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The ‘Sleeper’ series returns to the Fantasy Football Scout pages this summer.

In these articles, we assess the Fantasy Premier League (FPL) players who failed to live up to former glories last season.

First up, Callum Wilson (£7.5m).

With Eddie Howe an initial success in the Newcastle United hotseat and the Saudi money being splurged on more acquisitions, we assess whether Wilson can push his way back into our thoughts as an FPL asset.

All the stats for this piece are taken from our Premium Members Area, where you can get a whole heap of benefits for just £2.49 a month.

2021/22: FPL RECORD AND STATS

Kane and Wilson enter FPL differential conversation ahead of Gameweek 9 3
  • Starts: 16
  • Substitute appearances: 2
  • Goals: 8
  • Assists: 0
  • FPL points: 75 (4.2 per match)

Wilson played a part in less than half of Newcastle United’s fixtures in 2021/22 and his injury record will be a recurring topic throughout this article.

When he did make it onto the pitch, he delivered: he found the back of the net on eight occasions in just 16 starts, delivering 0.52 goals per 90 minutes – an average beaten by just two first-choice FPL forwards, Cristiano Ronaldo (£10.5m) and Jamie Vardy (£9.5m), both of whom cost considerably more.

The more expensive Vardy, Ronaldo and Harry Kane (£11.5m) were among the few players in Wilson’s Fantasy position who averaged more points per start, too:

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The underlying stats are less impressive, however.

A total of 28 other FPL forwards shot with more regularity than Wilson, while he languished 22nd for expected goal involvement (xGI):

Rank v other FPL forwards (minimum 10 apps)
Minutes per shot29th
Minutes per shot in the box24th
Minutes per shot on target18th
Minutes per penalty box touch19th
Minutes per chance created43rd
Minuters per expected goal (xG)14th
Minutes per expected goal involvement (xGI)22nd

Even the successful change of manager didn’t boost his numbers too much (his minutes-per-chance average, for example, was 39.2 under Steve Bruce and 40.3 under Howe), although we’re looking at small sample sizes in both cases.

As usual, he had to rely on his clinical streak in front of goal: only Vardy (27.8%) had a better shots-to-goal ratio than Wilson (22.9%) among first-choice forwards in 2021/22.

FPL PREVIOUS

Making the most of what few chances fall his way has been something Wilson has made a habit of.

As a general rule of thumb, a goal conversion around 20% or above is quite clinical – something Wilson has achieved in five of his last seven seasons, if we take the liberty to include 2016/17:

SeasonShot-to-goal conversion rate
2021/2222.9%
2020/2124.5%
2019/2014.5%
2018/1921.5%
2017/1815.1%
2016/1719.4%
2015/1629.4%

His record at Newcastle overall is pretty elite, with 20 goals, six assists and 204 FPL points arriving in 39 starts. String that record together over the course of one campaign (minus the 39th game!) and you’re into ‘Team of the Season’ territory, although ever-present status has been a pipe dream when it comes to Wilson.

The former Cherries hitman was similarly third among forwards for points per match (see below) in his debut Newcastle season in 2020/21 but again missed a third of the campaign through injury:

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2022/23: THE FPL PROSPECTS

Is Callum Wilson the best FPL forward under £8.0m? 2

Whatever Wilson has acccomplished as an FPL forward in the past has generally been for a side at the wrong end of the table: in his seven seasons as a Premier League player, six of them were for a bottom-half club.

So there’s a little bit of intrigue as to what the former Bournemouth striker could achieve with better service and in a team targeting something greater than top-flight survival, something that will surely be the case in 2022/23 should Newcastle’s summer spending continue.

The Magpies’ goal threat indeed improved after they made their series of January acquisitions, with their xG per match rising from 1.0 to 1.4.

Matt Targett (£5.0m) was one of the leading chance creators in the division among defenders after the winter window, while we barely got to see Kieran Trippier‘s (£5.0m) undoubted assist potential due to a fractured foot. Ryan Fraser (£5.5m), Wilson’s sparring partner and creator-in-chief at Dean Court, was also excellent from February onwards.

Newcastle could probably still do with a real key pass merchant in midfield, however, a la Christian Eriksen.

While the service and ambition might be on the rise on Tyneside, that still leaves us with Wilson’s off-putting injury record.

His glass hamstrings will simply make him a no-go for some Fantasy managers (he has struggled to shake off the ‘troll’ tag for years) and he is a option who ought not to be bought without an accompanying exit plan.

Still, there are few (maybe no) other mid-price forwards available in FPL who have been as reliable for goals as Wilson when he has made it off the treatment table.

A lot of Fantasy managers pursuing a forward around this price will be plumping for Gabriel Jesus (£8.0m), whose Arsenal side have a very decent opening schedule.

But while the Gunners sink to third-bottom on our Season Ticker for fixture difficulty from Gameweeks 8-15, Newcastle are right at the top.

The Jesus to Wilson switch at this juncture, then, might be worth a thought – if he’s not in the physio room, of course.



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  1. Hotdogs for Tea
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    test

    1. Onz
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      It worked ?

    2. The Knights Template
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      icles.

      1. Andy_Social
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        We're back, baby.
        If the site's gotta go down for half a day, might as well be when we've got nothing to say anyway.

  2. Ser Davos
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Bowen being slept on

    I think Harry Wilson looks a great shout for 6.0. The talisman of midfield and Fulham could offer us goals under Silva

    1. The Knights Template
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Bowen will get something against Man City. I feel it in mine armour.

    2. Scapegoat Salah
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Mitrovic baby!

      1. Ser Davos
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Nah, could score and help make Wilson an option but I'd rather punt on Wilson and then switch to another option when it fails

        Much prefer Brennan to any of these options actually, but that's superseded by the 6.0 mid bracket, hence Wilson.

        1. Scapegoat Salah
          • 9 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          Fair enough, some fairly ok options at 6.0 in midfield but not many at all at 6.0-6.5 in fwds so can see your point

          1. Ser Davos
            • 10 Years
            3 years, 5 months ago

            Exactly. Wilson with 10 goals and 20 assists last season! No more Carvalho

            1. Ser Davos
              • 10 Years
              3 years, 5 months ago

              I'd go for Odegaard at 6.0, but at 6.5 with no goal threat and low down the talismanic pecking order hierarchy

  3. Hotdogs for Tea
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Salah is not essential anymore and the FOMO is now the main reason to get him, imho.

    The transfers of Jesus & Sterling are game changers when it comes to selecting alternatives to premium players - give them the same minutes as Son, Kane, Salah & KdB then their points tally will be up by a 1/3 this season

    That puts Sterling pushing way over 200 points and Jesus as the main man at Arsenal maybe more than 200 points too.

    These guys look like a very useful 7 up top … and any combination of two of them should see off Salah & Neto as a combo 🙂 If you don’t like Foden or Bowen there are lots of alternatives from 6.5 to 8.5 too.

    Sterling Diaz Foden Bowen
    Haaland Jesus Johnson

    Mainly Haaland with the captaincy depending on fixtures, but with Jesus or Sterling against any of the weaker teams … should cover Salah

    1. Disputatious Dissident
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Of course he isn't essential he's bloody 13m
      I was gonna go without but changed my mind just cos i wanna cap him vs fulham and palace. 38 free trades so we don't need to worry about season totals. I'll keep as long as i think he's the best captain, drop him as soon as he's not.

      Unlikely raz will get city attack ppg at chelsea imo but curious to see

    2. Scapegoat Salah
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      I think FOMO is bigger this year with Haaland rather than Salah.
      You know what you’re getting with Salah

    3. The FPL Units
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      The biggest FOMO is Haaland. Kane is proven and a captaincy option.

    4. cravencottage
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Those look great up top- but really strips the defense to TAA, Cancelo and fodder with 4.5 GK

      1. Hotdogs for Tea
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Full team … 15 starters
        - Raya & Sanchez rotate
        -Tomiyasu Botman Neco rotate for 3rd defender slot

        Raya
        TAA James Tomiyasu
        Sterling Diaz Foden Bowen
        Haaland Jesus Johnson
        Sanchez Botman Neco Andreas

        1. Andy_Social
          • 13 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          FOMO? Are you really implying that none of us are capable of analysing Salah and concluding he's quite good at football, no matter what other people think?

          1. Hotdogs for Tea
            • 10 Years
            3 years, 5 months ago

            people are scared of not having Salah, the same as every season. You just need to look at how everyone held him for the second half of last season in fear of missing his points even though his form dropped and his returns dropped … I think this season a by far better team can be built around three mids for 23 mill than Salah, Neto and a 4.5 …and that people scared of what they may miss by not having him rather than what they may gain by not having him … imho

            1. Andy_Social
              • 13 Years
              3 years, 5 months ago

              You're making 2 what are for me unconnected points. One is to say that a good squad can be built without Salah. That's perfectly legitimate, even if I don't hold to it myself. The other is to patronise those who do include Salah by suggesting we only have him because we're somehow scared rather than we've come to the conclusion that he's the best player in the game - an opinion, but a valid one just like deciding Neto is worth having for 5.5 without being accused of being an idiot (I'm not saying you said that, but we've had a plague of bots over the last few days unable to mention Neto without patronising those who include him). I'm not denying that some people are motivated by FOMO, but to suggest that the primary motivation is insulting.

              1. Hotdogs for Tea
                • 10 Years
                3 years, 5 months ago

                wow so aggressive … it’s just an opinion on the generality of picks not personally aimed at any single FPL manager

                Salah and Neto are joined at the hip because of their price. The alternatives to them in that price range is
                Sterling with any of Bowen, Mount, Madds, Foden, Saka, Diaz, Mahrez … the list goes on.

                Or even Diaz, Grealish & Mount etc for Salah, Neto & 4.5

                I simply can’t see Salah and whomever he is being partnered with outscoring the alternatives available (and other captaincy options are available) so yes I am coming to the conclusion people are dropping Salah in ‘because they always have, his effective ownership & what happens if he hauls’ without necessarily weighing up the comparative points available for his cash … and Neto (read that as the 5.5 mid price point) is a FPL / Twitter herd mentality makeweight position in all of this.

                imho

                1. Andy_Social
                  • 13 Years
                  3 years, 5 months ago

                  As I say, your picks and arguments for and are against are perfectly legitimate points of discussion. My sole point is that accusing anyone who chooses differently of FOMO is patronising and insulting. You could show genuine respect for alternative views instead of looking down on others and then excusing yourself with a hollow 'imho'. That is all.

                  1. Hotdogs for Tea
                    • 10 Years
                    3 years, 5 months ago

                    if you find the opinion that people select Salah because they are scared of missing out on his points as a primary decision making reason as insulting or looking down one’s nose … I respectfully suggest that you take some time away from social media …

                    1. Andy_Social
                      • 13 Years
                      3 years, 5 months ago

                      I'm calling you out for falsely using terms like 'respect' and 'humble' when your posts are anything but. I am one of the 'people' - I and thousands of others choose Salah for positive reasons, 'fear' has nothing to do with my choice. To accuse me of making a decision due to being 'afraid' is patronising and insulting. If you can't see that, I can only pity you. Maybe you could make more valuable use of your internet time by taking some English lessons.

                      1. Hotdogs for Tea
                        • 10 Years
                        3 years, 5 months ago

                        it’s not all about you … although at the moment you seem to want to make it so

                      2. Andy_Social
                        • 13 Years
                        3 years, 5 months ago

                        Says you - the one who wants to insult every player who doesn't share your opinion.
                        You know what they say about arguing with a certain type of person on the internet..... I'm out. 🙄

                      3. Hotdogs for Tea
                        • 10 Years
                        3 years, 5 months ago

                        why is the opinion that people fear missing out on Salah’s potential points insulting ? many over the years have said exactly that about not owning him.

                        I think you are taking something personally that is not actually personal to you - I certainly worry about Salah getting 300 points but I don’t think he will and I think ‘this season’ there are better priced combinations (in fact I think Son, Jesus, Haaland, KdB & Sterling will out score him) but the easiest thing in the world is just to pick him, not risk it and not over think it … many are doing just that, im(honest)o

                      4. dukebuuud
                        • 3 Years
                        3 years, 5 months ago

                        Well concluded after one of the most baffling arguments ever.

                      5. Andy_Social
                        • 13 Years
                        3 years, 5 months ago

                        Like I said, I have absolutely no issue with differing opinions about Salah or any other player. It's what this forum is all about. My sole point is about how certain opinions are expressed.

                      6. Uncle Baby Billy
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 5 Years
                        3 years, 5 months ago

                        Mods...

                        I'm a bit of a lurker here so when any individual among the hundreds of regular posters begins sticking out then it's a sure sign that he or she is either A) insightful & interesting or B) nuts.

                        This Andy character seems to think that this place allows him carte blanche to insult, deride and generally belittle people holding views that he deems unworthy. Anyone can get into an 'argument' every now and then, when someone is doing it multiple times a week then that person has issues.

                        Something needs to be done here, this isn't Twitter.

                      7. KujaliaFC
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 13 Years
                        3 years, 5 months ago

                        Andy's hysterical pearl clutching aside, he's a veteran member of this site.

                        So what if he has Salah FOMO fear. Let the man express himself. Let's not suppress banter.

        2. Hotdogs for Tea
          • 10 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          Easy to get a third premium defender by dropping Bowen down a bit to a cheaper mid.

    5. White Pony
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      My opinion FWIW is that a fully rested Salah is a totally different beast to a flogged and knackered one.

      I’ll back my feeling he’ll come flying about the traps by having him as captain in GW1 and see how things progress.

      The key for me is recognising when he is not at his best and moving then.

      1. Hotdogs for Tea
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        yes agreed, Salah should be refreshed and all things being equal I would be putting him straight in my team, but with Haaland, Jesus & Sterling looking great value and Son & KdB likely to match Salah, I am struggling to commit to him.

        The 6.5 - 8.5 bracket is very good this year and I have my eye on JWP, Brooks, H Wilson, Zaha etc if necessary as a step down even from the 8.0 - 8.5 players as the season progresses.

        It’s fun times in FPL this year and I believe the initial template is going be challenged as we all wake up to this.

    6. White Pony
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      FOMO is a huge factor in FPL I think. You’re right to bring it up. I think the FOMO with Haaland will be off the charts.

    7. European Bob
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Spot on. The only reason I'll get Salah is for FOMO. I'm likely to do it last minute.

  4. Miami Monkey
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    A) Mendy / TAA / Perisic / Martinelli
    B) Raya / TAA / Perisic / Martinelli [ + 0.5 ITB ]
    C) Raya / Robbo / Tomi / Mount-Kulu-Mahrez

    X
    X / Cancelo / James / X
    Salah / Diaz / X / Neto
    Haaland / Jesus

    1. KieranKA
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      A

    2. klopptimusprime
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      B

  5. ☈☾
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Who's the trap of the template?

    1. Ser Davos
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Diaz

    2. Scapegoat Salah
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Diaz

      1. Scapegoat Salah
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        And Neto but he’s only cheap

    3. POGON 1948
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      To add to Diaz and Neto, I wonder how many 59min appearances Perisic owners will be able to take on a psychological level

      1. Ser Davos
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        I looked up his 20-21-Conte-5-sub-season

        He was even benched GW 2, which I assume would have been way before Europe kicked in, but that was the late starting lockdown season

    4. KieranKA
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      As a Liverpool fan, Díaz for sure. People are forgetting Jota

      1. Andy_Social
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        I do wonder if Jesus turns out to be a dud.

      2. POGON 1948
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        I think we'll line up Diaz - Jota - Salah GW1 but after that it'll be unpredictable, could defo be a trap

    5. @persecuted_by_mods
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Potentially the big at the back formation, all it takes is a few weeks of lucky goals from the opposition and no attacking returns and suddenly you've got a lot of money getting you no points and itchy fingers

        1. White Pony
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          Spot on.

    6. Birds of Prey
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Ederson forster
      Taa cancelo manipulate Cucurella will
      Diaz coutinho Saka periera 4.5
      Vardy Kane jesus

      1. KieranKA
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        No Salah is bold. I assume “manipulate” means Matip

        Vardy is the most obvious downgrade to get to Salah. Vardy Diaz to Salah 4.5 is one option among many

    7. KieranKA
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      How to improve this team?

      Raya // Balcombe
      Trent Robertson Cancelo Chilwell Tomiyasu
      Salah Saka Neto // Andreas Murphy
      Haaland Jesus // S.Greenwood

      Ideally I would like a stronger second bench option, but I can’t justify selling any of those defenders or bleeding more funds out of midfield

      1. Albrightondknight
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Considering you have Salah and Haaland it is very good. Save .5 on Robbo to VVD and upgrade Neto?

        1. Albrightondknight
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          Even find a 4.5 keeper and save .5 on Raya too and use the 1 mil overall to upgrade Neto?

          1. Albrightondknight
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 10 Years
            3 years, 5 months ago

            Sorry Raya is 4.5

      2. Hotdogs for Tea
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Salah to Diaz and spend 5 mill where you want

    8. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      no Trent
      no Cancelo
      no Salah
      ...bit too much, huh?

      Raya (Balcombe)
      James Perisic Trippier Tomiyasu
      Son Bowen Diaz Martinelli
      Kane Haaland

      1. Albrightondknight
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        You would definitely go against the grain with 2 big hitters up front. They just don’t seems to get the big scores the last few years. But Haaland starts well and the Kane/ Son combo kicks in it could be good.

        1. Andy_Social
          • 13 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          I've reverted to a 3mium, with Salah, Haaland and Kane. Definitely goes against the grain.
          My thinking is: just much of an upgrade is Kane over Jesus? Answer: Massive.
          Is it worth 3.5 million? Answer - Yes, I think Kane is 3.5m better than Jesus, even if he's not often captained.
          So he's in - but where do I make the sacrifice to find the money?
          Very controversial move - Cancelo to a 4.5 defender (I had 1m itb).

          So it came down to Kane+4.5def is better than Jesus + Cancelo.

          I don't expect many to agree, but that's my thinking.

          1. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
            • 9 Years
            3 years, 5 months ago

            appreciate your thoughts, cheers Andy!

        2. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
          • 9 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          it's a little risky team, but I like to take a risk

      2. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Spending less on defence feels like freedom

      3. Hotdogs for Tea
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Jesus & Cancelo will score more than Kane & 4.5

        Can’t argue with much else imho

        1. Andy_Social
          • 13 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          You're right - I can do it another way, by downgrading the goalkeeper.

          Cancelo + 4.5m keeper will outscore Chilwell + Mendy. I'll do that.

    9. Albrightondknight
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      I keep coming back to something similar to this despite some rotation and injury prone picks. Any feedback is welcomed. Thanks

      Henderson

      TAA VVD Cancelo James Perisic

      Salah Kulusevski Mount Foden

      Jesus

      Forster Kovacic 4.5 4.5

      1. Andy_Social
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        I think it's excellent (with the caveat of my comment above)

        1. Albrightondknight
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          Who knows what will work. But with my team it would take more than a Cancelo downgrade to get me to a 3mium.
          Every season is different of course Kane and Haaland could go to 250 but with the points acting against forwards they need a stellar season to achieve it.
          I was advocating 5 at the back at least 1 if not 2 season ago. Now that it is becoming template I might actually have the balls to stick with it !!

    10. klopptimusprime
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Thoughts?

      Madders can be any of Bowen, Kulu, Jesus, Saka etc

      Raya
      TAA | Laporte | James | Trippier
      Salah | Diaz | Madders | Martinelli
      Haaland | C.Wilson

      4 | Neco | Andreas | Archer

      1. klopptimusprime
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        (Bowen if I downgrade Martinelli/Trippier)

      2. Albrightondknight
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Overall it is well balanced.
        I don’t get the Trippier love when for .5 more we can have someone of Perisic pedigree.
        Is Martinelli nailed?

        1. klopptimusprime
          • 9 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          Really rate Newcastles defence under Howe and hes a set peice specialist. Perisic + 5.5 defs an option
          Hopefully pre season gives some more info into nailedness

          1. Andy_Social
            • 13 Years
            3 years, 5 months ago

            Fair arguments re. Trippier. Do you intend to start him GWs 3 and 5, or will you use your bench?

            1. Disputatious Dissident
              • 5 Years
              3 years, 5 months ago

              Andreas works so well for this makes trippier destiny

            2. klopptimusprime
              • 9 Years
              3 years, 5 months ago

              If Andreas becomes a starter he has BRE GW3 and BHA GW5 both at home. Could also swap Neco to Patterson as Everton have NFO and lee home/away in that time.

              Otherwise can always start him, and other than those 2 fixtures, Newcastle have a nice opening 10 weeks

              1. Andy_Social
                • 13 Years
                3 years, 5 months ago

                I've got Andreas too, and using him for those 2 GWs seems fine. I am concerned about anyone who gets overexcited about Andeas and intends to start him too often. Yes, he'll likely be a sure-starter, and has offensive potential, but Fulham score so few goals in the PL that I doubt he'll get many scores over 2 points.

                1. klopptimusprime
                  • 9 Years
                  3 years, 5 months ago

                  My thoughts too, all I'm looking for is bench fodder who may occasionally get autosubbed.

                  Expect lots of 2s but sometimes you get lucky and last year used Brownhill in the same way and even managed to catch a couple of the hauls

    11. Andy_Social
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Re. Brentford's back up keeper - has Lossl left the club, and where did Balcombe come from? Must admit, I've not heard of him.

      1. Disputatious Dissident
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        The usual route for brentford players came from the b team. Shame they gotts scrap their system works really well

    12. svgcr
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Trying to move away from the 3mium.

      Raya

      TAA- Cancelo- James - Tomi - Jonny (or other 4.5s)

      Salah - Díaz - Kulu

      Haaland - Jesus

      4.5 - Andreas - 4.5x2

      Don’t like missing on Kane (especially for GW1) but like having 2 8.0s for flexibility.

      Any changes?

      1. Andy_Social
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Two premiums is fine - better, really. My concern with your draft is starting 2 4.5 defenders, or 2 4.5 players every week. There is so much value in upgrading at least one to a 5 or 5.5 defender that I think it would be worth slightly downgrading one starter to improve 2 more.

        1. svgcr
          • 13 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          Thanks. Really like having two 8.0 mids.

          Waiting for a cheaper mid to emerge in pre- season.

      2. Hotdogs for Tea
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        what does it look like if you change Salah with, say, Sterling or Foden etc. and spread the cash ?

        1. svgcr
          • 13 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          Looks great. Not sure I have the guts to go Salah-less:

          Raya

          TAA- Robertson - Cancelo- James- Trippier

          Sterling - Diaz- Kulu

          Haaland - Jesus

          4.0- Andreas - 4.5x2

          1. Hotdogs for Tea
            • 10 Years
            3 years, 5 months ago

            looks good, lots of captain choices

            … it’s tough to step away from Salah but he is so expensive compared to the mid priced midfielder alternatives … I think FPL has deliberately tried to price him out this year to make him less essential - not sure it is working though

          2. Andy_Social
            • 13 Years
            3 years, 5 months ago

            Yeah, that looks better. Your bench looks the same as mine - 2 active 4.5 mids will be fine; the dead GK and FWD will never be called upon (although Balcombe is the safe gk option if you stay with Raya).

    13. Bergkamp@Wonderland
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      First try this year, please for opinions.Thanks.

      Mendy (Foster)

      Tomiyasu, Mings, Regulion, Coufal, Vestergaard (rotation)

      Salah, Couthinio, Zaha, Bowen, Son

      Jesus, Darwin (Greenwood)

      1. bso
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Def way too weak. That is where the points are. Reguillon not a consistent starter. Vestergaard even less of a starter.
        I would not trust Coutinho or Zaha for regular goals/assists. Much better option with an 8mil and 6m mid.

        1. Bergkamp@Wonderland
          • 6 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          Thanks, any better options for £6 mln instead of Cuthinio and Zaha, so i can upgrade defence by Cash and Trippier?

      2. bso
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Darwin is untested in PL maybe start with Jesus and bring him in later? I also think his minutes may be managed for a while.
        Coutinho to maybe Diaz and
        Zaha (bad fixtures) to Neto.
        The only one if your defenders to keep in Tomiyasu. I would swap out the rest.

    14. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Nailed it!

      Raya
      James Chilwell Perisic Tomiyasu
      Salah Diaz Kulusevski Maddison
      Haaland Jesus

      1. Andy_Social
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Overall, it looks great to me, although I'd be hesitant over Maddison. True Leicester were unlucky with injuries last season, but with Tielemans poised to leave, they look weaker going into the new season, and don't have the best opening fixtures. With that squad I might even triple up with Arsenal and pick Saka just for the first few GWs - or Foden, Mount or some other pick.

      2. svgcr
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Looks good. Id rather have TAA + 7 mid than a second Chelsea defender + Maddison

        1. Andy_Social
          • 13 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          Agree with that. Take 1.5m out of Maddy and get Trent. I think most of us end up with Martinelli!

      3. bso
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Good team! Will have to hope that your mids make up for no TAA.

      4. Cruyff's Eleven
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Losing Rudiger et al makes a Chelsea double up risky for me. It's a wait and see I think.

    15. The FPL Units
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Thoughts on this lot?

      Raya (4.0)
      TAA Cancelo James Chilwell (N Williams)
      Salah Kulu Diaz Neto (Andreas)
      Haaland Johnson (Greenwood)

      1. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Great team that

      2. Cruyff's Eleven
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Not sure about Chelsea double up. They've lost a few key players...

    16. OPTA FPL
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      I am the only one think Diaz didnt pass the eye test last season? He run and dribbing a lot but I dont see he is clinical, jus scored some fluke lucky goals

      1. Ser Davos
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        You're not. The value still lies in Pool's backline

      2. Andy_Social
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        I wouldn't go quite that far. He did pass the eye-test for me, as a prematurely-introduced PL-inexperienced player. But he's not as clinical as Mane, it's true. What I would say is he's value at 8m, but as Ser Davos suggests, Robbo, VVD and maybe Alisson are even better value (it goes without saying so is the 0.5m cheaper TAA).

      3. klopptimusprime
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Think he's a fantastic player, but didn't seem too explosive. That said, he came in and played so many games without a pre-season under Klopp so its definitely the more risky approach to Robbo

        1. OPTA FPL
          • 14 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          great real life footballer for sure, but not sure about him as a fpl asset

      4. Disputatious Dissident
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        I think you need your vision tested there mate absolute phenom. His first months at anfield remind me of suarez, ronaldo, alexis sanchez. The type of player that just single handedly tears the opposition apart

        1. No Professionals
          • 8 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          I think that’s pushing it a little…. But don’t agree with the initial poster’s view.

      5. el polako
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Skilful, very quick, direct - great player.
        Will be among highest scoring midfielders come end of season..

        I bet my mortga... I mean full tank of petrol on it.

        1. Old Man
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          mortgage/tank of petrol - it's all the same.

    17. klopptimusprime
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      a) Saka (442)
      b) Jesus (433)

      1. OPTA FPL
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        saka more nailed, on cornet kick (arsenal great set piece goal threat), on penalty

        1. OPTA FPL
          • 14 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          1 point CS more + 1 point more per goal

          1. klopptimusprime
            • 9 Years
            3 years, 5 months ago

            that's where my heads at, also keeps the team more balanced

      2. Float
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        I'm having this exact same dilemma. Currently on Jesus after starting with Saka, but may switch back.

    18. Miami Monkey
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Best 8.0 mid besides Diaz?

      1. OPTA FPL
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        foden

      2. bso
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Best is Bowen from GW2 8.5m but worth it.

      3. klopptimusprime
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        mount/maddo explosive but more risky

      4. Nightrain_
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Somehow I kinda doubt Diaz output and maybe Robbo is a better pick with the extra fund to go for Bowen and bank the 0.5

    19. bso
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      How sure is it the Neco Williams is going to Forrest?

      1. OPTA FPL
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        99%, having medical already

        1. Andy_Social
          • 13 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          Exactly what I was going to post. He could be this season's Livramento (pre-injury) but personally, I wouldn't have him in my opening squad. I'm happy to wait until I wildcard and see how he does for a few games.

          1. OPTA FPL
            • 14 Years
            3 years, 5 months ago

            yup, this year we have lots of cheap great def at 4.5, so 4.0 is not the biggest bargain. Even lots of people play 5 premium def at the back, they dont want to waste a defenfer slot for 4-4.5 def. Actually premium def have most point per game

      2. Warby84
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Think I’ll get him in to have the extra .5 itb

      3. Old Man
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        100% - already gone through

    20. bso
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Great thanks Opta. Need that .5 to bring in Bowen in GW2.

      1. OPTA FPL
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        dont worry, you have 10 other 8M mid to buy

    21. SpaceCadet
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Which one of these would you NOT have in your team?

      a, diaz
      b. foden
      c. maddison
      d. mount
      e. kulu

      1. Miami Monkey
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Madison

      2. The Tinkerman
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        E, until I understand better how the Spurs front line will rotate with new additions

        1. SpaceCadet
          • 12 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          Yea was thinking the same. Thanks

      3. Ze_Austin
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Foden: Pep

        Maddison: fixtures pre-WC1. Same with Kulusevski & Bowen. Liverpool, City, Chelsea and Arsenal fixtures look much kinder for their attackers, on paper. They are all somewhat fixture proof, to be fair, but when it comes to fine margins... Better fixtures win out in my mind

        1. SpaceCadet
          • 12 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          Thanks

      4. Make FPL Casual Again
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Diaz, maybe Foden

        Robertson a far better ppm at 1m less, and significantly better than Cancelo ar same price

        Foden position unclear, disappointing fpl returns last season after a couple of hauls

        Kulu highest ppm, returning almost every game, some big hauls

        Maddison seems to have turned a corner fpl wise, plenty of double digit returns

    22. saurabh.06
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      I am very happy to win 2nd prize in guess the price competition. Thanks FFS.
      May I know what the 2nd prize?

      1. The Knights Template
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Tis a prawn sandwich. Will be mailed to you.

    23. Ze_Austin
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Currently sitting on this until preseason, transfers and injuries cause some changes

      Martinez
      TAA James Cancelo Tierney Perisic
      (C)Salah (VC)Mount Martinelli Diaz
      Haaland

      Balcombe Andreas Greenwood Stansfield

      Starting with Martinez for a chance to choose a good 4.5 GK with a good fixture run when Aston Villa's great-but-brief run ends. That's the only locked in transfer, and that's around GWs 3 to 5

      With 5 subs and Jesse Marsch's tendency to use them, I think there'll be regular 1-pointers from Greenwood to make up for Haaland's no-shows, but he's there as my second captain until WC1 due to fixtures... Or he's gone much earlier if Pep does his magic to make the no-shows far too regular

      Wondering if Perisic can wait for the first wildcard. Most other decisions are based on fixture runs that end around GW10. Hence Diaz and Mount over, say, Kulu and Maddison

      Martinelli could be any of the emerging 6.5s (monitoring Sinisterra, Trossard, JWP and Rashford) or even Neto, but I don't know which one yet. Tierney could be Trippier or Digne for the early hauls, but Arsenal options feel better as default due to fixtures. That's a few spots to play around with as options emerge, I think

      Or just WC in GW3 😀

      I'm more quiet now due to some other obligations, but I still go through the pages for the usual FFS gems. So I'm still here, I guess 🙂

      Good luck, one and all

      1. The Mentaculus
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Good luck Ze! Always liked your posts. Happy to hear from you when you have time

    24. Warby84
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      My squad;

      Mendy
      Trent Cancelo Cash Justin
      Salah Neto Diaz
      Jesus Haaland Johnson

      Lis BrunoG N.Williams AndreasP

      Thoughts??

      1. Old Man
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Looks good for 4-3-3. I like the Justin pick but I'm not sure about Bruno G.

        1. Piggs Boson
          • 14 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          Is Justin nailed?

          Thought Castagne would be more secure...

          1. Old Man
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            3 years, 5 months ago

            Yes I would prefer Castagne, but only very slightly. Justin might turn out to be the better in the long run.

      2. The Knights Template
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Not too bad, bit light in the mids for me, the price of Haaland I guess.

      3. Bartowski
        • 15 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Think I'd go with Raya and get another 4m defender for Justin so I could upgrade Cash to James or Chilwell.

      4. svgcr
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        If you’re not playing Bruno G vs NFO at home, then would you ever?

        Might as well downgrade to a 4.5 and upgrade Neto, Johnson or Justin.

    25. lilmessipran
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Why are people so excited about Williams getting his move to Forest like he is the second coming of Guy Demel? Is it because we will finally have a starting defender at 4.0 this season? Surely, with the pricing this season and so so many good 4.5 defenders it is not worth a valuable defender spot?

      1. Bartowski
        • 15 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Still need someone to prop up the bench.

      2. Andy_Social
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        I'd liken him more to Livramento and how he started last season. If he was priced after his move, he'd be 4.5 and there wouldn't be much discussion. So yes, I think there's a bit of overexcitement about his 4.0 price. But Forest are strengthening well at the back, so I'd definitely put him on my prominent watchlist with a view to bringing him on soon, or on my wildcard. So he's a decent option for me, but I'd want to wait and see a bit.

      3. Nightrain_
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        maybe because there's an excitement of having a cheapie defender from promoted side that can surprise many teams in the first 10 GWs, just like what Lundstram, Dallas, Doherty, AWB did in the past ?

        I remember all of them able to give several double digit points in the early season

      4. lilmessipran
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        The point I am trying to highlight is the importance of the fifth defender spot vs saving 0.5 with the kind of pricing this year...for our 4 other defenders we refuse to go anywhere else outside even the top 4 defenses...for 4.5 we can get an Ars/Wolves/ other strong defenses and a player that can be start/first sub easily for the first 8 gws..there are so many value players in the game that sacrificing a valuable defender spot for a newly promoted team doesnt make a lot of sense

        1. Andy_Social
          • 13 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          I wouldn't do it myself - not until his value is proven - but I can see many people are still wedded to 4 at the back (interestingly I've seen no arguments promoting the old 343 yet) and so they want a 4.0 to park on the bench to maybe enable a cheap mid or fwd.

    26. h3nh3n
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Rate my team:

      Meslier (Klaesson)
      TAA Cancelo James Peresic (Tomiyasu)
      Salah Diaz Neto Martinelli (Andreas)
      Haaland Jesus (Plange)

      Tempted to shift from template with Olise instead of Martinelli...

      Thoughts?

      1. Nightrain_
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        i think this is very template unless you play around with Chilwell and maybe pick Rashford and no Jesus but Wilson ?

        1. h3nh3n
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          Good suggestions. I'm thinking that a Wilson in my first wildcard around gameweek 6 could be the way

    27. The Knights Template
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      What are the best PS3 games? Mine nephew is giving me his.

      1. Andy_Social
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Bit new-fangled for me, but they must have PS3 version of Grand Theft Auto, God of War and Far Cry.

      2. ritzyd
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        PS3? Classics then. GTA5, Red Dead Redemption, Skyrim, The last of us, metal gear solid (4), assasins creed black flag (think it was released on ps3?), unchartered 3, fight night, old fifa games

      3. el polako
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        For yourself ?

        Castelvania.

      4. JRD
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        the warriors ( rockstar games )

        1. @persecuted_by_mods
            3 years, 5 months ago

            Legendary option

        2. MADCHESTER UTD
          • 10 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          FIFA 13 is widely considered to be the best FIFA. I have it on 360 and it’s mega! PES 2013 is amazing pro evo. BLUR is like mario kart with real cars plus you can do 4 player split screen. F1 2010. NFS HOT PUTSUIT

        3. Bartowski
          • 15 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          Split/Second

        4. Ser Davos
          • 10 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          Uncharted 1-3
          Metal Gear Solid 4
          God of War 3

          fantastic exclusives

        5. Scapegoat Salah
          • 9 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          Hitman HD trilogy

          My all time favourite, dated mechanics now but too much nostalgia with that series!

          1. The Knights Template
            • 12 Years
            3 years, 5 months ago

            Thanks everyone, very helpful. Haven’t played video games in earnest since mine Galaga days at high school.

      5. JRD
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        son picking up hes teammates at the airport in Seoul like a real taxi driver.
        welcome to seoul.

      6. Andy_Social
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        4.5 Keeper:

        I'm on Raya at the moment, but I can't help noticing what a superb run of opening fixtures Meslier has. Six of his first seven opening games (Chelsea being the exception) are against fairly flaccid attacks, suggesting he could pick up plenty save points as well as a few clean sheets. If this time Leeds can go into the season without half their defence out injured due to murderball, he could be golden until a wildcard is played.

        1. The Knights Template
          • 12 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          Sneaky Sa punt worth a thought or two.

      7. MADCHESTER UTD
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        I’m on pick n stick Mendy

        1. Andy_Social
          • 13 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          That's fair enough. I'm considering him, but want to see who comes in at centre back for Chelsea first. He's also highly owned, whereas Meslier has only 1/10th of his ownership at the moment.