Preamble

The Pre-match Preamble – Gameweek 17

This is a time for family and feasting. A time to indulge those you love and the treats and temptations around us. For Fantasy managers, however, Christmas offers us a tortuous programme that clashes with such merriment and has us break etiquette and risk the wrath of loved ones. We embrace the fixture frenzy that Christmas brings – it’s all that family and friends nonsense that gets in the way.

Every year I’m amazed by the numbers. While I’m reliably informed that, by January, the typical Fantasy Football player base has dropped off by 50%, on our pages we see no such trend. The Christmas spell is a boom period.

It leads me to ponder that, if Fantasy Football is a drug for the enthusiastic “hardcore” player, then the Christmas period is a pure and relentless hit that renders us giddy with the possibilities and often exhausts us with its outcomes. This is no time to shelve our lineups and pursue the expected Christmas agenda – our time is dictated by deadlines, kick-off times and the live television schedule. We need our fix and it’s never been so plentiful.

And yet, I know full well I will have to make concessions. I know that, come Boxing Day, my excited expectations for my teams will have to be hushed amongst company, limited to a smuggled mobile phone under the dinner table and improbably frequent toilet breaks that will have loved ones concerned about the condition of my bladder.

It’s a painful experience (not the bladder) to maintain the threads of conversation over dinner when the mind is drifting to the chances of Marko Arnautovic notching for Stoke. It’s unnatural, unnecessary and against all that Christmas stands for. And yet, for myself and doubtless other Fantasy managers, it’s become the norm.

Hands up, then. The normal service will be interrupted. Pulls and responsibilities, the magic of seeing my near two-year-old experience all that Christmas brings will distract me and those who help me to fuel your own obsession at this time. But I’ll sneak and cajole, win brownie points and trade them for time to be amongst you. Enjoy the festivities.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

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  1. Laserface
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    looks like i'm the only one who hasn't captained Suarez

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    1. Namtab Nomolos
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Welbeck ftw!

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    2. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      you and the guy who forgot to change his team

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      1. tw
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        you mean me? 🙁

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        1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          😯 nope. There is more than one person who forgot to change it then 😯

          Look on last page

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    3. Mull
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Hope Springthorpe plays 🙂

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    4. beric
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      good luck

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    5. GTS
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      add my ML Rival as well.
      😎

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    6. Pinatta
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      O/

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    7. jas5sk - Youtube channel
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Negredooooo(c)

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    8. Jax
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      we really don't care that you captained someone who isn't going to play.

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  2. beric
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    any one know when boruc is back?

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    1. Jax
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      no.

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  3. Lawrø
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    How many points did Gareth Bale score last season?

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    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      249

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      1. Thomass
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Seriously?

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        1. The Finnisher
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          No, it's just a hilarious prank.

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        2. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 15 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          🙄

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    2. Thomass
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      249

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      1. The Finnisher
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Seriously?

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      2. The Finnisher
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Why would you post this after you saw TM's reply by the way?

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        1. tw
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          Because it's Thomass..... 😕

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        2. Thomass
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          I double checked

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          1. The Finnisher
            • 13 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            Are you saying Lawro shouldn't trust TM?

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            1. Thomass
              • 12 Years
              10 years, 10 months ago

              No and TW is right, you shouldn't go mad with Thomass

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              1. The Finnisher
                • 13 Years
                10 years, 10 months ago

                Did TW say this to you privately?

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                1. Thomass
                  • 12 Years
                  10 years, 10 months ago

                  TW ignore him

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                  1. The Finnisher
                    • 13 Years
                    10 years, 10 months ago

                    wot

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      3. Lawrø
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Cheers TM and Thomass

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      4. Pinatta
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Are you cereal?

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  4. GunsnRoses
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Suarez will blank or get a solitary assist and Walcott will get double digit points

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    1. The Finnisher
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Why didn't you tell me this before 11:30!?

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      1. GunsnRoses
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        I could not convince myself to give the armband to Walcott

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    2. Fitzy.
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Why did you captain Suarez then?

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      1. GunsnRoses
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Too many people are doing that... Walcott already a differential

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    3. 4-4-who?
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      On what basis do you think this will happen?

      We are blessed to be able to watch Suarez at the height of his power. For me he is on a par with Messi right now.

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      1. GunsnRoses
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Guts. Nothing else

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  5. Siva Mohan
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Good Day Gents!

    Ramsey + Mignolet >> Walcott + Kelvin Davies

    Marshall is my other goalie and will start vs Southampton (H) & Sunderland (H) .. planning to sort out the goalie issue in Jan WC..

    Go for it before Walcott price rise?

    Please suggest..

    Thanks!

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    1. Grumpy Camel
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      No. Ramsey is still underpriced.

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    2. banskt
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      No. Keep Ramsey. Look elsewhere.

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  6. Dr Dream
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Liverpool to top the league in an hour or two..happy days. Top club and top fans...

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    1. Mull
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      We'll find a way to f it up.

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      1. Lawrø
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        ^This

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      2. Dr Dream
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        I hope not...my top three clubs in terms of fans and what it means to the place they live in

        Liverpool
        Newcastle
        Everton

        Great clubs...

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        1. Lawrø
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          What club do you support Wakey?

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          1. Dr Dream
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            Blackburn...been going on since the late sixties but I've been on an awful lot of other grounds over the years..

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            1. Dr Dream
              • 12 Years
              10 years, 10 months ago

              Best day of my football life was on Anfield when we won the title...FANTASTIC DAY.

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              1. Lawrø
                • 12 Years
                10 years, 10 months ago

                I can only imagine 😀

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                1. Dr Dream
                  • 12 Years
                  10 years, 10 months ago

                  Stood right in the middle of the Centenary stand with my 1960's original shirt on and then went out on the lash with the Liverppol supporters after the game...

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                  1. Lawrø
                    • 12 Years
                    10 years, 10 months ago

                    😀

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    2. beric
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      rather pool than united/che/city but i hope arsenal win it

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    3. 4-4-who?
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      It's good to be back, good to be back, come on, come on...

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  7. SpinyNorman [*_*]
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    I miss the Demba Ba at Newcastle days 🙁

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/15536524

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  8. tw
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    oops I didn't hit confirm and accidentally benched suarez and captained burner 🙁

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    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      😕

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    2. Fitzy.
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Rubbish

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  9. Top 1k stats
    Smarty Pants
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    GW 17 Statistics for the top 1000 FPL teams
    Boring week captaincy-wise, but still...

    Full Stats:
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqtVjAktDqTFdHRHNHVBbXpORmpBUjZYZ0J0R0hsNUE&usp=sharing

    HIGHLIGHTS
    GW17 transfers made 1549
    Point hits taken 25.6%
    Average points deducted (incl. no hits) 1.2
    GW17 wildcards played 1.9%
    Average Team Value ₤105.8m
    Average Bank Value ₤1.7m

    TRANSFERS MADE
    1 43.3%
    2 37.5%
    0 10.0%
    3 5.9%
    WC 1.9%
    4 1.0%
    5 0.3%
    7 0.1%

    POINT HITS TAKEN
    0 74.4%
    4 21.4%
    8 3.3%
    12 0.6%
    16 0.2%
    24 0.1%

    Transfers IN
    Total: 121 different players bought
    1 Negredo 33.7%
    2 Rooney 25.9%
    3 Lukaku 9.4%
    4 Silva 6.5%
    5 Henderson(LIV) 4.3%

    Transfers OUT
    Total: 161 different players sold
    1 Agüero 67.4%
    2 Zabaleta 7.8%
    3 Rooney 3.3%
    4 Koscielny 3.1%
    5 Morrison(WHU) 3.0%

    TEAM SELECTION
    FORMATION
    '3-4-3' 76.6%
    '4-3-3' 12.4%
    '3-5-2' 5.3%
    '4-4-2' 5.1%
    '5-3-2' 0.3%
    '5-2-3' 0.1%
    '4-5-1' 0.1%
    '5-4-1' 0.1%

    CAPTAINCY
    Total: 6 captain choices
    1 Suárez 99.0%
    2 Lukaku 0.4%
    3 Agüero 0.2%
    4 Rooney 0.2%
    5 Jagielka 0.1%

    GOALKEEPERS
    Total: 23 different goalkeepers
    1 Mignolet 43.2%
    2 Begovic 7.5%
    3 Howard 7.4%
    4 Jääskeläinen 5.5%
    5 Krul 5.3%

    DEFENDERS
    Total: 83 different defenders
    1 Coleman 77.0%
    2 Mertesacker 35.3%
    3 Jagielka 23.6%
    4 Zabaleta 15.6%
    5 Terry 14.7%

    MIDFIELDERS
    Total: 74 different midfielders
    1 Ramsey 93.2%
    2 Yaya Touré 71.3%
    3 Hazard 51.4%
    4 Özil 50.3%
    5 Barkley 13.5%

    FORWARDS
    Total: 23 different forwards
    1 Suárez 100.0%
    2 Lukaku 63.2%
    3 Rooney 47.3%
    4 Negredo 38.1%
    5 Remy 12.3%

    BENCH
    Total: 274 different players on the bench
    1 Morrison(WHU) 15.3%
    2 Kelvin Davis 14.4%
    3 Turner(CAR) 14.3%
    4 Zabaleta 14.1%
    5 Baker 13.6%

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    1. Christina.
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      The top players don't take hits.

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      1. beric
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        loads o hits this week! i love it

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      2. Gung Ho
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        The top players are there because they have strong squads, and don't tend to need to take hits....

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    2. beric
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      nice one as always!

      100% 😯

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      1. beric
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        ah no, 99%...my bad

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    3. Mull
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      1% of those players have spacehopper sized testicles.

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      1. Gung Ho
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        haha. yes!

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    4. Namtab Nomolos
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Great, so Walcott and Welbeck will get me a big rank rise this week 🙂

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      1. asquishypotato
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Loving my Walcott Differential aswell 🙂

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    5. mookie
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      thanks, great as always

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    6. Konig Luther
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      one guy take a -24hit... WOW

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      1. JT's Dog
          10 years, 10 months ago

          Be honest your first thought was thomass

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          1. beric
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            its top 1k, so no

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            1. JT's Dog
                10 years, 10 months ago

                What none of his teams

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                1. Demel
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 13 Years
                  10 years, 10 months ago

                  🙂

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                2. Konig Luther
                  • 11 Years
                  10 years, 10 months ago

                  🙂

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            1. beric
              • 12 Years
              10 years, 10 months ago

              he took dembele out, then brought him back in?

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              1. beric
                • 12 Years
                10 years, 10 months ago

                no, the other way round

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            2. Gung Ho
              • 12 Years
              10 years, 10 months ago

              ^ what !! he forgot to click on use wildcard ? Why would he do that ? craziness

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        • Baggers
          • 15 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          Brilliant and interesting post cheers

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        • Heydudes13
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          One of them has Jagielka captain!

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          1. Mull
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            😯

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        • Mílanista
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          Some gems in there
          Jagielka(c)
          24 point hit
          Rooney transferred in and out

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        • asquishypotato
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          The Jagielka captain! Either this bodes well for a clean sheet, or someone has made a big mistake...

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          1. Smarty Pants
            • 14 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            Here he is, jagielka captain for two weeks in a row:
            http://fantasy.premierleague.com/entry/1385276/event-history/17/

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        • OShaughnessy
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          @SMARTY PANTS

          Sir, wondering if your script can tell us how many players come into / drop out of the Top 1000 each week? Think it'd be cool to see the turn over...

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          1. Smarty Pants
            • 14 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            cheers for the suggestion
            I guess it's relatively easy to implement, so maybe I'll be able to do it next GW already

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            1. OShaughnessy
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 12 Years
              10 years, 10 months ago

              Mate, this should be a feature article each week... Love it.

              You're doing some good work & thank you.

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      2. The Machine
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Yes keeping on selling Rooney

        Great differential for the next two

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      3. Make United Great Again
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        I think battles in ML are the best part of FPL.

        The top 4 in mine is so tight! Rooney Walcott goalkeeper and defence are real differentials.

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        1. Christina.
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          Top 4 in mine all have Suarez(c) & Rooney(v/c)

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          1. Make United Great Again
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            That's annoying. Who'll be making the difference for you then?

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        2. Make United Great Again
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          wbu you lads?

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      4. GTS
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Updated!

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      5. Portsmouth Bubblejet
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Alexander Büttner's agent expects him to sign for an Italian club, possibly Roma or Genoa, "in a matter of days", either on a loan deal or permanently. The left-back plays no part in Moyes' future plans, the Dutch newspaper De Telegraaf claims today.

        http://www.telegraaf.nl/telesport/voetbal/buitenlands/22159395/__Serie_A_lonkt_voor_Buttner__.html

        The same newspaper says that John Heitinga has been told by Roberto Martinez that he can leave Everton in the winter transfer window.

        http://www.telegraaf.nl/telesport/voetbal/buitenlands/22159397/__Heitinga_mag_weg_bij_Everton__.html

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      6. LewanGOALski
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        draft plan for the transfers this GW is:

        Williams + Sessegnon ➡ Burner + Silva/Nasri for a 4-point hit.

        Thoughts ? Good idea ?

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        1. tw
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          looks solid. already have walcott?

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          1. LewanGOALski
            • 13 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            yeap 🙂

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      7. Parm
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Are we supposed to believe a guy on twitter that posts a squad of 17?

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        1. GTS
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          at 7.5 maybe no.

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        2. SW6
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          He'll be in before I WC 😉

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        3. LewanGOALski
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          I think I may get him, could be a massive differential overall and in my cash ML

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      8. Wild Rover
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Only 4% have taken -8 or more. I'm in big trouble 😀

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        1. GTS
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          😀

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        2. Namtab Nomolos
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          If Suarez blanks the cup could lose most of the top 100k before it even starts.

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        3. The Machine
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          Are you referring to SPs post?

          it's about the top 1k, not 500k

          You should be fine

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          1. The Machine
            • 11 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            No offence meant btw

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        4. Hank Scorpio
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          What did you take?

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      9. SW6
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Why are the Scout Picks still going for a 4-3-3?

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        1. Saosin
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          Why not?

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          1. SW6
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            Because 3-4-3 is clearly the optimal formation for FPL

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        2. The Finnisher
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          Same reason they avoided Suarez last week, they aren't very good.

          😉

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        3. Mílanista
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          Don't know, doing it every week is a strange decision.

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      10. Jax
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        wonder who is odds on to score first?

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        1. tw
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          Suarez 😉

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          1. Jax
            • 15 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            shock

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      11. Sun Jihai
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Damn, totally forgot about FPL and now have Hazard (c), Suarez (vc) :/
        Don't know how you all have so much time to think about fantasy football!

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        1. Wild Rover
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          Don't know why you play it...

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        2. jas5sk - Youtube channel
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          Might work out for you, this casual approach

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        3. Laserface
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          feck off

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      12. JT's Dog
          10 years, 10 months ago

          This may be one and only time that Samuel l Jackson has inspired me to take hits

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        • Sheldon420
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          What's the thing with Howard, why are people hoping Springthrope will play?

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          1. Namtab Nomolos
            • 13 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            Because someone hilariously captained him with Suarez as vc

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        • The Machine
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          Anyone seen SuperDunny lately?

          Is he still captaining Coutinho these days?

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        • Heydudes13
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          From the top 1k stats, many more hits taken this week. Good, good. 🙂

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          1. beric
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            yep, great to start the week with a headstart, and 2FT for boxing day 🙂

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        • Thomass
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          Right off to watch the Liverpool and Cardiff game so won't be on.

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          1. The Finnisher
            • 13 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            Keep us updated.

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        • megatronaldinho
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          hey Jas. gave u an answer on previous page. made no sense. ugh. sht worth saying doesn't make sense. but whatever. hollywood's a place. real people live there. i almost wish they didn't. live there. also , scratch the there

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        • isacki: full casual
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          Here's what I'm rolling with then. All change.

          Migs
          Evans Moxey Coleman
          Walcott Hazard Coutinho Ramsey
          Suarez (C) Lukaku Negredo

          Subs: Camp, Ravel Clyne Burner

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          1. Hank Scorpio
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            Should do well.

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            1. isacki: full casual
              • 13 Years
              10 years, 10 months ago

              Cheers, cashed in on my 2FT this week doing Rooney, Aguero, Amalfitano > Lukaku, Negredo, Walcott

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        • Punty
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          On norwegian TV2 the reporter is standing in the middle of anfield and saying that it is probably not any fantasy premier league managers that haven't captained suarez today, is he correct? 🙂

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          1. d1sable
            • Has Moderation Rights
            10 years, 10 months ago

            Well i was going Rooney but the injury swayed me.

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          2. Namtab Nomolos
            • 13 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            No way

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            1. Namtab Nomolos
              • 13 Years
              10 years, 10 months ago

              +r

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        • Jack Frost
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          SNL saturday nite live or my new front three

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        • ktk_interista
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          84% votes go to suarez (c). Can't remember a similar figure ever. I've got a bad feeling about this.

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          1. Mull
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            No need to worry. If he does bad almost everyone has got him captain so it won't hurt your rank at all.

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