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Does Overall Rank Really Matter?

The one measurement we have in Fantasy Football as to how good we are is our overall rank, but does it really matter? If we’re not playing for a high rank then what else are we really playing for? I want to start off by saying I’d love to win a competition like the Fantasy Premier League (FPL), as we all would but it’s unlikely to happen, which leaves me with competing in mini-leagues that offer prizes. It’s almost the sole reason I actually play Fantasy Football in the first place, to take money from my friends.

This is why I believe rank doesn’t really matter. For most of us we will never experience the joy of winning one of the main competitions over the course of an entire season and instead we have to set our sights on monthly prizes or mini-leagues.

Mini-League Glory

One argument that could be put forth here is that mini-league glory and a high rank go hand in hand. I certainly can’t argue against the fact that if you have a high rank you’re probably also doing well in your mini-leagues. In some situations, however, we will make decisions based on our mini-leagues without taking rank into effect. For example I will sometimes a look at my mini-league rival and see that they’ve taken a point hit, making me much more tempted to take a hit myself without any thought of how it might be affecting my rank in the short or long term.

Another tactic is “blocking” which a lot of people will use, getting in a player their rival has to make sure they can’t be used to close the points gap. That player might not help you get up the overall ranks but might help you win your mini-leagues.

Additionally, if you’re anything like me, once your mini-leagues are won you like to start having a bit more fun. In my first season of playing FPL (five years ago now) I had a 100-point lead for a large chunk of the season and going into the final weeks I took lots of hits to change my team and make the Gameweeks more fun for me. This killed my rank and I quickly went from just outside the top 10,000 places to finishing 20,698th. I could have played safe and avoided the point hits as they weren’t needed but I decided it was more fun to keep changing my team.

There’s also the head-to-head aspect, where you might be basing your decisions solely on your opponent for that week and nothing else. I’m sure in these cases rank goes out of the window as a consideration.

Can people with higher ranks help us?

It’s great to see people on Fantasy Football Scout doing well and nice to see how the site is helping people achieve higher ranks. We spend a lot of time asking and answering questions but when taking advice from others do you ever take into account what their current or previous rank is? After all, if rank matters to us that much surely we should only take advice from those that have previously or are currently at a high rank?

Whenever I ask a question I always take the answers at face value. I’ve never checked what someone’s rank is before taking the advice. I think someone at a low rank can give just as good advice as someone with a high rank, after all it’s only you that makes the decision in the end so weighing up lots of different options is always handy and good advice is good advice regardless of the person’s rank.

Where’s the fun?

For a lot of people the fun in Fantasy Football is achieving a high rank and to do that you quite often have to go with the crowd and get a player because everyone else has him. For others they like to go for the differential from the off, playing 4-4-2 instead of the classic 3-4-3 or getting in that player no one else has.

This is often done at the expense of rank. A lot of the time a player is a differential for a reason (they might not be scoring as well as others but have decent fixtures) and often won’t remain a differential for long. At that point they continue their quest to change to the next differential.

Conclusions

Rank is important, it’s ultimately what sets us apart from the next player and competitiveness is fun! However, I think for a lot of the time mini-leagues are more important and don’t always go hand-in-hand with rank. For me my rank doesn’t really matter. I’ll still check it and want to be higher but finishing outside of the top 100,000 last year didn’t make me want to achieve a higher rank this year any more. What is driving me on this year are my mini-leagues. Whatever your aim in Fantasy Football you need to have fun so I’m not sure rank matters all that much.

What do you think? Does your rank and other people’s ranks matter to you? What is your aim for a Fantasy Football Season? Are mini-leagues more important than rank or do they just simply go hand-in-hand?

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  1. ronmadpirlo
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    (It starts with one)
    One thing I don't know why
    It doesn’t even matter how hard you try
    Keep that in mind, I designed this rhyme
    To explain in due time
    (All I know)
    Time is a valuable thing
    Watch it fly by as the pendulum swings
    Watch it count down to the end of the day
    The clock ticks life away
    (It’s so unreal)
    Didn’t look out below
    Watch the time go right out the window
    Trying to hold on but didn’t even know
    I wasted it all just to watch you go

    I kept everything inside and even though I tried, it all fell apart
    What it meant to be will eventually be a memory of a time when...

    I tried so hard
    And got so far
    But in the end
    It doesn't even matter
    I had to fall
    To lose it all
    But in the end
    It doesn't even matter

    One thing, I don’t know why
    It doesn’t even matter how hard you try
    Keep that in mind, I designed this rhyme
    To remind myself how
    I tried so hard
    In spite of the way you were mocking me
    Acting like I was part of your property
    Remembering all the times you fought with me
    I’m surprised it got so (far)
    Things aren’t the way they were before
    You wouldn’t even recognize me anymore
    Not that you knew me back then
    But it all comes back to me
    In the end

    You kept everything inside and even though I tried, it all fell apart
    What it meant to me will eventually be a memory of a time when...

    I tried so hard
    And got so far
    But in the end
    It doesn’t even matter
    I had to fall
    To lose it all
    But in the end
    It doesn’t even matter

    I've put my trust in you
    Pushed as far as I can go
    For all this
    There’s only one thing you should know
    I've put my trust in you
    Pushed as far as I can go
    For all this
    There’s only one thing you should know

    I tried so hard
    And got so far
    But in the end
    It doesn’t even matter
    I had to fall
    To lose it all
    But in the end
    It doesn’t even matter

  2. SEASIDER
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Yes, it does matter to me. I easily win my mini leagues by 300 or so points (maybe I need smarter friends). OR matters more to me every year. My highest finish is 2472 but what I really want is a top 1k finish. It won't happen this year as I am currently 16k ish but that is my aim next year. And the year after.

    Do well OR and all your mini leagues will look after themselves.

    1. 50 Shades Oshea
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      ye i agree, i have basically won one of my mini leagues already, but i am ranked 500 and have set myself a top 100 finish, so that the motivation now until the end of the season

  3. Kings of Lyon ★
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Could not agree more!! In GW38 in 2003 I didnt get Nolan in as I was blocking my rival, lost in OR ranking but there was too much risk surroundinb the trasfer.

    "I think someone at a low rank can give just as good advice as someone with a high rank". Such a good point

  4. Stoichkov
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    The most important thing is how low your team number is. The rest of the season is secondary.

    http://fantasy.premierleague.com/entry/152/event-history/28/

    1. Philman
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      I agree with this - got an all-time low if 30 this season, beating my previous best of 76. Just gotta get a rank lower than my team ID now :-).

      On a serious note, I don't agree to be honest. My history is something that is important to me, and I will always try and improve it each week/season whether I am doing well or badly - keep trying 'till the very end.

      It's whatever floats your personal boat.

  5. tisza
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    sometimes it's about that 1 gameweek. this week's top scorer made 1 transfer after a ranking of about 1.5 million last week. scores 100+ points and jumps over 80k places.

  6. BuK II
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    I generally boss my mini-leagues and the main motivation to joining this site and taking FPL more seriously is to test myself against top players. So for me I do look to improve my rank (under the assumption a high rank will easily win my MLs).

    The important point you make though is FPL should be fun and we shouldn't lose track of that. I think this has come off a bit in this DGW with quite a lot of advice to be conservative with getting in DGWers.

    For me, DGWs are fun and I am going into the weekend -16 on not making any transfers but have 4 players in the game. As a result I am looking forward to a game I wouldn't even know is on if it wasn't for FPL!

  7. badger1982
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    What point should we start blocking?

    1. Kings of Lyon ★
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      GW37

      1. badger1982
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        haha bit too late. 🙂