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The Dugout Discussion – Saturday

Saturday’s six matches get under way with five three o’clock kick-offs before Newcastle host West Brom in the North East this evening. While Arsenal and Everton are the only true rich sources of Fantasy talent on show, the teamsheets certainly give a few of us something to consider as we head into the hectic December schedule.

We start the team news at Goodison, where there’s a couple of surprises in the Everton lineup as both Ross Barkley and Kevin Mirallas drop to the bench – perhaps with the midweek trip to Old Trafford in mind. Both were impressive in the 3-3 draw with Liverpool last time out but warm the timber this time around as Leon Osman is recalled and Barcelona loanee Gerard Deulofeu is given his first Premier League start. At the back, Bryan Oviedo replaces the injured Leighton Baines. Visitors Stoke are forced into a pair of changes with Robert Huth and Marko Arnautovic both absent through injury. Oussama Assaidi returns to the starting XI, while Marc Muniesa is given his first league start for the Potters.

Paul Lambert brings Antonio Luna, Gabby Agbonlahor, Andreas Weimann and Fabian Delph back into his Villa lineup to face Sunderland following their role in the Hawthorns comeback. Nathan Baker, Yacouba Sylla, Libor Kozak and Aleks Tonev make way. Gus Poyet also makes three changes to the Sunderland teamsheet, as in come Craig Gardner, Fabio Borini and Andrea Dossena with Jack Colback, Adam Johnson and Ondrej Celustka dropping to the bench.

Sam Allardyce makes no less than four changes to his West Ham lineup to face Fulham, with one of them of great significance. Ravel Morrison drops to the bench having started the last nine Premier League matches; Joe Cole also makes way, along with Joey O’Brien and Jack Collison. The Hammers start with George McCartney, Mohamed Diame, Modibo Maiga and Matt Jarvis. As for Fulham, they are without the injury Dimitar Berbatov, so Adel Taarabt is handed a rare start for Martin Jol’s side. Damien Duff and Steve Sidwell also return as Bryan Ruiz and Derek Boateng miss out.

Arsene Wenger has the luxury of selecting an unchanged side for the trip to Cardiff as Theo Walcott is again kept in reserve. The home side make just a single change with Kim Bo-Kyung given the nod over Peter Odemwingie.

Finally, at Carrow Road, Chris Hughton makes three changes to his Norwich lineup as in come Johan Elmander, Wes Hoolahan and Seb Bassong. Anthony Pilkington misses out through injury, Bradley Johnson and Michael Turner drop to the bench. Tony Pulis makes two changes for his first match in charge of Palace as Jason Puncheon comes in for the suspended Yannick Bolasie. Cameron Jerome is preferred to Dwight Gayle up front.

Our Dugout Discussion chatroom is now open and will be with you throughout today’s matches, right through to the final whistle at St James’ Park.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

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  1. Spencer
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    • 12 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Evening guys,

    I have 2FTs. Who should be my priorities to get rid of?

    A. Walker
    B. Murner
    C. Mirallas
    D. Benteke

    Boruc - McGregor
    Coleman - Walker - Koscielny - Murner - Shaw
    Ramsey - Oscar - Cabaye - Kim - Mirallas
    Suarez - Benteke - Aguero

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    1. Coaly
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      d

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    2. Eboue
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Like your team spencer. I think with mirallas's place seemingly under threat, and his next couple of fixtures looking tricky, I'd say now is the best time to get rid. Having said that, his fixtures then get a lot better and he could inflict some damage! Tricky. Mirallas or walker of those IMHO.

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    3. ratski
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      I'm sure at some stage Bene has to come good but at the moment with all the other strikers banging them in it might be time to trade up

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    4. Jafalad
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Mirallas - not heavy enough.
      Benteks - await the form first.

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      1. Spencer
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        • 12 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Thanks guys.

        Most helpful, as always. 🙂

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  2. Make United Great Again
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Goal Keeper for 5.1? Need to address the Boruc situation!

    Already have Shaw so goalkeeping covrage from another team would be welcome.

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    1. Make United Great Again
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      coverage*

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    2. Robe Wan
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      • 11 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Krul at 5

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    3. Reedy
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Guzan. Lovely rotation

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      1. Reedy
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        That's assuming you're keeping Boruc

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        1. Make United Great Again
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          Would have been perfect, however selling price for McGregor would be 4.7.

          No Boruc/ Guzan combo 🙁

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          1. Reedy
            • 13 Years
            10 years, 4 months ago

            Ah I see. I would look into rotations with Speroni, Vorm or Jussi perhaps. Not sure off top of my head!

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            1. Make United Great Again
              • 11 Years
              10 years, 4 months ago

              hahaa they're all too expensive.

              I could downgrade Ozil to Walcott and upgrade McGreogor, but I don't think it's worth it.

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      2. Make United Great Again
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Only problem is I have McGregor, who isn't getting games

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    4. Podge
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      What Boruc situation ?

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      1. Make United Great Again
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        I have to play him every week. And I cannot upgrade McGregor to a good enough keeper to rotate.

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        1. Podge
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          Ah I see

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    5. Jafalad
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      You want to get rid of the best ff-performing gk in FPL?

      Jeez. 😕

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  3. Acquafresca
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Is Dawson > Koscielny worth a hit ?

    Or just play Dawson?

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    1. JWF
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Play Dawson.

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    2. Make United Great Again
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Play Dawson v Fulham surely

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    3. Chris_White
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      No. Play Dawson.

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    4. A.T
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Play dawson

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    5. King Kohli
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Wait and see if he gets dropped tomorrow.

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      1. elkunaguero
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        • 12 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        this!

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    6. Spencer
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      • 12 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Not worth the hit

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    7. The Mandalorian
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      spurs are having a crisis so it might work out

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    8. Phaze 1
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      hell no

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  4. Mr. Greedy
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Sess -> Lallana a good transfer, assuming he doesn't get injured tomorrow?

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    1. LOCO ABREU
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      bad fixtures for saints

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    2. The EJJ
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      • 12 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Cabaye looks the best option at that price.

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      1. The Mandalorian
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        agree

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      2. suddenorgan
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        4 yellows though

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  5. Thomass
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    I'm seriously considering Mert.

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    1. Podge
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      About time

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      1. Thomass
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Yeah, but who for?
        Mignolet
        Terry, Coleman, GJ, Chico and Faye

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        1. Podge
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          GJ or Chico, preferably Chico

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          1. Thomass
            • 11 Years
            10 years, 4 months ago

            Might wait a week or two

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            1. Podge
              • 13 Years
              10 years, 4 months ago

              If not this week then wait 4

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            2. elkunaguero
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 12 Years
              10 years, 4 months ago

              Coleman has United and Arsenal away as his next two... enjoy today's points, time to sell

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              1. Thomass
                • 11 Years
                10 years, 4 months ago

                Hell no season keeper for me

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  6. Podge
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Someone mentioned the Cup so I went to look and see if I had qualified, I must have put down the wrong team number 🙁

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  7. Optimus.
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Whats the deal with Ryan Bennett whos place has he taken?..I see he has played the last 3

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    1. TorresMagic™
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      • 14 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Murner it seems,

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      1. Optimus.
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Interesting cheers

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    2. Mílanista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      First he took Bassong's place. Now Bassong's come back in for Murner.

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      1. Optimus.
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        I'm on the look out for a Baker replacement..4.0m max and i have Ward

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        1. Mílanista
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          Was going to say Burner as he rotates well with Ward but I see he's risen to 4.1m. Maybe give it a GW to see if Bennett starts over Murner again, I can't see a better option unless you double up on Palace *pukes*

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        2. Mílanista
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          • 12 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          Maybe a Hull defender but it depends when you need them to play. Only 2 decent fixtures up to the Jan wildcard.

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  8. white lightning
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Want to sell Barkley in gw14 but if I want to get Rooney in gw15 (for Remy) I have to downgrade Barkley to a 4.7. However there aren't really any options. Any suggestions for a nailed on 4.7 m/f (can't get JWP as I already have 3 Sou)

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    1. ratski
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Jwp is the stand out at that budget and sotons ship for defenders has sailed so do a double

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  9. Thomass
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    MOTD running order: Car/Ars, Eve/Sto, WHU/Ful, New/WBA, Nor/CP, AV/Sun. Some good games with great goals. BBC1 10.20

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    1. Rafabio
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      What time EST (without accounting for Daylight Savings)?

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    2. Wings Fan
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Thanks Gary

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  10. ratski
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Migs, (Lewis)
    Kos Dawson, terry, (coleman, Chester)
    Barkley, jwp, hazard, Ramsey, (Brady)
    Rooney, Suarez, ageuro

    Feeling happier about my side.
    Should I save ft, or get rid of Barkley or Brady?
    Only got an extra 0.4m to spend

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  11. Rafabio
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Fixtures coming fast.

    ARS (all competitions): Dec 4, 8, 11, 14 ... 23, 26, 29, Jan 1 ...

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  12. La Roja
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    BALE!

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    1. LOCO ABREU
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      brace?

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  13. rozzo
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Best west ham defender to get in? Demel or collins?

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    1. Wings Fan
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Well I got Collins in for this week. Reid only had his operation a few days ago, shouldn't be back till new year.

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    2. Mílanista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Demel. Would get Tomkins before Collins.

      Have a look at the fixtures and remember they're without Reid for a while, not sure you really want any of them.

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    3. Podge
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      But but but why ?

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    4. LOCO ABREU
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      collins cheaper till reid is back

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    5. rozzo
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      West ham are strong defensively, their defence starts from the front line, palance and sunderland next, seven clean sheets so far, no brainer really

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  14. TheSteel
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Ill consider Deulefeu if he starts midweek

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  15. Acquafresca
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Post your bad scores here:

    21 after baps

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    1. Raddy
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      24 after baps

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    2. Mílanista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      26(-4) after baps and Burner coming in for Murner 😡

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    3. Assisting you all day
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      30 pre baps

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    4. Gubborr
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      25 after baps, SAR to the rescue.

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    5. Make United Great Again
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      40 pre baps

      Suarez Rooney Aguero (C) Oscar GJ Boruc to come 🙁

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    6. Reedy
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      20(-4)

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      1. Reedy
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        oh happy days, + 3 baps lol

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    7. LOCO ABREU
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      42(-4)

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    8. Park the bus
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      12 from 4 🙁

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  16. Ricky - it doesn\'t ta…
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    murner for jevans sound good? is he nailed on?

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  18. Bielsa's Blue Bucket
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    So is that Cabaye assist gonna be taken off him?

    Sorry if this has been asked a million times

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  19. BOOM XHAKALACA
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Have 2 FT and 0.3 in the bank:

    Mignolet (Daniels)
    Ivan Coleman Fonte Rat Chester
    Ozil Ramsey Oscar Brady Whitt
    Remy Suarez Giroud

    Should I:
    A. Get rid of Giroud
    B. Get rid of Brady / Whitt
    C. Get rid of Rat / Ivan

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  20. Seamy
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Can I have some advice on upgrading my defence, I really am stumped.

    I have 2FT and 0.2m in the bank. Existing back line:

    GJ (5.7), McAuley (5.4), Dawson (5.2), Willliams (4.8), Murner (4.0)

    Potentailly McAuley and Williams - - > Gabidon and 6.4 Def

    Yours in sport,
    Seamy

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  21. Johnny139
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Last vote guys! pick one!

    A) Cabaye, Nasri & Lukaku

    B) Cabaye, Ravel & Rooney (-4pts)

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  22. European Bob
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Has the bap chap been on yet?

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  23. Sparrer
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    The 4-man, big hitter midfield is dead. I can't see it recovering from this.

    The top 10 performing mids (before BPS) so far will currently set you back, on average, £8.38m and average 62.7pts so far. That's 7.79 points per mil investment.

    In contrast, the top 10 performing defs (before BPS) so come in at £6.12m and return 10.07 ppmi.

    The contrast only gets bigger if you take the top 10 out of the top 30 - the next 20 down come in at £6.24m/7.01ppm for mids, £5.28m/8.83ppm for defs.

    Incidentally, of the top 30 defenders, 17 are CBs and 13 FBs, with tallies of 9.56ppm and 8.74ppm respectively, largely due to BPS distribution (clearances).

    Investing in a locked-in front 3, a 5-man defense and rotating through fixtures currently looks like the value decision, with three regular mids, a rotation option and a 2-point banker.

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    1. Sparrer
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Add to that: ALL BUT FOUR of the top THIRTY defenders are currently returning more points per million investment (current value) than the average return of the top TEN mids.

      Only ONE midfielder in the top THIRTY outperforms the average of the top THIRTY defenders.

      I'm not sure I've worded that correctly, but it's a stark statistic - whereas in previous years 3-4-3 looked the banker, this year the logic says that 5-2-3 with aaron ramsay and a power forward is the route forward.

      I predict that we're looking at the rise of the non-playing midfielder...

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  24. jas5sk - Youtube channel
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Martin Jol said he needed to win the West Ham or Tottenham match to keep his job. 🙁 Really rooting for him vs Spurs. As bad as Fulham are, it would suck if they sacked him before AVB.

    Also, #Benteke(C)fail

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    1. DRIZ ✅
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Wow bentekeC?? As if it couldnt get any worse

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  25. Azerbaijan Shopping Centre
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    My first time to get into the top 10k.

    Thrilled.

    SAR and 3 others still to come

    🙂

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