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The 2018 World Cup knockout stages get underway at 3pm today, as Argentina take on France in Kazan.

While Didier Deschamps’ side coasted to top spot in Group C, qualifying for the last 16 with a match to spare, Lionel Messi and co. almost failed to progress from the group stage: Marcos Rojo’s 86th-minute winner in Argentina’s final Group D fixture against Nigeria finally saw the 2014 runners-up through.

Argentina’s insipid displays so far have been reflected in their players’ popularity among Fantasy managers. Messi (£11.9m), whose ownership of 17.2% is at its lowest of the tournament, is the only Argentinean player to be selected by more than 10% of those playing McDonald’s FIFA.

Nicolas Otamendi (£5.9m) is the next most-owned Fantasy asset from this Argentina squad, but faith in the Manchester City centre-back – who is included in 4.7% of Fantasy teams – and his fellow defenders is dwindling after three successive World Cup matches without a clean sheet.

France, who were unbeaten in their three group matches, are more widely favoured by McDonald’s FIFA managers.

Curiously, N’Golo Kante (£6.0m) is the most-owned player on show this afternoon. The defensive midfielder finds himself in 18% of Fantasy sides, despite the obvious lack of goal threat.

With qualification already assured, Deschamps made six changes to his side for the final group match against Denmark. Antoine Griezmann (£10.0m) and Raphael Varane (£6.0m), the next most-owned French assets, played in the 0-0 draw with the Danes, however, with mixed fortunes. While Varane banked his second successive clean sheet, Griezmann blanked – the Atletico Madrid forward is now owned by only 15.5% of Fantasy bosses, having started the tournament in over a quarter of our squads.

Hugo Lloris (£6.0m), one of the players rested by Deschamps for the Denmark match, is owned by 9.8% of those who are playing McDonald’s FIFA.

While Les Bleus’ backline has been solid, their talent up top has so far failed to sparkle: no side who progressed to the knockout rounds has had fewer big chances. Kylian Mbappe (£9.0m) is the only French player to have scored from open play, meanwhile.

Argentina have also only managed to score at a rate of one goal per match, while their defence has been far from watertight: no side who qualified for the last 16 conceded more goals (five) or big chances (seven) than Jorge Sampaoli’s side.

France XI (4-3-3): Lloris; Pavard, Varane, Umtiti, Hernandez; Kante, Pogba, Matuidi; Mbappe, Griezmann, Giroud

Argentina XI (4-3-3): Armani; Mercado, Tagliafico, Rojo, Otamendi; Banega, Perez, Mascherano; Di Maria, Pavon, Messi

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  1. Sandy Ravage
    • 10 Years
    7 years, 9 months ago

    0-0 Muslera to save Ronaldo penalty

  2. Azathoth
    • 11 Years
    7 years, 9 months ago

    Otamendi is a bloody thug.....

  3. Cok3y5murf
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 9 months ago

    Keep reading that Messi picked the team.

    Is this pure speculation or is there actually a source?

    1. Louis_Sans_Balls
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      think it's pretty spot on

      1. Cok3y5murf
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        You think based on...?

        1. Louis_Sans_Balls
          • 7 Years
          7 years, 9 months ago

          multiple credible sources confirming the same, I'm sure a simple google search will turn up plenty if you seem so obliged. Plus reported on all major sport networks

  4. St. Joseph
    • 10 Years
    7 years, 9 months ago

    Messi 8 pt.
    Stick or twist to isco / modric?

    1. Red Dagger ✪
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Twisting for the win....

    2. Zilla
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Sticking.

    3. ★Kuntheman★
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Sticking. Argentina is the only team woeful enough to have such an open game

  5. FPL Virgin
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 9 months ago

    No community allowed.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/LetsTalk_FPL/status/1013089795390746624

    This is not how they do it on The Gaffer Tapes.

    #Elitist #GentlemansClub

    Hopefully our membership fees covered the cost of the bubbly.

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      When is the Gaffer event?

      1. FPL Virgin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        Craig Hazell is organising.

        1. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 16 Years
          7 years, 9 months ago

          Who is he? Best FPL rank?

          1. FPL Virgin
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            7 years, 9 months ago

            He's a comedian. The Gaffer Tapes is about the bantz; not the rank.

            1. TorresMagic™
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • Has Moderation Rights
              • 16 Years
              7 years, 9 months ago

              Once was enough for me.

              1. FPL Virgin
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 9 Years
                7 years, 9 months ago

                Why aren't bread and butter members of the community who have so much affection for FFS invited to scoutcamp?

                1. TorresMagic™
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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                  • 16 Years
                  7 years, 9 months ago

                  They might have too much.

                  1. FPL Virgin
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 9 Years
                    7 years, 9 months ago

                    It's a poor show.

                    Not very inclusive at all.

                    1. Deulofail
                      • 10 Years
                      7 years, 9 months ago

                      Stop it

                      1. FPL Virgin
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 9 Years
                        7 years, 9 months ago

                        I'm genuinely disappointed. I would have loved to have had a pint with some of the guys.

                      2. Deulofail
                        • 10 Years
                        7 years, 9 months ago

                        Being a loser on a comment section doesn't entitle us to have a pint with anyone. What world do you live in?

    2. Red Dagger ✪
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      I like the Gaffer Tapes. Are you involved with that pod?

      1. FPL Virgin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        Nope, just listen. The advice is poor, but it's a funny pod, isn't it?

        1. Red Dagger ✪
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 9 months ago

          Yeah the advice is a bit naff but it's a great listen.

          1. FPL Virgin
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            7 years, 9 months ago

            Very blue, thou ...

    3. Pumpkinhead - I'm ITK …
      • 16 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Who are they? Don't recognise any of them

      1. FPL Virgin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        Mods and cons. The chosen few.

  6. Fred54
    • 11 Years
    7 years, 9 months ago

    Who did you have for this match and who have you got left in the next game tonight?

    Pavon (C...I know heh) and Pavard. No one in next game.

    1. dunas_dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Mbappe (c) with Godin and Bentancur to come

    2. Debauchy
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Pavard , Godin c next

    3. Red Dagger ✪
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Godin tripple cap.

      1. Red Dagger ✪
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        And Pavard.

    4. themachine
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      mbappe (c), bentancur & muslera to go...

    5. Krafty Werks
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Mbappe(c) & Pavard, Muslera & Bentancur to go.

    6. Pumpkinhead - I'm ITK …
      • 16 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Pavon C like you mate. I've not got a 50 50 decision right all game so no one expect anything from Uruguay keeper

  7. dunas_dog
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    7 years, 9 months ago

    Who scores more

    A Suarez
    B Ronaldo

    1. IAWC ( It's a Wonderfu…
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Draw

    2. Red Dagger ✪
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Suarez.

  8. pablo discobar
    • 16 Years
    7 years, 9 months ago

    Mbabbe twist or stick? Probably going to stick rather than chance lolkaku.

    It's coming home

    1. Cok3y5murf
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Stick of course.

    2. _Make
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Obviously stick. A hat trick would only be worth 4 more points after doubling.

    3. dunas_dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Stick

  9. Louis_Sans_Balls
    • 7 Years
    7 years, 9 months ago

    Good lad that Mbappe, giving up his wages for charity. I will be rooting for him from here on out

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/world-cup-2018/6660664/kylian-mbappe-france-match-fee-charity-money/

    1. Fred54
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      England players have been donating there match fees for sometime as well.

      1. Louis_Sans_Balls
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        It's refreshing to see such selflessness from a youngster these days
        Can you say MBAPPE?

    2. Pumpkinhead - I'm ITK …
      • 16 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Top man.

  10. Zilla
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 9 months ago

    This next match will probably be a borefest.

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      • 16 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Don't mind if Portugal win.

  11. _Make
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 9 months ago

    When are mBAPs going to be added?

  12. Mr. Jenkins
    • 11 Years
    7 years, 9 months ago

    Mbappa in for Messi?

    1. Rainer
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Whether its Uruguay or Portugal he wont be getting that space to exploit.

      He'll be top of everyone's list but see what the next few days bring first.

      1. Mr. Jenkins
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        Good point

    2. ★Kuntheman★
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Im looking at Kane if England progress

      1. Mr. Jenkins
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        Already got him

      2. FDMS All Starz
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        Why not Kane already? Saves a transfer and gives a cap for the last day

    3. Viiksisika
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Griez is still better option.

  13. Krafty Werks
    • 11 Years
    7 years, 9 months ago

    Mbappe(c) & Pavard...mission accomplished.
    Muslera & Bentancur??...go Uruguay.

  14. ★Kuntheman★
    • 10 Years
    7 years, 9 months ago

    For those of you wondering where Argentina goes from here:
    -------------------Rulli---------------------
    Bustos-Conti-Mammana-Tagliafico
    -------Paredes--------Lo Celso--------
    --Dybala------Lanzini-------Pavon----
    ------------------Icardi---------------------
    Manager: Mauricio Pochettino

    Hopefully.

    1. Red Dagger ✪
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Much better looking team that.

    2. Rainer
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Messi still be the best player, if he's bothered to give it another lash.

      Lo Celso getting no minutes this tournament is a joke in itself, along with Dybala.

      1. ★Kuntheman★
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        Both of them should’ve been starters

    3. H-SF
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Pochettino going nowhere anytime soon

      1. ★Kuntheman★
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        Yeah him and Icardi are the more unlikely aspects of it

    4. Louis_Sans_Balls
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      no way Pochettino takes that job, keep dreaming

    5. Zilla
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Messi super sub?

    6. Ghost Gooner
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Ota Rojo Kun Messi Higuain Banega etc should be phased out gradually. Chucking youngsters in en masse is a recipe for disaster

  15. Boomerang V
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 9 months ago

    Mbappe captain B-)

    I still have Eriksen for day 2, Hazard for day 3 and Kane for day 4 but I will not twist.

    I am happy with my 24 points 🙂

    1. Krafty Werks
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Of course 12pts is more than enough!!

    2. OPTA FPL
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      it's 12p

    3. dunas_dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Same here

    4. Eden Wizard
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Crazy to think some people would actually use the words “24 points” and “twist” in the same post 😆

  16. CloudSky
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 9 months ago

    Poetry in motion. Pavardinho.

    https://t.co/Yb2prwV1er

    1. Rainer
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Makes Nacho's look like a tap-in.

    2. Eden Wizard
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Reward his owners! Beast - mode

  17. Mr. Jenkins
    • 11 Years
    7 years, 9 months ago

    Who to bring in for next round? Have Kane and Lukaku.

    Mbappe on my shortlist for now. Messi is the one im dropping

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      May as well see who qualifies.

      1. Louis_Sans_Balls
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        not a bad idea

      2. Mr. Jenkins
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        Thanks for the reply, but in my game i have price changes to consider aswell

        1. TorresMagic™
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          • 16 Years
          7 years, 9 months ago

          You don't score points from players who are knocked out.

          1. Mr. Jenkins
            • 11 Years
            7 years, 9 months ago

            Messi is out and Mbappe are trough. I dont get your point

            1. TorresMagic™
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              • 16 Years
              7 years, 9 months ago

              You might need 2 more forwards etc. Messi obviously has to go.
              Injuries/suspensions to defenders might make other forwards more enticing.

    2. IAWC ( It's a Wonderfu…
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Not sure on mbappe vs Uruguay .Wait till fixture s

      1. Mr. Jenkins
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        Thanks for the reply, but in my game i have price changes to consider aswell

  18. Louis_Sans_Balls
    • 7 Years
    7 years, 9 months ago

    Isco, Modric or Costa (C)?

    1. H-SF
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      This is my problem too

    2. Red Dagger ✪
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Costa against that Russian defense looks very tasty to me.

      1. Louis_Sans_Balls
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        yeah, fancy his chances more than Modric against that Denmark D
        Isco a decent shout too
        Think I'm gonna go with the C Man

        1. Red Dagger ✪
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 9 months ago

          I have all 3 also. Isco is a good shout but I think Costa will relish knocking that Russian D around.

          1. Louis_Sans_Balls
            • 7 Years
            7 years, 9 months ago

            cheers!

      2. Rasping Drive
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        He was harbage last round though

  19. Eden Wizard
    • 7 Years
    7 years, 9 months ago

    Pretty happy with sticking 6*2...lesson learned last week really! 6,5,6 captaincy the first three rounds

    1. Tempestic
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      For me I twisted off a 6 first round one to a 10 off Lukaku, and round 2 I switched from a 7 off Coutinho for a 16 off Kane. So its really payed off so far, 6 for me is not justified for a stick especially on the first day with so many other great captain options. Just my opinion though. So far I've gotten 20, 32, 14 off my captains.

      1. Tempestic
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        no first*

      2. Red Dagger ✪
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        Same. In fact round 2 i twisted from Lukaku (2 goals) to Kane (3 goals).

      3. Eden Wizard
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        Indeed but having scrambled for 2 days to get the 6 from salah I lost back haha

    2. Red Dagger ✪
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      I wouldn't stick on 6 but to each his own....

    3. squ1rrel
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Mbappe(c) for me haha.

  20. Tempestic
    • 7 Years
    7 years, 9 months ago

    Modric or Isco captain tomorrow?

  21. squ1rrel
    • 11 Years
    7 years, 9 months ago

    Surely I should stick with Mbappe(c)?

    1. noquarternt
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Lol

    2. Eden Wizard
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      You don’t deserve those points.

    3. ManLikeMeyler (Team Argenti…
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Nah, definitely switch

    4. Ask Yourself
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      No the Belgian’s will make you look stupid. If you stick you’ll be hoping your players don’t score more which is stupid. Be smart and twist

  22. Differential C (Mark)
    • 10 Years
    7 years, 9 months ago

    Just saw that di Maria was right behind Pavard for that shot.
    Cheeky!

  23. Mr. Jenkins
    • 11 Years
    7 years, 9 months ago

    Griezmann is better than Mbappe. Change myymind

    1. Red Dagger ✪
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      He isn't. There you go.

    2. Louis_Sans_Balls
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      can you say MBappe?!

  24. Louis_Sans_Balls
    • 7 Years
    7 years, 9 months ago

    19 pens so far this tourney, thought it was more

    1. Louis_Sans_Balls
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      VAR 99.3% correct? really?

    2. squ1rrel
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      I thought 25...

  25. TorresMagic™
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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    • 16 Years
    7 years, 9 months ago

    Best goal in this World Cup so far?

    1. Ask Yourself
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Pavard

    2. St. Joseph
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Harry kane and mercado's

    3. Louis_Sans_Balls
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Sommer's own goal

    4. Rainer
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Pavard's was perfection but I loved Ronaldo's 3rd vs Spain and Messi vs Nigeria for the technique and importance.

      Too hard of a question!

    5. ManLikeMeyler (Team Argenti…
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Mbappe Vs Peru

      1. ManLikeMeyler (Team Argenti…
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        No

    6. squ1rrel
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Kane heel deflection. Easy.

    7. Dr Van Nostrand
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Nacho's

    8. Brosstan
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Hazards or Messi VS nigeria

    9. Leaf
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Pavard
      Then Ronaldos free kick
      Lingard maybe 3rd

  26. dunas_dog
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    7 years, 9 months ago

    Do you see Suarez getting more than 1 goal?

    1. Ask Yourself
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      0 isn’t more than 1

    2. ManLikeMeyler (Team Argenti…
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      No

    3. Sadio
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      No but Cavani might

  27. Who are all Lukakus
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 9 months ago

    Score prediction: URU 2-1 POR with CR7 brace

    1. CloudSky
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Come again?

      1. Eden Wizard
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        Hahaha this - perhaps he means one at each end

        1. Who are all Lukakus
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 9 months ago

          You got the point. Should have said hattrick for CR7

    2. dunas_dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      1-0 Uruguay

    3. ManLikeMeyler (Team Argenti…
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      0-0 AET

    4. squ1rrel
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      1-0 Uruguay

  28. Brosstan
    • 11 Years
    7 years, 9 months ago

    Messi picked a terrible team,isolating himself until aguero came on.

    1. Ask Yourself
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Guedes is back interesting

    2. Eden Wizard
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Nandez time to shine

  29. Homo Neanderthalensis
    • 12 Years
    7 years, 9 months ago

    Which one if any would you go for:

    Uruguay To Qualify, Suarez & Ronaldo Both To Score, Pepe, Carvalho & Suarez To Be Booked @351.00

    Luis Suarez To Score In Both Halves, Each Team Over 1 Card, Over 12 Corners @181.00

    2-2 Draw At FT, 1-1 Draw At HT @67.00

    Luis Suarez & Cristiano Ronaldo Both To Score & Pepe & Jose Gimenez Both To Be Carded @51.00