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With attention understandably focused on Manchester United’s impending record signing of Angel Di Maria, the capture of fellow Argentine Marcos Rojo for £16 million has taken a back seat. Nevertheless, the club’s third summer recruit could be a crucial piece of the jigsaw – manager Louis van Gaal sees the 24-year-old as integral to his plans and has waxed lyrical over the defender’s versatility:

“Marcos is very gifted. He has played at the highest level in world football and can play either as a central defender or left-back. He has ability, physical strength and a willingness to learn that means he has a very bright future ahead of him. He had a very strong World Cup and has been playing in Europe for a couple of years now. He is a very good addition to the team.”

THE HISTORY

Recruited by his local side Estudiantes de La Plata at just ten years of age, Rojo signed his first professional contract in 2009. Promoted to the first team, he was employed predominantly as a left-back and managed 53 appearances in three years, scoring four times and helping his club win the Copa Libertadores and Argentine Primera Division.

Despite signing a five-year deal with Spartak Moscow in December 2010, Rojo made a total of 17 appearances and delivered a single goal and assist in a forgettable spell before moving to Sporting Lisbon for £3.5 million in July 2012. His first year with the club was disastrous; rash tackling, positional naivety and temper tantrums contributed directly to the side’s worst season in their existence.

Last year the side enjoyed a rebirth, though, and Rojo began to impress Europe’s top scouts. Lisbon secured Champions League football by finishing second, utilising him as centre-half in a backline that conceded just 12 goals in 29 games. Rojo proved to be a decent goal threat from the back and scored seven times in 61 outings for the Portuguese outfit, though it’s fair to say his disciplinary record leaves something to be desired and may deter some Fantasy suitors – he picked up 23 yellows and was dismissed on five occasions during his time with Sporting.

On the international stage, Rojo made his debut for Argentina back in February 2011 and has subsequently represented his country on 28 occasions, finding the net once.

THE PROSPECTS

Although he stands six foot one and is adept at centre-half, Rojo built his reputation as a pacey attacking full-back, with excellent close control and the ability to beat an opponent before rifling in pinpoint crosses. While most expect Luke Shaw – when fully fit – to take up the role on the left, whether in a 3-5-2 or 4-3-3 formation, Rojo is certainly adept in the position and offers a definite alternative if Van Gaal chooses to overlook the youngster. In the recent World Cup, for example, he executed the most key passes and the second-most crosses of any defender in the tournament.

In terms of pitch time, Van Gaal’s statement above looks key. Rojo is versatile enough to offer United the chance to switch tactics during matches, moving from the heart of a back-three to left-back in a four-man back-line (or vice versa) and perhaps gives him an advantage over his defensive team-mates in terms of security.

Given the club’s current injury woes, it seems we won’t have a clear picture of Van Gaal’s intentions until he has a fully-fit squad to choose from, though even if Shaw edges ahead for the position on the left, Rojo’s installation will afford United a much-needed injection of pace through the middle.

Available for 6.0 in FPL, Rojo is the Red Devils’ most expensive defensive option after Shaw suffered a drop to 5.9 but it’s something of an understatement to suggest his new side have done little to vindicate our investment to date. With United conceding three goals in their opening two fixtures, few will be willing to risk so much until the Old Trafford outfit begin to show some signs of solidity. Once his work permit comes through, Rojo looks a definite starter and has some very strong fixtures in the upcoming six (bur, QPR, lei, WHM, EVE, wba), though, as we’ve seen so far, whether Van Gaal’s side have the form to take advantage is another matter entirely.

Further Reference

Marcos Rojo Wikipedia

Marcos Rojo Transfer Markt Page

Marcos Rojo You Tube Highlights

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  1. Kew Pee Arr
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    Mk dons v man Utd. Wahahahahaha.

    1. Snooze ya lose
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Utd gonna get dicked. Have u seen their line up?!

      1. Kew Pee Arr
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        Wouldn't that be hilarious.

  2. Toonzie
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    @Everton 3m
    ETO’O SIGNS: Everton sign 3-times Champions League winner @setoo9 on a two-year deal.

    1. Sunny 😎
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      2 years? But why..

      1. Podge
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        he's 72

  3. Valar(Keith)
    • 16 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    DeJong very involved and forward apparently.. already had a shot and was caught offside taking another. and Obertan aiming the roof when taking corners apparently 🙂 .. Note: Listening to radio so this is based on commentary

    1. Kew Pee Arr
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Dj looks promising.

      1. Valar(Keith)
        • 16 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        i have a feeling he'll be in my team before the night ends 😯 .. allows me to keep Sturridge and Costa and Rooney instead of swapping one out for Ade/Jovetic and get sterling in mid

    2. Valar(Keith)
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Not obertan.. mede hebib or someone. this scouting via commentary is tough 🙂

      1. BabyB
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        mehdi abeid that will be.

        You got a link for the radio?

    3. aehii
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      01

  4. Yome
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    BBC Sport ‏@BBCSport 5 min
    Everton confirm the signing of former Chelsea striker Samuel Eto'o on a two-year deal #efc

    1. Mr_Partridge
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      He's better then Lukaku, how much? 7.5?

      1. Kew Pee Arr
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        Eto'o is terrible. Surprised Martinez went for him.

        1. Mr_Partridge
          • 11 Years
          11 years, 3 months ago

          Scored a hatty vs united last season. has plenty left to offer...

        2. Bolt-on
          • 15 Years
          11 years, 3 months ago

          He's not terrible as a fill in - most would take him as a second striker

      2. Sánchez
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        Eto'o isn't interested in being good at football anymore
        Just wants a retirement pension package.

        1. Kew Pee Arr
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 3 months ago

          Exactkly

      3. Yome
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        I don't remember how much he was at Chelsea but you should be spot on.
        I feel for those bringing in Naismith, now there is more competition with Eto'o

        1. Mr.Irwin
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 3 months ago

          I doubt anyone who has him is too worried if he starts or not

          1. Woy of the Wovers
            • 15 Years
            11 years, 3 months ago

            What an odd thing to say.

            1. Mr.Irwin
              • 12 Years
              11 years, 3 months ago

              His 5.1 You get what you pay for at that price

              1. Yome
                • 14 Years
                11 years, 3 months ago

                You wanna pay for nailed on players. Let see how Martinez uses Eto'o...

  5. M.I.A.
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    Sturridge>Jovetic a good shout?

    I think Sturridge is a bit overpriced this season and I could use the funds to upgrade a budget mildfielder

    1. Kerz
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Not a bad shout. Depends if you need to do any other transfers

      1. M.I.A.
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        I would like to then use the extra funds to upgrade my budget midfileder to one of Eriksen/Lamela but not sure if that transfer is worth a hit or just wait and do it for free next week.

    2. Kew Pee Arr
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Any Lpool cover in midfield? Good run coming up.

      1. M.I.A.
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        None at the moment but I would bring Sterling in.

    3. Raddy
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Sturridge is slightly over priced but I would still stick. Given his history its very likely he will be bringing returns soon. Don't be dragged into the Jov bandwagon.
      Unless there is a midfielder you really want then it may be worth it.

    4. Snooze ya lose
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      No. Jovetic a rotation risk.keep sturridge and get aguero when fully fit

  6. KingPig
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    totalfpl say Jovetic is price protected...why so?

    1. Kerz
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Glitch. Site's been buggered

      1. KingPig
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        Thanks.

  7. Exeter Gently
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    another question probably asked already. what will ADMs price be?

    1. A.T
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      I have a guess at 10

    2. Kew Pee Arr
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      10?

    3. Kroos Kontrol
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      It should be 10.5 minimum. They gave Sanchez that price - can't imagine AdM getting lesser.

      1. A.T
        • 15 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        Good point. 10.5 then

    4. Sunny 😎
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      FPL will give him a price asap. Everyone else will just guess. My guess would be 10 m

    5. Takedog1
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      11. Certainly no cheaper than 10.5

  8. SMOOTH
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    is dzeko really dropping that fast on totalfpl. 50% just today????

  9. Kroos Kontrol
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    Should I WC to remove De Gea, downgrade Hazard (maybe Eriksen too) and then upgrade Dzeko to Aguero? Already got 0.9 in the bank. And yeah - gotta do Marney >> Albrighton soon.

    My current team

    De Gea / Hamer
    Clyne / Chester / PVA / Naylor / Duff
    Hazard / Ramsey / Eriksen / Sigurdsson / Marney
    Rooney / Costa / Dzeko.

    Already exhausted by FT this week on Luis to Clyne

    1. Kew Pee Arr
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Why not just do Dzeko to Jov?

      1. Kew Pee Arr
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        That way you have city cover and do the others next week, or during international break?

    2. A.T
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Waste of a wc. Aguero can wait a bit longer.

    3. Kerz
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Team looks good, don't WC. I personally did Dzeko > Jov and saved a FT for the international break...

  10. aehii
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    I can do young and rooney to hazard jovetic but scared of aguero rising, getting over his hamstring problems and being unattainable and essential and amazing goal scoring person. His 18 points in some games last season hurt.

    my front 7 would look like

    sterling hazard ramsey siggurdson
    jovetic costa sturridge

  11. Jimjam
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    A) Begovic & Kelly -> Courtois & Dummett (-8)

    B) Dzeko -> Jovetic (-4)

    Either worth the hit?
    Too knee jerky?

    1. Sunny 😎
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Too knee jerky imo. Hold fire till friday and then decide whether to keep Dzeko or sell

    2. Kew Pee Arr
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Dzeko is injured.

      1. tw
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        just a knock

      2. edgardavids
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        Just a scratch

  12. Sithlord007
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    Evening,

    How much we talking for Di Maria do we think?

    1. Exeter Gently
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      see above

  13. Lallana_
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    Young is falling tonight. Is Larsson a good replacement or should I do:

    Sturridge>Jovetic
    Young>Fabregas

    I kind of want to keep Sturridge. Decent fixtures and will play better with a striker partner!

    1. aehii
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      I'd keep sturridge. Very lively against city.

    2. Kew Pee Arr
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Tempting! Not sure fab will get much at Everton, but you gorra bin young

    3. Sunny 😎
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Sterling instead of Fabregas?

      1. Lallana_
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        Have Sterling, Ramsey and Sigurdsson!

    4. Snooze ya lose
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Keep sturridge.

  14. Ramok
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    Decent weekend as just hit 72 but i got 2FT and no idea if i should even use them now, help needed. I assume i can swap Cameron for some other def up to 4.4M but no idea what to pick

    Krul / Foster
    Jones - Terry - Bruce (Cameron/Moore)
    Fab - Sig - Mata - Ramsay (El Ahmadi)
    Rooney - Costa - Jovetic

    Cheers for the help

  15. FPL_DON
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    Does anyone have any ideas on who i could change Bojan to? i have 0.5 in the bank

    1. Az
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      s.fletcher of SUN seems a decent bet.

      1. FPL_DON
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        Yeah not a bad shout would've probably put Wickham in if he didn't look so bad against Man U

    2. Clam. ☘️
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Everyone seems to be getting Naismith in for him atm

      1. FPL_DON
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        Could possibly do that but i think with the arrival of Eto'o he could be benched they also have a have a hard game next week in Chelsea

  16. Clam. ☘️
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    Hazard - Ramsey - Siggy - Eriksen - Mata

    Who do I get rid of for Sterling come their good fixtures?

    1. Mr_Partridge
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Mata

      1. Woy of the Wovers
        • 15 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        This.

    2. FPL_DON
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Eriksen or Mata

    3. Snooze ya lose
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Eriksen. Easy

  17. Volk
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    I think we could see an upset tonight. Utd win.

    1. Snooze ya lose
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Lol

    2. Woy of the Wovers
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      It won't upset me. I want to see them lose to Sunderland in the semis.

  18. How the new pricing system May affect the game
    Dr Funk
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    Price rises mean the template team is a certainty.

    Players are dropping in value as they did last year but hardly anyone is rising in price, even when their ownership goes up 5 fold.

    Look at any team. You will see lots of players with drops in value and often only 1 or 2 with a rise in value. Spurs for example – 9 players have dropped in value and only one has risen.

    These changes have made the game worse and shifted the balance of power from the interested player to the casual player. Some people have said its good cos it reduces volatility in the prices but its navigating the price rises that make FPL interesting and a genuine challenge. It prohibits simply copying the crowd and encourages individual thinking and anticipation.

    Price rises reward those who watch out for changes in tactics, upcoming good fixtures and the impact on a team of new signings. In other words people who predict and anticipate. They act as a barrier to those who just react, who apply a wait and see approach. Smaller price rises mean those who put in the effort aren’t rewarded and will ultimately lead to people acquiring a template team quicker. Just look at how template the teams have become already after just 2 game weeks. The new system makes it easy to simply follow the herd. Theres no longer a barrier to getting certain players in. If you miss the boat early, just get the player a week or two later – they wont be that much more expensive.

    For example, last year I was one of many who didn’t get on the Toure or Ramsey bandwagons. By the time I realised that they weren’t flash in the pans I had to significantly change my team when I decided I had to jump on board cos both had risen significantly. This is a good thing. Why should it be easy for me to correct my mistakes and lack of judgement? Some people didn’t get them at all cos they missed the boat. If the system for calculating price rises being used this year applied last year then neithers rises would have been prohibitive and I could have taken them with little cost to myself. We all would have had the same team very early on.

    And this year, we have seen huge numbers of transfers for Siggy yet he has only risen by £0.3m. Siggy started the season with ownership of about 7 percent. We are in GW3 and already a third of the people have him. More importantly, almost every “serious” player now has him. No one has “missed the boat” cos the boat hasn’t sailed. Hes still only 0.3m! Those who had him from the start haven’t been rewarded.

    1. Tim Canterbury
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      I say do away with price changes altogether. They complicate transfer decisions. Good post.

      1. Dr Funk
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        Got to disagree. Price rises are what make this game. No price rises will mean that players like Siggy who were underpriced by the powers that be will end up in every team. I reckon he will be this years Michu. Those who had him in GW1 currently get little reward for realising this and being ahead of the game. With no prices this would even worse.

        Price rises are a barrier to those who aren't quick to spot trends.

        1. tm245
          • 14 Years
          11 years, 3 months ago

          Aren't the points he scored for you the reward? I can never give back Ashley Young's returns the first two weeks so you won that duel. The game is as much about the 2-3 week windows as it is about a player becoming a season keeper for you.

          1. Dr Funk
            • 13 Years
            11 years, 3 months ago

            Not if I benched him like a mug.

            🙁

            1. tm245
              • 14 Years
              11 years, 3 months ago

              Ouch! Let's hope he does well this weekend.

    2. Lallana_
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      +1

    3. @FPLMason
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Agreed

    4. Sadio
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Siggy would be 6.5 at this point last year, edging close to a 6.6.

      Dier would be 5.5 pretty easily too.

      Giroud would certainly be 8.2

    5. The Bandit
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      'Price rises reward those who watch out for changes in tactics, upcoming good fixtures and the impact on a team of new signings. In other words people who predict and anticipate'

      Actually they reward those who jump quickly on the latest wagon 😉

      1. Sunny 😎
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        I agree. Now we are not getting forced to make early transfers which gives us more time to judge a player and make better decisions instead of casual players who would jump straight away without looking at fixtures/form.
        There is always a way to get ahead of the casual players. The real competition will be between the serious players by Christmas time again

      2. Dr Funk
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        I disagree. They can prevent people who missed the wagon in the first place from getting on board. You no longer have to tear up your team to fit players in.

        Siggy being a good example. He is going to be massively underpriced through the entire season. That's shite.

        1. The Bandit
          • 15 Years
          11 years, 3 months ago

          The only thing foresight gets you is his initial points.. Assuming you didn't bench them 😳

      3. chrisjdgrady
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        this

    6. Defcons are for Kinnear
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Hulk this

    7. Woy of the Wovers
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      It's early days. Templates emerge early because fewer players have scored well. Give it time and one or two other players will begin to emerge while some early bandwagons will lose their wheels.

    8. Gargamel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      I don't agree with this.

      I think more volatile prices reward knee jerking and those who just buys the players who did well last week.

      In this situation you can gamble on somebody like De Jong at this stage, while with the old system in this situation you'd be an idiot to not jump on the Sigurdsson wagon. That created very very similar teams among the active an interested players, and eventually those are the ones you need to beat and want to play in your own style.

      In your example from last season you were badly punished for NOT following the herd, to make a long story short.

      1. The Bandit
        • 15 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        This

      2. Skokym
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        this!

      3. Gaffers
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        Agree with this. Besides, casual bandwagoners, while they will jump on the Siggys of the world, they'll also jump on the Cattermoles. A good player should always beat a casual player, regardless of the stock market effect.

      4. Dr Funk
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        I take your point and agree to a certain extent. But last year I didn't recognise how good a season Toure and Ramsey were going to have till it was too late. I was prevented from taking them on board cos to get them id have had to rip my team apart cos they rose in value so quickly.

        I missed the boat and it was my own fault. I was punished for not being smart.

        I see what you are saying, this may have prevented teams becoming to template. But you only have to look at this season and see that we already have a template that is achievable by anyone.

        1. Kalix
          • 14 Years
          11 years, 3 months ago

          Give it two weeks, the template will be shredded.

          Already this week we have Lamela, Mata, Jovetic all smashing last weeks opinions.

      5. Ryan
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        Not sure I agree with your disagreement 😉

        The fact is, in the past the serious manager was able to use price changes to accumulate massive team wealth. The casual wasn't so interested in this as they didn't follow Fiso and TotalFPL so religiously. As a result the casual might get to a TV of 105m while the serious manager will get to a TV of 115m, thats a huge disadvantage to the casual.

    9. Kew Pee Arr
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Why is it a bad thing that players who don't spend 12 hrs a day on the game have a chance? It's a game, not too be taken so seriously, which is meant to appeal to a wide range audience as possible. You need to lighten up.

      1. Dr Funk
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        Co Im in a league with a first prize of £500!

        🙂

    10. Chris
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      I spent pre-season debating Siggy vs Bojan and went for Bojan. This week I was considering bringing Siggy in but would've needed a hit and a 4.0 def so didn't, as I intend to keep my current big 4 midfielders while fit. At £6m I could've still done it that first week before any rises but it would've required an 8pt hit then.

      That means I still don't have him, but as you say he's still only £6.3m. He could go to £6.5m and I could still decide to take that hit to bring him in if the wagon shows no sign of slowing, particularly with my wildcard still available.

      Ramsey last year I just got on in time, but stubbornly opted against both Suarez and Yaya and before long both those were out of my range. This year I feel I have more time to wait and see with rising players.

      In contrast, players are dropping a lot more regularly as you point out, which has made me quick to switch those who're falling in price - particularly the cheap players, as it's very tough to make a straight swap when a £4.5m def drops to £4.4m (as an example). I took the drop with Mata as I was determined to keep him anyway, and a drop to £8.9m still leaves many options for a straight swap with a single transfer. Bojan I moved on as a drop to £5.4m has a lot more impact at that low end of the scale with limited options.

    11. Home Run Baker
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Nice post.
      Thanks.

    12. tm245
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Mark complained about this in an article two years ago when everyone jumped on what he thought was his Michu bandwagon, I think. He wanted full price if he were to sell since he wasn't profiting as much as he could and latecomers were able to get him at a higher selling price.

      Price changes are not as important as getting that first points haul or two when other are still undecided. As I posted above, the points are the reward, the pounds just make it a bit easier to get there.

      1. Dr Funk
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        Don't believe you should get full price. There should be a consequence for ditching a player - the cost of getting him back in again if you realised that you made a mistake. Otherwise we can correct all of our mistakes.

    13. Kalix
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      I think the exact opposite is true. It comes down to playstyle...you like to play the market, I like to play with stats.

      How many people on here lamented last year that Ramsey and Toure were the casuals choice? Bought by many casuals simply to net the extra £££. They lucked out, these players just happened to be the real deal.

      Taking this year: After GW1 Fabregas, Siggy and Ramsey were on the rise because the masses were chasing points and team value. The smart players were backing Hazard (his at home record is great) and Jovetic (great stats), even if they didn't have them...look at the scout picks.

      The slower prices rises allows more cautious players to play the game better. It allows us to 'wait and see': There is not nearly enough evidence to say that Hazard/Mata won't be better than Fabregas in the long run, yet knee-jerkers and casuals force us to make that decision after only 1 or 2 matches...for fear of losing 0.6 million should fabregas win this contest.

      I prefer it this way, although for balance I think price drops could have been similarly affected.

      1. Barry Woj
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        Firstly, playing stats and the market are not mutually exclusive playing styles. The market represents an additional way to gain an advantage over other players. Be that accumulating team value or simply gambling and making an early transfer so that you aren't caught out by a rise or fall.

        Secondly, waiting and seeing is not always the best tactic and isn't necessarily one only the best players always adhere to. At what point does "waiting and seeing" stop and become a "knee-jerk" transfer? Sooner or later you'll have to change a player that you've been waiting on, if they don't score any points. If the price hasn't changed then you can do this easily, essentially removing all risk from waiting on players.

        A volatile market makes it harder to wait. You have to judge the pay off compared to the loss you may suffer if it doesn't work. Equally if you make lots of knee jerk transfers you're risking 4 points (not to the mention the transfer out of another player) of your score in return for a form player and a potential price rise or dodge of a fall. If your knee jerk doesn't pay off you have to take more hits. Neither strategy is a guarantee and neither is better or more educated than the other. Casuals are casuals and don't care either way. A more volatile market makes the game far more interesting and requires far more attention.

        1. Kalix
          • 14 Years
          11 years, 3 months ago

          Cautious players who wait (on players like Mata/Haz):
          Best Case: You get points for keeping, but lose TV. Win-Lose
          Worst Case: No points and no TV. Lose-Lose

          Aggressive hit takers (who follow the market):
          Best Case: You get points and TV. Win-Win
          Worst Case: No points and TV. Lose-Win

          Fast price rises punish one group less than the other.
          Obviously being in the former group, I prefer it one way over the other 🙂

          1. Kalix
            • 14 Years
            11 years, 3 months ago

            Let's say Mata outscores Fab over the next 2 weeks.

            Easy for the Fab bangwagon to hop onto the now 8.9 Mata and pocket the profits.
            Harder for the Mata holders to upgrade to Fab.

            Aside:
            I do enjoy having to adapt to the changes each season.
            That more than anything seperates the casuals from the tryhards imo 🙂

            1. Barry Woj
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 13 Years
              11 years, 3 months ago

              That's fair enough I guess! Ultimately it's always a combination of both strategies anyway. Number of hits has to be managed, while a dead team will not win anything!

    14. BwG
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Whatever the thresholds for rises/falls eventually settles at...the most important thing is transparency...fpl needs to explain the way it will work and allow totalfpl and fiso to do their thing. FPL is an educated guessing game...templates do form but there's still so many variables that come into play...not allowing people to definitively know when a players price will rise or fall is a huge mistake imo. eg. My first season was my worst by far because I hadn't found out about totalfpl and fiso.

      1. Mike_McBam
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        I am likely in the minority here, but I disagree with this. Being able to judge rises and falls via third party sites has certainly been massively useful over the years, but I have rather enjoyed the last few days where nobody has had this information handed to them on a plate. Makes for a more interesting game, and it's still entirely possible to have a rough guess at what's going to happen to the prices based on transfers in/out

    15. The Hindu Monkey
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Superb post. Agree with every word.

    16. SteinGule
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      It's only been two weeks though... Can't remember many players from previous years rising by more than 0.1 for two straight gameweeks. Especially when they didnt even get to 10 points in both games?

    17. Barry Woj
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Good post. It's a load of crap as it is.

    18. aquavit
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      If the sell-on price included the full price gain, not just half of it, that could restore the balance, or some of it.

  19. Ohhhhh Gary Macca!
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    If Tadic blanks this week should I get Lamela in for him?

    1. Norb
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      No

      1. Ohhhhh Gary Macca!
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        Reason being?

    2. Clam. ☘️
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      If you don't have Spurs already then maybe. But consider Tadic's upcoming fixtures... they're not too shabby.

      1. Ohhhhh Gary Macca!
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        Saints aren't creating anything though. I don't have any Spurs cover.

  20. Sánchez
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    If Di Maria comes in at 10.0, how would you rate him in value for money compared to the likes of Hazard, Ramsey, Fabregas, Mata, Silva, Ozil, Walcott?
    (The other 9.0-10.0 mids)

    For me, Ramsey, Fabregas, Mata and Hazard and when fit, Walcott, will offer better returns.

    I'd more class Di Maria in with the likes of Silva or Ozil. Assists a plenty. But not enough goals and baps.

    1. Tim Canterbury
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      He will be 10.5

      1. Sánchez
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        More than Hazard? Hazard who has 2 FPL seasons and who plays for a top 4 club?

        1. Tim Canterbury
          • 14 Years
          11 years, 3 months ago

          Well he has just cost £60m

      2. Sánchez
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        I actually agree, but he shouldnt be

    2. Kerz
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      He will be overpriced due to the massive hype around his transfer and the record fee. IMO, Hazard & Walcott are far better value. They're consistent and know the PL. Even a top player like ADM will need time to adapt, and he's playing in an awful United outfit.

      1. Sánchez
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        Agree. For me, Sanchez on paper is better FPL value.
        But he also is nreding time.

  21. Early bird cup update
    Az
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 16 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    Hi guys,

    Early Bird Cup spreadsheet has just been updated with new league standings, GW3 fixtures and results from last week.

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AjjtGjCCBpZvdHpodVVxWWFsV3dsYnpKeHRkT09kZUE&output=html

    Good luck to all those playing!

    1. Clam. ☘️
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Yeah boyyyy

    2. Solenya
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Cheers AZ 🙂

    3. pundit of punts
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Nice one AZ.

  22. Woy of the Wovers
    • 15 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    Gayle bandwagon.

  23. Kerz
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    Even before the knock, Dzeko looked quite sluggish and slow last night. Bits of decent play by him, but largely overshadowed by Jovetic's performance. Can't really see Pellegrini benching Jovetic with the form he's in.

    If Aguero starts this week, who gets benched: Jovetic or Dzeko?

    1. Clam. ☘️
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      The answer lies in your question.

    2. Sunny 😎
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      I have a feeling Aguero won't start

    3. LewanGOALski
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      it'll be Jovetic - Dzeko again or eventually Jovetic - Aguero, if Pelle decides to start Kun.

      I can't see anyone mentally healthy benching Jovetic after his last night's performance

  24. Ohhhhh Gary Macca!
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    Dzeko, but Aguero won't start, he will get 45 mins at the most. The GW after next he will start.

    1. Ohhhhh Gary Macca!
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Reply fail

  25. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
    • 15 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    Gayle bandwagon

  26. Pringle
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    Isnt it pretty obvious that City needs a player like Dzeko on top vs Stoke? He is the only forward that can challenge Shawcross & Co in the air and it will be important for them to have a target in there.

    1. LewanGOALski
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      I gotta admit this is actually pretty good point...

    2. Bojaninho
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      true but i also think they will pull them all over the show with their movement that it really won't matter, Stoke play more open these days, not as solid as they used to be under Pulis.

    3. Kerz
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      True... against physical CBs I don't think Aguero will be risked - still being eased back in.

      Jovetic and Dzeko to start

      I can see Jovetic using his quick dribbling and guile to outplay Shawcross often though. Dzeko winning the ball form the air and playing through Jovetic could be a key strategy for City

  27. stewlynz
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    0 in the bank.

    What do people think of Bojan to Weiman?

    1. BabyB
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      look at villas fixtures...

    2. ...---...
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      We all got Bojan hoping he was going to be a kernel of corn amongst the shite. It's beginning to look as if he's more Boselli than Pele however and there's not really that much down there I'd swap him for. I'm either going to take a hit in midfield to bring in a Jovetic or Ady or even downgrade him to a 4.5 and beef up my midfield.

      1. stewlynz
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        It's a dilemma alright. With only 1 transfer In order to bring in Jov, I'd have to take a -8 hit. Not sure it's worth that...

  28. gravless
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    Gomis........

    1. gravless
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      1st of many

    2. Art Vandelay
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Was very impressed with him when he came on in GW1. If Bony leaves Gomis becomes a great option at 7.0.

  29. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
    • 15 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    Gomis 1-0 Swansea

    1. Kerz
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Not sure if Bony's still tipped to leave but hope so. Gomis is a beast!

    2. piquiblanco
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Is Bony playing too? If he is then it's bad for Siggy.

    3. Wouter
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      essential

  30. Rafa is a Geordie
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    A) Costa - Aguero

    B) Rooney - Aguero

    -4

    1. Ohhhhh Gary Macca!
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      If you must do, Rooney > Aguero. I'm guessing you will C Aguero?

      1. Rafa is a Geordie
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        Haven't decided yet. Likely will captain Aguero. Just feel he's got a big haul coming