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The Technical Area – Firmino’s Opening Gameweeks

Heading into the 2017/18 season, the Fantasy Premier League reclassification of Roberto Firmino from midfielder to forward was a source of much chatter.

Three Gameweeks in and Firmino has made fools of those of us who shied away.

The Brazilian sits joint-top in the overall standings on 26 points, having notched two goals, a pair assists, and twice taken home a maximum bonus points haul. Indeed, only Manchester United’s Henrikh Mkhitaryan (106) leads Firmino (101) in the Bonus Points System (BPS) to date.

Over this international break, interest in the Liverpool man has been understandably high. He has experienced one price hike already (from 8.5 to 8.6), and could possibly rise again between now and the Gameweek 4 deadline.

With Liverpool in rampant form – as evidenced by last week’s 4-0 demolition of Arsenal – Firmino offers managers an opportunity to save valuable funds by downgrading a premium forward option to a lower-priced alternative who has hitherto managed to outperform his more expensive rivals.

Here in the Technical Area, we thought that this week represented a good opportunity to dig into Firmino’s game in greater depth.

Specifically, we will be exploring how his profile compares to that of other FPL forwards and whether that early-season form can continue as the campaign unfolds.

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  1. Scotty B
    • 12 Years
    7 years, 2 months ago

    Best defender pick at 4.6 or below besides Naughton?

    1. THE SHEEP HUNTERS
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      Hegazi. Proven fact.

      1. Harry Ball Bag™⚽⚽…
        • 14 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        He 4.8

        1. THE SHEEP HUNTERS
          • 7 Years
          7 years, 2 months ago

          Sorry he was 4.6 when I bought him.

          1. Sánchez
            • 12 Years
            7 years, 2 months ago

            Ha. Good brag

    2. Harry Ball Bag™⚽⚽…
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      Mee

    3. Mark
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      • 17 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      I'd say Mee or Dunk.

      1. Podge
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        One or other gonna get a goal soon

      2. Scotty B
        • 12 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        Which one would you go.woth Mark? Mee the best Burnley defender pick would you say? Great fixs?

      3. Scotty B
        • 12 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        How's your team looking Mark? Any Arsenal players

        1. Mark
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          • 17 Years
          7 years, 2 months ago

          Much as I'd love to say yes...I'm afraid I just can't go there.

          1. Scotty B
            • 12 Years
            7 years, 2 months ago

            I know it's a shame I want one too

    4. THE SHEEP HUNTERS
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      Ward (Burn)

    5. It’s a Knockaert
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      Schindler

      1. Mark
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        • 17 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        Agreed. Also a very good option.

    6. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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      • 14 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      Gomez.

      1. Mark
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        • 17 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        Do you think he'll hold off TAA?

        1. Scotty B
          • 12 Years
          7 years, 2 months ago

          Seems to be for the PL games.
          What's your team at the moment mate?

  2. Rainer
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 2 months ago

    BAPs magnet :teeth:

    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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      • 14 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      : - D

  3. HurriKane
    • 12 Years
    7 years, 2 months ago

    Soton faces these sides in 7 of their next 8 matches (apart from Man united at home)

    WAT cry stk NEW WBA bha BUR

    Surely a double up on their defence will be good investment right ?

    1. Rainer
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      It's been going well since GW1, don't plan to change soon.

    2. Mark
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      • 17 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      Where do you go for security, though? You'd have to go either Cedric/Bertrand at 10.5 or go with a 5.0 keeper.

      1. Sánchez
        • 12 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        Cedric Bertrand sounds fine to me

      2. HurriKane
        • 12 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        Berty and Cedric looks like a good combo to own.

        I was initially looking at Bavies over Berty but as Rose returns his place might come under threat

    3. It’s a Knockaert
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      Maybe but Cedric and Maguire would be better than Cedric and yoshida/Bertrand/stephens in my opinion

      1. HurriKane
        • 12 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        yh Coud go with either Maguire or an Everton defender to spread the risk when their fixtures eases

        1. It’s a Knockaert
          • 7 Years
          7 years, 2 months ago

          Maguire has great attacking potential but will i will put him in after Liverpool as he won't get clean sheets against Chelsea and Liverpool

      2. J T
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        Yoshi & Stephens have done me well so far but I'm worried about the latters minutes with the other available options opened up

        1. HurriKane
          • 12 Years
          7 years, 2 months ago

          Expect stevens and yoshida to continue starting. they have form a strong partnership

          only way vvd or hoedt will get a chance is when one of the current cbs gets injured..

  4. Mark
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    • 17 Years
    7 years, 2 months ago

    Update Five coming tomorrow all being well. FPL prices, some new stats and fixes.

    1. It’s a Knockaert
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      Do you think Kane will drop?

      1. Mark
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        • 17 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        Yes. Just the once. The decline continues, that will be magnified when users return on Thursday/Friday.

        1. Yozzer
          • 7 Years
          7 years, 2 months ago

          What if he bags a couple tonight though?

      2. MTPockets
          7 years, 2 months ago

          Selling seems to have accelerated this afternoon (but he's playing later).

      3. THE SHEEP HUNTERS
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        Where's Disable and the Sky articles Mark?

        1. Mark
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          • 17 Years
          7 years, 2 months ago

          They start tomorrow I believe.

        2. d1sable
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          7 years, 2 months ago

          yep should be one out tomoz if i finish it in time

          cheers

      4. TorresMagic™
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        • 15 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        Good stuff.

      5. bojack
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        FPL prices will be a really handy option like.

      6. Pariße
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        Hi Mark, we discussed in-site notifications 2 days ago and 2 people agreed! 🙂
        I think it'd be a great addition to the site as you wouldn't have to check your mail if there are any replies on your comments. Seems pretty practical to me as you'd only have to have 1 tab open instead of 2. Also the notifications should be there by defualt, not vice versa (so check the box out, if you don't want a reply), because most of us are here for FPL related discussions rather than 1 liners, I imagine. 🙂

    2. It’s a Knockaert
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      A: Alonso, silva, mane, firmino, [quaner]
      B: Maguire, [lee Chung yong], mane, morata, firmino
      C: Maguire, [lee Chung yong], salah, kane, Chicharito

      1. HurriKane
        • 12 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        B

      2. Podge
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        B for sure

    3. Pinky Blinders
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      So Cout's "back injury" seems to be better, is he straight back in the side on Saturday?

      1. Mark
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        • 17 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        I very much doubt it.

      2. Rainer
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        Bench I reckon.

      3. It’s a Knockaert
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        No

      4. fedolefan
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        He could get subbed in depending on the situation.

        1. zotter
          • 15 Years
          7 years, 2 months ago

          Pool could finally have an immense bench with Trent. Robertson. Coutinho. Ox. Solanke. Sturridge

      5. zotter
        • 15 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        Bench. Same team as arsenal game except full backs might switch

      6. el polako
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        No, the poor lamb feels sad 🙁

      7. Hotdogs for Tea
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        Re-shuffle possible - scenes when Salah is benched - Wild Cards ripped up in -8 rage hits

    4. ☻ Jon Snow ☻
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      Stats from Eriksens two international matches (friday and today) :

      2 goals
      4 assists

      He has now provided 6 goals in the last 8 matches.

      1. fishnil
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        Alli essential. Erik's used up him quota for goals this season.

        1. fishnil
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 2 months ago

          His*

        2. HurriKane
          • 12 Years
          7 years, 2 months ago

          Alli being suspended for next 3 UCL matches makes him a safer bet than Eriksen as Poch could rest or take him early before cl games

          Alli should play all 90 mins giving him an extra 20 mins in 2-3 matches over Eriksen. (could be signifcant as spurs doesnt stop attacking until 90mins even if their leading by 2-3 goals)

      2. Sánchez
        • 12 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        Oddly, I've never considered him as an option. I always go to Alli as spurs midfielder of choice

      3. Harry Ball Bag™⚽⚽…
        • 14 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        Looking like a better fpl option than Kane based on price

    5. fishnil
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      Lost in the last post. Need some help here guys. Have 2ft and 1itb. What to do?

      A.
      Danilo -> Naughton/ someone else.
      Defense is: Danilo, Alonso, yoshida, suttner,. Hunmei.

      B.
      Kun -> Kane/firmino
      Lukaku, Kun, Mounie

      Thanks in advance

      1. zotter
        • 15 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        Danilo to naughton.

        1. fishnil
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 2 months ago

          Thanks. You reckon I keep Kun for this week? Liverpool is tough, though he's scored against them in the past. Greatest worry is "tinker-man". Will Kun start and play at least 80mins?

      2. Podge
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        Both ?

      3. Hotdogs for Tea
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        Both

    6. Jay Jay Okocha
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      Managed to avoid a rage WC for the past week, but I still have KDB to deal with. Best replacement?

      A) Mane
      B) Eriksen
      C) Salah
      D) Alli

      1. the snazzy viking
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        A imo

      2. fishnil
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        A or B

      3. Harry Ball Bag™⚽⚽…
        • 14 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        B

      4. HurriKane
        • 12 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        D. he has on rotation risk unlike other 3

        1. the snazzy viking
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 2 months ago

          Couldn't see Eriksen and Mane not playing in the PL; injury-prone maybe but they will start every prem game they can imo

      5. Jay Jay Okocha
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        I should add that I have no Liverpool and Kane...

      6. Hotdogs for Tea
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        Any

    7. bojack
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      This article heavily backs up the notion that Firmino should've been classified as a midfielder, probably at 9.0.

      1. Harry Ball Bag™⚽⚽…
        • 14 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        Bargain at 8.6 as a striker

        1. bojack
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 2 months ago

          I got him at 8.5 so I think I'll probably keep.

      2. Dr Dream
        • 12 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        Or maybe Alli should have been a striker.

    8. Goonermeister
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      Is lacazette a worthy candidate for a second striker spot?

      1. HurriKane
        • 12 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        will he even start?

      2. el polako
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        For me there is two many questions marks around Arsenal and their set up at the moment.
        Where will Sanchez play ?
        Is Welbeck ahed of Lacazette in Wengers plans ?
        I would stay clear for few game weeks and re asses.

        1. el polako
          • 7 Years
          7 years, 2 months ago

          Too *

      3. justmatt
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        Not for me. Doesn't seem 100% nailed just yet.

      4. AllanM
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        I think he is. If things going well I wouldn't bring in till there's more certainty but if you need a differential I think he's a great option.

        Kane's stats the only reason I've refrained from downgrading for this week.

      5. Hotdogs for Tea
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        Rotation risk - why risk it ?

    9. Gudjohnsen
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      I'm wildcarding and gonna keep Kane but at the risk of him dropping in price shouldn't I sell him now and get him back on saturday morning?

      1. TorresMagic™
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        • 15 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        Of course.

      2. Harry Ball Bag™⚽⚽…
        • 14 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        Yes

      3. Podge
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        Sell him before you WC then it will count

      4. Hotdogs for Tea
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        Isn't going to drop

    10. Oven Glover
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      Firmino looks fatter than Bony in that picture!

    11. the snazzy viking
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      KDB + Willian to Mane and Pogba for a hit?

      1. Oven Glover
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        Snazzy! Go for it imo.

        1. the snazzy viking
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 2 months ago

          Rightio, cheers!

      2. DantheManinaPan
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        Yeah

      3. Hotdogs for Tea
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        Yes

      4. the snazzy viking
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        Thanks all !

    12. Dr. Ante Pavlovic
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      Can you RMT for GW4?

      Foster

      Jones, Cedric, Naughton

      Hazard(c), Pogba, Eriksen, Salah

      Lukaku, Firmino, Chicha

      Bench: Elliot, Rlc, Mbemba, Wimmer/Francis

      What do you think?? Thanks

      1. AllanM
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        Not a fan of chica but the rest looks good.

      2. Hotdogs for Tea
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        Great team

    13. Legohair
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      Play
      A. Jones(sto)
      B. Carrol(NEW)

      1. The Wanton Trader
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        A

    14. thepeen555
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      If Kane scores tonight at Wembley we all know there will be a massive thing on it

      1. bojack
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        Like a deflection?

      2. Costaplenty
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        Harry Kane has a monster record and is a goalscoring machine.

        Season keeper.

        1. Podge
          • 13 Years
          7 years, 2 months ago

          Not so good at Wembley though

        2. bojack
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 2 months ago

          Repetitive mode engaged.

    15. jimmy.floyd
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      Play one
      A Forster
      B Elliot

      1 Cedric
      2 Duffy
      3 Mbemba

      Have Richarlison

      1. Rainer
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        A1.

        1. DantheManinaPan
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 2 months ago

          No question

    16. Sánchez
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      Very torn between these 2 options.
      Any thoughts?

      1) cheer on Slovakia at Scotland's expense because they play England

      2) cheer on England because it helps Scotland then take a shower in disgust afterwards

      1. DantheManinaPan
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        Just sit and be miserable

        1. Sánchez
          • 12 Years
          7 years, 2 months ago

          I'm Scottish. I'll do that anyway

      2. Dr Dream
        • 12 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        Well I'd love both of Scotland and England to go through.

        1. Sánchez
          • 12 Years
          7 years, 2 months ago

          I actually do prefer as many home nation sides to qualify as possible too. Makes it better tournament for media hype etc. Not same if its a Euro 2008 type thing

          1. Dr Dream
            • 12 Years
            7 years, 2 months ago

            Scottish fans are something to behold at the WC. Even if Scotland do nothing we can be sure their fans will finish high up on the leader board.

            1. Sánchez
              • 12 Years
              7 years, 2 months ago

              *were.

              Were something to behold.

              Been 19 years now

      3. The Wanton Trader
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        Or you could just watch Traffic Cops..
        You never know but Rooney may make an appearance.. 🙂

        1. Sánchez
          • 12 Years
          7 years, 2 months ago

          That would be an amazing episode.
          Imagine the high pitched Scouse accent as he tries to talk his way out of it
          "Come on lads, I'm in here, she's well up for it. Let me go and I'll get you 2 season tickets to Old Traff ... Goodison Park ... Oh no. This won't work anymore will it?"

          1. The Wanton Trader
            • 7 Years
            7 years, 2 months ago

            Can just see that CCTV shot of him in the cells with his head in his hands contemplating what he's going to say to Colleen when she has to pick him up from the station..

            1. Sánchez
              • 12 Years
              7 years, 2 months ago

              😆

      4. Hotdogs for Tea
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        2

    17. Twelve years a slave
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      So many Fantasy players hauling during international week, all setting themselves up to be Two point Charlies when the real action starts

      1. Sánchez
        • 12 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        So I should get the France flops?

        1. Twelve years a slave
          • 14 Years
          7 years, 2 months ago

          Wouldnt be Surprised to see Giroud or Lacazette on scoresheet, problem is knowing which one

      2. Oven Glover
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        Who do you back to score (heavily) this gw? Your top three scorers, please? Out of curiosity and for fun of course.

        1. Bollard
          • 12 Years
          7 years, 2 months ago

          Kane, Kola, Kun

      3. Hotdogs for Tea
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        Kane on fire

    18. alfast1c
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      Guys help please!
      DeGea+Alonso+Chicarito
      OR
      Foster+Jones+Morata

      Rest of team:
      Eliot
      Bertrand-BDavies-Mbemba-Naughton
      Eriksen-Pogba-Mane-Atsu-Caroll
      Lukaku-Firmino

      Any other changes also ?
      ON WC Currently.

      1. alfast1c
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        or option3:
        Foster+Jones+DSilva+Chicarito

      2. Hotdogs for Tea
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        First choice

    19. Bleach †
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      Any news on Fraser? I'd like to play him vs that vulnerable Arsenal

      1. Rainer
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        Change of system saw him benched vs City. Depends how Howe sets up if he'll play or not.

    20. Bollard
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      Do we think Iwobi will creep back into the Arsenal team with all the shenanigans goin on there?

      1. Rainer
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        Nope.

    21. Fantasy Gold
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      Which option do you think is best for my last 4.5 defender?

      A) Naughton
      B) Mee
      C) Dunk
      D) Lowe

      Thanks

      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        A).

      2. potatoace
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        A

      3. Hotdogs for Tea
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        A
        B

        1. Fantasy Gold
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 2 months ago

          Thank you all! 🙂

    22. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      Firmino is a legend. So glad I changed Jesus to him in the days leading up to GW1

      1. TorresMagic™
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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        • 15 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        Very nice.

      2. Kryten
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        Yeahs a great player to have when your watching the game always involved in the attacks

    23. Dr. Ante Pavlovic
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      Jesus how English people and commentators are conceited. Comparing Slovakia to Malta lol

      Always underestimating other teams and overpraising their ability. Cheers to exeptions.

    24. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 15 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      Surprised Hart is still the England keeper.

      1. thepeen555
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        Me too, talk about long it out

    25. Ode
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      I wonder if anyone here is captaining Alonso for GW4?

      He scored 2 goals, was close to a hattie and kept a clean sheet last time Chelsea played Leicester... I have Kane (C) atm but seriously considering Alonso, especially if Kane doesn't score tonight

      1. saurabh.06
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        Shhh.... Don't let many people know about this Stats....i m capping him this week

    26. thepeen555
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      I wonder if that's harts problem. He goalkeeps with his eyes shut

    27. ryacoo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      Any Swansea fans here that can shed some light on how Renato Sanches could affect Carroll?

      Will TC still be a starter and could it actually benefit him?