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Fantasy Premier League – Player List Analysis – Goalkeepers

The launch of the Fantasy Premier League (FPL) game heralds the start of our series of player list analysis articles, which scrutinise each player position and look at the best options across the price brackets.

We begin our articles by assessing the last line of defence and run the rule over goalkeeper options.

We focus not only on their clean sheet prospects, but their potential to earn points from saves and from bonus via the FPL’s Bonus Point System (BPS).

As with all these pre-season articles, we’ll focus on each price bracket – offering our view on targets for those who want to spend big on one reliable stopper, as well as those looking to rotate a pair of budget keepers.

Budget Keepers

The prospect of a starting goalkeeper in the 4.0 bracket was looking slim. However, there is now just a chance that Hull City’s Eldin Jakupovic could earn starts if boss Steve Bruce fails to recruit a replacement for number one keeper Allan McGregor (4.5), who is sidelined for the next six months with a back injury.

Jakupovic will hope to start as number one in McGregor’s absence, although Bruce is rumoured to be lining up a move for Crystal Palace’s second string stopper, Alex McCarthy who sets you back 4.5.

When you shift your sights into that price bracket, it’s another of the promoted sides that catches the eye.

Burnley’s Tom Heaton ticks a number of boxes. Not only is he guaranteed starts but his 130 saves when the Clarets were last in the top flight, in 2014/15, give considerable cause for optimism. This was the third best tally of any keeper that season.

Heaton also has a strong early set of fixtures, including home ties against Swansea, Hull and Watford in the first six Gameweeks, that rotate well with other budget friendly keepers.

West Brom’s Ben Foster (4.5) looks to be an ideal rotation match for Heaton early on, particularly in Gameweeks two and three, when the Baggies host Everton and Middlesbrough and Burnley face a pair of tricky ties, at home to Liverpool and away to Chelsea.

An injury hit 2015/16 has ensured that Foster has retained a budget price tag, in spite of his strong tally of 46 saves across just 15 appearances.

For those looking for an alternative rotation partner with Foster, Sunderland’s Vito Mannone (4.5) offers a very viable option.

This pairing provide a strong first eight Gameweek run that includes two home clashes with Middlesbrough and visits from Crystal Palace and West Brom.

Rotation early on with Costel Pantilimon saw Mannone earn just 19 starts last season and that has contributed to preserving his low price tag. With a highly impressive 76 saves over that period, Mannone looks to offer exceptional value, particularly if Sam Allardyce remains in situ at the Stadium of Light, thus giving Sunderland some stability heading into the new campaign.

Middlesbrough’s early fixtures also brings their goalkeepers into the equation, with former Manchester United stopper Victor Valdes (4.5) expected to oust last season’s regular number one Dimi Konstantopoulos (4.5).

With Stoke and Palace the first two visitors to the Riverside, around away trips to Sunderland and West Brom, the allure of Aitor Karanka’s rearguard is hard to ignore. However, with George Friend available in the same price bracket and offering stronger attacking and bonus point potential, it’s likely that many will look beyond Boro’s stoppers, particularly with the fixtures stiffening from Gameweek 5 onwards.

Crystal Palace may have only kept eight clean sheets last season but the signings of Steve Mandanda (4.5) and James Tomkins (5.0) could potentially see Alan Pardew’s men make strides.

Mandanda is expected to see off Wayne Hennessey (4.5) for the number one jersey at Selhurst Park and with West Brom, Bournemouth and Stoke the first three visitors, he has the opportunity to claim early returns.

Mid-Price Keepers

With a 2015/16 season topping 127 saves, Watford’s Heurelho Gomes (5.0) is arguably the strongest mid-priced option for the coming season.

In a stellar campaign which saw him save three spot kicks, Gomes also helped Watford rack up 11 clean sheets.

Swansea’s Lucasz Fabianski is another worthy candidate available for 5.0. With 117 saves he was second only to Gomes, although he will have to improve on his 2015/16 clean sheet tally of nine if he is to prove stronger value than this season’s budget keepers.

Jack Butland’s 2015/16 campaign was cut short after 31 games due to injury, but the Stoke keeper did more than enough during that time to earn a price hike to 5.0.

Butland’s save tally of 103 was the third best last season and only Gomes made more saves in the box than the Potters’ number one. However, with Man City and Tottenham visiting the Britannia Stadium in the first four Gameweeks, investors are advised to have a strong deputy in place, with Mannone providing one of the best rotation partners. Sunderland face home matches against Middlesbrough and Everton during those tough match-ups for Butland.

Stoke certainly have a run of obliging fixtures to follow their opening four Gameweeks so, if you can navigate that opening with rotation or are happy to rely on save points potential, Butland’s could once again emerge as a one-stop shop option.

West Ham’s Adrian also fits the bill in that respect, thanks to a raft of obliging early fixtures.

Over the first 11 Gameweeks the Hammers host Bournemouth, Watford, Middlesbrough, Sunderland and Stoke and also have kind away ties against West Brom and Crystal Palace. Middlesbrough and Crystal Palace also offer reasonable rotation partners with the 5.0 priced Hammers man.

Kasper Schmeichel is another 5.0 option to consider. After Leicester’s title-winning campaign, which included 15 clean sheets for the Dane, he has earned a price hike but still offers one of the cheapest and reliable routes into the Foxes defence. In addition, his 101 saves last season put him joint fifth with Adrian.

However, with N’Golo Kante now departed for Chelsea, there are concerns that Leicester’s back four will be more exposed, reducing their clean sheet potential whilst perhaps boosting Schmeichel’s save count.

Ronald Koeman’s appointment as Everton manager has prompted a re-appraisal of their defensive resolve and will have us monitoring the goalkeeper situation.

Koeman moved quickly to seal the capture of Maarten Stekelenburg from Fulham, which has us questioning Joel Robles‘ credentials as the Toffee’s number one.

Both are priced at 5.0 and could offer value given Everton’s early fixtures which find them hosting Stoke, Middlesbrough and Crystal Palace once the opening clash with Spurs has passed. Away trips to West Brom, Sunderland and Bournemouth also offer potential if Koeman can instill some much-needed resolve into the Everton back-line.

Premium Keepers

With the FPL deciding against nominating any 6.0 goalkeepers, we’re looking at just 5.5 in order to acquire a top-of-the-range stopper.

Among this elite group, Petr Cech offers not only strong clean sheet potential but also save points aplenty.

His 159 FPL points last season was the highest amongst goalkeepers, and was achieved thanks to his 102 saves, the fourth best last season, and 16 clean sheets – the top overall tally.

With price hikes for Gunners defenders such as Hector Bellerin (6.5), Cech’s price tag makes him the cheapest route into Arsenal’s strong clean sheet potential. It is worth noting that among regular keepers last season, Cech had the highest points per game of 4.7.

Arsenal’s fixtures are also kind enough to promote Cech as an option, with a strong run of opponents once the Liverpool and Leicester opening match-ups pass by.

Despite notching 15 clean sheets 2015/16 was a relatively poor season for Manchester United’s David De Gea as an FPL asset. A lack of save points was his key weakness, with the Spain international achieving just 83 across his 34 outings.

It’s difficult to say how United’s rearguard will fare under the stewardship of Jose Mourinho. There’s no doubt that Louis van Gaal’s methods boosted clean sheet returns at Old Trafford and, while we can perhaps anticipate this being maintained under the new regime, it’s tough to speculate whether De Gea will be called into action more readily, boosting his shot-stopping points. We do know that, with the fit-again Luke Shaw also available for 5.5, there is perhaps a more attractive route to covering Mourinho’s defence.

Elsewhere, both Hugo Lloris and Thibaut Courtois will be considerations but, as with United, the members of Tottenham’s and Chelsea’s back four appear more attractive. Their cast of defenders offer a degree of attacking threat that outweighs any promise from save points and bonus from their goalkeeper.

A final mention goes to Joe Hart, who was another to impress last season with 15 clean sheets. However, with a string of questionable performances for England in Euro 2016 and a poor save tally in 2015/16 of just 72, he seems unlikely to tempt investment.

We’re expecting great strides under Pep Guardiola but he has a lot to do before us FPL managers are convinced on Manchester City’s pricey rearguard.

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  1. JAC THE CAT
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 3 months ago

    I think I need to drop Kane for the first few gameweeks, cant get a good side with him in.

    1. vova
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 3 months ago

      considering him over Ibra

      1. Tommytour
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 3 months ago

        Ibra first 3 > Kane

    2. Tommytour
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 3 months ago

      Looking to bring him in GW4

      Possibly on wildcard

      1. JAC THE CAT
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 3 months ago

        I think I might in GW4 if he starts off well

  2. Jay10
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 3 months ago

    Just realized,I don't have a player from last season's top 3.

    1. theeribert
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 3 months ago

      Wow, just realized the same.

    2. Swan - Villa Proud
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 3 months ago

      Same. Euro fatigue and pricing. Plan on getting ARS players after GW3

      1. Jay10
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 3 months ago

        Who,do you think Arsenal defense will be better than Conte's and Mourinho's? And do you think Sanchez will justify his 11.0 price tag?

        1. Pariße
          • 9 Years
          8 years, 3 months ago

          I'm thinking Ozil, but not in the first 2 gameweeks.

    3. ★Kuntheman★
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 3 months ago

      ...same. Wow.

    4. Jay10
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 3 months ago

      Glad I am not the only one.

    5. JAC THE CAT
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 3 months ago

      And me!

    6. Pariße
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 3 months ago

      Preatty reasonable, most Arsenal top picks were in the Euros, Tottenham and Leicester are too expensive.

  3. zotter
    • 15 Years
    8 years, 3 months ago

    Bottomed rmt...

    Hennessey. Heaton
    Terry. Pieters. Friend. Wimmer. Shaw
    Kdb. Cesc. Alli. Ibe. Fletcher
    Kun. Sturridge. Beharino.

    1. AllGonePozzo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 3 months ago

      Think Mandanda will replace Hennessey

    2. Pariße
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 3 months ago

      Mandanda 100%. Great keeper.

  4. Super Frank8
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 3 months ago

    Happy with this lot. What are your thoughts?

    Forster/Jakupovic

    Shaw/Baines/Friend/Taylor/Lenihen

    Hazard/Martial/Firmino/Townsend/Hojberg

    Aguero/Lukaku/Long or Austin

    1. zotter
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 3 months ago

      Like it alot. No criticism ! What are the chances you stick with that though !!

      1. Super Frank8
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 3 months ago

        Very low haha. Good starter I think though

  5. Over Midwicket
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 3 months ago

    Who's your pick of the newly promoted strikers? Some are on pens and scored 20+ goals in the championship last season.

    A) Gray
    B) Hernandez
    C) Vokes
    D) Other

    1. Larry Legend
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 3 months ago

      Is Hernandez on pens? If so, him. I'm not convinced about Gray especially at 6.5, he didn't get a great scout report on here anyway.

      1. Over Midwicket
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 3 months ago

        Yeah he's on pens. Great little player

  6. goriuanx
    • 14 Years
    8 years, 3 months ago

    No YYT and Fabregas love.

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 3 months ago

      Don't think Jonty has YYT.

      1. goriuanx
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 3 months ago

        Jonty has him and Milner for sure.

    2. Over Midwicket
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 3 months ago

      Yaya is dead to me

    3. Larry Legend
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 3 months ago

      Fab could be a steal at 7.5

    4. Piggs Boson
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 3 months ago

      Massive Cesc love here. I think he's a bargain.

  7. TorresMagic™
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 15 Years
    8 years, 3 months ago

    178 in LMS so far. Looks like an easy win for someone.

    1. RᴀᴄɪɴɢTᴏᴀᴅ
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 3 months ago

      I joined! 😀

    2. mad_beer ✅
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 3 months ago

      Just joined!

    3. Gazpilicueta
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 3 months ago

      how do i join?

      1. TorresMagic™
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 15 Years
        8 years, 3 months ago

        Roll a dice.

      2. Gazpilicueta
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 3 months ago

        Im in

  8. BB-8
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 3 months ago

    Random question-
    What is the biggest hike a player has had?
    Kane 14-15(4.5m) to 15-16(9.5m) ? Or is there someone else?

    1. zotter
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 3 months ago

      Delle alli equivalent hike for a mid.

      Andy Carroll started 1011 as a 5.0 then was a 9.5 for pool

      1. BB-8
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 3 months ago

        Alli is 5m to 8.5m no?

    2. Gazpilicueta
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 3 months ago

      really random question, why is your favorite colour of air guitar?

      1. BB-8
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 3 months ago

        Who doesn't love air guitar 😉

  9. vova
    • 14 Years
    8 years, 3 months ago

    Any good 3-way cheap defensive rotations?

    1. AllGonePozzo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 3 months ago

      I've gone for Friend/Evans/Holebas

  10. Lone Wolf FPL
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 3 months ago

    2 questions:

    1. best 2 defenders for 4.5 to rotate
    2. best cheap 5 mid

  11. Gazpilicueta
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 3 months ago

    Rate my team!

    first draft, just players that I like, e.g. I haven't done any research yet

    Foster, Pantimillion
    Bellerin, Daniels, Fuchs, Paredes, Amat
    Hazard, Ozil, Townsend, Drinkwater, Fletcher
    Sturridge, Aguero(c), Gray
    £0.5 in the bank

    Ideally I would like more money in the bank, but I like the feel of this front 7, Also I would like some Man U, would be happy with just one.....but who to pick? and who to get rid of?

    1. ★Kuntheman★
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 3 months ago

      Sturridge is a tough investment with those first fixtures

      1. Gazpilicueta
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 3 months ago

        sure, you are probably right, but if he doesnt get injured, in my opinion he could rival Aguero this year

        1. ★Kuntheman★
          • 8 Years
          8 years, 3 months ago

          Gutsy call there. Good luck. I feel like his price will drop in the first few weeks. Would pick him up after that though.

    2. theeribert
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 3 months ago

      Maybe Mkhitaryan for Özil for now?

    3. AllGonePozzo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 3 months ago

      2 certain non starters in Pantilimon and Parades

  12. Pariße
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 3 months ago

    Best 5.0m Everton defender?
    A) Jags
    B) Stones
    C) Funes Mori

    1. ★Kuntheman★
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 3 months ago

      Funes Mori. Goal threat.

      1. Pariße
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 3 months ago

        I was considering that as well... but is he nailed?

    2. RᴀᴄɪɴɢTᴏᴀᴅ
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 3 months ago

      I went with Mori for the goal throat! 😛

  13. ★Kuntheman★
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 3 months ago

    Thoughts on this team? Kinda planning for the short term:

    Foster (Valdes)
    Otamendi Shaw Morgan (Funes Mori, McAuley)
    De Bruyne(vc) Sigurdsson Barkley Townsend (Fletcher)
    Aguero(c) Lukaku Long

    1. zotter
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 3 months ago

      Don't like the Everton double

      1. ★Kuntheman★
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 3 months ago

        Amazing first few fixtures

        1. zotter
          • 15 Years
          8 years, 3 months ago

          Not Barkley though imo

          1. ★Kuntheman★
            • 8 Years
            8 years, 3 months ago

            Would be Mata if he goes to Everton

            1. Pariße
              • 9 Years
              8 years, 3 months ago

              You desperately want that 3rd Everton man 😀

    2. Tommytour
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 3 months ago

      I like it, maybe a bit too much in defence though

      1. ★Kuntheman★
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 3 months ago

        Wanted to be able to rotate. Can't see any upgrades I'd want to make in the midfield because the best 8.0-8.5 options are Liverpool players. Long bothers me though. Want Benteke and Mata to make moves.

        1. Tommytour
          • 13 Years
          8 years, 3 months ago

          Upgrade Barkley he did nothing second half

          1. ★Kuntheman★
            • 8 Years
            8 years, 3 months ago

            Who should I push to get?

            1. Tommytour
              • 13 Years
              8 years, 3 months ago

              Alli?

          2. Frank Black
            • 11 Years
            8 years, 3 months ago

            And what about the first half?

            1. Tommytour
              • 13 Years
              8 years, 3 months ago

              Not exactly form is it?

              1. Frank Black
                • 11 Years
                8 years, 3 months ago

                Form? He was great and it was his first season as a starter. Now he has a better manager, more experience and great fixtures; we're not choosing players that we're going to keep until the end of the season.

  14. Jay10
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 3 months ago

    Gary Lineker ‏@GaryLineker 45s46 seconds ago
    Match report: @OUFCOfficial 1 @LCFC 2. Demarai Gray will be one hell of a player. Ahmed Musa looked Vardyesque. Excellent acquisition.

    1. Däzzy
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 3 months ago

      Andre gray was class in the first half

      1. Frank Black
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 3 months ago

        He'd be my fifth mid if he was a starter but he'll rotate with Albrighton and Mahrez between PL and CL.

  15. Tommytour
    • 13 Years
    8 years, 3 months ago

    Lots of value to be made with a GW2 wildcard this year with casuals picking the likes of Ozil Payet etc

    1. Tommytour
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 3 months ago

      Optimus will be in his prime 🙂

      Quite proud of that one

    2. Pariße
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 3 months ago

      I think both those clubs will be successful this season, but their players should become useful after GW1. These 2 are top picks.

  16. Lovren an elevator
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 3 months ago

    I've got 6th pick in my draft league.
    Any insight who the first 5 picks are likely to be?

  17. Kizza_10
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 3 months ago

    Rating out of 10 please:
    Valdes
    Evans Baines Morgan
    KDB Fabregas Alli Noble
    Wilson Aguero Ibrahimovic

    Subs:
    Pickford,Parades,Bruce,Capoue

    1. Däzzy
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 3 months ago

      5.5 which isn't too bad by my hard ratings

      1. Däzzy
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 3 months ago

        Sorry just saw your bench and have also reconsidered your team. I give it a 4

    2. Lovren an elevator
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 3 months ago

      First time I've seen Noble in a draft! I quite like him though. Morgan won't be as good without kante sitting in front of him. Fabregas will be good if he plays ahead of the double pivot, which I guess he could do now they've got kante.
      No other criticisms for me, I mean your bench sucks but hey, it's a bench

      1. zotter
        • 15 Years
        8 years, 3 months ago

        Noble I like. Hammers are a good side now and he is playing a lampard type role

        1. Kizza_10
          • 10 Years
          8 years, 3 months ago

          I think Noble is a very underrated player, the fact he's on pens helps as well.

          1. Lovren an elevator
            • 9 Years
            8 years, 3 months ago

            Agreed. He's nailed obviously, on pens and asides from Payet, he gets good assist returns

  18. Garlana
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 3 months ago

    Couldn't log into my account even though I'm adamant my username and password were correct!! Reset it, but they don't appear to be sending the reset details...argh I just want to start drafting!!!

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 3 months ago

      Try Ctrl+F5

    2. Just A Hat
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 3 months ago

      Had the same issue, the email will come eventually (took about 45 minutes)

      1. Garlana
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 3 months ago

        Great, will check later and learn to he patient

        1. Pariße
          • 9 Years
          8 years, 3 months ago

          If you look anything like 'the person' on your grav, your computer has probably been smashed by now 🙂

    3. Spectrum-FFS Doubles Champ
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 3 months ago

      Clear the cache, refresh, try logging in with a different browser

    4. Frank Black
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 3 months ago

      It happened to me too, i managed to login when i typed in the email in full without clicking on Chrome's "suggestion".

  19. nimbin_headers
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    8 years, 3 months ago

    Rmt please:
    Heaton courtois

    Gabriel Baily funes Francis ward

    Iwobi fabs firmino Townsend kante

    Aguero ibra Wilson

    1. zotter
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 3 months ago

      Iwobi no.

      1. nimbin_headers
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 3 months ago

        Maybe he will get a start with everyone coming back from euros don't you think?

    2. zotter
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 3 months ago

      Kante no no

      1. nimbin_headers
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 3 months ago

        Kante just cheap mid

    3. RᴀᴄɪɴɢTᴏᴀᴅ
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 3 months ago

      Might as well downgrade Kante to a 4.5.

  20. FAITHNOMORENO
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 3 months ago

    first draft here:

    valdes / robles ---------------------------------------- (seems like a nice cheapish rotation)
    shaw / sagna / simpson / ake / kone ------------ ( 2 big defenders, 3-way rotation btw lei / bor / sun)
    silva / tadic / bolasie / redmond / adomah ------ ( a bit meh midfield, good fixtures for everyone though)
    ibrahimovic / aguero / gray ------------------------ ( dynamite up front, and if something turns bad, easy to reorganize funds)

    thousand drafts to come till 13th, of course (won't post 1% of them here)

    1. kamrannadim98
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 3 months ago

      will sagna start for sure?

  21. thepuntmaster
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 3 months ago

    Not much vary love then?

    1. ekul the lokonga enthusiast
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 3 months ago

      Too much money for a one season exhibition. Leicester are Leicester. I couldn't bring myself to spend 10m on a Leicester player off the bat.

      Saying that I think vardy will bang 16+ goals regardless but 10m is too much for 16+ goals.

  22. Piggs Boson
    • 13 Years
    8 years, 3 months ago

    Anyone have any insight on Viktor Fischer (£5.5 - MID)?

    Whoscored says he plays FWR FW FWL and he's classified as a midfielder in FPL. Middlesborough have decent fixtures.

    1. goriuanx
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 3 months ago

      Great goal return last time round. 0.6 per 90 iirc.

      1. Frank Black
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 3 months ago

        I was looking at the document you linked me earlier and i noticed Deulofeu has a 0.52 average for assists. That's 0.3 less than Silva last season.

    2. AK ⭐
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 3 months ago

      From what I know (FM mostly), he can play as an inside forward.

      Could be a steal if that's true for Boro as well.

    3. Tommytour
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 3 months ago

      Got Matty Phillips myself

      1. goriuanx
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 3 months ago

        Hehe

        1. Tommytour
          • 13 Years
          8 years, 3 months ago

          Got him too? 😉

    4. Bøwstring The Carp
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 3 months ago

      I would assume he's like the Anthony Martial of Middlesbrough (position-wise anyway)

      He was a beast on Football Manager a year or two back fwiw 🙂

    5. MikeyBoro
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 3 months ago

      He will play either in the hole or on the left (most likely). Not sure how much he will play, we have Downing competing with him. He should do well for us as I think his play style will fit our system.

      1. Piggs Boson
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 3 months ago

        Thanks everyone 🙂

  23. MikeyBoro
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 3 months ago

    Anyone with any questions on Boro feel free to ask 🙂

    1. Piggs Boson
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 3 months ago

      Timing. See above 🙂

    2. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 3 months ago

      What position do you think they will finish in?

      1. MikeyBoro
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 3 months ago

        I'm saying 16 or 17th

    3. Wild Card this!
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 3 months ago

      Best scoring def/mid/forw?

  24. Son of the wolf
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 3 months ago

    Foster/Jakupovic

    Baines/Shaw/Terry/Friend/Souare

    Hazard/Siggy/Tadic/Barkley/Coutinho

    Aguero/Gray/Abel Hernandez/

    Barkley and Coutinho as a differentials, as i think that they could mark this season.

    Opinions?

    thanks in advance.

    1. zotter
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 3 months ago

      Coutinho I like. But like Firmino better if you can get him !!

  25. JAC THE CAT
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 3 months ago

    Is Mane worth the extra 0.5 over Firmino?

    1. mad_beer ✅
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 3 months ago

      No.

    2. Frank Black
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 3 months ago

      Definitely not.

    3. goriuanx
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 3 months ago

      I'd say Firmino is worth 2m over Mane but maybe that's me.

    4. Tommytour
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 3 months ago

      No

    5. zotter
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 3 months ago

      Firmino worth more imo.

  26. Feanor
    • 15 Years
    8 years, 3 months ago

    Anyone else getting "Insecure Connection" warnings for the FPL site?

    Happens on Firefox and Chrome.

  27. mad_beer ✅
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 3 months ago

    First draft:

    de Gea
    Alderweireld, Koscielny, Mee
    Hazard, Payet, Eriksen, Davis
    Austin, Kun, Wilson

    Mannone, Watson, Cathcart, Francis

    9.4/10?

    1. Blue&White85
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 3 months ago

      Too expensive defensively. If you want defensive coverage of Man Utd, Spurs and Arsensl consider Cech, Shaw and Vertonghen instead, saves you 1.5. Not 100% sure on Vertonghen's fitness but Koscielny likely to miss first game after Euros.

      Personally, I'd rotate two 4.5 goalies. Midfield looks good but bench weak so the money saved from the suggestions above could bolster that.

  28. JS27
    • 14 Years
    8 years, 3 months ago

    Anyone else question when Rob Green joined Burnley?

  29. The value of Zlatan
    Bøwstring The Carp
    • 13 Years
    8 years, 3 months ago

    Zlatan

    Just going from Ruth_NZ article from a while back on player value. He used the example of Eden Hazard at 11.5m and looked at whether he was worth it, and what he needed to score to justify his higher price over let's say 9.0m players.

    http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/2015/08/04/player-value-revisited/

    Long story short, let's assume Zlatan plays every minute of every PL game. That's 76 points from appearances (which we can assume other striker will also have a chance of getting). Let's compare him to Lukaku at 9.0m. So that's a 2.5m price difference. They will both (presumably) get 76 appearance points, so we must look at their earned points.

    As Ruth calculates, Zlatan would be 2.5m more than Lukaku. Since we deal with everything in terms of 0.5m of our 100m budget this would be.

    5 x 0.43 = 2.15 (the amount of points per gameweek Zlatan must score on average more than Lukaku over the course of a season)

    This works out as about 82 points. Now considering Lukaku has averaged 162 points per season an average over his last 4 seasons, this would mean Zlatan would need to score roughly 244 points this year.

    To put it in perspective, Aguero has not come even close to this number over the last 5 seasons. In his two best seasons he got 211 points (23 goals, 9 assists) and 216 points (26 goals, 10 assists).

    Now obviously there is a factor of captaincy which we must consider. But I see a lot of people trying to fit in both Aguero and Ibra and leaving the rest of their team in bits.

    Lesson of the story; go with one of Aguero/ Zlatan.

    1. oghash
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 3 months ago

      Excellent post. My first draft has kun, ibra and kaku, whoops.

    2. Konig Luther
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 3 months ago

      arghh.... people putting things in a good perspective... i hate this 😉

    3. JAC THE CAT
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 3 months ago

      Good read that.

      Would that also be the same in going for Aguero and Kane?

      1. Bøwstring The Carp
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 3 months ago

        Any premium player with a high price, the calculation can be done for. All depends on who you compare them with. Kane v Zlatan (0.5m price difference) would have huge differences to let's say Kane v Lukaku (2.0m difference)

        1. Bøwstring The Carp
          • 13 Years
          8 years, 3 months ago

          Actually scrap premium players/ high prices. The theory is applicable to any player from 4.5 - 13.0m. It's more of a comparison to work out what Player A (e.g. Coutinho 8.0m) will have to score over the season to be better value than (e.g. Hazard 10m). And also where that 2.0m difference can be spent to make up points elsewhere.

          I.e. 2m into defence can be a huuuuuuge difference

          1. Ziegler1988
            • 10 Years
            8 years, 3 months ago

            Taking 2m out of your defence if you need to upgrade to say Sanchez is a lot tougher than downgrading Zlatan/Kane to Lukaku or someone else that fires early

            1. Bøwstring The Carp
              • 13 Years
              8 years, 3 months ago

              Yes but the question also remains:

              What would score more over a given period:

              A) Bellerin + 9.0m MID

              B) 4.0m + Sanchez

              I see your point, and obviously you would have to be (c) Sanchez and make sure he scores more than the sum of A) and your original captain

    4. Däzzy
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 3 months ago

      Lol.
      The most proven calculator is that a player should score the same amount points over two weeks as their pricetag
      1.25 a week difference times 38 = 47.5 points difference

      1. Bøwstring The Carp
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 3 months ago

        This isn't a tool just to see what players should be scoring each week in terms of themselves

        It is to compare to another player in order to look at value and where that reinvested money can account for any deficit lost on the original player

        1. Däzzy
          • 8 Years
          8 years, 3 months ago

          Ya but surely your results can't be accurate tweet si different to such a proven method

          1. Bøwstring The Carp
            • 13 Years
            8 years, 3 months ago

            VORP is proven tbf

            The difficulty in it is simply that we don't know what amount of points players are going to score next season

    5. Ziegler1988
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 3 months ago

      Aguero's PPG would be more relevant, no? We don't own him nor have to own Zlatan if they're injured

      1. Bøwstring The Carp
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 3 months ago

        Aguero is a tricky one

        Same price as last year but only scored 184 points last year

        For his minutes played that is phenomenal PPG though as you said

        Yeah this is assuming you ditch him when injured

    6. FPL_ScousersScorgasms (Ryan…
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 3 months ago

      what's that 0.43 thing ? where did you get that ? please explain .

      1. Bøwstring The Carp
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 3 months ago

        Basically Ruth does a calculation in the main article to work out what score we need to be getting for every 0.5m of our budget per GW for a top 1000 finish. (by looking at the previous few top 1000 cut off points and getting an average weekly score for the season)

        Note that this value would have change after last season's high points tally but maths isn't my strong point so I will save myself the embarrassment 😆

        1. Piggs Boson
          • 13 Years
          8 years, 3 months ago

          I think Ruth assumes we need to spread the value needed evenly amongst players. I prefer to gain large value gains in defence and some midfielders, to enable the poor-value but high-scoring players. The value balances out.

          1. Irish Madridista ⭐
            • 14 Years
            8 years, 3 months ago

            This.

            Just because Lukaku offers better value than Ibra doesn't mean you should automatically pick Lukaku over Ibra.

            1. George Sillett
              • 9 Years
              8 years, 3 months ago

              Owning Lukaku always ends in misery in my experience.

        2. Greasy
          • 11 Years
          8 years, 3 months ago

          I don't understand this, there are 200 £0.5s in £100 and 38 weeks in a season. Does that mean to get top 1000 on average you need 200x0.43x38 points? That's 3268 points? That would win the competition by miles most years. Before people start going mad at me I do know I'm wrong, I just want to know the correct way to use this magic 0.43 number

    7. tm245
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 3 months ago

      Interesting post, though I would add that using VORP over a full season works most effectively for a Dead Team challenge. In a weekly game where we can make transfers, using the entire course of a season might not be as relevant.

    8. Long Juan Silva
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 3 months ago

      Sorry but these sort of comparisons are pointless. They work on the premise of the player being in your team the whole season, which they highly likely won't be. Total points for the season mean nothing. It's the points they score while in your team that count. Such is the point of FPL - getting players when they do well, or you expect them to do so and getting rid when they don't.

    9. SBronz
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 3 months ago

      Fantastic post! Top work.

  30. oghash
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 3 months ago

    HI all, trying the code on the members page for the ffs members league and it says invalid, anyone else having the same problem?

    1. goriuanx
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 3 months ago

      Might not be renewed yet.

    2. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 3 months ago

      Hasn't been updated.

    3. mad_beer ✅
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 3 months ago

      If you were in it last year you should already be in it this year.

      1. oghash
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 3 months ago

        Thanks all