[sbu_large_image] Moving Target
7 July 2015 1899 comments
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Sunderland kick-started their summer spending spree last Wednesday with the acquisition of centre-half Sebastian Coates from Liverpool. Having spent last season on loan at the Stadium of Light, the 24-year-old has made his switch permanent, signing a four-year contract for a fee believed to be around the £2 million mark.

The Black Cats sporting director Lee Congerton hailed the player’s acquisition and reckons Coates’ previous year with the club will ensure he slots in seamlessly:

“Sebastian was an important part of the team under Dick [Advocaat] last season and we are delighted that he has joined us on a permanent basis. He has Barclays Premier League experience, which is important and, after spending last season on loan with us, he will be able to settle into the team very quickly.”

Coates, meanwhile, admitted that Dick Advocaat’s decision to stay at Sunderland, having previously quit the post, proved pivotal in persuading him to sign up:

“I think it was 90%, because he gave me confidence last year when he came [to the club] and for me it was very important to play and to be involved in the team. When the manager came [back], it was very important for me to be here. He gives the players confidence, the team, and the supporters. When he came we were not in a good moment, so he gave everyone confidence. He trusted in the team, that we could get safe and that was important. I’m really happy to be here. It is a pleasure for me to come back again. I will try to do my best this season and to help the team.”

The History

Born in Montevideo, Uruguay, Coates joined top-flight outfit Nacional from the age of 11, where he progressed through the youth set-up and assumed the role of captain at every level. Coates earned his first senior cap during the 2008/09 season, before spending the subsequent two campaigns as a starter in central defence, tallying career stats of five goals and seven assists across 78 outings.

In the summer of 2011, Coates made the switch across the Atlantic to Liverpool. The Uruguay international failed to muscle his way into first-team contention, mustering just 12 league appearances throughout his three seasons at Anfield. Coates suffered a knee injury in an international friendly prior to the start of the 2013/14 campaign, which ruled him out for the majority of the season. A loan move back to Nacional in the latter stages saw him chalk up five appearances in South America.

In the dying embers of the 2014 summer transfer window, Coates was shipped out to Sunderland on a season-long loan deal, teaming up with fellow-Uruguayan Guy Poyet. Coates saw limited involvement while Poyet was at the helm, however, and managed a mere three starts until his compatriot’s sacking in mid-March. Under Dick Advocaat’s stewardship, Coates started all of the Black Cats’ final six fixtures, with the Wearside club narrowly avoiding relegation by virtue of a five-match unbeaten streak from Gameweek 34.

After earning 10 caps for the Uruguay U20s, Coates registered his first start for the full team in the 2011 Copa America. Los Charrúas went on to scoop the trophy that year, with Coates named as the Young Player of the tournament. More recently, the six foot five inches centre-back clocked just two minutes in the 2014 World Cup, while he featured in a 1-1 draw to Paraguay in the 2015 Copa America. In all, Coates has recorded one goal in 17 appearances for Uruguay.

The Prospects

Having earned starts in the final six Gameweeks of the previous campaign, Coates will be hopeful of ousting Wes Brown from the starting XI to partner John O’Shea in the heart of Advocaat’s defence for the season ahead.

Although the Uruguayan’s improved pitch time was due to Brown sustaining another injury, it’s fair to say his impact over those final few matches, in which the Wearsiders secured their safety, was vital for the Black Cats. Between Gameweek 34 and 37, Sunderland were breached on just two occasions in five matches and gave up the fewest big chances (five) of any side in the league before their 3-1 loss to Chelsea on the final day of the season.

In terms of Sunderland’s defensive prospects, Patrick van Aanholt looks set to remain the prime route into their rearguard. The former Chelsea left-back tallied just 84 points last term – having sat out 10 matches in the middle of the season through injury – which should ensure that his value doesn’t increase beyond the 4.5 mark. Van Aanholt notched 17 more attempts on goal (30) than any other Sunderland backline option and averaged a shot every 81.2 minutes, which was fourth amongst defenders with 1000+ minutes. Furthermore, Van Aanholt crafted 25 more chances (35) than the next best among their back line and averaged a key pass every 69.6 minutes, which was third for defenders with a minimum of 1000 minutes in 2014/15.

If Coates is afforded a run in the side, however, his underlying stats paint a promising picture. Only two Sunderland defenders attempted more efforts than the former Reds recruit (seven), even though he clocked a paltry 872 minutes. In comparison, O’Shea (seven) and Brown (four) achieved their totals while being afforded 3448 and 2101 minutes of pitch time, respectively, suggesting that Coates’ aerial ability in the opposition box could be a real weapon for Advocaat’s outfit.

Elsewhere in the Sunderland backline, Costel Pantilimon – who amassed 123 points in 28 appearances over the previous campaign – is sure to attract investment from managers looking to source a cheap keeper. Despite finishing just two places above the relegation berths, Sunderland registered as many clean sheets as Arsenal (13) and only one fewer than Manchester City. Furthermore, only two sides (West Bromwich Albion and Liverpool) carded more clean sheets away from home than the Wearsiders, illustrating their proficiency at shutting up shop on the road. Pantilimon’s penchant for picking up save points looks key here – he earned at least one save point in 18 of his 28 appearances and averaged 4.4 points per game.

Looking at the fixtures, Sunderland enjoy a highly favourable start to the new season which is sure to earn Fantasy managers’ attention. Given that they face just two of last season’s top seven in the opening 11 Gameweeks (lei, NOR, SWA, avl, TOT, bou, mum, WHM, wba, NEW, eve), Advocaat’s backline certainly look worthy of our investment in the opening few months as the Dutchman looks to build momentum and avoid another relegation scrap.

Further Reference

Sebastian Coates Wikipedia Page

Sebastian Coates Transfer Markt Page

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  1. thegreathoudini
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    Just managed to re-register on the FPL site. It's close, oh so close.

    1. andy85wsm
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      In fact it's never been closer.

    2. Az
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      How? ðŸ™

      Mine still shows my team?

      1. thegreathoudini
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        Well my page monitor pinged. I managed to sign in and choose my favourite team etc again.

        1. Konig Luther
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          monitor page only showed that now? probably isn't working properly. they allowed re-registration yesterday

        2. Spectrum-FFS Doubles Champ
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          You could do that yesterday

    3. Konig Luther
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      Daniel will have a huge disappointment today

      1. Black Knights
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        Ha, he already know about the re-register. he's more optimistic than ever!

  2. Amusing Fantasy Team Names
    J0E
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    Fantasy Football Scout daily hot topic

    Amusing team names.

    What amusing team names are you looking to use for the forthcoming season's Fantasy games?

    1. Mikeharbrw
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      For Fuchs sake!

      1. J0E
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        not funny.

        1. Jax
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          lol

      2. bennyp
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        no Fuchs Given

    2. Konig Luther
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      Fer Fuchs Ake

      1. Spectrum-FFS Doubles Champ
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        I will also be claiming this

      2. J0E
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        that's better.

        1. d1sable
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          has Buffrey sent u his sky article for submission yet Jonty?

          1. J0E
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            Yes, I've asked him to submit as a community article to publish. Looks good.

            1. buffrey
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              Yep. All sent through.

              Just a matter of time before sky opens.

              Noticed a few typos after I sent, but I guess those degrees in English you all have can be out to good use 🙂

        2. Konig Luther
          • 13 Years
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          😀

      3. Doolittle
        • 13 Years
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        Half the game is going to have this name.

        1. J0E
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          Trouble is most are pretty lame. To make his name a success you need to be really creative as Konig Luther did.

          Be good to see some other footballers get a shot at everyone's creative comedy efforts.

          1. Doolittle
            • 13 Years
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            The problem with puns is that they're never original; any good name will have been thought of by hundreds of others (I've seen Konig Luther's about 50 times on this site).

            That's why I just stick to my no nonsense Alan Partridge "Liquid Football" every year.

            1. Doolittle
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              And yes, I'm aware that this is why I'm never invited to parties.

      4. Az
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        Damn this is better than mine :p

    3. DelboyFPL
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      who ate all Depays

      1. J0E
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        Like it

        1. JK - Cønt â­
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          stolen from me 😉

    4. Kompany Man
      • 13 Years
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      What Does the Fuchs Say?

      1. J0E
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        back to the drawing board. See Konig Luther above for inspiration.

    5. J0E
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      One of my all time favourites from yesteryear was The Dirk Kuyt Rises

      1. Joggers Nipple
        • 16 Years
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        Couple of good ones from last year-
        - AC a little silhouetto of Milan
        - Exeter Gently
        - Fritzl Palace

        1. J0E
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          That Bohemian Rhapsody one is superb.

          1. Joggers Nipple
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            It truly is!

          2. Bojan Horsemack
            • 12 Years
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            Doesn't fit though. Sadly 😀

            Thought of Persie Riot the other day but about three years late

      2. Jax
        • 16 Years
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        that's awful.

    6. thegreathoudini
      • 14 Years
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      DeGea Cech the Gape

    7. Russell
      • 12 Years
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      Arise Sir! So Danny Rose

      1. Wilshere Knowledge
        • 12 Years
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        😆

    8. Puyol Pants Up
      • 11 Years
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      BayerNevaLusen

      1. Wilshere Knowledge
        • 12 Years
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        Brilliant! 😆

      2. Spectrum-FFS Doubles Champ
        • 14 Years
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        Borussia Teeth

        1. Jax
          • 16 Years
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          stolen from my team name last year.

    9. Az
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      • 16 Years
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      "Schlupp the Fuchs up"

      Heheheh

      1. thegreathoudini
        • 14 Years
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        This, I like this. Another!

    10. Spectrum-FFS Doubles Champ
      • 14 Years
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      Fer Fuchs Ake
      Rooney Fuchs Nani
      Blatter Fuchs Fifa
      Lallanas in pyjamas
      Slumdog Mignolet
      Bacuna Matata
      Who ate all Depays
      Ninja Skrtels
      Baines on toast
      Monk King Baird Song
      DeJong the Walkerfront
      Moves like Agger
      Dirk Kuyt Rises
      Le Saux solid crew
      Park Defoe King Carr
      Wash Ngog

      A small sample size of teams I've seen over the years and a few new ones thrown in for good measure.

      1. Spectrum-FFS Doubles Champ
        • 14 Years
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        The Kolorov money
        Tchoyi Shorey
        Cech Mayte
        Diaby does Gallas
        Albrighton Zat Knight

        Too many to mention.

        1. Twisted Saltergater
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          So good 😆

      2. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
        • 14 Years
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        It's Jong De Walkerfront btw...

      3. Pork & Baines
        SeeYouInTees
        Magic Milners XXL
        Cabaye Depay Please

    11. thegreathoudini
      • 14 Years
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      DeGea Fuchs the Gape! I have chosen!

    12. Christian Fox der zorn gott…
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 11 days ago

      I got Bilic I got DePay I Goetze work work work every day

    13. CostaCoffee
      • 13 Years
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      Using *Sheffield Thursday* this year
      Last year i used *Son Of A Pitch*
      World Cup it was *Ivory Toast*
      and my five a side team name is *Teenage Mutant Ninja Skrtels*

    14. Valar(Keith)
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 11 days ago

      Gonna stick to my
      Romeu and J.Hoillett

      Shame neither play in the EPL anymore 🙂

    15. Baines on Toast...
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      I'm going for Dzeko & The Bonymen this year.

      I think the Bony part may be new 😮

      1. J0E
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        • 16 Years
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        That's even better than previous early 80s alternative music winner Howson Is Now. 🙂

        1. Hasselbaink Forever
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 11 days ago

          R.E.Mnes?

      2. A.T
        • 16 Years
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        Nope I made that up last year 🙂

        1. A.T
          • 16 Years
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          You can have it though obv 😉

      3. OShaughnessy
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        • 13 Years
        11 years, 11 days ago

        I rode that name to a Top 10k finish so treat it well my friend. 😉

        And, I always regretted that I didn't go with Bonyman (Singular). 🙂

      4. RedLightning
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        Someone used that name last season. I think it was Shaughnessy.

    16. IfYouTinkerYou'llHaveA…
      • 14 Years
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      I am a sting believer that your team name pun should include a player in your team!

      1. IfYouTinkerYou'llHaveA…
        • 14 Years
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        Yes that's right.... A sting believer :-0

    17. Taffer
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 11 days ago

      Pjanic! At the Xisco
      Dudek, Weahs May Kjaer?

      1. J0E
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        That second one is truly insane. I love it. Even got ManU's David May in there.

    18. Big4FPL
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 11 days ago

      How about "Walking in Memphis"? Not exactly funny, but fits the song easily aha

      1. Jaffalicious! #SomosCubanos
        • 12 Years
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        That was one of my team names for a while...a true classic 🙂

    19. IfYouTinkerYou'llHaveA…
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 11 days ago

      depay and display

    20. Moss
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 11 days ago

      I know you Juanmi
      Obiang Kenobi

      1. Mikeharbrw
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 11 days ago

        Don't you Juanmi baby?

    21. JK - Cønt â­
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      • 14 Years
      11 years, 11 days ago

      am going to throw

      Ayew Fuchs Ings Shaw

      into the mix

      1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 11 days ago

        This is very good

    22. Dormer
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 11 days ago

      You Petr Cech Yourself!

    23. Hooky
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 11 days ago

      Mings di Nasty

    24. Mr. O'Connell
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 11 days ago

      Enter Shaqiri

      1. Long Juan Silva
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 11 days ago

        Great name, shite band

    25. Hooky
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 11 days ago

      Chamakh the Bony

    26. Bibelnissen
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      • 11 Years
      11 years, 11 days ago

      Wow, there's so many impressive puns mentioned here, but I've already decided on my team name for the upcoming season:

      Queens Park Raisins

      1. Jax
        • 16 Years
        11 years, 11 days ago

        that's bad.

    27. Dušan Citizen
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 11 days ago

      My was Sex Fabregas last year. Have no idea about new one.

    28. Hasselbaink Forever
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 11 days ago

      I like Garbutts and I cannot lie

    29. Your Mum's Athletic
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 11 days ago

      YourMumsAthletic 😉 giggity

    30. Fulgencio Obelmejias
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 11 days ago

      Kuns 'n' Moses

    31. Quinny___
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 11 days ago

      I had "Game of Throw Ins" last year

    32. Stats Don\'t Lie
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 11 days ago

      No Fuchs given
      Mane on my mind
      Firminio nan
      Challenge de-clyned
      Cry me a Riviere
      That's just Krul

    33. CoolBeans
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      • 15 Years
      11 years, 11 days ago

      Murder on Zidanes floor

    34. thes7s
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 11 days ago

      Better have my Mane

    35. aussie-trav
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 11 days ago

      robin peter depay paul

      1. Twisted Saltergater
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        • 17 Years
        11 years, 11 days ago

        If you can think of a better "paul" then you could have

        robin pieters depay ....

    36. theBoose
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 11 days ago

      The one that i've been using for a while is, Tortoise and De Gea 🙂

    37. Twisted Saltergater
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      • 17 Years
      11 years, 11 days ago

      Fuchs in the box

    38. Dino
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      • 17 Years
      11 years, 11 days ago

      Classiefuchsmartina

      1. Dino
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        • 17 Years
        11 years, 11 days ago

        Classiebonyfuchsmartina

    39. dush64
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      • 15 Years
      11 years, 11 days ago

      Vydra gives me a Bony!

    40. AK â­
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 11 days ago

      Hart Touching Song

    41. applebonkers
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      oooh tettey

    42. Qubit
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      11 years, 11 days ago

      Mane Riviere Shawcross.

    43. Black Panther
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 11 days ago

      Michu @ De Gea Ba

    44. The Cunning Punts
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 11 days ago

      Cesc, Drogs and Cattermole

    45. Overlordleo
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 11 days ago

      Probably going with "Holebas in one" this year.

    46. bennyp
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 10 days ago

      De Jong mustard

    47. Jairzinho
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      • 15 Years
      11 years, 10 days ago

      Best one I've come up with was when I signed up for Fantasy Europa League in 2010/11:

      Rolando, L'Pool & Diop

      (We Speak No Americano had just come out, by Yolanda Be Cool & Dcup... Liverpool were in the Europa League from the start which was kind of amusing, and the other two were random players in the tournament).

    48. Isco Inferno
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      • 12 Years
      11 years, 7 days ago

      I've gone for 'Don't Juanmi Baby?'

  3. Wilshere Knowledge
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 11 days ago

    Gianluca Di Marzio ‏@DiMarzio 9h9 hours ago
    #Darmian is getting close to @ManUtd: talks betweeen clubs (@TorinoFC_1906 and United) going forward.

    1. Lucy.
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 11 days ago

      Interesting!

    2. andy85wsm
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      • 16 Years
      11 years, 11 days ago

      Is he any good?

      1. Wilshere Knowledge
        • 12 Years
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        Apparently so.

        I've only seen him the once, when he made Rooney wish he had chosen a different career path.

        1. andy85wsm
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          • 16 Years
          11 years, 11 days ago

          Fair enough, don't know anything about him myself.

          Anyone has to be better than Valencia though!

      2. Jax
        • 16 Years
        11 years, 11 days ago

        he was good in the italian version of good will hunting

    3. internal error
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      • 13 Years
      11 years, 11 days ago

      this guy is sky sports italia.

      1. Wilshere Knowledge
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 11 days ago

        Yeh, but they must have higher standards in Italy. He's the Don. 😉

        1. internal error
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          • 13 Years
          11 years, 11 days ago

          i suspect so. hope he is wrong about this

        2. Somalion
          • 16 Years
          11 years, 11 days ago

          This, one of the very few I listen to at all.

  4. J0E
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    • 16 Years
    11 years, 11 days ago

    New community articles posted

    Here's Bowstring the Trout with a look at where on the pitch each Premier League is most likely to score from.

    http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/2015/07/07/creative-focal-points/

    And here's The Shoemaker with some must read analysis on the FPL bonus point allocation last year.

    http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/2015/07/07/fpl-bonus-points-analysis/

  5. Jay_
    11 years, 11 days ago

    Anyone thinking of going with Stek (SOU) and Ruddy (NOR) if they come in at 4.5 each ?

    1. NIGHTHIKER - I Kane, I Shaw…
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 11 days ago

      Think Stek will be 5.0, but this is the keeper combo I'm planning on going with, yes.

      1. Lucy.
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 11 days ago

        Also think he'll be 5.0, just because of the length of Forster's injury.

    2. Jay_
      11 years, 11 days ago

      4.5 would be a real bargain then 🙂

    3. pompeyfan
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 11 days ago

      I'd like to have Stek in my team, he's great at saving penalties.

  6. andy85wsm
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    • 16 Years
    11 years, 11 days ago

    Anyone done zero research into fixtures, rotations etc?

    Just me then....

    1. Lucy.
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 11 days ago

      Get fiddling on that ticker! 😀

      1. andy85wsm
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        • 16 Years
        11 years, 11 days ago

        I like to wait until prices are out before I start looking properly into who is playing who and when.

        A certain price you weren't expecting can easily change plans.

        1. Lucy.
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 11 days ago

          That's why I have a few different combinations listed 😉

    2. A.T
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 11 days ago

      It's all a bit pointless until the prices come out. I don't bother with rotation anyway (apart from keepers).

      1. andy85wsm
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        • 16 Years
        11 years, 11 days ago

        Yeah I mainly just go for GK rotations although sometimes if there's a good cheap def rotation I'll do that too. All depends.

    3. Holmes
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 11 days ago

      Moi! But my team is almost done 😀

    4. Black Knights
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 11 days ago

      I printed them off. And then have ignored them since.

  7. FPL Daniel
    • 17 Years
    11 years, 11 days ago

    I hope next new post to be FPL is open !!!

    1. Konig Luther
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 11 days ago

      pretty sure they will another new post between today and friday

      1. Konig Luther
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 11 days ago

        will have*

    2. Holmes
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 11 days ago

      That'll take another 7 days

      1. FPL Daniel
        • 17 Years
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        7 days and we'll drop death

    3. Jafalad
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 11 days ago

      Keep going Dan - it is coming 😉

  8. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 11 days ago

    Lucy,

    with reference to Toby situation. Surely the player has a say in the matter... If he doesn't want to go to the Saints then no one can force him. If AM have blundered by missing the deadline date then they pay compensation which Spurs will no doubt stump up for...

    Why would you want a player that if if true doesn't want to play for you?

    1. Lucy.
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 11 days ago

      He is quite willing to play for us apparently 🙂 He hasn't rejected us at all.

      1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 11 days ago

        Lucy, it appears to be the case that he doesn't want to play for Saints and would prefer the move to Spurs... obviously this is just based on what is being said but if he wanted to play for the saints then spurs would have dropped out by now I reckon,...

        1. internal error
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 11 days ago

          Then surely if Toby told Southampton that he wasn't interested, then they would have dropped out by now

          1. internal error
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            11 years, 11 days ago

            the last thing I read, was that he was happy to join either club

          2. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
            • 14 Years
            11 years, 11 days ago

            Southampton are holding on as they know they will get compensation IMO....

            Simple as that..

            They are going to earn out of this for doing nothing and AM making a mistake...

        2. ronty
          • 14 Years
          11 years, 11 days ago

          classic case of geography 😀

        3. Lucy.
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 11 days ago

          We don't really know either way. I get the sense that he'll play for either - staying in the PL and not returning to Atletico seems to be his priority. He may prefer to play for Spurs, that looks possible (we don't really know, do we, but seems to add up), but that doesn't necessarily mean he wouldn't be contented to play at Saints if the Spurs move wasn't possible/legal (as is looking increasingly the case). I think he's just keen to move, one way or another.

          1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
            • 14 Years
            11 years, 11 days ago

            Legally Toby has the right to choose whoever he wants to play for...

            As I said before legally the mistake was by AM not him and if his preference is Spurs that's where he will go...

            Saints will then get compensation

            1. Lucy.
              • 12 Years
              11 years, 11 days ago

              Well in which case, if he's so intent on not playing for us, he'll reject us. But I think you'll find you're being way too black and white on this one. You can have preferences but that doesn't mean you hate the other options.

              1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
                • 14 Years
                11 years, 11 days ago

                never said he hated the other option, just that Saints cannot force him to sign for them..

                If he wants to go to Spurs he will...

                Don't think there is any grey area on this...

                1. Lucy.
                  • 12 Years
                  11 years, 11 days ago

                  I think he just wants to finish at Atletico.

                  1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
                    • 14 Years
                    11 years, 11 days ago

                    True but if I recall correctly you said legally he cannot sign for Spurs, no?

                    that is not correct IMO..

                    1. Lucy.
                      • 12 Years
                      11 years, 11 days ago

                      Well Southampton's legal team seem to think otherwise, judging by the way things have progressed. They must think they can put a stop to things or it wouldn't have escalated.

                      1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
                        • 14 Years
                        11 years, 11 days ago

                        Any legal team will put up a fight to get a couple of million.... why wouldn't they..

                        If and I emphasis the word if Toby decides to go to Spurs then it will be a simple case of compensation paid to Saint by AM which Spurs will ultimately pay

                      2. Lucy.
                        • 12 Years
                        11 years, 11 days ago

                        Plus presumably the original 1.5m which Atletico had to pay to take Toby onto the open market at the end of the loan agreement?

                      3. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
                        • 14 Years
                        11 years, 11 days ago

                        most probably...

                        it really is up to how much Spurs want to spend and if Toby's preference is with them...

                        If it's not then that of course is a different matter

                      4. Lucy.
                        • 12 Years
                        11 years, 11 days ago

                        I think it is with them. The Vertonghen role seems to be important. Presumably part of the Spurs fee will just be redirected to Saints.

                      5. pompeyfan
                        • 16 Years
                        11 years, 11 days ago

                        and Eriksen, the 3 of them played together for a fair bit

            2. pompeyfan
              • 16 Years
              11 years, 11 days ago

              AM will be extremely keen to sell him to Tottenham for more money, as Ajax will be due something around 25% of the fee (I think), so if Tottenham pay more as well as the penalty clause to Southampton it is win-win for AM

              1. internal error
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 13 Years
                11 years, 11 days ago

                its around 6mil for Southampton and around 10-11 mil for spurs isnt it? so about 2.5 mil goes to ajax and i'd guess maybe a couple mil to southampton.

              2. Lucy.
                • 12 Years
                11 years, 11 days ago

                Compensation would be due, that seems to be the general consensus. AM would likely end up with less than if we'd just bought him at a lower price.

        4. Eze Really?
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 11 days ago

          Its clear anyway he does not want to play for Atletico.

          1. Lucy.
            • 12 Years
            11 years, 11 days ago

            On that we can agree. 😀

    2. Holmes
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 11 days ago

      Madness to pick Spurs over Saints -_-

      1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 11 days ago

        🙄

      2. Tomeister
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 11 days ago

        Why?

    3. Billy Gilmore
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 11 days ago

      I can't see how a clause like that can be legally enforced. I can understand the inclusion of a fee which Soton can pay and Atletico have to sell, but I don't see how you can physically prevent someone from agreeing separate terms with Atletico. Certainly doesn't seem ethical either.

      But ultimately the power is in Toby's hands as he's the one that has to sign the contract.

      1. Lucy.
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 11 days ago

        I assume Saints are fairly convinced they can enforce it or Koeman wouldn't have sounded quite so buoyant in the interview yesterday.

        1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
          • 14 Years
          11 years, 11 days ago

          Taking that with a pinch of salt...

          No way they can force a player to play for them if he hasn't signed a contract...

          1. Lucy.
            • 12 Years
            11 years, 11 days ago

            But you're assuming he wouldn't want to based on media hype 😛

            1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
              • 14 Years
              11 years, 11 days ago

              no offense but Spurs are a much bigger club than Southampton..

              i really like your team but that is the reality...

              He will want to go to a club with more chance of playing in CL (albeit that chance isn't that great) and also think the fact Vertonghen is there is proving to be a factor

              1. Lucy.
                • 12 Years
                11 years, 11 days ago

                You're again conflating a preference with one team with not wanting to sign with another! I've admitted repeatedly that he probably prefers Spurs but that doesn't mean he wouldn't be happy to play for Saints if things went awry.

                1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
                  • 14 Years
                  11 years, 11 days ago

                  I have never said he wouldn't be happy to play for Saints if there is no choice but there is one so can't see it happening....

                  1. Lucy.
                    • 12 Years
                    11 years, 11 days ago

                    And then we get money for Atletico's incompetence 😀

                    1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
                      • 14 Years
                      11 years, 11 days ago

                      yep...

                      1. Lucy.
                        • 12 Years
                        11 years, 11 days ago

                        I agree. If there's a choice, he'll go to Spurs. I never doubted that. I just questioned the whole idea of him not wanting to come to Saints. 🙂 I believe he'd go to either if it meant leaving Atletico.

                      2. internal error
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 13 Years
                        11 years, 11 days ago

                        if that's what you think, then you must agree with Old School, that Southampton are now just after the compensation fee

                      3. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
                        • 14 Years
                        11 years, 11 days ago

                        I agree wholeheartedly...

                      4. Lucy.
                        • 12 Years
                        11 years, 11 days ago

                        I disagreed about him not wanting to come to Saints. I think it's an epic that will probably end up with Spurs winning, Saints getting a chunk of money, and someone at Atletico being fired.

                      5. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
                        • 14 Years
                        11 years, 11 days ago

                        I could have worded it a little better in fairness.... I meant preference on that part....

                        My main point was on the legalities and it being up to the player

                      6. Lucy.
                        • 12 Years
                        11 years, 11 days ago

                        At the end of the day, it's football. If you throw enough money at a problem, it will go away.

      2. Billy Gilmore
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 11 days ago

        Also don't think Spurs have done anything wrong. If anything illegal has happened, surely it's at Atletico's end?

        1. Lucy.
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 11 days ago

          Siren's angle on the previous post seemed to be that once Spurs were made aware of this breach of contract, they'd be implicated if they continued with the deal. But I'm no lawyer, I don't know if that's true.

          1. Billy Gilmore
            • 14 Years
            11 years, 11 days ago

            Maybe, I just think if there is any compensation then surely it has to be paid by Atletico as they're the ones that blatantly went against their legal obligation.

            1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
              • 14 Years
              11 years, 11 days ago

              correct Billy and spurs will pay it to them to persuade them to sell to them instead...

            2. Lucy.
              • 12 Years
              11 years, 11 days ago

              Oh yeah, I assume it would come out of Atletico's purse. I presume part of the fee Spurs pay will be redirected to Saints.

              1. internal error
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 13 Years
                11 years, 11 days ago

                for £10-14mil. that's a very good deal for Spurs

  9. Punty
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 11 days ago

    I can see Arsenal conceding in all of those first 6 games.. maybe wait a bit with bringing in Arsenal-defender?

    1. Jebiga
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 11 days ago

      cech

    2. Holmes
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 11 days ago

      You think WHM, Palace, Newcastle and Stoke can score against them?

      1. Punty
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 11 days ago

        Maybe not west ham but I think the others can, specially Palace and Stoke

  10. Im Not Marshal Foch
    • 17 Years
    11 years, 11 days ago

    I had a dream, which was not all a dream.
    The bright sun was extinguish'd, and the stars
    Did wander darkling in the eternal space,
    Rayless, and pathless, and the icy earth
    Swung blind and blackening in the moonless air;
    Morn came and went--and came, and brought no day,
    And men forgot their passions in the dread
    Of this their desolation; and all hearts
    Were chill'd into a selfish prayer for prices:
    And they did live by watchfires--and the thrones,
    The waiting of price lists--the cost,
    The habitations of all things which dwell,
    Oh patient they waited for the reopening of FPL

    1. Pasqualinho
      • 17 Years
      11 years, 11 days ago

      Ghost of seasons past. Welcome back.

      1. Im Not Marshal Foch
        • 17 Years
        11 years, 11 days ago

        Hey Hey I only post about one day a year... you can see my FPL history and how its dwindled since i stopped living on the site..

        1. Pasqualinho
          • 17 Years
          11 years, 11 days ago

          Those dizzy heights can be reached again. It's a bit harder now with over a million players and 3.5 million teams.

          1. Im Not Marshal Foch
            • 17 Years
            11 years, 11 days ago

            I'm taking it super serious this year so I might be on these boards a lot more than i've been over the last couple of years. Want to get back into the top 5k at least.

            Even more important now there are going to be Friday deadlines

  11. Im Not Marshal Foch
    • 17 Years
    11 years, 11 days ago

    #clickingrefreshwaitingfortomhuddlestonetonotbeonthefplhomepageanymore

    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 11 days ago

      Hello, INMF! Nice to see you, mate! 🙂

      1. Im Not Marshal Foch
        • 17 Years
        11 years, 11 days ago

        Hey buddy.. you too!

  12. Beavis
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    11 years, 11 days ago

    FPL Wizard app update

    Linus Hakansson (creator of FPL Wizard app) has replied to my email to tell me that a new version will indeed be released and will include certain new features too.

    Just FYI because I know a fair few people have asked about this.

    1. Nickofoz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 11 days ago

      What's FPL Wizard?

      1. Beavis
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        11 years, 11 days ago

        Apologies, for those who don't know:

        Fantasy Premier League Wizard is an application that gives you a huge advantage when playing Fantasy Premier League in terms of Clean-Sheet and goalscoring probability. The application features several functions for finding good rotation options using different rotation strategies. Depending on your settings and strategy, the app automatically creates a sorted list of teams that rotates well with the specific team(s) you selected. For every combination in the list, the application creates a suggested rotation schedule for you based on the fixture difficulties for every team in the search. The application calculates the difficulty for every single of the 760 fixtures of the 2013/2014 season by using individual prediction along with the current form of each team.

        Features:
        - The most popular rotation strategies: 2-Way Rotation, 3-Way Rotation (Play 1), 3-Way Rotation (Play 2).
        - A powerful custom strategy tool which let's you find rotation schedules for up to five different teams to be used simultaneously
        - Select factors like teams, gameweeks, maximum player price and difficulty for the different strategies' settings
        - Favourite your mouth-watering generated rotation schedules for easy access whenever you want
        - Fixtures for every team in the Premier League season 2013/2014
        - Eventual double-gameweeks and blank gameweeks are included in the calculation progress
        - Excellent How-To and Help instructions for every rotation strategy
        - Automatic, individual rating for every generated rotation schedule

        https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.linus.fplw&hl=en_GB

        1. President John F. Keninnsie
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 11 days ago

          I'm sure it's a great app, but personally I think the 2013/2014 fixtures won't be much use to me 😉

        2. Beavis
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          11 years, 11 days ago

          TLDR: It's an app that gives you all the different defensive rotation combos (3-way play 1, 3-way play 2, 2-way, etc.)

        3. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          11 years, 11 days ago

          But ... it's a Google app ... ðŸ™

    2. FAITHNOMORENO
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 11 days ago

      I was about to ask about fpl wizard.
      Thanks for the info.
      It was very helpful last year,helped a lot.

    3. JK - Cønt â­
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 11 days ago

      is this better for a phone rather than a PC?

  13. The Nuttmxn
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 11 days ago

    Best place to get computer from for I, an englishman. On my PS3 and need new one, old one died paying for membership 😯

    1. The Nuttmxn
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 11 days ago

      Didn't even succeed at that.

  14. Your Mum's Athletic
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 11 days ago

    Morning everyone! Giggity

    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 11 days ago

      Mornin', YMA! 🙂

      1. Your Mum's Athletic
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 11 days ago

        doff my hat to you

    2. Lucy.
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 11 days ago

      Hello YMA! I'm just off out actually but glad to catch you 🙂

      1. Your Mum's Athletic
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 11 days ago

        and a bow to you. giggity

    3. Jaffalicious! #SomosCubanos
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 11 days ago

      Hey YMA!

      What's going on?

      1. Your Mum's Athletic
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 11 days ago

        Not alot mate, quiet day work-wise so preparing quiz for thursday and finally getting a first look at some rotation options 🙂 you?

        1. Jaffalicious! #SomosCubanos
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 11 days ago

          Oooh a quiz!! I'll be sure to look out for it 😀

  15. LiDaoMing
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 11 days ago

    What have we learnt so far from this transfer window? There has been a great deal of hype and speculation about this or that player joining an EPL club, but it has not amounted to much so far. As in previous transfer windows, many of the top players in Europe are not actually moving, or if they do move, it is from one European club to another, rather than to the EPL.

    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 11 days ago

      That ain't necessarily so ... 😉

    2. Eze Really?
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 11 days ago

      Put yourself in the shoes of a good European footballer.

      Pros:
      Spain, Germany, Italy, OR England.
      They get a winter break.
      They get easy games at least 50% of the time.
      The injury/burnout rates are far lower.
      They get into sides with a level of certainty of playing in Europe.
      The above gives them an easier ride into national sides.
      They are less prone to burnout when playing Euro Champs, World Cups etc.
      England does not have such a good success rate in Euro comps anymore.
      Cons:
      THE MONEY but not always.
      Playing in stadiums with great enthusiastic crowds every week.

      I f I were one I would learn another language and play on the continent.

  16. Twelve years a slave
    • 15 Years
    11 years, 11 days ago

    I grow weary of empty words

    Goodnight

    empty words - loud and confused and empty talk; "mere rhetoric" empty talk, hot air, palaver, rhetoric hokum, meaninglessness, nonsense,...

    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 11 days ago

      BS? 😉

    2. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 11 days ago

      that made me laugh...

  17. Detweiler
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    11 years, 11 days ago

    After a successful season last season and superb help and support from the community, I have joined up as a Member for this season.

    Any advice on using the members tools - which are the best, what to avoid?

    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 11 days ago

      My tables! 😉

      Go here, and click on the "Votes" button, top rightish ... :

      http://members.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/public-stats-tables/

      1. Your Mum's Athletic
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 11 days ago

        I have to admit, a good percentage for becoming a member was so i could see your tables, especially when you reply to someone's comments with just a table link 🙂

      2. Detweiler
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        11 years, 11 days ago

        Thanks Doosra - I will have a good look! Can't be too bad with 200+ upvotes!

    2. Eze Really?
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 11 days ago

      I personally wish I could do the same.

    3. andy85wsm
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 11 days ago

      Not sure anything needs to be avoided but as always use the tools as a guide or something to help make decisions if needed - probably wouldn't base all decisions on all tools though! 🙂

      1. Detweiler
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        11 years, 11 days ago

        Thanks Andy, hoping it will be the difference between a 10k finish and at least a top 5k finish this season!

    4. Dr Dream
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 11 days ago

      Yep...Plenty of tables to look...but have a go at making your own.
      Also.
      Look at matches on the members home page (goes right back to gw1) and look at those midfield players who take an avg position ahead of the fwds (Gold)
      Also
      Don't be afraid to muck about with the season ticker by using your own numbers...Make it as simple or as complicated as you like.

      1. Detweiler
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        11 years, 11 days ago

        Thanks Doc. Is doing something like finding midfield players who take avg position ahead of fwds easily done?

  18. FPL Daniel
    • 17 Years
    11 years, 11 days ago

    F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5

    Come on lads let's make some pressure on the site. They are testing it obviously. Sooner they see increased traffic sooner they will be sure everything is ok and they will open

    F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5

    1. The_Colonel
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 11 days ago

      No logic, but doing it anyway!

      1. FPL Daniel
        • 17 Years
        11 years, 11 days ago

        And it's fun too 😉

    2. Lawrø
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 11 days ago

      I've got Distill Web Monitor reloading the pages every five seconds automatically for me 😎

      1. Parm
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 11 days ago

        Same 😛

      2. ihateramsey2
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 11 days ago

        is this reliable?

  19. FPL Daniel
    • 17 Years
    11 years, 11 days ago

    Everyone ready for big launch tonight at 4am ?

  20. Lucy.
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 11 days ago

    Some much needed defensive cover established!

    Alex Goring Crook ‏@alex_crook 6m6 minutes ago
    Cuco Martina's move to #saintsfc on a two-year deal has now been confirmed by his management company. Fee is 1.5m euros #transfers

    Alex Goring Crook ‏@alex_crook 2m2 minutes ago
    Quotes from Martina on his management company's website 'For me it was a surprise this transfer has been completed so quickly.' #saintsfc

    Alex Goring Crook ‏@alex_crook 57s58 seconds ago
    Martina 'For me it is a very good step and I hope I can make a lot of playing time at #saintsfc and get the chance to show what I can do.'

    1. Lanley Staurel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 11 days ago

      Excellent. Still a risk though building another new defence for the second year running. At least Koeman has some pedigree in the defensive field 😉

  21. CostaCoffee
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 11 days ago

    Play haxball go to room entitled Room in Ireland

  22. JK - Cønt â­
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 11 days ago

    @Doos

    excellent topic on rotation, definitely a couple on there that interest me 😀

    1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 11 days ago

      I have to say top stuff from Doos there

      1. JK - Cønt â­
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 11 days ago

        I like the SWA, NOR, WHM one

        will probably chuck Bournemouth in with them and 1 big defender

        Those home games for West Ham look too tasty to ignore

        I did come up with one myself

        http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/2015/07/06/scout-report-tyrone-mings/?hc_page=7#hc_comment_10456191

        1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
          • 14 Years
          11 years, 11 days ago

          will take a gander... cheers

  23. Somalion
    • 16 Years
    11 years, 11 days ago

    Sky sources understand Toby Alderweireld has undergone a medical at Tottenham with the view to completing a permanent move from Atletico Madrid.

    1. internal error
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 11 days ago

      Lucy will be pleased......

      1. Lucy.
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 11 days ago

        Was looking probable yesterday. I just thought it would stretch out longer.

      2. Somalion
        • 16 Years
        11 years, 11 days ago

        I reckon there could be more in this yet.

        Not sure why he's switching, really. Maybe likes some of their players or something.

    2. Lanley Staurel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 11 days ago

      Inevitable. Money (salary no doubt) talks. Saints should be able to leverage a few extra Euros out of Athletico through the threat of litigation.

      1. Somalion
        • 16 Years
        11 years, 11 days ago

        I hope they do. Well, I shall have to see how he gets on at Spurs now.

      2. Eze Really?
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 11 days ago

        Atletico needed to pay 1.5mil before a deadline to stop the permanent clause coming into effect. They did not. If Toby wants Spurs then Saints should get the difference. Simple.

      3. Woy
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 11 days ago

        Good news is that Les is in madrid, not sat in Staplewood on the phone.

  24. The_Colonel
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 11 days ago

    Someone out there knows! Speak up!

    1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 11 days ago

      It was Macdonalds that spread the rumour about what you used as Chicken

      1. The_Colonel
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 11 days ago

        Hey! Our chicken is 100% edible!

  25. Jaffalicious! #SomosCubanos
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 11 days ago

    Toby medical at Spurs according to SSN. Such a shame for Saints ðŸ™

    1. Lucy.
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 11 days ago

      ðŸ™

      1. Lucy.
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 11 days ago

        Expecting compensation though. At the end of the day, before this legal mess came out, a Spurs move was expected. The legal thing was the only thing providing hope. It clearly isn't much of a problem.

        1. Jaffalicious! #SomosCubanos
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 11 days ago

          Chasing money imo. He's going to be fighting for starts at Spurs no?

          1. Lucy.
            • 12 Years
            11 years, 11 days ago

            I should imagine he'll start. But they have options if his form drops.

          2. internal error
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            11 years, 11 days ago

            they have DIer, Vertonghen and Wimmer as well. Can see some used for cups games and europa, much like Ben Davies was at Left back

          3. Hasselbaink Forever
            • 12 Years
            11 years, 11 days ago

            The large Belgian contingent and playing at the back with Vertonghen again probably helped

    2. Somalion
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 11 days ago

      I think he should have stayed but that's how it goes.

    3. Dr Dream
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 11 days ago

      That's the type of club they are....but they're good at reinventing themselves. For all we know Koeman may well reinvent them to be even better than last year, exciting times.

      1. Woy
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 11 days ago

        Hope so!

  26. Somalion
    • 16 Years
    11 years, 11 days ago

    Southampton have confirmed the signing of defender Cuco Martina from FC Twente on a two-year deal.

    1. The Light Knight
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 11 days ago

      Highly meh, hopefully won't get PL minutes

      1. Lucy.
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 11 days ago

        I think he's just there for depth.

        1. The Light Knight
          • 14 Years
          11 years, 11 days ago

          Yep, that's why I hope he only gets Europa and Cup games as he's otherwise just going to weaken Cedric as an FPL option

          1. Lucy.
            • 12 Years
            11 years, 11 days ago

            We needed cover last season, particularly at RB. I think this is just a move to address it. He's only cost 1.5m euros.

            1. The Light Knight
              • 14 Years
              11 years, 11 days ago

              Being cheap and being there are his 2 main attributes, wouldn't want to be relying on him at all though

              1. Lucy.
                • 12 Years
                11 years, 11 days ago

                I think we'll bring through Mugabi when fit 😀

            2. pompeyfan
              • 16 Years
              11 years, 11 days ago

              Yeah Twente are in desperate trouble financially so there is a fire sale going on. Ziyech would be a good signing too

      2. Somalion
        • 16 Years
        11 years, 11 days ago

        Toby on the way out so they better get somebody else!

        1. Lucy.
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 11 days ago

          Come on, it's Southampton 😉 Of course we will!

          1. Somalion
            • 16 Years
            11 years, 11 days ago

            Have a lovely little runner in the name of Phil Jones. Straight swap, him for Morgan, sounds fair to me 😉

            1. Lucy.
              • 12 Years
              11 years, 11 days ago

              *pulls a Phil Jones expression*

        2. The Light Knight
          • 14 Years
          11 years, 11 days ago

          Caulker's available right? 😉

          1. Somalion
            • 16 Years
            11 years, 11 days ago

            Oh please don't do that to me. Then I have another preseason of arguing with people who think he's good.

        3. Eze Really?
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 11 days ago

          Was Toby that much better than Yoshida?

          1. Lucy.
            • 12 Years
            11 years, 11 days ago

            Significantly. Yoshida is poo.

            1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 16 Years
              11 years, 11 days ago

              RUBBISH!!! 😛 😉

          2. Somalion
            • 16 Years
            11 years, 11 days ago

            Yoshida is technically very good, as are a lot of players coming from Japan and Asia. But his strength is just non existent, far too easy to push him around, which is arguably one of the worst things someone can say about a CB.

  27. Henrzd
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 11 days ago

    Predictions for when FPL will open again??

    1. Holmes
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 11 days ago

      6th of Aug *fingerscrossed*

    2. Jax
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 11 days ago

      not htis again. just feckin wait can you all.

    3. Pork Pie Sausage Roll
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 11 days ago

      tomorrow afternoon

  28. Lucy.
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 11 days ago

    Southampton FC ‏@SouthamptonFC 4m4 minutes ago
    CONFIRMED: #SaintsFC have completed the signing of defender @CucoMartina on a two-year deal from @FCTwente.

    1. Woy
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 11 days ago

      As expected.
      Now for Clasie and hopefully Toby or a similar player.

      1. Lucy.
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 11 days ago

        Toby due a medical at Spurs ðŸ™

    2. Dr Dream
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 11 days ago

      Will he be first choice if Toby goes ?...It's gonna be a bit of a shot in the dark picking a Soton defender at this rate.

      1. Lucy.
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 11 days ago

        Nope. He's definitely defensive cover, see below 🙂 Don't worry.

        1. Jax
          • 16 Years
          11 years, 11 days ago

          Bertrand out for a few weeks too.

  29. Parm
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 11 days ago

    Seems like Darmian to United is a go....

    1. JK - Cønt â­
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 11 days ago

      hopefully

      don't know much about him but he's not Valencia, so that's a good start

      1. The Light Knight
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 11 days ago

        Nor is he Rafael - double bonus

    2. Lawrø
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 11 days ago

      Not a bad player but it must be quite disappointing considering the calibre of players linked!

      1. The Light Knight
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 11 days ago

        Italy's RB? Certainly sounds better than Ireland's RB or England's reserve RB 😉

        1. Somalion
          • 16 Years
          11 years, 11 days ago

          A former Irish fullback by the name of Denis Irwin wants a word. 😉

          1. The Light Knight
            • 14 Years
            11 years, 11 days ago

            Denis was a Law unto himself 😉

            1. Somalion
              • 16 Years
              11 years, 11 days ago

              Just suggesting that United could do with another Irish FB 😉

        2. Eze Really?
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 11 days ago

          A relief for Evertonians!

    3. The_Colonel
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 11 days ago

      Good player, great buy

    4. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 11 days ago

      Very good player. Nice buy

    5. Jax
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 11 days ago

      just like gundogan was...

  30. Your Mum's Athletic
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 11 days ago

    @SouthamptonFC 27s27 seconds ago

    Reed: "Injuries to @ryanbertrand3 and @B_M321 highlighted the need to bring in another defender. Cuco is the perfect solution." #saintsfc

    1. Lucy.
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 11 days ago

      Interesting that they were regarding Mugabi as cover before the move. 😀

      1. Your Mum's Athletic
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 11 days ago

        🙂