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19 January 2023 1623 comments
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There’s one more Double Gameweek 20 match to go and it’s a big one.

Manchester City v Tottenham Hotspur is the fixture in question, with kick-off at the Etihad Stadium set for 20:00 GMT.

Four Man City assets boast double-digit ownerships in the top 10k, but two of them aren’t part of Pep Guardiola’s starting XI tonight. It’s Ederson and the heavily captained Erling Haaland who get the nod, with Joao Cancelo and Kevin De Bruyne on the bench.

Above: FPL assets sorted by ‘effective ownership’ in the top 10k (via LiveFPL)

Guardiola makes five changes overall from Saturday’s defeat at Old Trafford: Kyle Walker, Cancelo, De Bruyne, Bernardo Silva and Phil Foden are replaced by John Stones, Rico Lewis, Ilkay Gundogan, Jack Grealish and Julian Alvarez.

Antonio Conte, meanwhile, makes four alterations after losing 2-0 at home to Arsenal, with Ben Davies, Emerson Royal, Ivan Perisic and Rodrigo Bentancur coming in for Clement Lenglet, Matt Doherty, Ryan Sessegnon and Pape Sarr.

Harry Kane – who has scored three of his four goals against Man City in all competitions at the Etihad – leads the line, flanked by Dejan Kulusevski and Son Heung-min.

GAMEWEEK 20 LINE-UPS

Manchester City XI: Ederson, Lewis, Stones, Akanji, Ake, Rodri, Gundogan, Grealish, Mahrez, Alvarez, Haaland

Subs: Ortega, Laporte, Walker, Phillips, Dias, Cancelo, De Bruyne, Bernardo, Foden

Tottenham Hotspur XI: Lloris, Romero, Dier, Davies, Royal, Hojbjerg, Bentancur, Perisic, Kulusevski, Son, Kane

Subs: Forster, Sanchez, Doherty, Sessegnon, Tanganga, Sarr, Lenglet, Bissouma, Richarlison

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  1. THFC4LIFE
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    COYS!!!

  2. Drumandbaines123
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    I reckon Kane was shooting trying to get it to rebound in off Ederson

    1. THFC4LIFE
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Looked a shot to me, he drilled it

    2. Paqueta Rice
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Yeah but it was going across goal not at goal so therefore not on target right? Which means cross not shot. Which means no assist right?

      1. Paqueta Rice
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Clutching here 😆

      2. A. PRISE
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Fpl towers is the answer to your question

      3. THFC4LIFE
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Honestly not a clue but I want the Kane points lol

  3. Freshy
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Was so close to Kepa to Ed

    1. white91
      • 16 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      I did this exact move as Kepa was letting a lot in and Ederson has 2 double gameweeks

  4. Jet5605
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Got 2 FT and never thought I'd be shipping Salah & KDB > Odegard and Mitoma in the same GW.

  5. BrockLanders
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Ederson has been brilliant over the double.. *sigh*

  6. Free Hat
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Not saying it should be an assist,
    but surely it wasnt a cross by Kane but a shot. Just not on target.

    1. Pat Bonner
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      If it’s a shot it’s an assist

      1. g40steve
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Finally

      2. Free Hat
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Dont know the rules on that one, but for me that was clearly a shot, no cross.

        1. Pat Bonner
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          3 years, 1 month ago

          Rules are simple. If rebound from shot it’s an assist. If he was crossing it to someone else it’s not an assist

          1. Free Hat
            • 6 Years
            3 years, 1 month ago

            We will see I guess!

    2. SouthCoastSaint
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Nope. Sorry

    3. Sif
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Needs to be clarity/consistancy.

      On/Off Target is a binary fact. Off-target shot/Cross is unknowable and subjective.

      1. Free Hat
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        True. Didnt say it was an assist, just saying that was clearly a shot

    4. Sun Jihai
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      The shot does not have to be on target to result in an assist.

      1. Free Hat
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Lets see what they decide.
        But people saying it was a cross need to check their vision.
        Think Kane has a better technique than drilling in a cross that hard from so close to nobody...

        1. Pat Bonner
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          3 years, 1 month ago

          It’s not what they decide. The rules are very consistent

  7. Zalk
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Not sure a parried cross counts as an assist.

    1. A. PRISE
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      It's not but fpl towers think so

    2. jacob1989
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      its a shot not a cross

  8. Dr.Oftaw
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Trossard in for 4 Arsenal double game week players anyone?

    1. Zalk
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Wow, might not be a bad idea.

    2. OptimusBlack
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Yay think about that with
      Ward Ramsdale
      Tripper Shaw Mee White Patt
      KDB Rashford Almiron Ødegaard Mahrez
      Kane Haaland © Mitro

  9. TheBiffas
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Definitely an assist (I'm not watching)

  10. SouthCoastSaint
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    That is not a Kane assist by the rules of the game.

    It’s not even up for debate

    1. DycheDycheBaby
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Yet that won't stop FPL towers form giving it as they randomly give and take assists away this season.

    2. Mr. O'Connell
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      It'll get removed

      1. Mr. O'Connell
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Nah actually. It's a shot. Doesn't matter if it's on target.

        1. Mr. O'Connell
          • 13 Years
          3 years, 1 month ago

          I've seen Kane get assists from shooting backwards

        2. SouthCoastSaint
          • 14 Years
          3 years, 1 month ago

          It really isn’t, he wraps his foot round it as you would for a cross not a shot.

          It’s mental if that gets given

          1. Mr. O'Connell
            • 13 Years
            3 years, 1 month ago

            It's what we call in the business a cross-shot. Agree to disagree, award him 1.5 points and move on?

            1. SouthCoastSaint
              • 14 Years
              3 years, 1 month ago

              Laughing, deal

              1. Mr. O'Connell
                • 13 Years
                3 years, 1 month ago

                Pleasure doing business

    3. Sun Jihai
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      ‘Assist - TBC’

  11. Hey_Arnold
    • 13 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Comeback on. Get ready for De Bruyne/Haaland show.

  12. Gizzachance
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    3 players tonight, Kulu, Kane, t/c Haaland not joining in the fun

    1. white91
      • 16 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      At least my TC is one less thing to worry about, I went Haaland against my gut feeling but with the knowledge this was a double he was likely to play both games

  13. Krafty Werks
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Happy Kulu & Kane owner at half-time, KDB to come on 2nd half too now I reckon?

  14. GENERATION X
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Starting to wish id TC’d Mane

    1. Assisting the assister
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Or Weghorst

  15. Ibralicious
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Absolutely ridiculous how Pep and Klopp keep their jobs despite dropping millions and stinking it up month after month, while Tuchel gets the sack over an improving Chelsea side...

    1. TheBiffas
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Hahahahaha what on earth is this mate

    2. Pat Bonner
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Not sure chelsea are best example of changing managers

    3. TheBiffas
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      You're lucky the pages are flying at the moment so this won't get seen by that many

    4. Total Slotball
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Klopp dropped millions? Where? Tuchel sack was down to change in ownership and not fitting their criteria

    5. Lieutenant Frank Columbo
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Speechless

    6. KanuLenoMeeMoCash
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      I think Tuchel was harshly sacked but come on man, Pep & Klopp have a hell of a lot of credit in the bank

  16. DropkickMurphys
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    I’d say he will bring Cancelo at the half time, then KDB 5 mins later.

  17. The Mandalorian
    • 13 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Man City lost 3 EPL games in 38 matches last season.

    If they lose tonight that's 4 EPL loses in 19 games.

    Are City looking worse with Haaland rather than a false 9?

    1. F4L
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      nah midfield/defence is struggling

    2. Make United Great Again
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Yes they do. Doesn’t help that Pep changes his defence every match though.

      Need a solid foundation.

      1. Lieutenant Frank Columbo
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Yeah, if you have a winning formula….change it … lol

  18. Sun Jihai
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Kane assist given

    1. Nomar
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Yay!

    2. A. PRISE
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      There was never a doubt.

  19. gooberman
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Kane assist will be removed I'm sure. Not sure why it was awarded in the first place. Was clearly a cross and not a shot.

    1. Mr. O'Connell
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Who's he crossing it to?

      1. KanuLenoMeeMoCash
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        What's he shooting at?

        1. gooberman
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          3 years, 1 month ago

          Yes you are right. Just looked at it again. It cant have been a cross as there was nobody there to cross to.

          He has basically just blasted it at the keeper and hoped to either score from it or for somebody to score from the rebound so it was technically a shot so therefore an FPL assist.

        2. Mr. O'Connell
          • 13 Years
          3 years, 1 month ago

          The goal. He just missed it.

      2. The Bandit
        • 15 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        And smashing it too

      3. C-Dawgg
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        What was he shooting at? The linesman?

    2. The Bandit
      • 15 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Lol, you are a proper shitetalker

  20. KanuLenoMeeMoCash
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    If kdb not on at HT Pep is giving up on title

    1. jacob1989
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      no kdb

  21. KeanosMagic
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Wow. I was going to get Ederson in given the future double. Might not bother now

  22. Lieutenant Frank Columbo
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Spurs helping Arsenal on the way to the title …. Saucy.

  23. Serresiete
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Hold cancelo. Gold for wolves bai

  24. Ze_Austin
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Kane does too many things well

    That tackle was too good for a forward. The ball, and the ball alone, while going too ground

    1. Ze_Austin
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      *going to ground

      Too many too's

    2. Mr. O'Connell
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Great attributes 1264950
      Trophies 0

      1. Lieutenant Frank Columbo
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Shearer #2

      2. Ze_Austin
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Just needs a move to a serially winning side, and he's most likely an improvement on the striker he replaces

  25. Granville
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 16 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    That wasn't a Kane shot.

    1. Sif
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      The only person who knows is Kane, which is why it's a stupid rule.

    2. The Bandit
      • 15 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Of course it was, who who he smashing a pass to?

      1. C-Dawgg
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        It’s pretty common for players to just drill the ball across the goal without having a target in mind

      2. Granville
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 16 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        He drilled it into the box. it wasn't a shot.

      3. Paqueta Rice
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        It’s going away from goal to be fair

    3. Bobby Digital
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Who was he crossing to then? There was no one there...

      1. Granville
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 16 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Into the danger area. This isn't binary. It was effectively a cross.

  26. Mike2795647
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Good on spurs, city suffering as pep keeps pissing about with his line up, serves him right

    1. MADCHESTER UTD
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Yep he’s brilliant but too clever for his own good sometimes. Like when he suddenly changed formation/Rodri is CL final vs Chelsea despite not playing that way all season

  27. MADCHESTER UTD
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Might as well have tripled captained Marlon Harewood

  28. Maxroma22
    • 3 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Ederson needs dropping, terrible

    1. Londongeezaa
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Add Kepa and Lloris to this.

      Keepers are very questionable at present

    2. Coldplay
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Not like the backup did wonders in the Carabao the other day

  29. Paqueta Rice
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Sorry but that is never going in or on target, can not be counted as a shot on goal and therefore no assist

    1. F4L
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      don't think it matters if on target or not

      1. SouthCoastSaint
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        It’s not a shot. Seriously, what is everyone watching?

        Are people just blindly saying it’s a shot? Clearly crossing

        1. F4L
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 1 month ago

          yeah i don't think it was a shot either, but i guess they've given kane benefit of the doubt

    2. Paqueta Rice
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Emerson was certainly not the intended target

    3. Shteve
      • 16 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      It doesn't matter if its going in or not or if its on target or not. If its a shot, its an assist.

    4. Pat Bonner
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Doesn’t matter if on target. Was it a shot or cross is all fpl/opta go on

      1. Paqueta Rice
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        It was going away from goal!

  30. putana
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Clear shot by Kane. Drilled it right at ederson

    1. KanuLenoMeeMoCash
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Shot it backwards smh