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19 January 2023 1623 comments
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There’s one more Double Gameweek 20 match to go and it’s a big one.

Manchester City v Tottenham Hotspur is the fixture in question, with kick-off at the Etihad Stadium set for 20:00 GMT.

Four Man City assets boast double-digit ownerships in the top 10k, but two of them aren’t part of Pep Guardiola’s starting XI tonight. It’s Ederson and the heavily captained Erling Haaland who get the nod, with Joao Cancelo and Kevin De Bruyne on the bench.

Above: FPL assets sorted by ‘effective ownership’ in the top 10k (via LiveFPL)

Guardiola makes five changes overall from Saturday’s defeat at Old Trafford: Kyle Walker, Cancelo, De Bruyne, Bernardo Silva and Phil Foden are replaced by John Stones, Rico Lewis, Ilkay Gundogan, Jack Grealish and Julian Alvarez.

Antonio Conte, meanwhile, makes four alterations after losing 2-0 at home to Arsenal, with Ben Davies, Emerson Royal, Ivan Perisic and Rodrigo Bentancur coming in for Clement Lenglet, Matt Doherty, Ryan Sessegnon and Pape Sarr.

Harry Kane – who has scored three of his four goals against Man City in all competitions at the Etihad – leads the line, flanked by Dejan Kulusevski and Son Heung-min.

GAMEWEEK 20 LINE-UPS

Manchester City XI: Ederson, Lewis, Stones, Akanji, Ake, Rodri, Gundogan, Grealish, Mahrez, Alvarez, Haaland

Subs: Ortega, Laporte, Walker, Phillips, Dias, Cancelo, De Bruyne, Bernardo, Foden

Tottenham Hotspur XI: Lloris, Romero, Dier, Davies, Royal, Hojbjerg, Bentancur, Perisic, Kulusevski, Son, Kane

Subs: Forster, Sanchez, Doherty, Sessegnon, Tanganga, Sarr, Lenglet, Bissouma, Richarlison

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  1. Vasshin
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 19 days ago

    Cancelo and mount to Botman and salah for -4 yay or nah

    And captain salah as differential since everyone got rid of him

    1. Royal5
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 19 days ago

      Salah!? 😯

    2. sulldaddy
      • 15 Years
      3 years, 19 days ago

      Wouldnt bring in Salah.

  2. Ask Yourself
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 19 days ago

    Surely got to stick with Haaland (C) haven’t we?

    1. Qaiss
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 19 days ago

      Him, KDB or Kane

    2. Mirror Man
        3 years, 19 days ago

        Leaders Lounge approved. Upvote locked in.

    3. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 19 days ago

      Toney or Gnonto?

      1. Royal5
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 19 days ago

        Toney by a country mile

    4. Letsgo!
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 19 days ago

      Will u capt kdb or toney for gw21?

      1. Hairy Potter
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 19 days ago

        Currently on Haaland, but tempted to go Toney.

      2. Mirror Man
          3 years, 19 days ago

          Leaders Lounge pro's say this is a big silly billy manoeuvre. 98% agree, 2% are asleep.

      3. white91
        • 16 Years
        3 years, 19 days ago

        Ederson massive let down

        1. Mirror Man
            3 years, 19 days ago

            I tried to warn them but they wouldn't listen

          • The FPL Units
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 15 Years
            3 years, 19 days ago

            Low ceiling

        2. FPLMACKEM
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 19 days ago

          Kepa
          White, Cancelo, Trippier
          KDB, Martinelli, Rashford, Almiron
          Haaland(c), Toney, Mitrovic

          Ward, Andreas, Shaw, Patterson

          3.6 ITB 1FT.

          Will likely roll the transfer. Only main decision is:

          A Kepa
          B Ward

          1. Big_Andy_GAWA
            • 14 Years
            3 years, 19 days ago

            Looks good. Am in the same predictament myself re: the two GK's. Playing Ward at this moment.

            Any suggestions re: my post below? 🙂

          2. Royal5
            • 14 Years
            3 years, 19 days ago

            Thinking Kepa for saves pwrsonally

          3. dunas_dog
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 10 Years
            3 years, 19 days ago

            I have same 2 and playing Kepa for save points

        3. Big_Andy_GAWA
          • 14 Years
          3 years, 19 days ago

          Last chance saloon for Cancelo and Foden this coming weekend for me. Anyhoo, what transfer do I do:

          A) Rodrigo
          B) Ødegaard

          I've no Arsenal assets as yet (I know!!) and need to get in for DGW23.

          Many Thanks.

          1. Riders of Yohan
            • 7 Years
            3 years, 19 days ago

            B for me, bamford being back puts me off Rodr

            1. Big_Andy_GAWA
              • 14 Years
              3 years, 19 days ago

              Cheers. Am swaying that way too. Would probably mean benching Martial. No idea if he's gonna be fit or not, but he's a blooming enigma, either way! 😆

          2. Tonyawesome69
            • 7 Years
            3 years, 19 days ago

            Ode

          3. FPLMACKEM
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 5 Years
            3 years, 19 days ago

            Odegaard for the long term.

          4. dunas_dog
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 10 Years
            3 years, 19 days ago

            In that case Ødegaard has to be your transfer

        4. eivtho
          • 10 Years
          3 years, 19 days ago

          Will Toney be banned in the near future? Martial - Toney for -4?

          1. Riders of Yohan
            • 7 Years
            3 years, 19 days ago

            Not worth the hit for me as Toney is a short term pick

            1. eivtho
              • 10 Years
              3 years, 19 days ago

              I agree!

          2. Tonyawesome69
            • 7 Years
            3 years, 19 days ago

            If Martial is out then it might be worth the hit

            1. eivtho
              • 10 Years
              3 years, 19 days ago

              Yea, but I have to make the move tonight. Any News about the ban?

              1. Tonyawesome69
                • 7 Years
                3 years, 19 days ago

                Nope no update. If you really want Toney and think he gets good points this GW, the potential ban shouldn't put you off him.

          3. Onz
            • 8 Years
            3 years, 19 days ago

            Interesting dilemma, Toney should have been suspended imo, but by the time they announce a decision it will be close to the end of the season. I took him out of my squad because I thought a ruling would be made and missed some nice points as a consequence. My stubbornness in not getting him back will hurt my OR but my conscience is clear.

            1. eivtho
              • 10 Years
              3 years, 19 days ago

              Sometimes you have to play aggressive. Missed out on a lot of Mahrez points by playing safe with no hits

              1. Boberella
                • 9 Years
                3 years, 19 days ago

                I’ve taken a hit to get him in this week, for Darwin. I’m chasing and 2m OR, so starting to do more hits for higher upside.

          4. Mirror Man
              3 years, 19 days ago

              Define near

          5. DandyDon
            • 7 Years
            3 years, 19 days ago

            Evening, so I’m still in the cup and my opponent has Mahrez so drew level with me on 77pts! Who goes through!?

            1. Sheffield Wednesday
              • 5 Years
              3 years, 19 days ago

              If a cup match is drawn, then the following tie-breaks will be applied until a winner is found:

              Most goals scored in the Gameweek
              Fewest goals conceded in the Gameweek
              Virtual coin toss

            2. Big_Andy_GAWA
              • 14 Years
              3 years, 19 days ago

              Think it boils down to rank, though not 100% sure...

              1. DandyDon
                • 7 Years
                3 years, 19 days ago

                Was hoping for this! If it’s goals scored I’m out 4-3

                1. Sheffield Wednesday
                  • 5 Years
                  3 years, 19 days ago

                  What I wrote above is cut and pasted from the rules section for Cups.
                  https://fantasy.premierleague.com/help/rules

                  1. Deulofail
                    • 10 Years
                    3 years, 19 days ago

                    Could you paste it back in the rules section please, it looks a bit messy now

                    1. Mirror Man
                        3 years, 19 days ago

                        Amateur hour

                      • Sheffield Wednesday
                        • 5 Years
                        3 years, 19 days ago

                        You're right! Good thing I actually copy and pasted! Rules section could disappear at this rate.

              2. Mirror Man
                  3 years, 19 days ago

                  **FREE PROMOTIONAL CONTENT**

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                  2) head to the rules section
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              3. No Kane No Gain
                • 7 Years
                3 years, 19 days ago

                Sorry if this has been regularly asked but apart from Man United, which other teams potentially could double in 21 or 22?!

                1. CrouchDown
                  • 13 Years
                  3 years, 19 days ago

                  I think either Leeds or Brentford

              4. Tic Tacs
                • 5 Years
                3 years, 19 days ago

                Wow, who knew that a Mahrez punt would actually pay off for once!

                1. DandyDon
                  • 7 Years
                  3 years, 19 days ago

                  I see he’s most transferred in tonight following the match but we all know Pep loves to bench him when he’s in his best form!

                2. Mirror Man
                    3 years, 19 days ago

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                3. Shark Team
                  • 8 Years
                  3 years, 19 days ago

                  Do you think Odegaard hauls this gw?
                  Want to bring him in for 22 anyways so it’s the same taking him this gw but starting him over Rashford

                4. Camzy
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 15 Years
                  3 years, 19 days ago

                  Anyone else tempted to WC?

                  I have the most template team possible and it feels far from optimal. I'd change quite a lot of players if I was on a WC this week.

                  Mahrez, Odegaard, Saka in. Out with Cancelo, Almiron, Mitrovic etc. Feels like an opportunity but it's really rogue to WC now and there will likely be weeks where I'll desperately need another one. But it's not too hard to defend rank from being ahead. This feels like an opportunity to get ahead.

                  1. Bluetiger1
                    • 3 Years
                    3 years, 19 days ago

                    Go for it

                    Agree a lot of tempplate teams

                    Look for opportunities before others now with fixtures/players

                  2. Tonyawesome69
                    • 7 Years
                    3 years, 19 days ago

                    I think you should hold off 1 more GW so you get all the info on potential DGW22, BGW25 and BGW28. This should allow you to WC with more certainty

                    1. Camzy
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 15 Years
                      3 years, 19 days ago

                      Yeah this is most likely what I'll do. Hold off and be patient. But I think I will take a few hits over the next few gameweeks. KdB > Mahrez looks like a likely move as well as Cancelo out.

                  3. Mirror Man
                      3 years, 19 days ago

                      Leaders Lounge pro's do not agree and are not tempted.

                    • stooshermadness
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 16 Years
                      3 years, 19 days ago

                      Very tempted. I think this is a decent time to WC actually. I'd like to move Cancelo, KdB and a few others. Double Newcastle defense and Arsenal midfield are priorities and Kane as well. There are some decent punts out there as well - BHA options.

                  4. the dom 1
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 11 Years
                    3 years, 19 days ago

                    2FTs available.

                    a. Cancelo > Akanji or Mee or ????

                    b. Cancelo and Mitro > one of def above and Toney.

                    Thoughts pls

                    1. Tonyawesome69
                      • 7 Years
                      3 years, 19 days ago

                      Just Cancelo out but not sure who the replacement would be.

                      1. the dom 1
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 11 Years
                        3 years, 19 days ago

                        Looks like he’s about to drop again and Toney rise so need to do asap I feel

                        1. Tonyawesome69
                          • 7 Years
                          3 years, 19 days ago

                          I'm not fussed about player prices at the moment. Lots of value around this season which allows me to hold off for confirmed info

                  5. Norco
                    • 11 Years
                    3 years, 19 days ago

                    How was that not given as an Ederson assist by the way... inconsistent.

                    1. Mirror Man
                        3 years, 19 days ago

                        First rule of FPL: no questions please.

                        TIA

                    2. Tonyawesome69
                      • 7 Years
                      3 years, 19 days ago

                      Positive quotes on Ake and Lewis from Pep suggests Cancelo is not starting the next game.

                      A. Save FT and start Shaw ahead of Cancelo
                      B. Transfer out Cancelo

                      1FT 0.4 ITB
                      Kepa
                      Tripper White Shaw
                      Almiron KDB Rashford Martinelli
                      Mitro Haaland Kane
                      (Ward Andreas Cancelo Patterson)

                      1. the dom 1
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 11 Years
                        3 years, 19 days ago

                        B see above

                        1. Tonyawesome69
                          • 7 Years
                          3 years, 19 days ago

                          Problem is the replacements I'm looking at likely blank in 25.

                    3. OptimusBlack
                      • 12 Years
                      3 years, 19 days ago

                      Ramsdale (Ward)
                      Tripper Mee White ( ShawPatt)
                      KDB Rashford Mahrez Ødegaard (Alimron)
                      Kane Haaland © Mitro
                      1FT 0.1 itb
                      Any thoughts here ?

                    4. Deulofail
                      • 10 Years
                      3 years, 19 days ago

                      Good to go?

                      Iversen
                      Shaw Trippier Botman
                      KDB Mahrez Kulusevski(v) Rashford
                      Haaland(c) Kane Nketiah

                      Ward | Andreas (TOT), Patterson**, Perraud (AVL)

                      1. Deulofail
                        • 10 Years
                        3 years, 19 days ago

                        1FT. 0.2 ITB

                      2. Tonyawesome69
                        • 7 Years
                        3 years, 19 days ago

                        Yes

                    5. Skengzema
                      • 8 Years
                      3 years, 19 days ago

                      is Martial to Toney a no brainer (1ft and leaves me with 1m itb)

                      1. Tonyawesome69
                        • 7 Years
                        3 years, 19 days ago

                        Yes if Martial is still out

                    6. Lord Flashheart
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 14 Years
                      3 years, 19 days ago

                      foden to anyone up to 8.2?

                      i have salah odegard foden rashford andreas

                      1. Deulofail
                        • 10 Years
                        3 years, 19 days ago

                        Saka

                      2. Tonyawesome69
                        • 7 Years
                        3 years, 19 days ago

                        Brighton mid

                        1. Lord Flashheart
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 14 Years
                          3 years, 19 days ago

                          mitoma is calling my name indeed

                      3. Big_Andy_GAWA
                        • 14 Years
                        3 years, 19 days ago

                        Surely keep Foden for WOL ?!

                        1. Deulofail
                          • 10 Years
                          3 years, 19 days ago

                          Then switch to Mudryk!

                        2. Mirror Man
                            3 years, 19 days ago

                            Whimpering Out Loud?

                      4. Big_Andy_GAWA
                        • 14 Years
                        3 years, 19 days ago

                        Guys, who do I prioritise getting in first: Saka or Ødegaard?

                        Thanks in advance.

                        1. Kay317
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 6 Years
                          3 years, 19 days ago

                          I guess if you're definitely going to be getting both then just prioritise the one who seems to be rising in price the quickest.

                          1. Big_Andy_GAWA
                            • 14 Years
                            3 years, 19 days ago

                            Was thinking that. Saka up against Shaw not amazingly enticing, but ya never know as great player. Andreas dropping and Odey close to rise, so reckon I'll go with that...

                        2. Corona is not good 4 U
                          • 5 Years
                          3 years, 19 days ago

                          I think Odegaard.

                        3. Royal5
                          • 14 Years
                          3 years, 19 days ago

                          Martin Overdose

                        4. Deulofail
                          • 10 Years
                          3 years, 19 days ago

                          Odegaard because Saka's on 4YCs and Odegaard is cheaper: it's good to keep your funds available in case you change your mind about getting both in between buying the first and second one. Odegaard more likely to rise in price too due to his lower price (and is close to a rise already).

                          1. Big_Andy_GAWA
                            • 14 Years
                            3 years, 18 days ago

                            Much appreciated, dude - I'd forgotten about that aspect of things regarding Saka. 🙂

                      5. Corona is not good 4 U
                        • 5 Years
                        3 years, 19 days ago

                        What to do with this lot?

                        Kepa (Ward)
                        Trippier, White, Botman (Shaw) (Walker)
                        De Bruyne, Rashford, Martinelli, Almiron (Andreas)
                        Haaland, Kane, Mitrovic

                        1 free transfer and 2.2 in the bank.

                        Thank you!

                        1. cigan
                          • 7 Years
                          3 years, 18 days ago

                          Save unless Walker looks like dropping (in that case drop him for a cheap bench warmer like Bueno)

                          1. Corona is not good 4 U
                            • 5 Years
                            3 years, 18 days ago

                            Thank you!

                      6. cigan
                        • 7 Years
                        3 years, 19 days ago

                        Who's your favourite cheap (4-5m) defender for the next 3-5 games or so (to rotate with White)?

                        Botman? Aurier? Estupinan?
                        Ignoring Brentford as I already have Raya

                        1. Boberella
                          • 9 Years
                          3 years, 18 days ago

                          If you don’t have double Newcastle defence then Botman. Otherwise Aurier looks good.

                      7. ekul the lokonga enthusiast
                        • 10 Years
                        3 years, 19 days ago

                        Stick or twist with de bruyne?

                        1. Big_Andy_GAWA
                          • 14 Years
                          3 years, 18 days ago

                          Definitely keep for Wolves fixture, IMO!

                        2. cigan
                          • 7 Years
                          3 years, 18 days ago

                          Keeping for 1 more week

                        3. dunas_dog
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 10 Years
                          3 years, 18 days ago

                          Keep for game against team he scored 4 goals against 8 months ago. He is third highest scoring mid behind Ødegaard and Almiron and seventh highest overall.

                      8. OptimusBlack
                        • 12 Years
                        3 years, 18 days ago

                        Which is better ?
                        A- Play Mahrez Bench Almiron

                        B- Almiron > Mitoma Bnech Mahrez or Mitro

                        1. Kay317
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 6 Years
                          3 years, 18 days ago

                          I did Almiron to Mitoma to beat price changes and now I have a similar dilemma. See below.
                          I think Almiron to Mitoma is a good move and if it's for free then crack on.
                          I wouldnt bench Mitro.
                          After tonight's performance you'd think Pep would play Mahrez again on the weekend as he's his most in form player, but we all know he doesn't always do what we think he will!
                          Having said that, I'd be more worried about benching Mahrez than Mitoma. So I think I'm swaying towards starting Mahrez.

                          1. OptimusBlack
                            • 12 Years
                            3 years, 18 days ago

                            I Think he would still playing him he best player now in his team but he may just play about 60 minutes so still we don't know 90 minutes for mitoma or maybe 60 for Mahrez

                      9. Kay317
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 6 Years
                        3 years, 18 days ago

                        Start one:
                        A) Mahrez
                        B) Mitoma

                        1. dunas_dog
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 10 Years
                          3 years, 18 days ago

                          Mitoma- Mahrez will very likely be rested v Wolves to be fresh for Arsenal game next week so can see 1 point cameo

                          1. OptimusBlack
                            • 12 Years
                            3 years, 18 days ago

                            It does make sense

                      10. FantasyClub
                        • 5 Years
                        3 years, 18 days ago

                        If I’m trying to catch my ML leader who also has Mitro, is Mitro ➡️ Toney -4 worth it ?

                      11. Zladan
                        • 8 Years
                        3 years, 17 days ago

                        Salah to Bruno for DGW22 has to be the easiest transfer I’ll make this season.