We roll out the first in a series of three members articles this week, analysing the player data by position over the previous four rounds of fixtures. Everton and West Brom’s right-backs arrive on our radar along with Swansea’s skipper, whilst we also cast an eye over the recent defensive displays from Liverpool, Chelsea and the Baggies.
Lukaku --> Kane / Costa for -4 to field 11 players??
For sure, get someone in for a hit to get full team out.
Wait to see if either have fixture wk 30 before making a decision both good choices, I prefer Kane but Costa decent differential.
As above. As long as you think they will score 4 or more
Not sure that's worth a hit with Lukaku playing Villa in GW 28
Definitely. It's effectively a -2 as Kane/Costa will get you at least 2 appearance points which Lukaku won't get.
I'd make the decision depending on GW30 blanks, so wait for FA Cup games this weekend 🙂
No rush but which do ye reckon is the better move
Butland
Dier, VVD, Daniels
Ozil, Mahrez, Payet, Alli, Alexis
Kane, Vardy
(O'Shea, Moreno, Aguero)
A. Moreno -> Fuchs (bench Daniels/VVD)
B. Alexis -> Arnautovic / Shaqiri
A
How many FTs?
A easily
a
A
A with Leicesters lush fixtures coming up....very nice team
I want to buy Costa. must resist temptation.
Why resist ... in-form striker, hitting his straps in a side up on confidence and playing attacking Hiddink-style football. Avoid at your peril!
Last 9 gameweeks:
Costa: 7 goals, 3 assists, 8 BAPs (missed a game too)
Aguero: 7 goals, 1 assist, 8 BAPs
Kane: 7 goals, 2 assists, 9 BAPs
Vardy: 5 goals, 1 assist, 5 BAPs
My point being, he's right up there with the form strikers at the moment and Chelsea have some kinder fixtures coming up (Norwich & Stoke in the next 3).
Also ... I want him to rise in price, so rush out and buy in in droves please people!What's your frontline? You chasing as well, could be a factor in swapping Costa in
2 FT with 0.0m ITB....players with blanks*
DDG McCarthy
Kosceilny Daniels Fuchs Moreno* Janmaat*
Ozil Mahrez Payer Alli Stanislas
Lukaku* Kane Kun*
Considering Lukaku & Moreno -->> Vardy & VVD
Provided I have no injury news between now and GW 27, is there any better transfers I should do? Sort my GK situation?
Thoughts?Looks like a good plan to me.
Cheers Eagle....feel its the transfers I want to make and maybe bring someone in for McCarthy for GW 30. Will wait and see how injuries pan out before the deadline this week.
You certainly need a keeper for GW30. And you might find that both transfers out have games that week.
I think this is why I'm holding my transfers until finding out more about GW30. Is is madness to think that if City have a blank GW 30 then Kun could be the one to make way for Vardy for a couple of weeks?
With the GK situation, there's a possibility that Utd can still play GW 30 right? If not then I may switch DDG to Butland/Forster instead of Moreno to VVDVery unlikely that DDG plays GW30. I don't think Aguero > Vardy is madness but you will have to get him back for the 2 DGW.
Here's a way to position my desire to take a hit for Simpson > Fuchs (considering I want to replace Firmino this week)...
Who doesn't think that over the next half dozen favourable games for Leicester that Fuchs won't outscore Simpson by 4 points, conspiring his BPS potential and attacking threat?
Any subs this week?
Ahh, see below
Probably need to factor no hit + one of Bellerin/Targett. Would have been a lot easier with no subs.
I know... I suppose I'm almost assuming that Fuchs could repay the hit this week, albeit not exceed the 4 point swig, i.e. CS vs a 2 point haul.
I am just trying to rationalise... Not buying it?I have Simpson and think Fuchs is a lot better. GW30 is important & playing one shorter due to this transfer also is in the cost. Keeping Simpson gets you to strengthen elsewhere instead.
That is true actually, if I were to take this hit at a later stage pre-GW30 to get another playing player, but this isn't an FT.
Suppose I'm just thinking that more so that usual, this is a reliable long-term transfer as a good Leicester defender looks essential until certainly GW36.
Thanks for your thoughts mateNo problem. Got Ivanovic for Francis last week over getting a sure GW30 player for a blanker and get to pay the price until GW30.
Fair point! Hopefully he doesn't acquire a blank this weekend.
Very likely to 🙁
^ this ... if you have a sub and they only get 2 points then you've saved 2 ... at which point Fuchs and Simpson will share the CS and other points for the next 4-5 GWs. You could argue attacking points potential, but you don't "expect" that from a 4.5 defender.
If you have a sub, depending who it is ... play them and wait.
I do, however, appreciate your efforts to psych yourself into the hit ... it'll be fun either way 😉Aye... Suppose I'm banking on the Leicester clean sheet and a 2 pointer from my subs. I'm sure both won't get 2, but no guarantee I pick the right one and Leicester have much better odds.
I just feel that for this nice run of fixtures, where I'll probably play simpson week-in-week-out, he is destined to score me 6 at best, and Fuchs has the potential to compliment that with BPS and assists. Not buying that?
I love a good lightweight justification for a hit! 😆Nah it makes total sense ... fortune favours the brave and that is sounds logic. I guess just be prepared to grit the teeth if Norwich decide to turn up and bang a goal in 🙂
Think I may be brave.... 😀
Bellerin and Targett. Neither with particularly easy fixtures
see above ... both a chance of a CS still, at worst 1-2 points. Saves you points on the hit, and if for some reason Norwich score you'll be kicking yourself.
I think that's the biggest risk. If Leicester keep their CS, I'm pretty confident it would be a wise move, but I don't have that guarantee
I don't think it's madness, I've done that same move.
He's very expensive to hold for two potential blanks and the winner of the Chelsea/City games presents three strong options to fill that spot.
If Chelsea wins Aguero can come straight back in for Ighalo (who's not worth selling with Bournemouth up next in my team)
If City win than Costa and Sturridge are options for that spot until it's WC time and Aguero cab come back.
City look deflated right now and have looked a shadow of themselves since they announced Guardiola, worth considering.Reply fail?
Always is on here.
It was about someone selling Aguero for Vardy anyway 🙂Well since you got involved... What do you think of my own transfer rationale?
It's the same rationale that I used last week when picking between the two.
For a hit?
If you need him to field 11 than 100% as the -4 is only really a -2 and he plays in 27 and 30.
Even if you have 11 than this may be a week where hits gets absorbed as there may be loads flying about due to the blanks.
Jossy, I'm in a similar position to you and for me it means I can bench Williams away at spurs this week so I may just do it.
Cheers Balders! A bit of reassurance. 🙂
My thought-process is less about the one-week loss of Simpson and trying to replace him for GW@7, and more about the fact that for the remainder of the season I think Fuchs is a much better option, and that it should pay off. You agree yes?
What is making this decision more difficult as that I've just gone top of my ML, but by 1 point, so I know that this literally literally drops me off top temporarily. but then if my rationale is correct, that shouldn't be a factor.*GW27
Yeah, assists and baps should make the difference up as a minimum. Then you can maybe add extra points on top of that.
Cheers mate.
No guts, no glory!!
But let's see the FA Cup games first...
Would you play Bellerin (mun) or Smith (wat)?
Probably have to go with the heftier hitter in BellyThe Arsenal game should be tighter
Bellerin for me. Utd are cat and Arsenal will play tight and counter.
Bellerin
Lads, need help with this upcoming GW, 6.0 M ITB, 1 FT
Butland
Aldy Collins Cresswell Daniels
Alli Ozil Mahrez Payet
Ighalo Vardy
Bench- Elliot Bellerin Aguero Firmino
Was thinking maybe Firmino----> Eriksen?I'd save and get rid of a WH defender next week and upgrade Iggy to Lukaku for his plum Villa fixture.
VVD
If City and Chelsea draw in the cup, when is the first available gameweek to replay?
It seems to me with Euro fixtures that it falls after the cup quarter finals.
Anybody know what would happen.No one knows for certain.
Well it can't happen after the cup quarter finals you'd think
QF could be pushed back.
This, and there is lots of precedent for doing this.
It might have to be played on quarter-finals weekend if they can't find time before then (and European commitments make finding time difficult for those two teams).
This is the xG map for PSG-CHE . If we play like this again , we will qualify 😀
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CbX0UGlUUAEpDrP.png.... If you play like that again, aren't you most likely to tie the leg and go out on aggregate?
Hahah..I know but we will have Terry back and Matic back . also , Hazard should be 100% fit by then. But I felt we were better than PSG irrespective of the xG map
We had a lot of fun in the counter-attacks. PSG are so dirty tho..
That's quite the non-sequitur there EH.
I needed to google but yeah you are right. I am just happy that we were in the game contrary to what many people thought.
Losing by playing good(arguably better) feels like winning😛 r non-sequitur but just ley me have have it!
*another
**let
Cavani scores lucky and Jammy goals. Very fortunate yesterday.
not really, I thought PSG were better overall, got their best players on the ball more often and had control for longer portions of the match
Start Bellinda (mun) or Woll$h!t£?
If you aren't going to play Wolly this week, might as well sell him.
Wollshite
Cheers
Wolly .
I hope you all noted Dawson's presence in the article above.
I did. Finally sold him last week for Azpi. He's back now of course.
Yep. Glad to gotten rid of him for VVD last week 😀
I hope you noted the numbers for West Brom in the article above 😉
Any advice?
Butland
Alderweireld Ward Azpilicueta
Mahrez Payet Sanchez
Vardy Kane
Hennessey Kun Firmino Moreno (Simpson)
1FT. 2.6m itb.
A. Simpson > Fuchs (long-term upgrade)
B. Moreno > VVD (CHE this week so can wait)
C. Firmino > Arnie/Siggy (Stoke has Villa but Arnie hasn't played much)
D. Kun > Costa (could outscore Kun over next 3)
E. Save FT and field 10 (2 points lost but FT gained)F Ward/Azpi -> Target
So you prefer this over B. Moreno > VVD?
Moreno has a dgw coming up so I don't see the point of booting him esp if you got him under 5 mill.
Furthermore, his attacking stats as highlighted in the article above should convince you to keep him.
Agree with this. I know he is a hate figure round here but Moreno is one of the best defenders to own IMO. I don't intend to argue the point because people who disagree simply think about the game differently to me... but that's my opinion.
He has Blank MCI cpl CHE sot TOT
Can't see any CS thereHe will probably get 2 doubles and 2 blanks. Perfect scenario for a cheap player to utilise the entire squad.
I didn't intend to argue the point though. Oops. 😀This is my sentiment too and I'll likely be WCing after that run, at which point I can get him back in.
True it depends on wildcard timing. I f you wildcard before 34 he is useless for sure. But I will prob wildcard in 36 so can keep him for 34
Yeah that's a big factor If I have a change of heart on my WC timing then I'll likely keep him, but I'm pretty sure I'll WC in 31 or 33.
WC works to get him back.
Do you see any CS?This
Thanks. Based on Cup results, etc. I am likely to WC GW33 so planning purely between now and GW32.
Yeah all depends on timing of wildcard for sure
15th player?
Simpson. 5 on the bench.
And 9 on the pitch 😉
Aguero I guess?
Oh you said him already never mind. Should be another midfielder
Sorry, totally forgot Alli 🙂
Ah that makes a big difference because you are only 1 short of 11 in gw27! I would sell Simpson then
C for Arnie if pressers say he's fit and ready
B
Sanchez owners, feeling confident?
I think he looks the stand out captain for GW28 and has United with a depleted defence next. Could be gold. He is by far the most threatening attacking midfielder in the game even if he has been poor with his finishing for much of the season.You are unable to sell him just psyching yourself right?
Nope. Considering buying him
I have him and struggling to swap him for Ozil coz of other pressing matters.
Confident away to the two best defences in the league in the next 3? Not really.
If you're going on defensive stats for United bear in mind they're all injured and the current defence just got ripped apart by Sunderland. 😉
Hahaa very true, thanks for the pep-talk Scored 🙂
All good. I had the exact same thought at first. United's defensive stats are amazing over the season.
Then I looked at their likely lineup and thought about Sanchez vs them.it's nice to have him but I'll be shifting him and Giroud in gw29 if Arsenal have tot, ___, eve in that period.
If we get knocked out of the cup by Hull and WBA get knocked out by Peterborough then we've got an entirely different situation on our hands.*WBA knocked out by Reading even.
With Leicester home to Norwich, no way he's the stand out captain. Not even top 3 IMO
I said 28 Not 27
He has two games before the United game, he could quite easily play himself into form in those that could be essential for GW27.
I own him and right now he's benched and has those 2 games to work himself into a starting spot.
A lot can change in a week.Oh I see, sorry thought you ment this GW captain. Ya if you have him don't sell him. Could explode soon.
fairly confident. just a matter of time before he starts firing again
not particularly, don't mind holding him for a little longer but after man u & swansea I'll probably be looking to ship should the blanks continue + likely arsenal blank gw 30
Already did lukaku > vardy and now have this team. Good to go or any hits needed?
courtois
dann morgan toby
mahrez ozil payet alli Antonio
kane vardy
McCarthy bellerin vvd agueroCertainly no need for a hit with only Aguero having a blank. I'd personally start VVD over Dann
No hits needed. Good to go.
One hell of a team, why would you bench VVD after he keeping 5 CS consecutively
Cause he's playing Chelsea who I support, so slight conflict of interest. Plus dann is in great goal scoring form 🙂
Stand out Chelsea performers last night?
Willian, Ivanovic at the centre and Azpi
Willian and Azpi. Hazard was decent
Have many chances did willian?
Willain, Cesc & Azpi
Can you tell me a little more in depth Siva. Considering Firmino to willian.
was away.. creating chance.. work horse.. he is hot & cold in FPL.. I would look else where for Firmino replacement
Willian created lot of chances, Azpi was fantastic to counter Moura and Di maria when Ivanovic embarassed himself, Hazard not so good considering he wanted to impress his next suitors
BREAKING: Arsenal are training with 10 men after it was announced that Mike Dean will referee on Saturday. #AFC 😆
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My mum wants to block FFS website at home...
make sure she still allows the members area through the filter.
🙂
Time to move out?
Guys I'm trying to work out some Champions League FF moves, would you rather Ozil vs Barcelona or Pogba vs Bayern next Tuesday?
Pogba . but , think Ozil will deliver too
Cheers Santi
Gee. Probably Ozil for me as I think if Arsenal score then he has to be involved. Are Arsenal at home or away?
Both teams are at home
Ozil for me then mate 🙂
Cheers Nick
home
Neither tbh. But Ozil on a gun-point (I have punted on Sterling)
Cheers. This isn't UCL fantasy but Telegraph which has lots of in-round transfers so I'm going Willian -> Pog/Ozil -> Silva/YYT/Sterling.
Ah...why not D.Costa or any other Bayern midfielder?
ADM -> D. Costa 😉
Nice 😀
Give me a sec..I did some research yesterdayCuadrado is worth a punt but not 100% to start 🙁
Interesting, cheers we get the line ups before the windows close so its always a possibility.
was thinking Thiago Alcantara
neither but if push comes to to shove, Pogba
Thanks
My team is in pretty bad shape now. Should I play wildcard now or do it after gameweek 30.
Would make sense to hold for a while longer. But depends on how bad the situation is.
I have Cedric, Gosling, Lukaku, Francis, Firminho in my team.
I dont have Ozil, Payet, Costa, Vardy, Leicster defender in my teamI think I'd rather prefer a -8 than a WC bc it will have its uses around the chips if you have them.
Vardy and the Leicester defender should probably be top priority.
Payet, Ozil and Costa all might not play in GW30. So best wait it for the FA cup results imo.great. Thanks.
Not wildcarding
If you have 2 FT i defintely wouldnt WC....not worth really this GW regardless
Depends how bad
- The Worst Of Times for ManU
My fellow Manutd supporters, isnt it probably the worst time for our club in recent memory?
I mean there comes a manager who is given everything he wants to succeed and still he sells 3 strikers and complains we dont score, stubbornly stays on a over disciplined brand of football till its too late and concedes shamelessly that only Europa win is way for UCL
In11years since I supported this great, this is most frustrating tike 🙁
How the legendary club has fallen from graceFrustarting time*
Without a doubt this is the worst time I've experienced. Wasn't fan of selling the strikers. Chicha specially.
I mean if he wants to sell its okk if you have a plan or signing another striker! If you just sell for sake of it n then complain cant score many its soo pathetic...Thinks Van Gaal is purposefully managing Manutd casually as he is anyway gonna retire later and has no hunger for anything left in his life except holiday retreats
That's a little harsh I think. As a great manager he would've loved to go out with a bang, with another title. But his style is probably not suited for the fast pace and counterattacking teams in the PL.
But the thing is, SAF adapted to the changes in the game throughout his reign. Whereas LVG remained stubborn and predictable.
to be fair, RVP is washed up and was always injured, welbeck was never useful, and chicharito was decent as an impact sub but never a useful starter. at least martial is young and has lots of potential, not that he's playing as a centre forward...
Its a shame that things didn't work out at all. its mainly 70% fault of the manager & 30% bad luck.
Lvg shouldve bought a center back, everyone knew it was necessary. But he didn't
He sold Adm because he didn't fit in the philosophy and look what his philosophy got us into.
Bad luck because of the Shaw, Darmian, Rojo staying injured constantly.I mean why sell Chicha/RVp? Werent they good enough backups strikers??Forget CB what about Herrera and Depay? Werent they supposed to be managed better? I look at these teams playing UCL and to think to watch Manutd in Europa against some random Mitylland team is shameful to core...Its affecting my mood in real life 🙁 We really lived in dream under Fergie
Basically he sold everyone who he thought wont fit into his philosophy. For players like Chicha, Adm, Memphis they thrive when they are given space & when they can use their pace & shots. But in this system they will never succeed.
Now I have mentioned defense because our defensive players are so poor I doubt any manager can do well with this defense. Lvg is to blame for this again.
Now honestly I think, we will do good with at least four new signings next season under a new manager.
LVG on selling Welbeck:
"He was already, with different coaches, not a line-up player, but then with Mr Van Gaal [3rd person sic] the world is changing? No, the world is not changing. They are the facts.
They are not my facts, they are the facts of Danny Welbeck and we have Van Persie and we had Wilson, and when you keep Welbeck then you don't give any chance to the youngsters and that is our philosophy.
And then also we could buy Falcao. When that is not enough reason then I don't know what is... then I'm not a very good manager"
🙂God I know English is second language for Van Gaal but this is just gibberish
Hope you have the privilege of being a non Manutd supporter bro or you one of the sufferers?Haha yeah I'm a gooner, I was absolutely rocking on Sunday when dat guy scored 😉
Man u are suffering? Jees
They are compared to what they're used to and what their expectations are. Obvs nothing compares to what Leeds are going through but Man U are fun to laugh at too.
You can't even laugh at Leeds now
Managers who love Wooney are not good managers and Welbeck is like Sterling , great player but no finishing. Finishing comes with time sometimes . See Suarez
Summed up perfectly in the last sub sentence.
The rest is gibberish.
I just hope we don't end up like pool .
There are a lot worse places to be than 5th. Not a giant leap to get back on track next season given the amount of cash they have.
Personally i think it does fans of the big clubs good to have a dose of reality every now and again.
Team was on the slide when fergie left - only he could have won the last title with a very average team..
Only 11 years..?
This was quite predictable that the after Alex will be difficult for Utd.
And i think gooners are also praying that Wenger go, but am sure they'll face the same fate once he's gone. That will break the stability. Same happened to Pool and they are still struggling.
However, I still think if the board backed Moyes with some decent signing, he claimed he wanted, they would have been far better. They say the guy, bring on VanGaal, and allow him an excess of 300M over 2 seasons. That's for me, real mismanagement!
On top of that, ManUtd have been according to some, me included, the most boring team of this season alongside Villa.
Matt Busby was a hard act to follow too. United remained in the wilderness for many years after he retired till Fergie came along.
But with the amount of money that United now have, they will surely be challenging for the title again in a year or two once they have sacked LVG and replaced him with a top manager. Not sure that Jose is the right one for them though!
Liverpool's decline was different. After their great years under Shankly, Paisley and Fagan, their problems started with the five-year ban from European competitions following Heysel.
The restrictions against fielding non-English players didn't help either - this meant that even players from Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland had to be replaced.
Other reasons were that Liverpool were left behind by United after failing to cash in on merchandising, and that Liverpool is a less prosperous area than Manchester or London anyway.
Worth noting that all English clubs were banned from European competition after the Heysel tragedy not just Liverpool
True. All English clubs were banned for 5 years, and Liverpool were banned for 10 years, but it was later reduced to 6. Before this, English Clubs dominated European competitions and were European Cup winners 7 years out of 8 between 1977 and 1984, but the rest of Europe improved while we had been away and the next English success was not till 1999.
English Clubs were also handicapped by the newly-introduced restrictions on foreign players (with even Scottish, Welsh and Irish players counting as foreign), and Souness's English signings were not of the same standard as the players they replaced.
How different things are these days, with the Premier League dominated by foreign players from all over the world!Remember the foreigner rule well it was an absolute shambles particularly remember United with Gary Walsh in goal getting pumped 4-0 in the Nou Camp
Moyes had all the backing of the board financially the difference was how he chose to go about spending it.. flirting all summer with Fabregas and Bale who had no intention of signing up to play under him and then on deadline day when he realised time was nearly up sh!t his pants and bought Fellaini for about 3 or 4 million more than would of cost a month before
Moyes wasn't doing the negotiations. He identified the players and the board should have brought them in. THEY weren't able to due to the commercial man coming in and trying to play hard ball over negotiations. They then panicked and brought fellaini who Moyes never wanted in the first place in. Moyes got shafted by the board.
I'd say it's a lot more likely they weren't able to because neither Fabregas or Bale wanted to come and play for David Moyes.. its no surprise that at that time the only one who fancied it was Fellaini who by the way he had already bought once before and was instrumental for him at Everton.. if you're trying to say the board went behind his back and signed Fellaini against his will then im afraid thats bollocks.. He was not shafted in anyway by the board regarding recruitment he was shafted by just being David Moyes..
I'm being careful with what I sas here as I don't want to insult you but do you realise how idiotic that sounds?
Are you saying that utd are not big emough of a pull now to get top players who are not playing regularly for their clubs (fabregas)? Or young players with potential from provincial clubs (herrera)?
You are so down on Moyes and his reputation but he managed to bring in skillful payers at Everton like pienaar and a few others with big reps like Royston drenthe etc. I'm not saying him not being considered a top level manager wasn't part of the issue but for you to be putting sole blame on him just sounds idioticthere is nothing more idiotic than implying that Moyes didn't want Fellaini a player he had signed before and was a huge fan of and that the board went over his head to do so also implying that the manager had no say in transfers.. likening the signings of Steven Pienaar and Royston Drenthe to those of Bale and Fabregas is even more ridiculous than the previous two statements above to be fair and even typing that with a straight face was tough
The whole point i was trying to make before you piped up was that he had every bit as much money available to him as LVG he just didn't go about it in the right way chasing unrealistic targets and then panicking when it came to the end of the windowYou're not getting the point at all. If Moyes wanted fellaini he'd have got him earlier. The way i would read it is Moyes gave the board a list of targets and THEY didn't secure them As a last minute thing they went for fellaini as he was all that was left on the shelf.
You seem to place no store on the pull of utd and seem to think that any player that signed would only do so for Moyes not the fact that they were joining the great man utd. If Moyes was such a poor draw how did he manage to sign mata? Bale was never an option imo and we don't even know if Moyes looked for him. Fabregas was a bit part player at Barcelona who would have sold him for 35m but utd wouldn't pay more than 30m.
To say Moyes was given the same money is clearly wrong when utd wouldn't even stump up the extra 5m to buy fabregas (who incidentally went to Chelsea the following summer for 35m and helped lead them to the title).
The board also managed to sign herrera the following summer after the monumental mess up during Moyes summer.
I'm an impartial observer here and methinks you might be a little to close to the club to admit their mistakes. It is far easier to blame it on Moyes.Fellaini clearly wasn't first choice like i said in my original post it was a panic buy with time running out time he had wasted chasing Fabregas and Thiago
United as a club have plenty of pull but the manager of the club at the time is a huge part for any player wanting to join and looking at Moyes CV wouldnt of inspired a great deal of confidence in the worlds best players and i believe that played a huge part ultimately
Mata comes under the category of top players no doubt and was a great signing of course helped by the fact that it was clear he wouldn't be playing at Chelsea and wanted to stay in England..
The board royally screwed up the Herrera transfer that is undeniable and true
Not denying that the hierarchy in particular Woodward aren't the most competent but also Moyes lack of pedigree would of been a huge issue with the very best playersApologies then as I thought you were putting the majority of the blame on Moyes.
Fyiw I never thought Moyes had the right pedigree or played the right style of football for utd but the only thing I'd blame him for at utd was the direct route 442 tactics he played. Even then it is hard to blame him for doing exactly what it said on the tin. Moyes also had a much more difficult job as he had to manage much higher expectations from the utd board and fans as well as the senior players left behind (most of whom lvg cleared out).
I'd not blame him for the transfer shenanigans though as he clearly identified players who could have been signed in baines, fabregas, herrera and possibly one or two more we might never hear about. I doubt they were ever seriously in for bale as that kind of transfer would not have made it public unless there was a chance of it happening (it usually all unofficial while the clubs suss out if there is a chance of it coming off).No worries and it's all pretty irrelevant now but he didn't have a leg to stand on from the get go tbh we have a manager in place now who has won everything there is to win and even he appears out of his depth..
he's so old school, Ferguson stuck with his principles but evolved the team into a high pressing, quick tempoed team that looked to hit teams on the counter.
LvG's boring brand of slow, possession football just has no place in the modern game. Quick, tiki-tak football is all when and good if you have the quality of Barcelona, but other teams would obviously struggle to emulate it, and i'm not suggesting Man U tried this type of football... but Man United at the moment is like a boring version of Barcelona, with no attackng imuptus and by far the worst squad of players i've seen since i've been a fan.
Heads need to roll. LvG and in my opinion more importantly, Woodward needs to go. He's seen the spendature of 200 million on players who havent strengthened the team significantly.I agree with all of this except the Woodward part....he has brought the concept of regional marketing which has kept Manutd finances strong inspite of UCL demise
Thanks for my first hottopic greenie! Although I would have hoped to help FPLwise, atleast rantings of my hopeless Red Devil heart had some use 😉
It will great if I am told the moderator name who hot topic'ed it and also kindly change 'MANU' to 'MANUTD' in the topic name if possible 🙂It's been a tough 3 and pretty bleak last 3 years there's no doubt but losing the greatest manager there has ever been who had been in control and built the club in his way for over a quarter of a century was always going to be huge.. tougher to take for yourself personally as a fan of just 11 years you will only have known success a little less so for me who has supported them closer to 30 and remembers a time when we where without a league title in 26 years.. we have fallen below our ridiculously high standards over the last few seasons but a fall from grace would be more applicable to an Arsenal side who haven't won a league title in 12 years and just 2 trophies in that time or Liverpool who are now 26 years without a league title.. we have a squad more than able to compete with a manager who will give them the freedom and belief to do so..
Well I am just 23 and used to follow tennis and cricket before got interested in football at age 12
It must have been amazing to have privilege to witness the entire 25+ year reign of Ferguson:)
And yes fall from our lofty positions of consecutice UCL finals and now not even good enough to qualify for knockouts...but hope against hope--»Glory Glory Manutd 🙂Followed tennis myself from a very young age and Andre Agassi 🙂
Its been a joy for sure and feel pretty blessed to have been there to see the most successful period in the clubs history. that sustained success may never be repeated but the size of the club and the sheer wealth means we will always be around we aren't going anywhere thats for sure
I guess when you put it that way talking of the consecutive UCL finals to EL it does seem a bit more depressing but the belief is there that we have a squad of players good enough to get back into the top 4 for sure.. Jose will make sure of that 🙂Yes and to now witness Golden age of tennis with 3 10+ grandslam winners in Fed, Nadal,Djoko!
I personally detest Mourinho because of his negative personnage but thats what will take for us to bounce back then have to swallow itYep golden age is right i fully expect Djokovic to overtake Federer 17 slams within the next 2 or 3 years which is amazing to think i never thought Sampras would be over taken..
Got to be honest i grew to detest his off field antics and attitude towards media etc but if he can calm that side of things then we would have the best in the business his record speaks for itself and really we have little option if we want to challenge Man City.. the renewed rivalry between him and Pep would be pure box office+1 except about Djoko getting 18 Slams...Agreed he doesnt have much competition now from youngsters but he will be 30 soon...expect him to win 15-16 at most
Doesn't show any signs of slowing up though if anything he's getting better lol i wouldn't bet against him winning the grand slam this year tbh
United under David Moyes and LVG has probably been worse than at any time during Fergie's reign, but there must have been many United teams in the years between Matt Busby's retirement and Fergie's arrival that were worse still - one of them even got itself relegated.
But has there ever been a United team as negative and boring as LVG's?
There appear to be a few signs recently that some of the players might have rebelled against LVG's philosophy and tried to attack a bit more. LVG claims that nothing has changed though, so he can't really take any credit for it.
But it is notoriously difficult to succeed a successful manager, Liverpool's succession of promotions from the Anfield boot-room being a rare exception.
DDG
Ivanovic Cresswell Daniels Huth
Sanchez (c) Arnautovic Eriksen Alli
Costa Carroll
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Come on Norwich is all I can sayCarroll????
Why not trade in Vardy or Mahrez ... it might well be the bloodbath of the season!Because that would be dull and -4
In fact -8 unless I drop kun
You should get Bassong to really drive it home.
Kun to Naismith?
Hmm that relies on Norwich scoring
Alexis captain. Interesting
Good non-template team.
Lets wait and see if this punt-full team brings..
Looks like I picked the wrong week to get my posting history up
Its not an easy task, I'm trying to do thr same and might come accross as a bit of a lunatic! Hows your team set for gw30?
Will look at it after the weekend. I have enough ft to get to 10 or 11 i think if I have no injuries or suspensions but depends on which games go ahead
What about you?
You see what I did there?
Just reply to yourself or me 😉
Ok
Morning all. Should I replace DDG with an eye to getting a keeper for gw 30? Thinking Schmeicel or Butland?
DDG could have a fixture in GW 30 too
I'll monitor FA cup results. He's not doing the biz. I was hoping for Mourhino to be hired weeks ago to shore up the defence.
Forster?
Will probably get VVD, but may double up. Thanks.
Deaezone is really dead. So quiet here...
Its deaezone because its deae
Have Huth, Mahrez, Simpson.
Should I do
A) Simpson --> wolsheid.
B) A+ Ighalo-->Vardy(c) for a -4.
Currently have 11 playing, but that captain poll is scaring me. Originally planned for vardy GW28.Can u sell someone else besides Iggy?
Kun & Kane. No.
Few black actors are boycotting Oscars 😯
You guys trying to boost your posting history could, y'know, try answering a few questions about proposed transfers etc.
Just a friendly tip. 🙂Tired answering questions about dgw and blanks 🙂
Been doing that with most my posts for 4 years diva. Just tend to do about 5-10 a day. Needs to be 10+ a day to hit 200 in a month.
Sorry Zan. I hope that didn't sound mean. I know you've been helpful in the deadzone since before I stopped lurking and became active here. It was just funny looking at this page with you guys finding creative ways to boost your post count, while people were asking for advice. 😀
To Mr. GRV's point, I tend to do responses in short bursts too. The questions can get repetitive after a page or two.I'm making a bit of a joke of it but I understand Jarvis has to find an objective way to draw the line.
I've been doing that but realised my advice was rubbish; eg play Migs and bench Mahrez!
😆 Yes, stick to being creative! 😀
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