time around, barely been playing games in recent months.

        Getting caught in the hype now plus I did like the first for a while and I have an Amazon voucher 🙂

        1. Hobolicious
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Understandable. I never got around to playing the first one, but have a few friends that are keen on trying out Destiny 2.

          I barely play video games because of work now, but do like an odd game now and then to get my mind off things.

  17. KGFC
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Pick the best?

    1. Jones + Mane + 4.5m mid (4th mid)
    2. Jones + Salah + 5m mid (4th mid)
    3. Salah + Lowe + Brady (4th mid)

    1. Stat Sloth
      9 years, 1 month ago

      2. Atsu

  18. EDEN THE MAN
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Got 0.5m on WC

    Should I use it to do...

    Chalobah to Atsu

    Or

    Mee to 5.0?

    Cheers

    1. AllanM
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Mee to Andy Robertson

    2. Stat Sloth
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Chalobah to Atsu.

  19. Rogue Todd
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Does anyone watch eSports? I just tried it with an open mind, but just didn't get how Streetfighter is a spectator sport.

    1. andy85wsm
      • Has Moderation Rights
      9 years, 1 month ago

      I have watched some yeah, I don't watch it as much as football but it can be fun to watch.

      I like FIFA eSports and when I was into Hearthstone I watched their tournaments.

      Heroes of the Storm is fun to watch but I don't really know what's going on.

      Generally I find when I'm really into the game itself the eSports is a lot easier to watch and you can learn a lot.

      1. Rogue Todd
        9 years, 1 month ago

        I suppose FIFA would be ok as it is just like watching a football match. Streetfighter though is just a flurry and you don't know whether to watch the "action" or the health bar.

        1. andy85wsm
          • Has Moderation Rights
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Do you play video games in general?

          1. Rogue Todd
            9 years, 1 month ago

            Not since the late 90s!

            1. andy85wsm
              • Has Moderation Rights
              9 years, 1 month ago

              Then eSports will be much harder to get into.

              I have friends who watch them for games they don't play but for the most part it's much easier if you're playing the games imo

    2. Galza
      9 years, 1 month ago

      I haven't seen any of it..
      I tell you what I have watched a bit of and find quite good is that Drone Racing League...
      Need some skill to fly one of those..

      1. Sánchez
        9 years, 1 month ago

        What? Is this really a thing?

        1. Galza
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Yeah. DRL. They show it on sky sports mix..
          They where head sets that are linked to a camera on front of their drone and race them around some amazing courses...
          Check it out..

          1. Galza
            9 years, 1 month ago

            *wear

    3. Team Cruel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Streetfigher is all about hitting as many buttons on the control in the shortest possible time.

      1. andy85wsm
        • Has Moderation Rights
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Not sure the eSports guys would say the same 🙂

        1. Team Cruel
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          9 years, 1 month ago

          No and that's fair enough. Not a fan of esports but got no problem understanding there is a market for it.

    4. Hobolicious
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Yes, but only CSGO nowadays. Dreamhack Malmö going at the moment. Semis and final tomorrow.

      1. Rogue Todd
        9 years, 1 month ago

        I have no idea what any of that means 😆

        1. andy85wsm
          • Has Moderation Rights
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Counter strike Go.

          Dreamhack is a big lan event in Malmo, Sweden 🙂

        2. Hobolicious
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Counter-Strike:Global Offensive. Basically a shooting game where you play terrorists versus counter-terrorists. 5 people per team. The objective is to win rounds by either eliminating the opponent or by bombing different places on the map (or defusing the bomb if you are on the counter-terrorist team).

    5. MTPockets
      9 years, 1 month ago

      I don't even get why friends need facebook.

      1. Sánchez
        9 years, 1 month ago

        How do I upvote this comment twice?

    6. CloudSky
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Watch Smite regularly (as Im playing it) and LoL, CsGo and Dota for the major events.

      It helps a lot if you are familiar with the game. Would probably start with CS or Fifa in your place, they are easy to understand and especially CS is a spectacle to watch.

    7. Sánchez
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Someone on here once argued that any game people play competitively that requires a skill is a sport.
      This was to defend the likes of darts, snooker, chess, F1, that dancing horses thing and synchronised swimming etc as "sports"
      Someone then threw in "what about eSports then" as they require skill but not fitness and are competitive.
      I now use that in the what's not a sport debate too

      1. Rogue Todd
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Does that make Countdown a sport?

        1. Sánchez
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Or pie eating competitions

      2. Team Cruel
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        9 years, 1 month ago

        F1 doesn't require fitness? Got to be the worst thing I've read all week if that's what you meant.

        1. Sánchez
          9 years, 1 month ago

          If I race a fat guy in a car race, the fat guy would win if he has a ferrari and i have an old lada

          If i race the same fat guy in a 10k on foot, I always win

          That's when you see which is a sport

          1. Sánchez
            9 years, 1 month ago

            F1 is a skill and a science.
            Team game yes. But its about having the best engineering. Not the fittest driver

          2. Team Cruel
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            9 years, 1 month ago

            Poor analogy. There are about 50-60 people in the world that are fit enough and capable of driving a F1 car. You make it sound like almost anyone in the world can actually be competitive if given the right car, totally ignoring the dynamics required to be competitive with such a car.

            1. fedolefan
              9 years, 1 month ago

              Agreed. In a sport where every tenth of a second matters, every mistake means a race is over, the emphasis on focus and fitness is that much more important.

            2. Sánchez
              9 years, 1 month ago

              Hardly anyone ever tries
              And you need huge wealth to even get near it to start with

  20. Gabbiadini
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Morata, Pogba, Salah and Naughton

    Or...

    Chicharito, Eriksen, Mane and Bertrand

    1. Union_Jacks
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Looks like you wouldn't really go wrong with either

      1. Gabbiadini
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Feel like B adds a bit more balance and spread to my squad.

        1. Stat Sloth
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Morata will outscore Chicha in the upcoming games.

    2. ***00tennis***
      9 years, 1 month ago

      1st option by quite a bit for me

  21. Qaiss
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Hows this for a WC team?

    Foster - Elliot

    Cedric - Bellerin - Jones (Mbemba - Morgan)

    Eriksen - Pogba - Alli - Atsu

    Firmino - Lacazette - Lukaku

    1. Stat Sloth
      9 years, 1 month ago

      azum.

      Except that you probably need another midfielder somewhere.

      1. Qaiss
        9 years, 1 month ago

        The 5th is Tom Carroll ;D

        1. Stat Sloth
          9 years, 1 month ago

          So, bench fodder, then.

          Are you by any chance an Arsenal fan? Most people would stay away from their players after the last abysmal result, and how deadline day ended.

          1. Qaiss
            9 years, 1 month ago

            I am. Just think its typical Arsenal to go on a run now. Next few games apart from Chelsea look good. I don't think ill have Bellerin in my team and will look elsewhere but I definitely would like Lacazette. As you said though, 'most' people, on here especially would stay away from them, because they are sheep and don't have their own views. My view is that Arsenal have a good run of games coming up, so why not have their players?

            1. Stat Sloth
              9 years, 1 month ago

              Leaving out Bellerin is probably wise, as their defense needs to be sorted out. Won't happen for at least 2-3 games.

              Lacazette is not bad, not at all. But don't you think there will be more rotation to test players? Wenger loves Welbeck. And Sanchez needs to be played or he will be pissed. And Giroud needs his minutes too.

              1. Qaiss
                9 years, 1 month ago

                Lacazette will start all games in the Premier league from now on. Liverpool was a one off and a big mistake on Wenger's part. He's our record signing and the highest earner at the club, plus if Wenger leaves him out, fans will be annoyed. Welbeck and Giroud will get their minutes in the Europa league as Wenger said himself he will concentrate fully on the Premier League this season.

  22. Stat Sloth
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Allrighty then,

    who would be your forward of choice alongside Morata and Firmino with a maximum budget of 9.0m? Anything goes.

    (mid consists of Silva, Hazard, Mane, Mikhi and Chalobah)

    1. Netley Lucas
      9 years, 1 month ago

      For 9 the value is Salah in a 3-5-2

      1. Stat Sloth
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Haha, Netley, so you think I should go three out of three on the Liverpool trio?

        1. Netley Lucas
          9 years, 1 month ago

          It feels wrong but atm it's right

          1. Stat Sloth
            9 years, 1 month ago

            Yeah, I know what you mean. The best option I can find at below 9m besides the two I've got is Roo. And his two next games are horrible. As well as his drunk driving, which might have consequences for his starting chances in the next game. Perhaps I'll go Calvert and Salah

  23. N00B
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Will Salah rise tonight ?

    1. Netley Lucas
      9 years, 1 month ago

      No

  24. George Sillett
    9 years, 1 month ago

    E sports . Come on its a joke .

    1. Sánchez
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Bookies actually offer odds on this stuff
      Must be so easy and tempting to rig it

      1. andy85wsm
        • Has Moderation Rights
        9 years, 1 month ago

        No different to sport in that regard

        1. Sánchez
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Aye. But could anyone ever spot when somebody takes a dive at street fighter?
          And would anyone even be watching?

          1. andy85wsm
            • Has Moderation Rights
            9 years, 1 month ago

            eSports is huge so plenty of people watch.

            You wouldn't know if someone had taken a dive necessarily but you probably don't realise stuff like that in "real" sports either for the most part

            1. George Sillett
              9 years, 1 month ago

              It's pure nonsense for me. Cheats generally get found out in real sport ( Steven Lee) go name but one and there will be further crackdowns. Bookie fodder is a dangerous beast.

            2. Sánchez
              9 years, 1 month ago

              Whose the best e-sporter?

              1. andy85wsm
                • Has Moderation Rights
                9 years, 1 month ago

                That varies for different games 🙂

                1. Sánchez
                  9 years, 1 month ago

                  Best at Knockout Kings 99 then

                  1. Sánchez
                    9 years, 1 month ago

                    Or Fifa 98 (the last good fifa)

                    1. andy85wsm
                      • Has Moderation Rights
                      9 years, 1 month ago

                      Now you're being silly 🙂

                      1. Sánchez
                        9 years, 1 month ago

                        😀

                        Ok. Well who's like the biggest name in eSport?

                        Like the Messi of all of eSports?

                      2. Rogue Todd
                        9 years, 1 month ago

                        I remember that Dave Perry dude with the bandana on Gamesmaster

                      3. Cheeseoid
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        9 years, 1 month ago

                        Hahahhahah. So do I

                      4. andy85wsm
                        • Has Moderation Rights
                        9 years, 1 month ago

                        This guy won the last big FIFA 17 tournament - https://twitter.com/Gorilla_Unilad

                        Wouldn't be a big name for eSports in general, would be different per eSport

                      5. Sánchez
                        9 years, 1 month ago

                        That must be like the pre-codification era. Bare Knuckle esports

                      6. CloudSky
                        9 years, 1 month ago

                        Faker of League of Legends, by a country mile.

                      7. CloudSky
                        9 years, 1 month ago

                        The case for 2nd can be made. Universe, coldzera, Bjergsen, Dendi,... plenty of options.

  25. Gabbiadini
    9 years, 1 month ago

    best 4.5m midfielder duo to sit on the bench..!?

    1. Stat Sloth
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Chalobah and Carroll.

      1. Squires FC
        9 years, 1 month ago

        This

    2. IWR
      9 years, 1 month ago

      RLC if fit.

  26. james_lebron
    9 years, 1 month ago

    My WC team atm, also have 2.2 ITB, how can I improve this team?

    Foster (Elliot)

    Alonso - Jones - Cedric - Naughton (Simpson)

    Alli - Salah - Pogba - Brady (Carroll)

    Kane - Firmino (Abraham)

    Could potentially go Kane and Alonso down to Lukaku and Davies which will enable me to get Morata, but having No Alonso or Kane does worry me

    1. Stat Sloth
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Upgrade Simpson, Carroll and Abraham to someone you might actually rotate in.

      I.e. Schindler, Mooy, Calvert.

      1. james_lebron
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Whats wrong with Simpson? was planning to rotate him with Naughton

    2. ***00tennis***
      9 years, 1 month ago

      i would.......

      Jones(surely injury waiting to happen + MUN cant keep cleanies every week-can they?>> Davies....Rose not coming back for a cple of weeks, then can Davies>>Aurier when he does as great fixtures

      would not lose Alons0 as he will be GOLD

      Also prefer Fabianski to Foster but if you set on Naughton maybe Forster

  27. Bruno Bruno!!
    9 years, 1 month ago

    The plan is Lukaku to Kane in GW5 am I carzy ??

    1. Stat Sloth
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Carzy as hell...

    2. AllanM
      9 years, 1 month ago

      If you have Pogba not the worst idea.

    3. Jafalad
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Absolutely. A front three of Kane, Lukaku and Firmino is your priority at this stage.

      1. andy85wsm
        • Has Moderation Rights
        9 years, 1 month ago

        With I had a good way to get Firmino 🙁

        1. Jafalad
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Make it happen 😉

          1. andy85wsm
            • Has Moderation Rights
            9 years, 1 month ago

            I can't really without multiple transfers or dropping one of my attackers:

            Foster - Elliot
            Betrand - Daniels - Stephens - Suttner - Long
            Eriksen - Salah - Mkhitaryan - Atsu - Carroll
            Kane - Lukaku - Gabbiadini

    4. @BigChrisso
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Think it's a sound idea

    5. Squires FC
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Can see spurs smashing everton

  28. Scotty B
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Do we think Salah could be rested on Saturday due to international commitments and midweek CL game ?

    1. Qaiss
      9 years, 1 month ago

      No, they are playing Man City.

    2. Stat Sloth
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Hard to say who will be rested. Depends on the tactics Klopp sets up for the CL game.

    3. AllanM
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Not against Man City. Strongest team will be out.

    4. @BigChrisso
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Possible. Firmino could be due after long trip back from sth America also

    5. Jafalad
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Who knows. Stay clear from Liverpud milfs imo.

    6. Squires FC
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Strongest 11 will start I reckon

  29. @BigChrisso
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Have a look at some of the top teams so far in FPL and you'll notice a common link between them. Kop that

    1. Big P
      9 years, 1 month ago

      No Kane, but it won't last

      1. @BigChrisso
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Liverpool triple up.

  30. acidicleo
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Kane + Mounie > Firmino + Morata (Have got Kaku)

    Yay or Nay?

    1. AllanM
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Yay.

      Have a plan to bring him back or get Erik/Ali when Spurs get going.

    2. Squires FC
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Yea