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22 February 2023 516 comments
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Throughout the 2022/23 Fantasy Premier League (FPL) season, our team of Pro Pundits, Hall of Famers and guest contributors will be sharing their thoughts, tips and own transfer plans.

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Here, former champion Simon March looks at the players with infamous reputations in FPL.

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If you’ve played FPL for long enough, there’s a good chance that there is at least one player who, despite them seeming to perform well most of the time, and definitely for your rivals, they never quite seem to do it for you. The classic phrase in FPL circles is ‘I’ve been burned by them in the past’ and it’s a widely accepted justification to label that player ‘a troll’ and subsequently avoid them like the plague.

The problem is, most of the players who we individually label ‘trolls’ also somehow manage to be among the highest-scoring players in the game, if not for the whole season, then for parts of it at least. To write them off completely means we’re also writing off our chances of gaining those points.

So why, when we consider a player, do some of us see trolls while others see assets? Is it a bias and, if so, how do we overcome it? These questions will be the focus of this article.

Beware of Trolls

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Top of mind right now when it comes to this type of player is Manchester City’s Riyad Mahrez (£7.8m) who, due to his alleged ‘troll-like’ behaviour in the past (appearing to be a really good option before immediately losing all form or being unexpectedly dropped from the team altogether), was overlooked by many as an option ahead of City’s first of two recent Double Gameweeks. Unfortunately for those managers, Mahrez went on to score 40 points in his next four Gameweeks. Fortunately for those who did avoid him, he then got benched completely in Gameweek 24. So maybe they had a point.

But Mahrez is far from the only player with this reputation, Chelsea’s Reece James (£5.8m) is another contemporary FPL asset whose inevitable hauls appear to require monk-like patience and surgical precision in order to hit. Even Eden Hazard, one of the best FPL assets in recent memory, was tagged by some with the ‘troll’ label. 

For me, if you’re interested, that player was former Arsenal, Man City and West Ham United midfielder Samir Nasri, who I owned countless times throughout my FPL career, yet I somehow never managed to get as much as an assist out of him. All of these players are or were, statistically at least, good FPL assets. So why do they end up trolling us?

It’s our fault

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To some extent, the reason we label FPL players as trolls is down to us. Our personal experience of the world is only a fraction of what is actually going on, yet it tends to disproportionately influence how we perceive it. 

The same applies to FPL and, consequently, since we cannot own all the FPL players all of the time, our perceptions of FPL assets will be based heavily on our own personal experiences with them. If we owned a player and they frustrated us by blanking, we may well view that player as a ‘troll’. Since personal experience is usually a more powerful influence on our beliefs than objective data, we might be reluctant to ever own that player again, even if the stats suggest that they are a good asset and that we were just unfortunate at the time.

Of course, this works both ways and we might put undue faith in players who we did happen to own in their better moments. It’s for this exact reason that I have to often physically restrain myself from transferring in Aston Villa’s Danny Ings (£6.4m) because, if Ings actually scored in general at the level that he has somehow managed to score when I’ve owned him in FPL, he’d be talked about alongside the like of Lionel Messi and Gerd Muller. I think most of us have one or two of these ‘favourites’ for whom our soft spots aren’t quite accurate reflections of reality.

Finally, we have to factor in the possibility that, sometimes, we jump on players who we were simply wrong to put our faith in in the first place. Lots of players can go on a run of scoring points and it’s up to us to determine whether or not this is sustainable. If we transfer in a player who is somehow finishing every chance they take, for example, there’s a good chance that their run won’t continue and we’ll be disappointed. It’s unfair to label these players ‘trolls’ when, in reality, we’ve mostly trolled ourselves.

No, it’s their fault

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Certain players are, however, objectively more prone to troll-like behaviour, though this still doesn’t mean they’re necessarily bad FPL assets.

A key characteristic of FPL trolls is a tendency to score in an inconsistent or erratic manner and there is a strong likelihood that they also play in a team with a high number of fixtures, various alternative options in their squad and a tendency to rotate.

If you want to get points from these types of players, you almost have no option but to keep them in your team and persist with them through the blanks and the benchings until they do eventually score. Then you have to hope that, when they do come, those scores will be worth your patience. 

Sometimes they are. A player who scores a huge haul every few Gameweeks but blanks in the others is often as good, in pure point-scoring terms, as a player who consistently racks up smaller scores more regularly.

It really comes down to what you are willing to stomach and, if you prefer a greater level of consistency in your squad, you’re probably better off avoiding players with these particular characteristics.

Summary

Because our personal experiences are hugely influential on the way we perceive things, we are prone to judging FPL players disproportionately based on our own histories with them. Consequently, we tend to feel trolled by, or sometimes overly enamoured with, certain players based on whether we owned them in their worst or best moments.

Either perspective is probably somewhat divorced from objective reality and, therefore, allowing it to guide our FPL decisions can backfire in all sorts of negative ways. As always, it’s a good idea to sense-check our gut decisions against a more impartial data source wherever possible.

That said, it’s not all in our heads and some players genuinely do demonstrate troll-like behaviour, especially those who tend to score erratically or in short, unsustainable bursts. We may need to demonstrate greater patience in order to get the best out of the former and greater rigour in our analysis if we want to spot, and perhaps avoid, the latter.



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  1. Eze Really?
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 8 days ago

    I noticed I do not have one difficult fixture in GW27. Is it really worth chasing DGW's this week?

    1. GreennRed
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 8 days ago

      Chasing no, but maybe a punt or two. Won't get GW27 points until it comes around and injuries, rotation, suspensions etc could affect your team by then.

      1. Eze Really?
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 8 days ago

        Exactly.

      2. Eze Really?
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 8 days ago

        Brighton and Brentford only worthwhile picks IMO ATM. Not so sure I want the Mitoma/Macalister/March hokey kokey Also Toney a yellow card risk.

  2. wotwot
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 8 days ago

    KDB to
    A. Saka
    B. Salah

    1. Gizzachance
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 days ago

      Who would you cap out of them two?

      1. evilfish
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 8 days ago

        A

        1. Gizzachance
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 8 days ago

          Saka then if you would cap him over salah

      2. wotwot
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 8 days ago

        The one i will transfer in

    2. Bavarian
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 8 days ago

      B

  3. Gizzachance
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 8 days ago

    Who to sell for taa?
    A Shaw blank pool sou blank dgw
    B botman blank city wolves forest dgw
    Cheers

    1. Kno
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 8 days ago

      Price being no factor I would prefer holding shaw

      1. evilfish
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 8 days ago

        agreed

      2. Gizzachance
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 8 days ago

        Cheers, also have trippier

    2. 2OLEgend
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 8 days ago

      Botman

      1. Gizzachance
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 8 days ago

        Cheers

    3. dunas_dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 8 days ago

      Depends on strategy but I am removing Shaw as Botman guaranteed fixture in 28 and I am planning to FH in 29

  4. evilfish
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 8 days ago

    KDB > Salah, Almiron > Neves. Good moves for free?

    Would give me:

    Kepa
    Ake White Patterson
    Salah Saka Neves Andreas
    Haaland Kane Nketiah

    1. 2OLEgend
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 8 days ago

      Wouldnt go Neves tbh

      1. evilfish
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 8 days ago

        Who else under 5.9?

        1. Lucky Z
          • 8 Years
          3 years, 8 days ago

          Iwobi

          1. Lucky Z
            • 8 Years
            3 years, 8 days ago

            Also plays in 28

    2. Salah_Fingers
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 days ago

      Is patterson guaranteed to be back in starting 11?

  5. Kno
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 8 days ago

    The all in approach or the careful one?

    A: kane, bruno, patterson -> nunez, salah and trent (-4)

    B: bruno and patterson -> salah and tark

    1. Christina.
      • 16 Years
      3 years, 8 days ago

      C: kane, bruno -> nunez, salah

  6. 2OLEgend
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 8 days ago

    Any suggestions?
    2FT, 0,7 itb
    Plan is WC27, FH28, BB29

    Ederson
    Patterson, White, Bueno
    KDB, Øde, Saka
    Haaland, Johnson, Kane
    (Ward - Rash, Shaw, Mitoma, Trip)

    A) KDB & Patterson -> Salah, Tark (play 10)
    B) KDB, Patterson, Kane -> Salah, TAA, Darwin (-4 and play 10)
    C) KDB, Patterson, Shaw -> Gakpo, TAA, Robbo (-4 and play 11)
    D) Just KDB -> Salah (play 10)

  7. Sky Blue Sun
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 8 days ago

    Sell Shaw for Tark for free?

    Kepa
    White Ake Bueno
    Salah Odegaard Martinelli Andreas
    Haaland Kane Mitrovic

    Ward / Rashford* / Shaw* / Trippier*

    1. Christina.
      • 16 Years
      3 years, 8 days ago

      Yes, why not. Will Mitro even play?

    2. The Mentaculus
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 8 days ago

      Not with 11 playing. Keep Shaw

      1. Rhodes your boat
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 8 days ago

        Agree with this

    3. Nazz
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 days ago

      Yes I did the same

      1. Nazz
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 8 days ago

        My team

        Kepa
        Lewis White Beuno Tark
        Ode Salah Saka
        Haarland Kane Mitro

        Ward Tripp Rashford Mitoma

    4. AC/DC AFC
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 8 days ago

      Everton have reasonable fixtures

  8. boc610
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 8 days ago

    what a huge FPL flop KDB has been

    1. boc610
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 8 days ago

      ...this season i should add

    2. Volley127
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 8 days ago

      There's only 6 players who have scored more FPL points than him

    3. Arteta
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 8 days ago

      If he's a flop, I wonder what some Spurs and Chelsea "stars" are.

      Son + Kulusevski + Richarlison = 167
      Meanwhile Kane has gotten 155 points alone. They wouldn't be far from relegation zone without him.

      Don't even get me started on the Blues. Rubbish, trash and garbage.

  9. Old Wulfrunian
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 8 days ago

    Would you bench Trippier against Man City in gw26?

    1. AC/DC AFC
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 8 days ago

      I always play him for free kicks and attacking returns...

      Plus the most clean sheets to boot.

    2. Volley127
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 8 days ago

      Depends on your options but I will most likely

    3. Old Wulfrunian
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 8 days ago

      cheers both.

  10. AC/DC AFC
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 8 days ago

    If you're content to play the fixtures short term ish

    And Liverpool have been battering Manchester United in recent times....

    Does this make sense?

    Shaw to Robertson
    De Bruyne to Salah
    Fernandes to Gakpo

    Or just accept that Liverpool are on the wane and the Red Devils are back in contention?

    1. The Mentaculus
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 8 days ago

      I think Man Utd will be too good for them. Wouldn't want more than 1 Livepool player in that game. Maybe just KDB - Salah?

    2. Zimo
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 days ago

      Liverpool will be getting battered this time around though

  11. House Frey Wedding Planner
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 8 days ago

    KDB to Salah done already. What's the next best move to do here?

    A - Shaw ➡ TAA
    B - Shaw & Lewis ➡ Robbo and Tark (-4)

    Kepa
    White Shaw* Lewis Bueno
    Odegaard Saka Salah
    Haaland Kane Gnonto

    Ward Rash* Trippier* Mitoma* 1FT, 2.5itb

    Cheers

    1. Nazz
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 days ago

      Shaw to Tark keep the funds

      1. Nazz
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 8 days ago

        See my above team I think Lewis starts this gw

  12. V-2 Schneiderlin
    • 15 Years
    3 years, 8 days ago

    in a free hit team would you rather have Trent or Gakpo (in addition to Darwin and Salah)? So the choice is:

    A. TAA
    B. Gakpo

    1. The Mentaculus
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 8 days ago

      A. His crossing/passing have been superb the last couple games and Palace/Wolves attacks are blunt enough to take the punt I reckon

      1. V-2 Schneiderlin
        • 15 Years
        3 years, 8 days ago

        thanks! looks like A from comments below too

    2. Karan_G14
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 8 days ago

      A

    3. AC/DC AFC
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 8 days ago

      Free Hit is likely a much more valuable chip in upcoming game weeks.

      1. V-2 Schneiderlin
        • 15 Years
        3 years, 8 days ago

        unfortunately I have to play it this week - because I have so few players starting (also the players not starting I want to keep!)

    4. My heart goes Salalalalah
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 8 days ago

      A

      1. V-2 Schneiderlin
        • 15 Years
        3 years, 8 days ago

        thanks for input everyone! looking like A

  13. Eze Really?
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 8 days ago

    Can anyone tell me the GW28 fixtures that will be on?

    1. Volley127
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 8 days ago

      Arsenal v Palace
      Villa v Bmouth
      Chels v Eve
      Newc v Forest

      are the only 4 definitely on, the rest depend on whether either team from their FA cup fixtures progress (played after gw25), if they do the tie will be off.

      1. The Mentaculus
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 8 days ago

        Plus one of:
        Wolves v Leeds
        Liverpool v Fulham
        (Winner of Fulham v Leeds in FA Cup blanks)

        1. Eze Really?
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 8 days ago

          Cheers bud.

      2. Eze Really?
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 8 days ago

        Well appreciated

  14. Champions League Varane
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 8 days ago

    Thoughts? All thanks

    Trippier and Bruno -> Gakpo? Trent
    or
    Toney and Bruno -> Darwin and Gakpo?

    1. AC/DC AFC
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 8 days ago

      I'd hold Trippier.

      Liverpool are less than convincing and Palace playing at home under the lights on Saturday night could be another tough encounter for them.

    2. Malinwa
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 8 days ago

      Keep Tripp, get Darwin and Gakpo

    3. Sailboats
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 8 days ago

      I would ignore Pool defense.

  15. Slitherene
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 8 days ago

    Gomez is over, right?

    1. Malinwa
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 8 days ago

      Yes

  16. Malinwa
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 8 days ago

    A) KDB+Kane > Salah+Darwin
    B) KDB+White+Kane > Salah+TAA+Darwin (-4)
    C) KDB+Almiron+Kane > Salah+Gakpo+Darwin (-4)

    2FT - 0,0 itb

    Kepa
    Bueno-White-Tarkowski
    KDB-Rash-Saka-Andreas
    Kane-Haaland-Nketiah

    Ward-Almiron-Shaw-Tripp

    1. AC/DC AFC
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 8 days ago

      A or C of those if you have faith in Liverpool

  17. AC/DC AFC
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 8 days ago

    Funds permitting is Mitro to Watkins the sensible transfer to do?

    Or Felix.

    Chelsea normally beat Spurs i think but it is all Topsy Spursy for them at the moment.

    1. Mid budget coach
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 days ago

      The way i see it, Chelsea have nice fixtures,Felix till the 32 blank then switch to Watkins who doesn't blank

    2. Malinwa
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 8 days ago

      Watkins is gtg

    3. The-Red-1
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 8 days ago

      I'm planning doing a mixture of Felix, Toney, Watkins, or maybe even Jesus depending on fixtures/fitness

  18. Mid budget coach
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 8 days ago

    Considering the doubles to come the Triple Captain is best used in this one. Who to pick?
    A. Saka
    B. Salah

    1. AC/DC AFC
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 8 days ago

      Rash

    2. notlob legin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 8 days ago

      I'm seriously considering using it this week. If I do it will be on Salah

      1. Mid budget coach
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 8 days ago

        Has to be this week the double in 29 Liv face City and Chelsea

  19. Pylynen
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 8 days ago

    What to do with this team? 2ft 2.7itb

    Kepa
    Tarkowski Gabriel Neco*
    Bruno* Saka Martinelli Andreas
    Haaland Kane Mitrovic

    Ward Trippier Rashford Shaw

    A) Bruno+Neco>Gakpo+TAA
    B) Else?

  20. Jafooli
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 8 days ago

    Easier to list the players that ain't trolls....

  21. The Mighty Whites
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 8 days ago

    2FT, 2.5 ITB, thoughts?

    Kepa
    Akanji* / White / Patterson*
    KDB* / Martinelli / Andreas
    Haaland / Mitrovic* / Nketiah

    Subs: Ward / Rashford / Fernandes / Shaw / Trippier

  22. CrouchDown
    • 13 Years
    3 years, 8 days ago

    Bench Patterson or Akanji or Andreas?

    Ramsdale

    TAA Akanji Bueno

    Salah(C) Saka Mahrez Andreas

    Haaland Nketiah Darwin

    Subs: Ward, Patterson Rashford Shaw

  23. 1912 F.A Cup Winners
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 8 days ago

    Good morning all!! What’s everyone’s thoughts on the best captain option between Saka and Salah???!!!! Still undecided myself!! Best option???…..

    A- Salah
    Or
    B- Saka

    Interested to see what others think!!!

    Cheers everyone!!

    1. Strchld
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 8 days ago

      Saka for me

    2. The Mentaculus
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 8 days ago

      I am getting tempted to bring Salah in for this week only, but still set on Saka (C)

      1. The-Red-1
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 8 days ago

        Who are you going to drop Salah for after this week? KDB?

        1. The Mentaculus
          • 4 Years
          3 years, 8 days ago

          To get Salah I would actually have to do a Rashford hokey cokey, but I don't really care about losing 0.3m. Kane would go too but I think I'm going to do that anyway now

      2. 1912 F.A Cup Winners
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 8 days ago

        I’ve brought him in mate, just can’t decide whether to captain him or Salah too, tricky one!!

        1. 1912 F.A Cup Winners
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          3 years, 8 days ago

          Kane’s gone to Darwin for me, then Darwin goes to Toney, then Toney to Watkins then Nketiah back to Toney for 29!! Haha

          1. The Mentaculus
            • 4 Years
            3 years, 8 days ago

            Lot of moves but makes sense to have a fluid forward spot right now. Don't want to lock myself out of DGW opportunities either (Darwin, Toney, Felix/Iheanacho) by having a locked in front 3

            1. 1912 F.A Cup Winners
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 8 Years
              3 years, 8 days ago

              Sounds good mate!!!! My teams set up nicely so going to have fun with the strikers I think, and try to maximise the double opportunities!!! Looking forward to it actually!!

  24. Bury94
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 8 days ago

    A) Gakpo & TAA
    B) Salah & Tarkowski

    1. Tartan Brazilians
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 8 days ago

      Tough one. Would go B. Think Salah is the must have for the DGW out of those 4 despite Liverpool performance last night.

  25. Tartan Brazilians
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 8 days ago

    Cucurella to A - Robbo or B - Tark for -8? Will give me 6 DGWs and full team for GW25.

    1. RamaJama
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 8 days ago

      Not worth a -8, both could very well concede in both matches and get no attacking returns

      1. Black Knights
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 8 days ago

        Surely it's just a -4 though.

  26. v3n0m
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 8 days ago

    A) Shaw -> Myko/Mings/Kilman (FT)
    B) Shaw + Martinelli -> Saka + Perraud/Emerson (-4)

    1. RamaJama
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 8 days ago

      B

  27. tbos83
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 8 days ago

    Assuming Pool don't beat Real, and don't qualify for Champ league next year, Klopp has to go. They're embarrassing atm.

    1. JBG
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 days ago

      Why let him go? He's doing a great job with the minimal financial support he's given. Should stay IMO. Liverpools luck will turn.

      1. I like to party
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 8 days ago

        Minimal financial support?? Lol.

        Nunez €80m
        Gapko €42
        Diaz €47
        Konate €40

        Poor Jurgen.

    2. Tartan Brazilians
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 8 days ago

      Amazing comment given what Klopp has achieved. Give him time and money to rebuild the midfield and defence in the summer first!!! Think Pool will still make UCL next year with enough games left and games in hand.

  28. RamaJama
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    3 years, 8 days ago

    Are you free hitting GW 29 or building up a team of 8-9 doublers?

    1. OptimusBlack
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 8 days ago

      What about GW 28 Also would u bulid team or FH ?

    2. Zimo
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 days ago

      WC26

  29. Miniboss
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 8 days ago

    Very reluctant to transfer any Liverpool defender in. Should I do it anyways?
    Money or hits are no problem.

  30. Strchld
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 8 days ago

    Will captain Saka so won't bring Salah in and destroy my team.

    Would you do these 2 moves for free?
    Toney > Darwin
    Botman > Robertson

    Sadly can't afford Trent over Robbo.

    Also, would you do Mahrez to Gakpo for a hit?

    1. The Mentaculus
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 8 days ago

      I would probably get Darwin, on the fence about Robbo. Mahrez - Gakpo (-4) definitely not

    2. OptimusBlack
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 8 days ago

      Get Darwin & Gakpo
      YOLO!