Scout Picks
30 August 2019 4990 comments
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A Manchester City triple-up underpins the Scout Picks squad for Gameweek 4 as they prepare to host Brighton at the Etihad Stadium on Saturday afternoon.

Selecting just three of their players proved difficult and we had to make some difficult choices sifting through David, Neale, Paul and Geoff’s Scout Squad submissions.

This week we line up in a 3-5-2 formation coming in at £82.9m, just £0.1m under our budget of £83.0m.

Goalkeeper

Tom Heaton is our selected goalkeeper for Gameweek 4

Budget goalkeeper Tom Heaton (£4.5m) is our man between the sticks for Gameweek 4 after all four of our Scout Squad pundits included him in their submissions. Aston Villa travel to a Crystal Palace side that has largely struggled in front of goal this season. They may have found the net twice on the counter-attack at Manchester United, but prior to that, they had blanked in favourable fixtures in Gameweeks 1 and 2. Last season the Eagles scored the fewest home goals of any side that survived relegation too. Given Heaton’s history for making saves, we believe he could provide excellent value this weekend.

Defenders

Liverpool’s defence has not inspired confidence this season but Alexander-Arnold is offering plenty of attacking threat

Liverpool’s defence has been hard to trust for clean sheets so far this season, but Trent Alexander-Arnold (£7.0m) is still displaying plenty of attacking threat. His 11 chances created so far this season is the second-best in the entire league, of any player in any position, such is his threat both from set-pieces and from open play. Therefore, he stands an excellent chance of being involved in Liverpool’s goals at Burnley. Three of our Scout Squad pundits selected him as the best choice defender this week, David putting him in the second slot.

Lucas Digne (£6.1m) gets into the Scout Picks for the third week in four as Everton prepare to host Wolves on Sunday afternoon. Nuno Espirito Santo’s men have been particularly goal-shy in the Premier League so far this season, finding the net just twice, once from the penalty spot and once through a world-class textbook Ruben Neves strike. The Europa League commitments appear to have taken a toll on Diogo Jota especially so it looks as if we’ll be in for a low-scoring affair at Goodison Park. Meanwhile, Digne continues to take set pieces for the Toffees, finding the net with one against Lincoln midweek.

With Brighton coming to the Etihad Stadium in Gameweek 4, a Manchester City defender should prove important. That’s why Oleksandr Zinchenko (£5.5m) gets back into the Scout Picks for the first time since Gameweek 1 after David and Paul tipped him in their submissions. Pep Guardiola’s men have conceded the fewest shots and goal attempts in the box over the first three Gameweeks, arguably unfortunate to let in two set-piece goals in both of their most recent outings. Meanwhile, Zinchenko played more key passes than any of his colleagues in the Gameweek 3 win over Bournemouth.

Midfielders

Raheem Sterling was unanimously voted as the best midfield option by our Scout Squad panel

Raheem Sterling (£12.3m) is the best midfielder for Gameweek 4 for each one of our Scout Squad panel. The Manchester City attacker has five goals in his first three matches of the campaign and is also top of the league for shots inside the box and big chances. After registering a goal and two assists in two league matches against a more defence-minded Brighton outfit last season, it seems unlikely that Graham Potter’s new-look forward-thinking side will stop Sterling’s excellent run of form at the Etihad Stadium.

Mohamed Salah (£12.5m) is welcomed back to the Scout Picks XI after a week out in the cold, one in which he punished our lack of faith with a 15-point haul. The Egyptian very much looked back to his best against Arsenal, after underwhelming performances in Gameweeks 1 and 2. Burnley at Turf Moor is not an especially easy fixture, but if Liverpool are to make a breakthrough this weekend, Salah is the most likely to score based on his penalty-taking duties, and more shots on target than any other colleague so far this season.

Kevin de Bruyne (£9.7m) has been an exceptional creator in the league so far this season. He has played more key passes than any other player across the first three Gameweeks, fashioning the most big chances during that time too. We had to choose between Manchester City’s midfield maestro and centre-forward Sergio Aguero for the final member of our triple-up – it was the Belgian who triumphed. We believe that de Bruyne offers better value than his Argentinian colleague and has greater long-term appeal as a more nailed-on member of the first-team, Gabriel Jesus already making great progress coming back from his hamstring injury.

Fully recovered from his dead-leg against Norwich, Mason Mount (£6.2m) makes his debut in the Scout Picks XI. He is the latest differential option to get promoted to the top-flight of FFS advice, this week ahead of Sheffield United’s trip to Stamford Bridge. The Blades are not likely to be pushovers on Saturday afternoon but Mount looks like one of Chelsea’s key players under Frank Lampard already. He ranks top among his colleagues for goal attempts and shots on target, which is why the midfielder averages 6.7 points per game so far.

Todd Cantwell (£4.7m) is looking like a very effective enabler this season given his budget price and attacking potential. The ongoing injury to Norwich midfielder Onel Hernández should ensure the 21-year-old continues to start games on the left flank of Daniel Farke’s attacking 4-2-3-1 formation. That has allowed Cantwell to register three attacking returns in the first three matches of the season. Against a West Ham defence that has not looked solid at all this season, we are backing the budget man to continue his run of form.

Forwards

Sébastien Haller makes his Scout Picks debut for Gameweek 4

Sébastien Haller (£7.4m) gets into the Scout Picks after being tipped by all four of our Scout Squad pundits. Paul was especially fond of the West Ham man, selecting him as the best forward for Gameweek 4. Norwich’s defence has been quite obliging in the early part of the season, conceding more shots on target than any other side, and letting in the highest number of goals so far (eight). Haller looks a decent candidate to capitalise on the Canaries’ weaknesses at the back, having found the net twice against an equally leaky Watford defence in Gameweek 2.

As David mentioned in his Scout Squad submission, Teemu Pukki (£7.0m) has almost become an auto-include for the Scout Picks at this point. He has five goals in the first three matches of the season and from what we can see of the underlying statistics, this output in terms of attacking returns looks sustainable. We’ve already covered how poor West Ham’s defence has been in recent weeks in our entry for Cantwell, so against them, it seems unlikely that Pukki’s scoring run will come to an end.

Substitutes

Emerson (£5.5m) has been showing plenty of potential in the early weeks of 2019/20. The Chelsea left-back is joint-top for attempts on goal among defenders and is joint-second for efforts inside the box. Clean sheets have not been forthcoming for the Blues just yet, but a home match with Sheffield United could be the perfect opportunity for Emerson to deliver his first returns of the campaign.

Daniel James (£6.0m) has been a rare positive spark for Manchester United so far this season, finding the net on two occasions already. The injury to Anthony Martial should see his place in the side assured for Gameweek 4 and given he has had more shots inside the box than any other Red Devil in 2019/20, his goal threat is already making itself known.

Joelinton (£5.9m) gets onto the Scout Picks bench after also making into our Spot the Differential article for Gameweek 4. The Newcastle forward managed to find the net with very little service against Spurs last weekend and may enjoy more opportunities against a Watford defence that has started the season in poor form.

The Scout Picks’ Captain

As we have mentioned many times since the season began, the Scout Picks now has a captain for the 2019/20 campaign.

This skipper is chosen using the conclusions of the latest Captain Sensible article and a four-way vote between David, Neale, Paul and Geoff.

Because the use of Fantasy Football Scout data is used so heavily in this process, the captain we choose each Gameweek will be known only to those who have signed up to Membership for the 2019/20 season.

It will be revealed to the public only when the deadline for the Gameweek has passed.

The Community Champion

Representing the community against the Scout Picks in Gameweek 4 is InsaneFC.

They have opted for a 3-4-3 of Kepa; Zinchenko, Digne, Alexander-Arnold; Sterling, Lanzini, Mount, Maddison; Haller, Aguero (c), Pukki.

The community member who beats our picks by the biggest margin over the campaign will win a £100 Amazon Voucher and a place in our Contributors and Moderators League for the following season.

It was a close defeat for the Scout Picks in Gameweek 3 as FPL Mike the Knight won by a 46-44 scoreline.

That means Hot Toddy’s 10-point winning margin from Gameweek 2 remains the current score to beat.

Lessons learned from Gameweek 3

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  1. Fpl Richie
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    After this week, is Martial a better pick than Mount to your mind?

    1. Coys96
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Yeh

    2. ᶠᶦˡᵗʰʸLucre $$$
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Surely

    3. EMBOLOFAN
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      even in terms of value, i think

    4. Athletic Nasherbo
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      For the next 2 but then switches again.

    5. Twisted Saltergater
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 17 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      I'm not sure if you consider that the extra 1.5m allows a 5.5m defender to TAA.

      1. EMBOLOFAN
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        in a 100m+ squad martial and taa extremely affordable

        1. Twisted Saltergater
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 17 Years
          6 years, 11 months ago

          Technically yes, but throw in Sterling, Salah and KdB and that leaves only two midfield spots. There's nice options in Mount, Ceballos, McGinn and Cantwell to consider too.

          1. EMBOLOFAN
            • 8 Years
            6 years, 11 months ago

            personally feel martial and taa best value players avail in respective positions

  2. RohanVaswani
    • 15 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    A) Barnes sterling Lanzini

    B) Kdb rash Anderson??

    1. RohanVaswani
      • 15 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Or kdb haller martial?

  3. Hödi
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    Last decision in my WC:
    A TAA/Dunk
    or
    B Digne/Emerson
    ?
    (no other defensiv LIV coverage)

    1. Coys96
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      B. Liverpool difficult games anyway

      1. Hödi
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        Thanks!
        (No Kane in my team btw...)

    2. EMBOLOFAN
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      a/soy

  4. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
    • 16 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    Keep a close eye on Moise Kean this weekend chaps

    Soon to be added to the list of cheap forwards doing well along with Pukki, Haller, Wesley, probably Jota as well

    1. George Sillett
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Kept a close eye midweek and confirmed my thoughts.

    2. Tomerick
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      I’d love it to come true because Everton need an out and out goalscorer but so doubt it will happen this week.

      1. Tomerick
        • 12 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        *do not so.

    3. palace ash
      • 17 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      And Barnes

    4. Twisted Saltergater
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 17 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Newsflash. All strikers will score goals.

      Except Benteke.

  5. Coys96
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    Hate to say this but I think its Kane -> Aguero (-4)

    1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      • 16 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      I’ll wait till Zinky loses his place

      Zinchenko, Sterling, KDB is nuts for 27.0

      1. Coys96
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        I'll have Zinc, Raz + Kun 🙂

        1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
          • 16 Years
          6 years, 11 months ago

          Every manager should be exposed to the joy of having a fit KDB in their FPL team imo

          He hasn’t even scored yet and he’s still smashing it 🙂

          1. George Sillett
            • 10 Years
            6 years, 11 months ago

            Good Lord I agree with you. Truly surprising.

          2. Coys96
            • 9 Years
            6 years, 11 months ago

            If I could get him in I would. You cant have em all 🙂

      2. George Sillett
        • 10 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        So is Mendy for a little more.

    2. MTPockets
      6 years, 11 months ago

      How embarassing

      1. Coys96
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        It also would be if Kane blanks in next 3 and Aguero scores in all 3

    3. lifes a pitch
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Change your name

      1. Coys96
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        I would if I could be bothered

    4. FPL_WILDCARD
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Literally just did the same...

  6. RohanVaswani
    • 15 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    Also will martial price drop after the international break?

  7. lifes a pitch
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    Captain Aguero or Salah ?

    1. MTPockets
      6 years, 11 months ago

      I'd captain Aguero for sure if I had him

    2. palace ash
      • 17 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Kun

    3. Coys96
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Aguero

    4. Hasselbaink Forever
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Aguero

  8. palace ash
    • 17 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    A) Martial to KdB
    B) Martial and King to Cantwell and Aguero (-4)
    C) Bank transfer and play Greenwood

    Heaton, McGovern
    TAA, VvD, Digne, Zinchenko, Lundstram
    Salah, Sterling, Martial, Ceballos, Dendonker
    Pukki, King, Greenwood

    Thoughts?

    1. FPL_WILDCARD
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      A

    2. Eddie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      C

  9. FPL_WILDCARD
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    Team all set?

    Pope
    VVD, Laporte, Emerson
    Sterling, Salah, Mount, Trossard
    Aguero(c), King, Greenwood

    1. The Count of Monte Cristo
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Looks good.

    2. Miguel Sanchez
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Very nice - have largely the same team

  10. Ynwalfc
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    Greenwood or Kelly as first sub

    1. The Count of Monte Cristo
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Greenwood

    2. Ynwalfc
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Thanks

    3. EMBOLOFAN
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      kelly

  11. DA Minnion (Former great)
    • 14 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    Taking a punt on Mark Noble. Madness.

    1. Fpl Richie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Not a bad pick actually

    2. Bartowski
      • 15 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      You must have more midfield slots than me if you can be this noble.

  12. For Fuchs Sake
    • 16 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    Any need for a -4 hit? or shall I just stick? ?
    Heaton
    van Dijk Wan-Bissaka Digne
    Pérez Sterling (C) Salah (VC) De Bruyne Trossard
    Pukki King

    Pope Greenwood Lundstram Montoya

  13. The Count of Monte Cristo
    • 14 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    Cannot believe Kevin Mirallas scored 29 goals in 151 games for Everton - much more than I'd have thought!

    1. The Count of Monte Cristo
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      In the league ^^

    2. EMBOLOFAN
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      essential?

      1. The Count of Monte Cristo
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        Think he was good value at 6.0m one season

  14. Lexi2014
    • 11 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    Heaton (Pope)
    Digne / KWP / VVD (Lundstram/ Cathcart)
    Salah / KDB / Moura / Mount (Dendockner)
    Kane / King / Pukki

    1FT

    Choose one of the following (please!) 🙂

    A) KWP -> Zinchenko
    B) Roll FT and play Lundstram

    1. Astronautovic
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      B imo

    2. Royal5
      • 15 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      A looks obvious. I'm doing the same. Think he'll get a cs.

    3. Ynwalfc
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Get a city defender for there up coming fixtures. I’d go for A

  15. Rinseboy
    • 14 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    right to bench Barnes? tough one this

    Pope
    TAA Digne Soyuncu
    Salah Sterling KDB Mount Cantwell
    Pukki Haller
    Barnes Lunds Rico

  16. Angelic upstart
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    Who should I captain? Salah, De Bruyne, Haller or Pukki?

    1. Astronautovic
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Salah imo

    2. EMBOLOFAN
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      salah

    3. Don Rogers FC
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      KDB

  17. Astronautovic
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    Maddison or mount for long term?

    1. EMBOLOFAN
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      mount more of a punt but cheaper

      1. Astronautovic
        • 10 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        Thanks man

    2. ᶠᶦˡᵗʰʸLucre $$$
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Both have bad fixtures after this week

      1. EMBOLOFAN
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        not true of chelsea, or of leicester in medium term

  18. Royal5
    • 15 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    Anyone considering benching Jota for Greenwood. Think Jotas blankorama could continue. Not confident Mason will start though.

    1. EMBOLOFAN
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      would be an awful move i think, chances of gwood starting very low

      1. Royal5
        • 15 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        What about Jota? Played 82 mins yesterday

        1. EMBOLOFAN
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 11 months ago

          significantly more likely to start than gwood

          1. Royal5
            • 15 Years
            6 years, 11 months ago

            Probably right. Bit sick of him though

            1. EMBOLOFAN
              • 8 Years
              6 years, 11 months ago

              only been 3 games. hes 6.5 for reason

    2. MTPockets
      6 years, 11 months ago

      nope

      1. Royal5
        • 15 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        Not worried jota could be benched?

        1. MTPockets
          6 years, 11 months ago

          Have sold him for Haller, for a hit

        2. MTPockets
          6 years, 11 months ago

          Misread your first post actually. Thought you said selling Jota for Greenwood

          1. Royal5
            • 15 Years
            6 years, 11 months ago

            Aha. Nah, actually considering selling him for a hit even. Or start Rico or Greenwood. Not sure.

  19. Zoox
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    Ryan (button)

    VVDTAA Digne(rico, lundstram)

    Salah KDB Lanzini Perez (Dendoncker)

    Kane Pukki Che Adams

    Is it insane to do Kane, Perez to Agu (c) and cantwell for a -4 hit? Alternatively get sterling and 5.9 fwd..really at a loss if it makes sense or not..afraid no sterling and agu will hurt but kane has a good record vs ARS and Perez have BOU..

  20. Hasselbaink Forever
    • 13 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    Martial injury has given me a bit of bother. Was planning a simple Perez > Mount this week

    Heaton
    Coleman / TAA / Robbo / Digne
    Salah / Sterling / Perez / Martial*
    Pukki / Barnes

    Pope / Greenwood / Dendo* / Montoya

    1FT & 0.2 itb

    A) Martial > Mount
    B) Martial & Robbo > KDB & Soyuncu (-4)
    C) Robbo, Martial & Perez > Soyuncu, KDB & Mount (-8)
    D) Perez > Mount and play one of Greenwood / Dendo
    E) Somethine else?

    Thanks

    1. Zoox
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      A or Lanzinin in for martial

    2. Ynwalfc
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Looks like Greenwood is gonna start for Martial. Martial to Cantwell then get a city defender in for Coleman. Not liking the double Everton in defence

  21. chaser123
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    Mount to outscore Perez this week?

    1. Tomerick
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Flip a coin

    2. S.Kuqi
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Yes

  22. Bad Butcher
    • 11 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    1) Play that 11
    2) Wickham -> Haller (-4) and play 3 4 3 with Cantwell or Barnes on the bench

    Pope
    Lapo Digne AVB
    KDB Ster (C) Mane Mount Cantwell
    Barnes Pukki

    subs: Wickham Lund Dunk

  23. Fpl Richie
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    Heaton
    Zinc Vvd Digne
    Dendoncker* Salah Sterling Kdb
    Greenwood Haller Pukki
    Bench: Pope/Lundstram/Rico/Martial*
    Best play:
    A. Martial to Mount which allows future upgrades elsewhere.
    B. Dendoncker to Cantwell who would rotate with Lundstram. Keep Martial

    1. EMBOLOFAN
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      if you have ft id sell martial. gwood wont start

      dendo is better than cantwell

      1. Fpl Richie
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        I thought he was injured himself frankly!

  24. RohanVaswani
    • 15 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    A) Barnes sterling Lanzini

    B) Kdb rash Anderson

    C) kdb haller martial?

  25. Jinswick
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    Which Silva to bring in this week and why?

    A) David
    B) Bernardo

    1. Gudjohnsen
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      A, because he's the better player

    2. The Count of Monte Cristo
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Prefer A of the two. Especially after his haul last week.

      1. Not again Shirley
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        Saw the Man City match and Bernardo could easily have outscored David so wouldn’t read too much into last week.

        I would actually say Bernardo is due a goal this weekend. Only thing to bear in mind is Mahrez may take his place but probably not.

    3. MTPockets
      6 years, 11 months ago

      B. Despite GW1 would just feel more confident he starts
      (although sold him after GW2)

  26. Jones Town
    • 14 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    Play Diop (NOR), Greenwood (sou) or sell Martial for -4?

    Thanks!

  27. afsr
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    Save or replace Martial (fpl says out till after IB)?

    Pope,
    Digne, Zinchenko, Dunk
    Mane, Sterling, Martial, KdB, Cantwell
    Kane, Pukki

    Button, Lundstram, Greenwood, Hanlon

    1 FT, 0.2 ITB

    A - play Greenwood in hope he starts now that Martial is out and save FT for after IB.
    B - Martial -> Mount
    C - Kane, Martial -> Son, Haller. Son played closer to goal than Kane, so maybe he should cover Spurs. Downside - they are shite without Eriksen and Poch is clearly looking for a way to play without him. Then again Arsenal is Arsenal

    1. afsr
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      can't get Kun, cause i tripled up on City already, unless i get rid of Zinch, which seems like a waste

  28. tbhogal
    • 17 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    Hi Guys, which move is best?
    Mount for Martial or Perez??

    1. afsr
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Perez. Martial will be back soon and Perez didn't look great

  29. S.Kuqi
    • 13 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    Is unsure what do with Martial.

    - Keep and play Kelly?
    - Sell for Siggy / McGinn / Maddison
    - Sell for Cantwell and get Barnes in next gw fo Wickham

    1. Coys96
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      C

      1. S.Kuqi
        • 13 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        Thanks

  30. Joyce1998
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    A- taa and walker
    or
    B- laporte and vvd
    currently on B